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Is Everything Is a Psyop? Finding Truth In A World Of Lies
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Believe that everything is a lie? Do you believe that you're under a constant attack from every type of psychological operation there is? Join me as I help you to navigate all of these psyops. This is the David Rutherford Show. Well know our disinformation campaign campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false. This quote is attributed to William J. Casey, who was the CIA director from 1981 to 1987 under President Ronald Reagan. It is noted that the authenticity of it has been a little bit debated and the original source was Barbara Haniger who claimed she was at a meeting when he said this. However, whether it's true or false, there is a. An assumption that pretty much everything that we are witnessing on the Internet, in the news cycle, through our government, through foreign governments, through our, the nos, through everything, is a psyop. Now, in fact, my best friend Sean Ryan was on with Tucker Carlson recently and, and, and had the. The courage to literally say everything is a lie. Now, this is incredibly difficult for some people to hear, but if you're like me and you are struggling to process the magnitude of information that's coming at us at speeds the likes of, with human beings, have never, ever experienced before in human history, you probably have this feeling too. And it's a, it's a tough feeling to have because you know, when the framework of how you believe in something, whether it's through our institutions, our health institutions, our, our intelligence institutions, our police forces, our community institutions, our business institutions, when we start to believe, when the public starts to believe that they're not getting the truth in any way, shape or form, what does that do? Well, it jolts the very fabric of your. The very fabric of, of your subjective perception of reality. Now, why have we gotten to this place? Now, Jordy and I have these conversations more than you could possibly fathom. In fact, right before we were getting on, we were talking about a couple other of the psyops that have taken place and we've been going down these rabbit holes. We'll hopefully do a show on these in the future, but right now we're trying to investigate them to a place where we feel comfortable that we can deliver them. But, you know, I mean, I think you are well aware of this because you're feeling it. You're seeing it. These are not ideas. Right? The, the very idea of a conspiracy theory we know was a term that was invented by, by whom, Jordy? Don't know. The Central Intelligence Agency. Why is that always, always the answer? And they invented it as a result of, of people questioning the narrative about the jfk, about President John F. Kennedy's assassination. Hell, I just saw Tim Blanchard on a video. He was in a briefing from the, the, the medical doctor who saw Kennedy in Houston and said there were four bullet entries into the President, which leads to believe it could have been two to three different shooters. All right, so, all right, that's the mother of all conspiracy theories, right? The mother of all psyops that has been run against the American public for a long period of time. Now, today's show, what I'm going to attempt to do is look at this a little, you know, objectively, if I can. Obviously with my background working in special operations and also working for private military industrial complex as well as the Central Intelligence Agency, there is no doubt in, in my military mind. Right, Jord, that we are going to be inundated in comments and post that. Well, old Rut's just running another psyop, right? So here we go. Here we go. Right? All right, so as I evaluate what's going on right now, like one of the funniest ones is people calling my best friend Sean Ryan a psyop and that he's actually still working with the government and he's trying to manipulate the masses to the tune of his, what, so some 30 plus million downloads a month. It's all, it's all being pushed by a psy up. And I can tell you that's categorically all right. I'm, I'm a guy talks to him just about every week, sometimes every day of the week. And, and that's just not the case, I'm telling you. All right, the other aspect is, you know, the Epstein, I mean, we even had Elon Musk perpetuate another, you know, conspiracy theory that Trump's in, in the Epstein files, to which, of course Dan Bongino and Patel and others have, and JD Vance have categorically said that's not true. You know, but it's not just the Epstein. We, we understand now in depth, so much information about Epstein and his relationships with various people across various different organizations and funding and background. And it all seems to be peculiar about how this guy comes out of nowhere and is able to do what he's doing. And you know, for me, the biggest one was when the attorney general in Florida or, or one of the deputies during that time was investigating case and afterwards made in a, in a news article. Well, I, I was told I can't touch him. He's part of intelligence. Right? You know, so