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It's a Numbers Game: BREAKING NEWS: Minneapolis Shooting – Instant Reaction to ICE Killing of Alex Pretti
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Welcome to a Numbers Game with Ryan Graduski. This is our mini episode. I know a lot of listeners to the show are probably is like a mini episode. You've never done this well for special incidences where there's a breaking news moment that I can't get to in in the preceding episode. Tomorrow's episode is already recorded with Ann Coulter, so but we're not talking about the ICE shooting Minneapolis and I think that needs to be addressed from me, I'm sure most of you know what happened, but if you don't, I'll brief everybody on the situation. On Saturday, federal agent in Minneapolis shot and killed a 37 year old nurse named Alex Jeffrey Pretty Pretty or Prady, I don't know the pronunciation of the last name. Pretty is how I'll say it. Of course there was video evidence which shows Alex Pretty resisting arrest there. There's about half a dozen federal ICE agents on top of him trying to subdue him. Clearly he was a very strong man. They have him down when one of the agents discovers a gun on him. The man was carrying a 9 millimeter handgun, a very expensive gun I might add. When it was discovered that he had the gun, the agent who sees it and takes it from him screams the word gun. And another agent hearing the word gun at that point I guess in the confusion and in the moment fires the gun and shoots Mr. Priddy multiple times, killing him. Secretary of DHS Christine Noem came out with a statement saying Mr. Priddy was there to kill ICE agents or hurt ICE agents. He wasn't from Minneapolis and this area specifically and he was actually carrying the gun illegally for Minneapolis Law which, according to that local law, says you need to have an ID on you while carrying a firearm. Of course, the left is insisting that this was a public execution by ICE agents, carrying out and calling them Gestapo and, you know, using a bunch of dehumanizing language. Here's what you need to know. First of all, as someone who's been extremely supportive of ICE and President Trump's immigration policy, I need to speak candidly and honestly. I think there was a lot of mistakes by ICE officers. I don't think it was intentional. I think that in the moment with whistles going off, with fighting, with shoving each other, and you hear the word gun, I think he acted on instinct, but I think it was a mistake. This is not the same as the Renee Goods case, where she was charging her car towards ICE agents, and she made a lot of bad decisions that led to her untimely death. This situation escalated. It was escalating in part because Alex Preddy had this scuffle. He refused, harassed, but he didn't do anything that deserved him getting shot and killed. I spoke to my good friend who's a criminal defense attorney who was very sympathetic towards Mr. Priddy and a supporter of President Trump's, and she said, quote, if you have a firearm and it's a legal firearm, as was the case, Mr. Pretty, and you get into a conflict with law enforcement and they decide to detain you, even if you think that they are wrong, do not resist. But if you have a gun, you should say, so, don't resist. Let them disarm you, even if you are lawfully armed. And. And. And even if you're lawfully armed, they will view it as a threat while they try to detain you. So you should declare that you're lawfully armed, let them detain you, and then get arrested. Do not resist. Mr. Pretty's decision to resist arrest was a mistake on his part. I'm not saying he deserved all the blame that led to his. That led to his death, but we need to acknowledge that his decision to resist arrest, to get into that scuffle, to fight with ICE agents or Border Patrol agents, rather, and to not declare that he had a firearm was part of the dominoes, many of the dominoes that led to his death. Secondly, a lot of conservatives are making nonsense arguments about the gun, the style of gun, you know, if he was allowed to have a firearm near law enforcement, and a lot of what I'm hearing in law, what I'm seeing is nonsense. You absolutely have a right to legally own a firearm. And possess it near law enforcement. Do not start falling for these anti second Amendment arguments about legal gun ownership. You can have a firearm, but you should declare it. If you are being detained, you should not resist arrest. Those are two important points, but they are separate from the fact that you get to legally own a firearm in this country. Do not fall for anti second amendment arguments right now. What what DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said in response to the shooting but I need is an absolute disgrace. I need to make that point very, very clear. We have no idea what Mr. Pretty's intention was. He was an American citizen who had every legal right to legally own a firearm. He may not have known the law in the municipality pertaining to carrying an id, but that's not why he was shot. What Border Control Chief Greg Bovino has said about him carrying a firearm, what Kristi Noem has said are not making the situation any better. There was a scuffle. He shouldn't have resisted arrest. There was a lot of chaos. He was part of an activist group seeking to cause chaos. That doesn't mean he should have died. He was not pointing the weapon at the officers. His mistake was resisting arrest. His mistake was not declaring he had a firearm. He made mistakes, but those are not being acknowledged. They are trying to gaslight people right now and it's extremely unhelpful, not only to the agents on the ground, but to the agency as a whole while they're discussing whether or not they're going to continue funding Kristi Noem and her very close advisor Corey Lewandowski's decision back back in October to marginalized Todd Lyons and border czar Tom Holman that wanted to focus specifically on criminality and people with final deportation orders has done a lot of damage to the agency. Back in October, according to Fox News, two senior officials described the mood of DHS as intense and combative, with some isolators warning the new approach would erode and blur the lines between ICE and Border Patrol operations. And that's exactly