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This is an iHeart podcast. Welcome back to A Numbers Game with Ryan Graduski. Happy Monday. Rise and grind everybody. Hope you're enjoying the beginning of the summer. It has been a wild weekend since Thursday's episode. Trump and Elon had their big beautiful breakup where Trump threatened to cut off all federal contracts to Elon's companies. And Elon accused Trump of being in the Epstein files, a charge that was dismissed by Epstein's former lawyer. Said he asked him about it and Epstein said no, I kind of doubt that he would be in the Epstein file and Biden wouldn't have released it. I'm not going to go this whole episode until the bro. The end of the bromance. But I'll say this. I told my audience for a long time to be skeptical on Elon Musk. From all my sources who know him, he never went into this position with the goal of shrinking the size of government. That was the PR of Doge. There's always been a financial incentive around him being there and federal data incorporating his AI into the federal government. There were reports from the Reuters and the New York Times about how he was trying to do it for the Department of Homeland Security and for the Treasury. Everything else was kind of just a frontal face. And why he's mad about the big beautiful bill isn't just the amount of spending. Even though he's correct about what he's saying when it comes to spending, not about Epstein. I want to make that clear. I will tell my audience one other thing to look out for. There will be intense media scrutiny over Stephen Miller, his wife Katie Miller, and their relationship to Elon. I've spoken to a lot of reporters in the last week. The rumors in D.C. about their close relationship between Katie, Elon and Steven is everywhere is what everyone is talking about and trying to find the truth of the fact that she works for Elon's company. The fact that Elon and Steven have unfollowed each other on social media. I'm telling you among reporters that I have a decent relationship with. This is half of what they're talking about aside from Trump and Elon himself. Also, one of my predictions from the last episode came true. I said that the Senate would change their language over over the 10 year AI moratorium. Instead of it being a strict ban which would have been hurt in the bird rule, it's now going to be a financial incentive where states will receive extra federal funds if they don't regulate AI. And this will hopefully get that's what the Republicans are hoping will get past the bird rule. I personally think that this is very stupid and won't do much because the amount of money they're talking about allegedly offering is fairly negligible as far as state budgets go. Okay, for today's episode, which will be another solo episode, it's just me. I hate to disappoint you guys if you're looking forward to guests. I will have guests coming on later in the week and next week, but I've already lined them up. But right now it's just me. I want to do a two parter one, the first on Wokeism in America and the second on Europe. I asked you guys last episode if you want me to talk more about Europe and I immediately received emails saying yes, I do. So I'm going to you're going to indulge me and I'm going to indulge you. First on America. When the General Social Survey came out last week or the week prior, I did a full episode on it, but I wasn't able to break down the specific demographics on the changing opinions of Wokeism at the time. Before I go any further, let me describe what I'm talking about when I say woke and being woke in the modern sense. Like I'm talking about how liberals make race the central organizing principle of everything. Black people receive lower standardized tests than Asians. The that's racism. More police encounters. That's racism. Indians have weaker hamstring than Africans. That's racism. Everything is racism identity, but specifically race is at the center of their ideology and their governing principle. Now I know that wokeism is considered almost a joke now, something that the left doesn't claim ownership of and the right uses to mock them. But the grasp it had on progressives in America just five years ago is virtually unmatched. Think about this for a second. I I know that pre covered is almost a brain fog and Covid was a brain fog. But in 2019, Ibram x Kendi, one of the premier anti racists in America, wanted a federal department on anti racism and a constitutional amendment that acknowledged anti racism. He said, and I quote, racial inequality is evidence of a racist policy and the different racial groups are equal equals. The amendment would make unconstitutional race inequality over a certain threshold as well as racist ideas by public officials with racist ideas and public officials clearly defined. It would establish a permanently funded Department of Anti Racism compromise of formal trained experts on racism and no political appointees. The doa, the Department of Anti Racism would be responsible for pre clearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won't yield racial inequity, monitoring those policies, investigating private racist policies when racial inequalities surface, and monitoring public officials for expressions of racist ideas. Now, I know that this is a batshit crazy idea. A federal department that guarantees equal outcomes on the basis of race in all levels of government is crazy. But what's even crazier is the fact that Senator Elizabeth Warren and a congresswoman wrote a bill to create a national center for anti Racism with the CDC because they declare racism was a national health crisis. And even wilder, it received 57 Democrat co sponsors, 52 in the House and five in the Senate. That's nuts. Democrats were writing inc anti racism and wokeism until the tires fell off the car. Well, according to a new data from the General Social Survey, that's coming to an end. The data found that support for affirmative action even among white Democrats is down. Among white Democrats, those who strongly favor affirmative action fell by 20 points from plus 35 to plus 15. Democrats have fallen closer to the center when it comes to the idea of affirmative action, although their Republicans are way closer independents than are still on the question of do you want more immigration or less Democrats support for more immigration fell from majority to less than 10%, a complete and total freefall on a core tenant of wokeism. Because if you feel whiteness is inherently evil, then you support policies to make our country less white for the sake of making our country less white. Among white voters under 30, the numbers are even more startling. Those who said that we should let in more immigrants fell in half from 2021. To those who said differences in outcome are due to discrimination fell from nearly 70% to 40%. Those who said we spend