you've got that which is exploding and just hanging on the consciousness of all of us every day, right? Because why the hell would you protect anybody that's, that's, you know, destroying young women or destroying young kids in any way, shape or form in all these malicious stories that have come out. And, and certainly with when Virginia Dufree commits suicide about a month ago or whatever. You know, again, that just provokes the idea that everything's a psyop. I think the one that really, you know, kind of woke everybody up and, and I know Jordy, you and I have talked about this was Covid, right? It was the, the messaging, right? When every single TV station, news station around the the country is par same dialogue, right? Oh, it started in a wet market. It started with the bat. It started with this. And you know, meanwhile, right about the same time it's releasing there's a, a war game for pandemics taking place called Vent 201 that has the deputy director of the CIA, the head of, of international news organizations and businesses all meeting around round top. Now what do we do? How do we control the narrative during a pandemic? Right? And oh shit, few months later we're facing a pandemic which very quickly we came to realize was only going after people that had all different types of pre existing conditions. It's attacking the old people. You know, it's got a death rate of, of 0.1 something, you know, very low. Nobody's dying, but yet next thing we know we're standing six feet apart, we're getting, I'm getting screamed at, at soccer games for not wearing a mask outside, right? Almost getting into fights everywhere I go and I'm in Florida. I couldn't imagine what I'd be like if I lived in Illinois or New York or one of these other crazy places. Right? Well, the experts agree. That's right. The experts listen to the experts. Well, I'm all of them agree. Yeah, that's right. And, and that's what we were just talking about. Jordy, comment on that a little bit what you just said there? Yeah, I said that, you know, if 70% of experts agree and 30% disagree, there's probably potentially something there to the truth. But if all of the experts in something agree on one side of a narrative that's a red flag. And who, and who got hammered, right? You got Batachari, who's one of the world's leading scientists. They canceled him. Dr. Robert Malone, that we had. They canceled him. I mean, you were literally shut down and your life was attemptedly destroyed. And because God bless Mike Benz because of the work he's done to, to, you know, really dig in as well as, you know, when we got the Twitter fires, Michael Shellenberg, Matt Taibbi, Barry Weiss, and what we found out about the government's own influence on these social media companies, you know, basically telling them, you know, I mean, what's his name? Old. Old Runs. Meta. Old Zuck himself was on with Joe Rogan and said, I. They basically threatened our entire existence, you know, with section 230 if, if we didn't go along with the narrative. YouTube still banning people for. Right. Anti vaccine, whatever, you know, so you have the COVID narrative that then led into what, the MRNA shots where you have the people who are familiar saying this is a gene editing sequence. No, no, no. These people are conspiracies, theories, blah, blah, blah. Not happening. Meanwhile, all the experts come out and, and, and now we have forced vaccination, which is against Geneva Conventions, and we have forced venom. You could argue the whole George Floyd thing was a massive psyop, right? Now, whether or not you want to get into an argument about the persecution of inner city minorities, in particular African Americans, and how they've been treated over the years, there is no doubt in my mind that, that in, in certain areas in the country, certain cities, the abuse of power against these people has been catastrophic. But when you look at the FBI crime statistics from 2019 and you see, what is it? Only 18 unarmed black men were killed by, by police officers. In fact, more unarmed white men were killed by, by police officers in that time. You know, it kind of dispels the idea when you go, when they were in the streets, how many black men do you think are killed every year? And some people would be like 5,000, 10,000, 20,000. Well, where does that come from? Where does that information come from? Who's proselytizing that non statistical, non factual information that shifts the narrative and the psychology of a particular group or groups of people, right? Who led that? And now that we've seen the autopsy reports on George Floyd, he had enough fentanyl in him to kill a horse, right? And the guy was an existing criminal, right? He had gone to jail before by holding a gun at a pregnant woman's belly while his associates Ransacked her, her house and he did time for that. So this criminal, who's essentially Odin on, on Fentanyl, is now a hero against this cop who was integrating a, a tactic that was actually taught in his police training. Right? Now how did that narrative get built? How did we get to a point where we had hundreds of thousands of people in the streets burning places down? And who paid for a lot of