Hour 3 - You Can Change the World

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 3 - “You Can Change the World”
Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Clay Travis (Buck Sexton out this week, reporting from Taiwan)
Podcast Publisher: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis tackles the big issues dominating American politics and culture, connecting current events with the broader themes of persuasion, coalition-building, and bridging political divides. Key stories include breaking news of a potential Middle East peace deal involving President Trump and Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, lively listener feedback on political polarization, the importance of engaging across the aisle, and the link between sports, culture, and American politics. Clay frequently connects political strategy to broader life lessons, emphasizing the need to reach out, persuade, and avoid ideological purity that leads to isolation.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Major News Stories of the Day (03:35–13:50)

• Middle East Peace Agreement Awaited:
  • Clay anticipates a joint press conference from President Trump and Netanyahu regarding a possible peace agreement in the Middle East, emphasizing its historic significance.
  • “We are awaiting the press conference which we will go to live…between Netanyahu and Trump relating to potential Middle East peace agreement.” (03:35)
• Domestic Headlines:
  • Ongoing investigation into the attack on a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints facility in Michigan, treated as a terror incident.
  • New York City Mayor’s race drama, with Eric Adams dropping out.
  • Political fallout from the Comey charges.
  • Rumors of Paul Finebaum (ESPN/SEC) considering a Senate run in Alabama.

2. Listener Engagement and Polarization in Politics (08:35–13:54, 20:58–26:40)

• Emails and Calls: Reflections on Identity, Politics, and Friendship:
  • Clay reads messages from listeners with opposing views. One, “Dean from South Florida,” says he can't be friends with anyone who votes Democrat, calling them “scumbags.” Clay pushes back, advocating for engagement across ideological difference.
    • “I just, I don't believe in the idea of cutting people out of your life who have different political opinions than you.” (08:59)
  • Clay argues that knowing people on the other side is essential to persuasion and breaking stereotypes.
• Historical and Cultural Context:
  • Clay analogizes today’s Democrats to the Republicans of the 1990s, claiming the party has moved so far left that “Bill Clinton, 1992 would be a Republican right now.” (10:17)
• Path to Political Victory:
  • Repeatedly highlights that winning elections requires coalition-building and persuasion—not just ideological purity.
    • “Politics is the art of persuasion. It's about communication and making the right decisions.” (12:26)
• On Not Abandoning the “Battlefield”:
  • Responding to a caller’s decision to stop watching football due to politics in sports, Clay argues for staying engaged rather than ceding cultural territory.
    • “You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well, they're meant to. I don't agree with some of this stuff. I'm out. Lace them up. Put in your mouth guard and start throwing haymakers.” (14:23)
  • Advocates for “throwing punches” in the cultural arena, especially sports, to win over mainstream audiences.

3. The Philosophy of Engagement—Politics and Religion (21:19–26:40)

• Comparing Politics and Evangelism:
  • Clay draws a parallel between religious evangelism and political persuasion—real change comes from reaching out to those who aren’t already converted.
    • “If you are religious, would you ever say, I only want to interact with Christians?...It might make you feel better to never be challenged. But real calling is convincing people of something they have not yet realized.” (25:07)
  • Personal anecdote: His grandparents, after retiring, devoted themselves to ministering to prisoners, highlighting the value of outreach to the unconverted.
  • Concludes: If you only talk to those who agree with you, “how can you change the world?” (26:30)

4. Breaking: Trump-Netanyahu Live Press Conference on Middle East Peace (26:43–33:59)

• Trump’s 20-Point Peace Plan:

  • Trump outlines the creation of an international board, with leaders from other countries (including Tony Blair), working with the World Bank, to assemble a new Palestinian government without Hamas.
  • “Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board, but they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all, directly or indirectly.” — Donald Trump (27:25)
  • Emphasizes both Israeli security and “Palestinian success,” with the onus on Palestinians to “take responsibility for their destiny.”
  • “If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out … they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world.” — Donald Trump (30:50)
  • Trump stresses immediate release of all hostages and puts pressure on Hamas to accept the deal within 72 hours.
  • Reaffirms strong American and personal support for Israel, referencing the historic nature of the deal and the challenges of past attempts.

