Brian Graduski (2:42)
Welcome back to a numbers game podcast with Brian Graduski. Thank you for coming on this Thursday episode. I am on my way to Kansas. I will be the keynote speaker this weekend at the Bob Dole Dinner for the Kansas Republican Party, which is very exciting. I'm very nervous. I wanted to do a good job and pay tribute to like the legacy of Bob Dole, but talk about the future. But this was, it's very nerve wracking and I'm honored to be invited, but at the same time, I'm not exactly sure why I was invited, but I'm excited. Funny story, Bob Dole running for president. 1996 was the first time I realize that there was an election for president. I was like 9 years old in school and we to learn about it. And I remember going, learning about all the candidates running and going home to my parents and saying, I learned about this election and I want you to vote for Ross Perot. They didn't, they voted for Dole. But I think I might open my speech with saying that I was a pro fan at the age of nine. Anyway, hopefully it goes well and I'll tell you how it goes next week and they don't boom me as part of Bob Dole's revenge for being a you thrust pro supporter. Today's gonna be a unique episode. I have some numbers I want to throw you guys up, but I'm gonna have a non political story and interview that I think you guys would find very fascinating. So first in the political stuff across the pond over at the uk, the labor government finally did an about face this week and did a proper investigation into grooming gangs. Now, for those who don't know, I appeared on the BBC almost 10 years ago saying that there was a, it was a conversation about Trump and you know, I was bringing up the Muslim ban and they were telling how racist it was and all the rest of this and that there's no, you know, Muslim terrorism. And I said, yes, there is. Like you have Muslim grooming gangs from Pakistani men raping white girls in Northern England. The host of the show, the BBC show, they kicked me off the air, said it wasn't happening, that what I said wasn't true, and then apologized to the audience that I had offended listeners for what I had said. I was almost 10 years ago. Well, Baroness Louise Casey has released a 200 page report and found that the Mirpuri Pakistanis from the Kashmir providence were extremely well overrepresented in all data responsible for grooming gangs in the uk. You might think this is one little area of Pakistan. You know, how many people could it be? There are about 1 million Mapori Pakistanis living in the UK. It is the biggest predominant group that come to the UK from Pakistan. Now, in many of the cases, the ethnicity of the perpetrator was never taken because officials feared that they will be labeled as racist. But in areas that it was taken in 323 cases known as Operation Stove Wood, 62% of all groomers were Pakistani, despite the fact that they make up only 3% of the population. Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, basically, our version of DHS put out a list of recommendations. It includes ensuring adults who engage in penetrative sex with children under 16 face the most serious charge of rape instead of lesser charges. They're going to launch a new national criminal operation to oversee the National Crime Agency and tackle grooming gangs. They're going to review the criminal convictions of child sexual exploitation and washing any convictions where the government finds that the victims were criminalized rather than being protected. They're going to make a collection of ethnicity and national data for all suspects of child abuse. They're going to commission research into driven into drivers for group based child sexual exploitation, including the role of social media and cultural factors. And they're going to bring a more rigorous standard for the licensing and regulation of taxi drivers because many of these Pakistani men were taxi drivers luring young girls into their taxis, saying, do you want to come have alcohol or you know, drugs? Which in many poor areas of northern England was very enticing to 14 year old girls that have alcohol. Remember, the drinking ages are a lot lower and the culture on drinking is a lot more open. They would say yes, they would drug them, get them drunk, then drug them and then rape them in a group activity. Okay, some of these ideas are very good and I'm going to give credit to the labor government on at least going this far considering they've been completely opposed to it for decades. Certainly since my comments came out in 2010, they've been notoriously against. Not that because of this may just because they have been against it for years, but what the UK government needs to do is repeal most or parts of the equality act of 2010. This was a law passed by the previous labor government from years ago and it prohibits discrimination based on protected characteristics, including race in employment and service delivery. Police officers as public servants are subject to this law and discriminatory behavior can be deemed as gross misconduct. So police officers were purposely not investigating cases of child rape, child sexual exploitation, when the victim was going with biological evidence, in some cases saying, you can look at me, I have been raped multiple times. They refused to do it because if the grooming gang said this police officer is clearly racist, there would be overwhelming push to have that police officer dismissed from their jobs and that they are the problem, not that the criminals were the problem. And this law is the linchpin behind which all of these police officers were enabled to really do their job in a profound way. You know, J.K. rowling was tweeting like, we need to change the culture of protecting girls. Yes, but you need to undo the law, you crazy liberal. Like, that is what it is. I know, like, the idea of the Equality act sounds wonderful, but the law is creating all these circumstances. And one last thing. Maybe don't bring in a million people from a culture that views women as lesser than. Maybe don't bring in a million people from a culture that thinks child's sexual activities perfectly normal. That women can be beat. That, you know, you could have that women are like, you know, furniture or animals. That is the problem. You are importing a culture that for many people, especially when it is ghettoized because you're bringing in so many people, they, they push. They bring that culture with them. They bring that culture the UK and they view a lot of things like, this is a prize is to sit there and rape a young British woman. So good for the UK government for doing something. But it is outrageous. It took this long. And hopefully if there is someone in the entire UK government left with a brain from either the Reform or the Tory party, they will talk about repealing the Equalities act, if they haven't already. I don't. Maybe they did, but I don't think they did. Okay, that's your number is is for this podcast on the political side. Now