those, right? Who paid for those riots? Who funded those riots? Who bought tickets for those riots? Now I know what you're going to say. You're going to say if you're not on conservative or right or left, whatever, you're going to say, well Ruth, you know, what about all the lies on the other side? I'm with you, man. The war in Iraq, if that wasn't a psyop, then what the hell was? I mean, they paraded, you know, these top people out in front of the world and said, yeah, absolutely, you know, Saddam Hussein developing nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction, gonna do all this. Like I had buddies that were on the original group that was sent out there to look for this, these things with it without the agency. And some of the stories I heard don't kind of match that narrative. And now we've had people openly admit that that narrative was coerced and concocted not by the left, but by the right, by the Bush administration, by Secretary Rice, by Colin Powell, got in front of the entire world and said, yep, he's, he's going to do it. There were even people said, yeah, they're part of Al Qaeda. Was that a psyop? Was that the truth? We can talk about 9 11. I mean there's people out there raising all kinds of stinks about 911 right now. And if you don't explain Building 7 to me, or the, or worse, explain to me the documents that we have now, who was funding and who was monitoring some of these pilots while they lived out in California and Florida? I mean they were on everybody's radar. They knew what was going on. The Saudis were running a couple of them as assets. Were they communicating with our, our Central Intelligence Agency? We certainly know that, that the agency funded the Muhajedin, that funded Bin Laden back in the 80s against the war in Russia, Right? Or how about, let's go even deeper, how about Iran Contra? How about Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin? Hot days, humid nights and non stop plans. 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The British government established the War propaganda bureau in 1914, marking one of the earliest organized efforts in psychological warfare. This bureau centralized the production and distribution of propaganda materials, including leaflets, pamphlets aimed at influencing public opinion both domestically and enemy territories. By 1918, the British Foreign Officer appointed the Viscount Northcliffe as the Director of Propaganda in enemy countries, overseeing targeting Austria, Hungary and Germany. Right. I don't think you're naive. In fact, I know you're not. I know you're smart and I know, you know, you've heard these things in various ways probably throughout your whole life, whether you've watched some kind of JFK movie, my Oliver Stone, or you're all over the Internet now, now, and you're, you're gravitating towards these people or who've accessed these documents. I mean, look at Julian Assange himself. I mean we have the WikiLeaks documents that basically proved a lot of the stuff that was going on on both sides of the aisle in America. And in January 1918, the US War Department established the Psychological subsection, later renamed the Propaganda Section, under Military Intelligence Division MI2. Captain Herbert Blankenhorn, a civilian journalist, was appointed to lead this unit. The mission of the Psychological subsection was to organize and implement psychological strategies to influence enemy morale and support US military objectives. Between August and November 1918, the propaganda section produced approximately 5.1 million leaflets in 18 different designs. These leaflets were disseminated primarily through, through aerial drops, hydrogen balloons. The content aimed to demoralize German troops and encourage surrender and terror. Surrender interrogations of German prisoners of war and post war analysis indicate that these efforts contributed to the erosion of enemy morale in the final months of the war. Right. Now, hold your. You know, I'm not trying to say, oh, America's bad, because man, and I love America more than anything that's out there, right? There's no other place that I would ever want to live. There's no other country I would ever want to serve. I serve my country. I lost friends to this. Trust me, I'm all in on America. I'm all in on this thing. I'm all in on anything that's going to make America great too. All right? But however, this is a reality of how things are done. If you don't believe that, you're naive. Now this is also a reality in every other place as well too. Right. You know, I just want to talk a little bit about. Let's talk about the Russian Revolution, right, which was immeasurably a component of propaganda. You had led by pregnant Bolsheviks, Vladimir Lenin, right? You have, using not newspapers like Pravda, co edited by Joseph Stalin, Vishenklof Maltov, amongst others. You had Leon Trotsky, who was trained in propaganda, right? They all played a major role which led to this civil war, you know, and they established the Glevit, the Glavlet, the main administration for literary and publishing affairs and in 1922 to oversee censorship and propaganda. Now we know, undoubtedly through people like Alexander