• Clay’s Immediate Reaction:

  • “That is vintage Trump…Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said, quote, if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release of all remaining hostages immediately.” (33:59)
  • Notes that refusal from Hamas will mean full support for Israeli military action.

5. Summing Up the Stakes: Moral Clarity and Real-World Complexity (38:50–43:57)

• Moral Framing:
  • Clay summarizes the crux: If Israel put down its weapons, it wouldn’t exist; if Israel’s adversaries put down arms, there’d be peace. He urges clarity in identifying Hamas as the aggressor, but sympathy for innocent Palestinians suffering under its rule.
  • “If Israel put down its weapons, Israel would not exist within a week. If all of Israel's adversaries put down their weapons, there would be peace in the Middle East. Very simple. If you're wondering who is the aggressor here, who is the bad guy? Hamas is the bad guy.” (39:12)
• Reflection on Listener Experiences:
  • Shares a poignant email from Horace, a black, Catholic, conservative, Republican whose liberal friends and family shunned him for his beliefs—a real-world example of the costs of polarization, but also of resilience and keeping dialogue open.
    • “I've been shunned by other black people who stopped associating with me and inviting me to get togethers. … I haven't cut off my liberal friends. They've distanced themselves from me.” — Horace (42:00 approx.)
• Closing Thought:
  • Clay reiterates the need for open channels, quoting from another listener: “Let's keep the windows, doors of communication open. Let's be the new Founding Fathers.” (41:00 approx.)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Friendship:
  • “I don't believe in the idea of cutting people out of your life who have different political opinions than you.” — Clay Travis (08:59)
• On Engaging Rather Than Retreating:
  • “You don’t win by abandoning the battlefield… Lace them up. Put in your mouth guard and start throwing haymakers.” — Clay Travis (14:23)
• Religion as Metaphor for Politics:
  • “If you are religious, would you ever say, I only want to interact with Christians? … Real calling is convincing people of something they have not yet realized.” — Clay Travis (25:07)
• Trump on the Peace Plan:
  • “We're giving them responsibility for their destiny. Fully condemn and prohibit terrorism and earn their way to a brighter future.” — Donald Trump (29:55)
  • “If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out…they’ll have only themselves to blame.” — Donald Trump (30:50)
• Summary of the Stakes in Israel-Gaza Conflict:
  • “If Israel put down its weapons, Israel would not exist within a week. If all of Israel's adversaries put down their weapons, there would be peace in the Middle East.” — Clay Travis (39:12)
• Listener Email on the Cost of Polarization:
  • “I'm a black, Catholic, conservative, Republican. … I've been shunned by other black people who stopped associating with me … I haven't cut off my liberal friends. They've distanced themselves from me.” — Horace (approx. 42:00)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Opening/Overview & Major Stories: 03:35–13:50
• Listener Mail & Political Friendship: 08:35–13:54
• Sports, Culture, and Political Engagement: 13:54–19:12
• Philosophy of Persuasion (Religion & Politics): 21:19–26:40
• Trump-Netanyahu Live Press Conference - Middle East Peace Proposal: 26:43–33:59
• Clay’s Reaction & Political/Moral Analysis: 33:59–38:50
• Listener Email on Cancel Culture: 41:00–43:20
• Closing Thoughts: 43:50

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Tone and Style

The episode blends Clay’s trademark humor and directness with earnest argumentation. There’s a constant thread of optimism about persuasion, a focus on practical engagement, and personal anecdotes that bring abstract political debates to life.

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Summary for New Listeners

Hour 3 of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" dives deep into the current crossroads of politics and culture—from the breaking news of a possible historic Middle East peace deal to the everyday question of how Americans can bridge divides at home. Clay Travis passionately makes the case for persisting in dialogue, fighting cultural battles rather than walking away, and never shunning those with whom you disagree. Listener correspondence and Trump’s own words during the press conference provide both controversy and insight. The show’s main takeaway: real change—political or otherwise—demands open minds, persuasion, and coalition-building, not ideological isolation. And as always, the door is open for the conversation to continue.