I want to get to a passion interest of mine, which is true crime. I know there's a million podcasts on true crime and books and whatever, and we'll get back to politics on Monday. This is not gonna become a true crime podcast, but this episode is special. I am a true crime junkie. I have listened to podcasts, I've read books like A Stranger Beside Me, which is one of my favorite documentaries. You name it. Like, if I'm up at 2:00 in the morning, I'm researching who killed JonBenet Ramsey. This is who I am. It is a sickness. It is a mental illness. I understand it. But I love true crime. So the most talked about trial of the year just ended and it is the Karen Reed trial and it's about the death of John o' Keefe. So most of you have probably maybe heard about this trial or parts of it. I want to just give you the brief facts before going into the interview because it is interesting. On the night of January 28, 2022, Karen Reed and John O' Keefe, who were dating John Okie's a 46 year old Boston police officer where they were out drinking with friends in Canton, Massachusetts, about 20 miles south of Boston. After visiting bars, they were invited to an after party at the home of Brian Albert, another Boston police officer. There was a terrible snowstorm outside, but they, but John insisted on going this after partying. So they drove to the house. Allegedly there was, they saw no lights on in the house. John o' Keefe got out of the car, went to the house around 12:30am to see if there were people inside. According to prosecutors, this is when allegedly Karen Reed, who was intoxicated and angry at him, backed up into him hitting him and leaving him to die in the snow. John O' Keefe's body was discovered at 6am I think he might have been alive, but he was pronounced dead shortly afterwards. Karen Reed was arrested on February 1, 2022 and charged with second degree murder, manslaughter while operating under the influence of alcohol and leaving the scene of a collision causing injury or death. She pleaded not guilty to all charges. Her defense team insisted that this was actually a cover up, insinuating that the police were actually at fault for his death. Witnesses said that Karen came, she did come back to the scene of crime a few hours later, I guess when she had sobered up. And they said that she said that she had hit him and she had left the scene and left him to die. And when she had left the scene at 12:30, she did leave him a lot of angry voicemails because he did not come back to see, to say like oh, you can come in or I'm good or whatever. So Reed's defense team, Karen Reed's defense team led by attorney David Yannetti and Alan Jackson. They argue that o' Keefe was killed inside the Albert's home, possibly beaten and attacked by a dog and dumped outside with Reed being framed as the COVID up for the crime. Their theory was that o' Keefe got out of the car when inside the house. A fight ensued with someone inside the house, either Brian Albert or his brother Colin Albert or Brian Higgins, a federal agent who was also the party. Someone fought with him is the point. They pointed to o' Keefe's arm injuries though the defense did saying that saying because of a witness, an expert witness, Dr. Marie Russell. They suggested that his injuries were not with a car, but they were with dog bites. And the family inside the house had a dog at the time. They had a German shepherd. They said these dog bites at the home were, were showing that there must have been a fight and the dog got involved, which a German shepherd would if their owner was fighting. Incidentally, between the time of the attack and the trial, the very first trial of Karen Reed, the dog was rehomed in that time. So they could never do a investigation where they looked into the dog. A lot of things that were inside that house allegedly went missing or destroyed. There were outside videotapes from across the street that never showed up. There was phones that were destroyed afterwards. At 2:27am Jennifer McCabe, who is married to Mr. McCabe, she looked in her Google searches on her phone as a long to die in cold, suggesting that there was some foreknowledge of, of Mr. O' Keefe's condition, of John O' Keeffe's condition before the body was found. McCabe claimed that it was searched at 6am, 6.20am when Karen was there at the house looking for him. But it was, it was 2:27am they also said that there was key evidence, the key evidence of the whole trial was this broken tail light that Karen Reid's car allegedly had this broken taillight that found at the scene, but it was found days later underneath all the snow. They, they claimed, the defense claimed it was actually planted there and it was not, it wasn't like that she hit him, broke the taillight and then fled. That, that actually was planted there a few days later by people within that Canton PD, Boston PD universe trying to protect, you know, the McCabes. Well, on Wednesday, June 18, after four days of deliberation in the second trial, the first trial was on jury. In the second trial, the jury acquitted Karen Reed of all major charges, finding her only guilty of driving under the influence, which basically, I mean, Karen did say she was drinking right beforehand. So it's not shocking. But all the major things, the murder in the second degree, fleeing the scene of a crime, all of it, she was declared that she was not guilty. This case has deeply divided communities across the country who feel that Reeb was either innocent and wrongfully framed by a power hungry and co opted corrupt police department or that they felt she murdered her boyfriend and that, that she was a cold hearted crazy woman. And then there are other people who feel like she was overcharged, maybe she hit him, but it should have been a manslaughter charge and not, not homicide in the second degree. Remember the prosecution, they didn't just say, oh, they probably hit her. They went for the full jugular, they went for the full, she intentionally hit him. It wasn't an accident. She meant to hit him. She did hit him and then she fled in her drunken state. That's what they accused her of. It's a very, very severe charge. In the middle of this whole trial, Carrion Reed became this lightning rod of controversy and one man was behind the entire groundswell grassroots effort to free her. And his name is Aiden Carney, otherwise known as Turtle Boy. Aiden also has become a lightning rod of controversy. He was charged with witness tampering, or sorry, witness intimidation rather. He said, he said that was an effort to smear him. He's fighting those charges. But hate him or love him, he created a widespread effort to free Cameron Reid and he was successful in doing that. He created a movement from people all over that region and all over the country. They responded to what he was doing. He is coming on this podcast next. The first time after the Karen Reid trial. He's going to give a full interview. I'm so excited. Please stay tuned and we'll be back with Turtle Boy.