Scholzenitsa and the Gulag Archipelagos, that Stalin took this to a whole nother level where his whole thing behind communism was to get, you know, everybody online. And, and what happened is that you would move up the chain of society up into the elevated levels, you know, and what happened ultimately got to a place where children would lie to move up to get extra food or power, whatever, and tell, yeah, my, my parents are part of the bourgeois right. They're oppressors, they're against the, the regime. And what do we know as a result of this type of propaganda influence, somewhere between 40 and 65 million human beings were annihilated as a result of it. Annihilated. They were not imprisoned, they were annihilated. They were starved to death. They were incarcerated. I mean, I mean he wiped out massive amounts of, of, of professors in their universities. He wiped out politicians, he wiped out war heroes from World War II when they got back in the third purge, right? So we know, you know, these tyrannical regimes were they, they did it. And we can always talk about Joseph Goebbels, right? I mean, this Guy took propaganda to a whole nother level. I mean he, with his movies and his, the rhetoric and how he would make these insane promotional videos of Hitler and his speeches and they, the flags and the, the pomp and circumstance and the dog and ponies and you know, those insane, you know, every seek heil and I mean that was powerful stuff for the German people. And then whatever information that was coming out of the west, calling out his atrocities and his, his, his insanity, you know, they would take it, flip it and use it for the German people. Right? And you know, you combined just those two governments alone and what they're capable of. And you've got the atrocity of World War II, which is, you know, some say 75, 80 million people. But how many people were incinerated where there was no more, you couldn't find any of them or there are no records or, I mean it could be even more than we could possibly fathom. So this is something that is very much a part of, of who we are and what we are. You know, one of the guys that I keep referencing a lot that's exposing this kind of censorship industrial complex or the, the heart of, of, of kind of modern propaganda and psyops is Mike Benz. And I, and I really, I really have a tremendous amount of respect for the, the, the, in the information that he's putting out. And you can, you can follow him. He's been on, he's been on Tucker, he's been on Joe Rogan, he's been on Sean's show, he's has his own stream all day. You know, one of the most recent ones, my favorite was, you know, he, Bono was on Joe Rogan and basically made the claim that 300,000 children are dead as a result of canceling the fund funding or shutting down usaid, which he has also exposed as one of the primary components of, of fulfilling color revolutions over the last 25 years around the world. I mean, USAID was responsible for funding 9 out of 10 newspapers and journals or periodicals in Ukraine over the last five years. So he says 300,000 based on this study that was done from one person up in the Boston area. And, and immediately Mike Benz uncovers that, you know, he did this concert back in the day, Live Aid, which I, you know, I remember that, that whole thing, I was a firm supporter. Let's feed the star. Even kids in Africa. I mean, I loved it. I loved, love his music, I love U2's music. But Mike Ben's came out that during that they raised $100 million and there's an article and you can find it under his, his work he did that basically says only $5 million of that money raised went to feed children and 95 million went to give guns to the rebels in these areas that were trying waging these civil wars that affected and ultimately butchered and maimed and killed know, innocent women and children, now elderly people. So you know, when you start to think about that, it's intense. Well, here's the one, and this came out in, in 1948, the National Security Council directive NSC 10 SL2 was a foundational D document and it was acted on June 18th, 1948 and it established the US the framework for US covert operations including the use of plausible deniability. Right. And it defined covert operations as activities conducted or quote conducted or sponsored by this government against hostile foreign states or groups in support of friendly foreign states or groups, but which are so planned and execute that any US Government responsibility for them is not evident to, to unauthorized persons. And that if uncovered the US Government, ready, here's the kicker, can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Now I can tell you plausible deniability is, is an accurate claim. And you know what, it's been very useful. I'm not going to say that it's not a useful tool for us to contain legitimate operations around the world to protect our homeland, to protect our people, to protect our interests. I would be insane of me to say that that's, that's not valuable to us as a nation. Right. It's critical that we have these capabilities. But like any tool being used to wield power around the world, a what happens when the wrong people get a part