what's happened. I started off with the worst of the worst target, knowing their targets and hitting them. But since Border Patrol came to LA in June, they've lost focus. This is the quote from the Fox News article, going too fast, too hard with limited prioritization. Is it getting numbers? Yes. But at what cost? I think Kristi Noem is partially right for increasing activities within the homeland outside of just criminality, outside of just people filing deportation orders. But it's been a little haphazard. And I think at this point Kristi Noem has made too many mistakes and the stakes are too high. She should step down from her position at this point. The agency is too important. Mass deportations are too important. She's not doing President Trump's administration or the goals of mass deportation any favors with these public statements. It's just the truth. Her choice to smear the reputation of a dead American citizen whose politics I may not agree with is disgraceful. We don't know his attention. He did make mistakes. He did resist arrest. He didn't declare his firearm. There was a heat of the moment. There were a lot of activities on the part of ICE agents. There was someone screaming the word gun, and they mistaken it for the fire, for him being able having a gun and firing at him. That's why he got killed. She's not doing anyone any favors because we can all see the videotape, including herself, including the president. Lastly, and most importantly, the activist left, including politicians like Tim Waltz, have made this moment, this terrible moment, by the way, possible. These agitators are creating a frenzy within the general public, making it very difficult for ICE officers to do their job and waiting for mistakes like this to happen to jump on it. Cam Higby, a independent journalist, infiltrated the Minneapolis signal chat where activists are on the ground communicating about how to stop ice. Allegedly even local police are involved, involved in this effort to stop ICE. Mayors, local DAs, local police chiefs, governors. They are not presidents. They do not have the right to pick and choose which immigration laws they follow. By refusing to follow ICE detainers and working with the president, they are creating the tinderbox and lighting the match. The president cannot, in this moment show the sign of weakness that local anarchists have the ability to push out federal agents from cities. If the signal chat is real and they're able to discover who these local activists are communicating about how to stop federal agents and are making them into making their own activists into martyrs. They need to be stopped by law enforcement. Law enforcement must do anything and everything to stop them where they are carrying out the law. The left is making the situation what it is, and we shouldn't forget that. And to my mostly conservative audience, if you are like me and you're really bothered by these images, I was really bothered by the. By what I saw with the shooting of Mr. Priddy. I mean, I'll just say, last night before bed, I prayed for him. I prayed for the ICE agents out there, prayed for Border Patrol. But I also then took a second look. I took a second look at the images of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who were let into this country by President Joe Biden. And I'm sorry, this country was invaded. It was invaded for four continuous years. Watch those images if you're having a moment saying, maybe we should ramp down mass deportation. Maybe we should back away from that campaign promise. And to my listeners on the left, I understand your outrage. I understand, and I sympathize with a lot of what you're feeling and what you're saying. But we cannot stop mass deportations until all these people are sent back. That's just how it is. You cannot allow an invasion of your country and then turn around and say, well, let's just forget it. Let all those people who broke the law, the millions who broke the law, let them stay. We need smart and decisive action that leads to more mass deportations, and we're getting there. And that's the bigger goal. And if you're angry and you're a progressive and you're even a centrist and you're angry, you need to remember, in this moment, you have every right to legal on a gun. You have every right to legally protest. You have every right to legally make your voices heard. You don't have a right to stop ICE agents doing their job. You don't have. You don't have a legal right to physically assault ICE agents or Border Patrol agents. There is no honor in being a martyr for anarchists. So President Trump needs to make some very important decisions about who leads this agency. Because at the rate that we're going with the negative images that are coming out in the field, Kristi Noem is doing immense damage to the agency, and activists are looking for it. Activists on the left are looking for these moments. It is very important this time to make sure, even if it involves having an insurrection act and sending in the military to stop activists, so ICE agents can do its job, do its job, declare victory and move on. Right? That's the entire goal. Declare victory, move on. ICE has deported thousands of people from Minneapolis alone. I'm sure they're getting very close to their target of how many they want to deport in total. But that should be the moment right now. And hear from all operations should be smart, tactical, decisive, in and out. It shouldn't be. Minneapolis should not be messier than Venezuela. It shouldn't. It should be messier than the. Than the attacks in Iran. And for some reason, our internal law enforcement has become messier than our foreign policy. I don't want to give Marco Rubio one more job, but somebody needs to lead the agency who knows how to lead the agency and win back levels of public support. I hope you're all doing well in this moment. I hope you're all staying warm, I hope you're all staying safe, and I hope at the very least you're all trying to stay sane. That's this mini episode. Please like and subscribe to the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts wherever you get your podcast. And please give me a five star review if you can. Thank you guys. Have a great day. Stay warm.
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