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Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck is in Taiwan and he is he'll be back next week but he is as far away almost as either of us have been. I think I went to Australia. But so many different moving stories out there. Buck will be back next week. We are awaiting the press conference which we will go to live in the event that it happens before the show is ends today. That press conference scheduled to start any moment with Benjamin Netanyahu and President Trump relating to potential Middle east peace agreement. Obviously very big deal. If you are just now joining us, we've been following a lot of different stories. The church attack on the Christian Latter Day Saints facility in Michigan continues to be followed, is being looked at as a terror attack. Uh, Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York City mayor's race. Continued fallout from the Comey charges over the course of the weekend. And our friend J.K. rowling weighed in and I'm gonna read some more of what she had to say about the situation surrounding trans debate. Do men who identify as women become women again? We are waiting in real time spinning plates here a little bit to see when or if that White House press availability between Netanyahu and Trump is going to begin. The Fine bomb Paul Feinbaum news that I have shared with you guys. I'll be on Will Kane show talking about this on Fox News in a little bit as there is, I think, a very real chance that Paul Finebaum of ESPN and the SEC network is going to soon announce that he is running for Senate in the state of Alabama. We played some cuts for you of that and many of you are continuing to react. Let me hit a couple of your emails. They came in directly to me. We had one of our callers down there saying that he was, that he was interested in the fine bomb situation and it was of the Allison family. And this is a note from, from one of our listeners. That was awesome. You may not realize the older gentleman, 89 years old, listens to the show every single day that called from Alabama. He's a part of the Allison family, the first family of NASCAR in Alabama. That gentleman was literally part of the living legends of that are part of the Allison family and the Hueytown gang. He was the racer that got into a fight at the conclusion of the first Daytona 500 that was ever televised from start to finish. Nice little treat to my day. Thank you guys. Keep up the great work. That was positive. Email. Gary is upset. Did you know who you were talking to? Eddie Allison, the older brother of the famous Allison brothers of nascar. You didn't give him much time. Look, I didn't know. All I get is a first name and a state. Um, and so I appreciate him calling. He's welcome to Call Back anytime. I loved the call. 89 years old, said he listens to the show while he's out in his backyard on his swing. That sounds amazing to me. And we appreciate him calling. We appreciate all of you who are listening all over the place. Dean is upset with me because I said that, that I've got friends, and I don't talk about politics with Dean from South Florida says he can't be friends with anybody, whoever voted for a Democrat. Ff I don't have any liberal friends. They're just not ethical, they're not moral. I would never be friends with anybody that voted for Harris or Biden. These guys are lowlife scumbags. And if you vote for Trump, I can be friends with you. I can never be friends with anybody that votes for a Democrat. They're just scumbags. I disagree. I dis. I understand. Some people are like that. First of all, that's what a lot of left wingers do. They're the ones that are more likely, I think, to just cut off relations. Oh, you voted for Trump. You can't come to Thanksgiving anymore. Oh, you won't wear a mask everywhere you go. Good luck coming over for Christmas. I don't think that's healthy. I really don't. I've got a ton of friends that frankly, disagree with me on everything politically. And I know those people long before Trump, and I'm going to know them long after Trump. So I just, I don't believe in the idea of cutting people out of your life who have different political opinions than you. I actually think we need more people who are willing to be friends with people across the aisle. And just think about this. I think it's hard to demonize Trump supporters. If you, like me, are an admitted Trump supporter and people in your life who may vote on the left are have to think about you as that Trump supporter, as opposed to just this amorphous idea they've created of, oh, the Trump supporters are all dumb, ignorant, stupid, redneck, racist, transphobic, whatever the homophobic, whatever slurs you want. Hitler, Hitler, Nazi, bootstrapping, awful human beings. I think that you can only believe that if you don't actually know Trump