of that tool? Now what I found really interesting, you know, the, in the architect of this whole thing was a guy named George F. Keenan and he was the director of the policy planning staff at the State Department. And what you have to understand is that back then it was, it was the War Department, the State Department and essentially, you know, Internal Revenue Service were the main things. But you know, you go into a world war and everything changes, right? And you have to come up with all these new ideas and plans on how to assess major threats to our existence around the world. And what I found kind of interesting was right around that same time the Smith Mundt act was established. In 1948, the United States Information and Education Exchange act of 1948, commonly known as Smith Monk act, was enacted to promote U. S. Public diplomacy and information programs abroad such as those run by the State Department. And Voice of America, a key provision prohibited the dissemination of information produced for foreign audiences within the United States. And essentially what this was was designed to restrict the ability for the US Government to use propaganda against its own people. You know, and there is also the national security Act of 1947. And this act establishes a framework for the U.S. intelligence and national security operations, including the creation of the CIA National Security Council. But it drew a bright line between the foreign and domestic intelligence activities to protect civil liberties. Right now they recognize that, you know, hey, we have to protect ourselves against this. Now, unfortunately, again, as any tools are used in that plausible dying deniability, you know, really kind of began to shift over time. And you know, within the 1950s and 60s, the, you know, the famous ones that, that have come out, obviously one being Operation Chaos, which is where the CIA initiated programs in conjunction with the FBI and other intelligence operations to aimed at moderating and infiltrating anti war organizations during the Vietnam War. So they basically said, hey, listen, if you're a threat to our foreign policy, we're gonna put eyes on you and we're going to disrupt you and we're going to influence you to do acts that then can take other people down. Right? It's, it's covert operations like we do overseas, right? We infiltrate these foreign terrorist organizations or governments and we, we collect assets, we bring them onto payroll, we influence them, we manipulate them, and they give us information. And then we, we do all kinds of, of COVID military and paramilitary and intelligence covert actions. And, but you know, in these, they were, they were run against the American people. You know, this involved the surveillance of over 7,000Americans and the infiltration of various groups, including the Black Panther Party. The Studies for the Democratic Society, you know, which were all kind of brought out in the Church Committee hearings in the 1970s because we, and then we found out about COIN, COINTELPRO, which was an FBI led series of COVID and often illegal activities armed at surveillance, infiltrating, discrediting, disrupting domestic political organizations deemed as. Subversive. Yeah, subversive. Then we had Operation Mockingbird right where. That's where the alleged program the CIA began in the late 1940s, which continued through the 1970s, aimed at influencing domestic and foreign media. The CIA reportedly recruited journalists from major news outlets to disseminate propaganda, suppress information unfavorable to U.S. interests. The program was exposed in the 1970s by the church Code Committee. Now, you know, you can also get into MK Ultra, which is the one everybody wants to talk about as the ultimate PSYOP where you can actually program individuals to go do your dastardly deeds. You know, they, they targeted Height Ashberry in the late 60s. They've targeted other people. And you know, and, and there's information and documents that have come out that prove this all existed. The PSYOP of UFOs is many people believe that that's been a psyop from the beginning, beginning. Now it's reaching, you know, cataclysmic proportions where everybody in the brother is talking about this internal program. We know people are here, this, the skin walkers, the reptilians, right? There's like four different, you know, people living in the center of the world. Is that a psyop or isn't? Certainly is going to destabilize people and make people afraid. It's going to question, it's going to induce fear. And that's a problem. Fear is what they're after. And fear is the thing that enables, that really prevents and provokes people to, to get into this. And so once that fear is initiated in you, then things change, you know, and what was happened, the church committee, all this came out, the whole public was fear. They shut it down. Carter, all these operations within the agency, intel, FBI. Then he went out of office, right? Reagan came in, flipped the switch back on. Now if you were to imagine that those organizations are not conducting any of these, it's just simply not true. We know it's not true. Now the question becomes to what degree.
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Jana Kramer
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David Rutherford
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Jana Kramer
Now?
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David Rutherford
Here's what I'm gonna tell you. Everything is definitely not a psyop, right? I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm a hundred percent telling you quantifiably, we give a lot more credit to these organizations than they deserve. And it's not to say there are some of the most talented people on the planet. Man, I worked with some people at, at where I worked in particular. The direct. A few direct hires that I worked with were, were phenomenal. I mean, these guys and these women that I worked with were incredible patriots, incredibly dedicated. One of my closest friends out there is still doing it, and he is, bar none, one of the most people that has the highest integrity of people I've ever met in my life. Same in DOD and Special Operations. Right? So. So not everything is a psyop. It makes you it easier for us to question and. But it does. What it does is it provokes a deeper sense of critical thinking. And that's what I need you to do. I need you to start thinking more critically not to believe every single ex post that exists, right? To. To really get in to the understanding of how these things are taking place. Right? You know, we have been lured in by these mythologies of our past to believe that things are in these binary choices, right? Everything's either communism or everything's either fascism, Everything's either capitalism or everything's either, you know, totalitarianism, right? Oh, there. A lot of that is true. And there are definitely nefarious organizations on every side trying to work for their own political and financial gain. Just ask my friend EM Burlingame, for sure. But there's also a significant amount of people on this planet that are not trying to generate psyops, that are not out there manipulating for any other reason, but trying to influence you because they believe something in their heart. I think that's where this show comes from. I've been around enough and seen enough to know that. But, you know, the best way to try and influence people is to Tell them the truth and how you feel and what you believe. Right? And if you get hit with a hard question, you know, to, to, to come up with a difficult answer within yourself, to scan the, the, the complete narrative of how you look at what our core values are. And for me as a Christian, for me as an American, you know, I'm not going to get lured into that, that, that trope, not going to be manipulated by those ideas behind communism and fascism and totalitarianism and, and beyond greed within capitalism. I'm not just not gonna do it. I have too much to lose, including my reputation, but more so the faith of my close friends and my, most importantly, my family. That's what matters most. And it should matter to you as well too. Like that's what should matter. Are you out there reposting these things because you like to get more clicks or you like to stir the pooch, or you, you just like to hammer people that you don't agree on ideologically? Remember, the whole idea of all of this propaganda, all of these psyops, is to make you and me hate each other. That's the whole point behind this stuff, is to get them to make us divided, to make us against each other on these, these other things over here that are distracting these, these other things instead of paying attention to the bigger things. Like, you know, why are, why is our, our, our deficit increasing by a trillion dollars every three months? Why. Why are we conducting proxy wars overseas that could potentially lead to World War 3? Why are we being taxed at such an insane rate that it's destroying the futures of young people today who can't buy a house, who can't pay off their loans, who can't, can't pay for their. Whatever it is people. And that's why nobody's getting married, nobody's having kids, nobody's doing that. You know, I do understand that there's a certain group of people that want the breakdown of our, our, of our society to take place, to move people away from faith, to break down the family. And yeah, that's real too. But is it, you know, is it enough to make you stop believing in what you know to be the truth? Right? So the questions you have to ask yourself is, who is perpetuating the narrative that you're being influenced by? Who specifically what person? What's their background? Where do they come from? What are their belief systems? When did they start? Part, right. Where do they come from? Right? What is, why are they perpetuating the name? The other is who's paying for their narrative, where's the funding about it? Where's that coming from? And it, within that narrow, within that payment system, are they hiding it? Are they affiliated with Pete, with other groups, organizations that they're being fed by that are conducting other different psychological