supporters in your life. And I gotta tell you, there's lots of people who vote Democrat. Almost every single day I hear from somebody who says, you know what, Clay? I'm a little bit like you. Go back and listen to what Bill Clinton said in 1992. It is nothing like what the modern Democrat Party believes. Bill Clinton, 1992 would be a Republican right now. Bill Clinton, 1996 Republican. I'm not saying he's right on every issue, but Donald Trump used to be a Democrat and then he saw the light and started to recognize how crazy everything was going. Donald Trump gave money to the Clintons back in the day. Trump is just sane. And there are a lot of us out there that are just sane and we look around and we say there's a crazy party and that's the Democrats and there's a sane party and that's the Republicans. It's my opinion. But I bet a lot of you in your lives, you know people who are voting Democrat just cuz they decided they were on the Democrat team when they were 16 years old and they may be 66 now. And the democrat party of 50 years ago is nothing like the Democrat Party today. And every day a few of them see the light, they get red pilled. And I think one way they do it is, is by interacting with normal, rational, reasonable people who they actually have a moment of thought and think, wait a minute, Clay's not crazy. Why is he a Trump guy? And they start to work through. Not everybody, but there are enough people out there that start to think that through. And that's how Trump won in 2024, that's how he won the popular vote. So I understand the frustration out there of how do they not see everything that I see. This is why I read everything. I am very confident that I could make the arguments they make in the New York Times as good or better than they do, but could too. We are aware of all of their arguments. We're making the ones that we think are better, which is how we ended up a Trump supporter. But I don't think you help your arguments by just running in the corner, covering your ears and being like, I only wanna be surrounded by people that agree with me on everything every minute of every day. To me, that's what Democrats do. That's how their party has become toxic. That's how it's become such a shrinking tent. You have to interact with arguments with which you disagree to understand why you agree with the ones that you do. So look, I love the fact that Dean is a listener, but I don't understand and don't think it's helpful to just say what a leftist would. I'm cutting everybody else off who doesn't agree with me 100% on everything. I don't think that's healthy. I would never cut off friends or family personally because of their politics and I wouldn't want you to either. I don't think that's healthy. Moreover, you can't win doing that. The way you win is by expanding your coalition. There aren't enough die hard right wingers to get anybody elected in any competitive state. You have to appeal to reasonable, rational people out there that might be super busy. They got real things going on in your life. I got three boys. Do you know how much time we spend scheduling getting those boys to all of their events? I got a 9th grade football game to get to. I really believe that my son's games. It's almost like they're pranking us to try to play the games in the most difficult places to get to at the most difficult place at times. 5:30 kickoff, an hour and a half from my house. We live in a major American city. There's nowhere they could have gone close. No, we got to drive all over the place. People are busy. I appreciate y' all who are listening every single day and following and being super attentive with the politics of the moment. You guys are what we should want from an enlightened electorate. But if only people knew what was going on every day in the country voted, there wouldn't be very many voters. Most people are really busy trying to get their kids to and from sporting events, trying to make sure they're making enough money to pay off their mortgage. They don't have time to get enmeshed in every issue. A lot of people just vote the way they have for a long time. You gotta be there when suddenly their antenna go up and they think for a minute, wait, this doesn't make very much sense. That doesn't sound like something that a Democrat would have said in 1988 or 1998. In fact, a lot of the arguments Trump's making right now, democrats made em 25, 30 years ago. So that's my argument of how you win. Politics is the art of persuasion. It's about communication and making the right decisions. And if you decide, I don't want to communicate with anybody who is persuadable or willing to listen to you, I think you guarantee that you're perpetually in the minority. Chris from Tampa. 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Hey, Clay, I love you to death. But. But since you brought it up, you.