operations or nefarious activities? You know, and then also what studies, what research the experts, if you will, what facts are being used to influence you? We see these little pieces, these statistics come out, but yet all of a sudden now we take that one little thread, that one little thing, and we slap it down as the ultimate designation of our ideology. Why? Why are you doing this, man? We need to get past those superficial designations, those superficial threads of our ideology and get back to the root of what we genuinely believe in. And what I believe is the overwhelming majority of us believe in the same thing. Now, regardless of what you believe or which side you're on with Trump and Elon, whatever, he ran this amazing, this amazing poll on his account yesterday, and it said, do you believe that America needs a new party? And when I looked at the last, there was 1.7 million votes that had been conducted, and over 83% of those people who voted said yes, we need to break that down. That's part of this whole idea that we're being lied to by the two parties that have been in charge for very long time. Time. But also it's a. I think it's a condemnation of the experts in the institutions that now we all feel are in jeopardy. We don't believe the experts anymore. And there's. Right, there's a reason. You know, then the last part is I want you to really think about what is the intent of the article, the post, the video, or the story that's being told to you. What's the intent? For me, right now, my intent is to get you to think, to pull out of the hole you're in because of the pressures, the tsunami and information that's being thrust at you to get you to back away, to not engage, to break contact, because that's what everybody wants you to do. As long as you're disengaged from these critical things of your local government, your local communities, your local, your, you know, your state governments, to get you to disengage because it's overwhelming to you. That's the intent. And I even started to talk about AI. I mean, there's people out there. When you listen to these experts, there will come a time where nothing is distinguishable. You won't be able to tell between what's. What's real and what's not and what does the American public demand there? We remember the last time time, right. Do you remember, remember how you felt after 9 11? Remember how you were whipped into a frenzy to go after an adjective or a verb called terrorism? What is who. Who's terrorism? Right. And we're able to manipulate that concept constantly. Wait till AI is, is running the show currently. There are bot farms. I heard someone tell me once that kind of was in the know there. There's a 2 million people in China that are tasked with generating miss and mal information, all the different whatever, controlling these bot farms over in China, right. You don't think that's happening over in Russia and Ukraine and Africa and Iran and Israel and. And the U.S. government itself. You don't think we're doing all that as well too to. So when AI gets to a place where it's indistinguishable, what do we do? Do we come out and say we Want Patriot Act 2.0? Like. Like you heard me in the one I talked about that week in review and I talked about the one big beautiful bill that little provision about no state can question the federal government's AI implementation or spending. Why do they do that? Why do they put it in there? Because they want control of the narrative. And it's going to get tougher and tougher. But here's what you're gonna do, right? This is what you're gonna do. You're gonna learn to think critically. You're going to surround yourself with people that are able not to be too emotional. One way or the other, you're going to go. You're going to go fact by fact. You're going to unwind that pole that them sucking you into these ideological ideas, these ideological constructs that have been in play for thousands of years in different civilizations in one way or another. We're going to get back to that fact by fact. Now I know what you're saying. Rut. You're going rut. How do I know what's a fact and what's not? Therein lies the dedication, the commitment to what you believe in. And if you're a true seeker of the truth, because as you know, the truth will set you free. If you're a true believer in that, then you will do the work. You will do the work not only to educate yourself, but to educate those you love most, your children. To teach them the real history of things, to expose them to people that are unencumbered by a political drive or an economic influence, but people that are desired to bring forth what they believe to be the truth and have done the work. And then the last thing, if you have the opportunity to get face to face to somebody, have a conversation, question them on their facts. I was at an event a few. Few months ago and. And I had. Somebody wanted to sit down with me and, and call me out on some of the things that I was suggesting to be true. And as he would call me out, make these