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I respect that argument. Here's my argument in the contrary. Then you just give over everything to left wingers. I mean, I could have just said, you know what? I'm fed up with what I see from left wing politics. I'm not going to make arguments anymore. I'm not going to found outkick. I'm not going to do this show and try to speak to a larger community. I'm not going to worry about sports media at all because they disagree with me. So I'm going to go spend my time doing something else. And by the way, the Titans are so bad that a part of me is not watching as much NFL just because my team is the worst in the NFL and I got other things that I would rather do than watch my team get their ass kicked. But we're winning. What you're saying would lead to, oh, Riley Gaines was swimming against a dude pretending to be a chick. She should have just said, I'm done with swimming and gone and spent her time doing something else. Well, what about all those other little girls out there? You don't win by abandoning the battlefield. You might feel better, but to me, you're like the kid who takes his ball and goes home with when he's getting his ass kicked in a game. I'm going to put on the gloves and I'm going to throw punches because I think I'm better at it than the other side. But if I just leave him alone in the ring, he's going to raise his arms above the sky and name himself the champion. And he's going to destroy, in my opinion, American culture. You win by fighting. You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well, they're meant to. I don't agree with some of this stuff. I'm out. Lace them up. Put in your mouth guard and start throwing haymakers. That's what I do every day. And I think we've won because we have better arguments. But that requires that you not abandon the battlefield. And so I think the battlefield of culture is what ultimately decides elections in this country. And sports is maybe the foremost battlefield. And the reason why I trust sports fans is because ultimately they're rational. Everybody believes in the scoreboard. And the scoreboard right now is Republicans are scoring points and making sense and Democrats are not. And if you keep putting points up on your side of the scoreboard. Eventually the culture changes and Donald Trump wins a popular vote victory and hopefully we can string several of those together. That's my thought process and trust me, I spend a lot of time on it. Still waiting on the White House for the Trump press conference and availability with Benjamin Netanyahu. So we hopefully will join some of that before the program ends today. Uh, but in the meantime, I want to tell you all about Lifelock. Are you out there right now on the Internet? If you are, and almost all of you are in some level, your information's probably going to get stolen. Feels like everybody's information is getting stolen all the time. In October, which we're about to get to, is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, a reminder your digital footprint always at risk. Every day hackers steal identities, drain bank accounts, open fraudulent accounts. LifeLock has some tips to help you from becoming a victim of identity theft. Use strong passwords, set up multi factor authentication and regularly update the software on your devices. But for real peace of mind, get LifeLock. LifeLock will monitor hundreds of millions of data points a second for threats to your identity. If your identity stolen, a LifeLock US based restoration specialist will help solve identity theft issues on your behalf, guaranteed or your money back. Plus, all LifeLock plans are backed by the million dollar protection package, meaning LifeLock will reimburse you to your plan's limits if you lose money due to identity thefts. Stay smart, stay safe and stay protected with Lifelock. Get comprehensive identity protection 30 day free [e-mail] use my name Clay as the promo code. That's lifelock.com promo code Clay for 30 days free terms apply. News you can count on and some laughs too. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're still awaiting the press conference with Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu and President Trump. Jennifer H.H. she's with the other guy. Can't be friends with anybody who voted. Kamala, listen.

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I cannot be friends with anybody who voted for Kamala Harris ever or back Biden. No way. So how do you win? I understand that you're sitting around and you're like, I'm going to cut you out. Which is actually a very left wing thing to do. Left wingers are far more likely to say, you can't come to Thanksgiving, you can't come to Christmas. I'm cutting off all family relations. I don't think that's healthy. But how do you win? Politics requires that you persuade people who didn't maybe support you before into supporting you in the future. So if your goal is just to feel better about yourself and feel like you're ideologically pure, then more power to you. I guess psychologically that might be satisfying. But my goal is to win. I'm not just trying to feel better about myself. I'm trying to win a competitive endeavor. And in order to win a competitive endeavor, you have to convince people that you're right. And the only way you can convince people that you're right is by talking to people who disagree with you. Because otherwise you can't win an election. So what is the goal? Is it to be ideologically pure and to be just feel better about yourself or is it to win? My goal is to win. And in order to win, you got to persuade people that you're right. That's the entire basis of the political process. We're going to try to win with Prize Picks. By the way, press conference is is starting right now. We will go to it live. When we come back, President Trump just walking in. Benjamin Netanyahu just walking in Thursday, I'm going to give you a pick. We've won three out of four weeks on Prize Picks. I was hanging out with the founder of Prize Picks over the weekend. He's a University of Georgia graduate, just sold his company for billions of dollars. Pretty good feeling. And he's an awesome guy and he's built a business that just makes sports more fun than it otherwise would be. All you have to do to get $50 when you play $5, trust me. Go to prizepix.com use code clay right now. That's prizepix.com code clay go today prizepix.com code Clay and if you do, you'll get $50 when you play $five and we will have a new pick. We've won three out of four weeks. Can we make it four out of five? That will be the goal on Thursday. Price picks.com code clay. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. We're about to go to the White House where President Trump is spe at Benjamin Netanyahu 20 part piece plan for the Middle East. When we jump in here, it's probably going to be complicated, like jumping into the deep end of the pool. So I'm going to be listening along with you. We may pull out just because it's going to be so complicated and we're jumping in right in the middle. Let me give you one thing in response to some of those callers saying like, hey, I don't want to interact with anybody who voted the other way. I don't think you can win that way. Also got a story quickly here as we get ready for Trump. You know what my grandparents did when they retired? Grandfather worked in a factory his whole life. Grandmother was A school teacher in Georgia. Grandfather was a factory worker in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. They went to work ministering to prisoners who hadn't found Jesus yet. They sat in their homes and wrote letters constantly to prisoners, people who were in prison often for doing very awful things to try to convince them to find Jesus in their life. Reason why I bring it up. If you are religious, would you ever say, I only want to interact with Christians? If you truly believe that the goal of a religion is to save people from eternal damnation, wouldn't you want to focus on trying to save people like my grandparents did? In order to convert, you have to go to the unconverted. It's easy to preach to the choir. It might make you feel better to never be challenged. But real calling is convincing people of something they have not yet realized. In my opinion, that's the entire purpose of Christianity because otherwise Christianity would have ended very quickly. If you said, oh, I'm only going to talk to other people who are Christians, then it would have never spread. It would have never turned into the life changing and cultural enrichment that it became. Just think about that. I understand that politics and religion are somewhat different, but just think about that in your own life. If I'm only talking to people who agree with me all the time, how can you change the world? How can you make it better? And what would have happened to Christianity if early Christians had said that? I'm only going to talk to people who are already Christians. I don't have time for anybody else. It might make you feel better internally, but it's not changing the world. Trust me. Okay, let's go live right now to what we hope could change the world, which is peace in the Middle East. Trump is trying to help make it happen. Benjamin Netanyahu there with him. This is White House right now live.