statements about Trump and about other things I believed in, you know, he would, I would come back, well, why don't you believe this? And he would just say, oh, well, he's a crazy person, or he's a liar. And I'd say, well, give me one example of how he lied. Well, he said all, you know, neo Nazis are very fine people. And I was like, dude, that's been debunked. Or, you know, but President Obama said it. It's been debunked. Or, you know, now we know, you know, the whole thing. Joe Biden is at his best I've ever seen him. That's a psyop. Hey, that's to maintain political control or power. That's a psyop. So you get in front of people, make them express themselves. Don't, you know, keep your cool, keep yourself. Don't get crazy like the other crazies out there, because that's their job, to be crazy. It's their job to make you lose control. It's their job to make you fracture your foundation and beliefs. That's their job, is to make that fracture. One of my favorite, you know, videos that's out online is that famous former KGB agent Yuri Beznoff, who's interviewed in the 80s and 70s. And this whole thing, regardless of what side, whether it's communism, capitalism, totalitarianism, fascism, whatever it is, is to get you to question everything, including your core beliefs. So what I'm asking you to do, in fact, what I'm begging you to do, is get face to face with people, not only people who don't believe you, but people who do and have the same and similar interests. And you'd be surprised. There's more people on your block that believe the same thing, regardless of the color of their skin, the color of their hair, regardless of their political affiliation, or their economic, you know, status. There's core ideals, core morals that we all believe in, in. And that's where you center your foundation. Those are the cornerstones in order for you to combat the idea that everything's a psyop thank you so much for joining us today on this show. I hope you enjoyed it. What would we would love for you to do is to like and comment and share it with a friend. It helps our our algorithm for us to move up where you can follow us on every major platform at David Rutherford show. That's Tik tok, Instagram, Facebook. We're on X D Rutherford show. You find us on YouTube please sign up for our channel. If you want to find clips and cuts we've got a Patreon account please we have special content we distribute there. If you want to know more about me please visit our website@davidrutherford.com we've got a fantastic five day embrace fear challenge that you can find under courses. If you're struggling, if all of these psyops have gotten your fear out of control and you're in that place where you're really not sure, the first thing you do is got to embrace your fear. You got to get that back under control. And I have a five day challenge that can initiate that. And then I also have a course that you'll be able to do that with as well. A longer, more intense course that I took two years to develop this. It's one of the core ideas behind the Frog Logic concepts which is the motivational performance training that I give online that there. So please check that out. But more importantly, what I'd love for you to do is I'd love for you to go to those people that you know, that you care about, that you love and help them reinvest in their core beliefs and help that protect them and protect each other against everything that we believe might be a psyop. Thank you very much. Godspeed.
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Jana Kramer
For some of us, personal finances aren't just personal. They include a lot more people than ourselves, loved ones, neighbors, the communities we call home, and the causes we hold in our hearts. At Thrivent, we help plan your financial picture with the bigger picture in mind. Because even though our business is helping guide your finances, our ambition is to make make it mean so much more Thrivent where money means more Connect with us@thrivent.com Travel smarter, not harder at America's Best Value in by Sonesta with convenient locations from coast to coast and value packed comfort at every turn. And when you're a Sonesta Travel Pass member, staying at America's Best Value Inn means earning points toward free nights, upgrades and more. Go to sonesta.com to book your stay and unlock their best rates with Sonesta Travel Pass here today, Rome tomorrow. Join now@sinesta.com Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to the W where elite athletes are redefining the game of basketball. From buzzer beating shots, jaw dropping defense and logo threes, the WNBA delivers nonstop action and world class talent every game. These athletes don't just play the game, they elevate it. The biggest stars, The Brightest Age AT&T WNBA All Star 2025 comes to Indianapolis July 18th 19th. Tune into the game July 19th at 8:30pm Eastern Time on ABC.
- [61:38]
David Rutherford
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Jana Kramer
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