The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this. So it'd be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States. That's what I want this some extra work to do, but it's so important that I'm willing to do it and we'll do it right. And we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders. And we'll have a board and one of the people that wants to be on the board is the UK Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Good man, Very good man. And some others. And they'll be named over the next few days and it'll be quite the board working. Everybody wants to be on it. Now, I don't know if that had anything to do. They named me and everybody else wanted to be on it. I guess they figure, well, he's a soft touch. He'll be easy to deal with. Working with the World bank and others, it will be responsible for recruiting and training a new government that will be made up of Palestinians, along with highly qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and other terrorist factions will play no role in the board, but they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all, directly or indirectly. As you know, thousands of Hamas leaders have been killed and soldiers have been killed, and we can never forget October 7th. But thousands have paid the price for that. And now it's time to get our hostages back and get back to trying to build something that's really great and very important. In our meeting today, Prime Minister Netanyahu is very clear about his opposition to a Palestinian state. And he continuously mentions October 7th. And I understand that most people do, and I understand and respect his position on many things, but what he's doing today is so good for Israel. I notice that they have large crowds gathering in Israel all the time, and they have my name up. They like me for whatever reason. Bibi, I don't know, but they do like me. But they say two things. Please get the hostages back and please end the war. They've had it. It's had it. So I think it's a very popular thing you do because he's a warrior. He doesn't know about getting back to a normal way of life, but he is a warrior, and Israel is lucky to have him. But now the people want to get back to peace. They want to get back to normalization in a true sense. Several countries have foolishly recognized the Palestinian state as, you know, some of our European friends, allies, good people. But they're really, I think, doing that because they're very tired of what's going on for so many decades. They've been presidents and prime ministers for years. And during this time, having to do with the Middle east, all they're doing is talking about the same thing over and over. They want to see it get back. And nobody wants. Wants that more than me or I believe, Bibi, too. But the people of Israel want it. They really want it. They want the hostages back. That includes the probably 32 bodies that we're talking about, 20 people that are living, 32 or so people that are dead, and they want to have peace. So let us not forget how we got here. Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they would live in peace. Remember that? A long time ago, they withdrew. They said, you take it. This is our contribution to peace. But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let them have it. And I never forgot that, because I said, that doesn't sound like a good deal to me as a real estate person. I mean, they gave up the ocean, right, Ron? They gave up the ocean. They said, who would do this deal? And it still didn't work out. They were very generous, actually. And they gave up the most magnificent piece of land, in many ways, in the Middle East. And they said, all we want to do now is have peace. And that was. That request was not honored. Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, Hamas diverted resources to build over 400 miles of tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their military command posts and launch sites in hospitals, schools, and mosques. So if you went after them, you'd be after them, and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out a hospital or school or a mosque. That terrible thing. Terrible, terrible way to have to fight. No fight is good, but that's a real bad one. So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace? Many, many, many. I've seen so many of them, and they have support. And I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny, because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility for their destiny. Fully condemn and prohibit terrorism and earn their way to a brighter future. They don't want the life that they've had. They've had a rough life with Hamas. If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out and my vision for peace in 2020, they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world, the great, great leaders. These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders that have built great countries and very wealthy countries. What the future holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows. But the plan that we put forward today is focused on ending the war immediately. Getting all of our hostages back, getting everything back. Hard to believe when you even say it. And creating conditions for durable Israeli security and Palestinian success. Israeli security is going to be involved. We're going to help you. We'll be there with you. In terms of helping with security, we want to make sure it works. We just want to make sure it works. There shouldn't be a, a shot fired now. There will be, I guess, because that's the way it seems to be. But they shouldn't have to be within a few days. They shouldn't have to be a shot fired, maybe for eternity. Wouldn't that be nice? I hope it's true. I can tell you the leadership of that region feels that there's a good chance of it being true. So this will lead to a disagreement that we're talking about, will lead to a sustainable long term peace. No president in history has been a greater friend of the state of Israel than I have. In addition to negotiating the Abraham Accords, I like to say it that way because the real people, that's what they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but it's so much nicer when you say Abraham.

All right, that is vintage Trump. Let's pull here. We're going to go to a break. Biggest takeaway here is that Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said, quote, if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release of all remaining hostages immediately. But in no case more than 72 hours, the hostages are coming back. But if they do not agree to this, he is saying basically you're going to have to deal with Netanyahu, essentially Hamas and the people of Gaza. This is my last best offer and it's time to accept it. We'll continue to monitor. We'll grab you a couple of clips as we are going to break here. This is all happening in real time. Trump trying as many presidents before him have and frankly as every president before him so far has failed to create a form of lasting peace in the Middle east. Is a 20 part peace plan that the White House has released. That is he is discussing right now. Very complicated but we certainly will be talking about it a lot probably starting tomorrow. Throughout the course of the week as we wait to see how Hamas is going to respond. Look, the fall is beautiful until it leads to gutters overclogging your gutters. And that is what Leaffilter is all about. America's number one gutter protection. Right now you can save up to 30% off your entire purchase at Leaffilter's website by going to leaffilter.com clay protect your home from flooding, roof damage, rotting and foundational issues. A leaf filter trusted pro will clean out, realign, seal your gutters before installing leaff filters. Over 1 million homeowners today have trusted leaffilter. Don't spend this fall worrying about your gutters. Schedule your free inspection. Get up to 30, 30 off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com Clay the leaffilter solution includes a lifetime no clog guarantee. That's leafilter.com Clay free estimate free inspection 30% off at leaffilter.com clay that's leaffilter.com Clay see representative for warranty details. Making America Great Again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck Podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show President Trump right now addressing the situation in Hamas in Gaza as a result of Hamas's action actions. And the key takeaway, I would say right now, and I'm sure we're going to be talking about this a lot tomorrow, is Israel has agreed to the 20 point peace plan put in place by Trump and his administration. So far, Hamas has not. And that is the, that is the, the status of where we are. So I always think, how can I sum up a situation as succinctly as possible? Because the world is complicated and it's very hard sometimes. Trump has said if Hamas rejects the deal, Israel has my full backing to destroy Hamas. This is interesting because ultimately, even if you're not engaged in the Middle east, here's an easy concept to consider. If Israel put down its weapons, Israel would not exist within a week. If all of Israel's adversaries put down their weapons, there would be peace in the Middle East. Very simple. If you're wondering who is the aggressor here, who is the bad guy? Hamas is the bad guy. Now, there are lots of people, I think, who live in the Palestinian era, who live in Gaza that are fantastic people that just want to raise, that live in peace and want to raise their families and have prosperity. Unfortunately, Hamas is not allowing that to happen. And I feel fortunate. About 10 months ago, we took a long trip to Israel. It was eye opening, it was educational, it was enriching. And I came back more convinced than ever before that we have to ensure that we do everything we can to bring peace to the Middle east. Because if we do not, eventually we reap that whirlwind of conflict even here. That's my opinion. Some of you disagree, by the way. A lot of people agreeing, a lot of people disagreeing every single day. That's healthy. That's what a good radio program should be doing. Buck Sexton, by the way, in Taiwan this week. So you got me solo. Buck is on a fact finding mission to Taiwan. I bet he will come back with some very interesting perspectives on what may be the biggest flashpoint in all of Asia. What is China going to do about Taiwan? That is where Buck is right now. Scott, a lot of emails rolling in. Let me read a couple of them. Scott says, great topic. The biggest problems I see today with the left is cancel culture. They went so far as to cancel Charlie Kirk in the most extreme way and he wasn't about cancel culture. Let's be different, keep open the channels of communication. There was a time in our country's history and I believe the founding fathers thought the same thing. Men of good conscience can disagree. How about Tip o' Neill and Ronald Reagan? Let's keep the windows, doors of communications open. Let's be the new founding Fathers. And here is an email from Horace. I said, look, the left is the one that is canceling you. I don't think you win. I use the example of my grandparents. They retired. They spent the rest of their life in retirement trying to convince people who were behind bars in prison that they should find Jesus. My grandfather learned how to type. Former football player at the University of Tennessee used to complain all the time that he'd never be able to type because his fingers were too big for the typing type of board. My grandmother got him to learn how to type so that he could reach out to prisoners behind bars and try to convince them that they should find Jesus. There are very few people out there who are more condemned, who are dealing with more condemnation roaring down upon them than people behind bars for violent crimes. That's who my grandparents decided they were going to speak to. Listen to this email from Horace. Just think about it. This is Horace Clay. I really agree with you about being friends with people who disagree with you. I'm a black, Catholic, conservative, Republican. People who I thought were my friends, who I enjoyed being with actually cut me loose as a friend once they discovered I was a Republican. I've been shunned by other black people who stopped associating with me and inviting me to get togethers. It's not been a choice necessarily that most of my friends about Trump, my liberal friends no longer want anything to do with me. Three of my four sisters are liberal, but we still have a great rapport with one another. The one who's a Trump supporter supports me too. We have a great rapport as well. I haven't cut off my liberal friends. They've distanced themselves from me. Love your show. Keep on keeping on. God bless. God bless all of you. We'll be back tomorrow.

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