too little on blacks fell from over 60% to 38%. And those who said the government is obligated to give special treatment to blacks fell from nearly 30% to 10%. The most dramatic decline came specifically from white men under the age of 40 NFL by nearly 20 points from 60 to 41 on the idea of affirmative action. Women under 40 also declined, but it was very small. It was much smaller than men. Non white, non black Americans. That's what they labeled as others, but I'm assuming they mean Hispanic, Asians and Native Americans fell from 62% to 45%. This is a startling decline among the most progressive generation in history and probably aligns with why an increasing number of them, especially white men 18 to 21, through their support behind President Trump. Now, it's not all positive news. There is a spike among Americans Specifically young female Americans who say they're not proud to be an American. For the very first time, a majority of young women fell into that category. The most privileged and affluent group in history are the ones who don't find pride in this country. You cannot make it up. Those are the dramatic changes though among Wokeism and it will absolutely continue to affect our polic as politicians like aoc, like Ilan Omar, like Bernie Sanders, like the Progressive Caucus, sit there and double down on race based identity politics. It's all they really have. They can't give it up because those who still believe in it really believe in it and they make up their donor class and a big percentage of their voter class. And they live in heavily cosmopolitan enclaves like in Astoria, Queens, where AOC and a lot of the progressive left really thrive. So I don't think you'll see the Democratic Party really run away from it. But voters, even those who are still Democrats, have, it's just going to be the loudest voices left in the room still believing in it. Next up, I want to talk about England. Coming up right after these messages. We're back. And a bombshell report came out just a few days ago that didn't make much news in the United States, but it was front and center in the U.K. according to a report by Professor Matt Goodman of Buckingham University. He was on this podcast just two weeks ago. The white native majority of Great Britain will be a minority by 2063. Now I know if you're a geriatric millennial like myself, you think that's 63 years from now because we're kind of always under the premise and the construct that 1990 was 10 years ago, but it's not the date. That British natives will be a minority in their own homeland is 39 years away. For Brits born this year, they will be minority in their own country among their age group in just 25 years. Further projections are that by 2100, just one in three people living in the UK will be white British and the foreign born population will be an outright majority by 2079 in England, 81 in Wales, 2093 in Scotland, and then much, much later, Northern Ireland. Possibly not for another 100 years. But the Muslim population will swelter from 7% today to 25 by the end of the century. Now I know that any implications that this is a bad thing or any kind of notion that this is not wonderful is deemed racist and we can't talk about it, blah, blah, blah. I've already been canceled for making A beeper joke. So I don't care. This kind of demographic change in such a rapid pace creates a fundamental problem both domestically for the British and internationally as a member of NATO and close ally of the United States. Let's start with the second part first. In 2015, a story broke that more British Muslims had left the country to join ISIS in their fight for the Caliphate, then joined Her Majesty's army, the British Army. Muslims in the UK made a choice when it came to do they side more with Western civilization or the most heinous acts of barbarism committed in modern times. And Western civilization did not went out. The British military has been plagued by recruiting issues, and it's gotten so bad that they're asking foreign nationals in Kenya, India, Canada, Canada, which is more looking more and more like India every day, and Fiji to join the army to make up for Brits not wanting to fight for Her Maj. His Majesty. Now they cannot convince their own young people to serve in their armed forces. So they're asking those around the globe who are in the Commonwealth that live in the UK even though they're not citizens, they have no connection to that country. They have no connection to the heritage or to the crown to do the fighting for them as their country diversifies and imports more cultures. Hostile Western civilization, hostile United States and some of our allies like Israel and am more in line with some of our enemies. What does that say about our alliance? How much harder will it be to secure our own border when the UK can easily produce a thousand, maybe 2,000 homegrown terrorists in their Muslim ghettos? Neocons and libtards have this notion that every time there's a global conflict, that the United States can get this band of European allies from World War II back together and bring peace in the world. You hear about it on like the Kara Swisher podcast with that guy, the university professor for nyu. They always talk about this notion that we'll just get the Western allies back together and we'll be able to fight Russia and China and whatever problems there are in the Middle East. But what happens when those allies soldiers have no ties to that thinking? They believe Winston Churchill was a villain, not a hero, as many Indian Brits do. This delusion on the part of neoconservatives that mass immigration, especially from Muslim majority countries, will not alter European countries willingness to engage in military action when their populations have no connection or historical ties is delusional. Let's get back more to the domestic part of the problem. What does it mean to be English. Can you have an England where the ancestral people have had their ability to decide their fate and the fate of their countrymen taken from them? When you have no unifying culture, history, religion, heroes, language in many cases, does sharing a border make countrymen? I. I don't believe so. What is the fate of the British monarchy? Possibly the most identical part of being British. The British nation today is they have a king and queen. Will that survive as the subjects no longer look to them as, you know, the divine leaders of, of their nation as the most positively viewed figures, even though they're not political political figures in their country. This is what has caused the UK to go from a high trust society to a lot of society in the course of two decades. In 2019, the Migration Observatory at the O University reviewed evidence on immigration and social cohesion in the uk. They found a modest negative correlation between diversity and trust at the neighborhood level. And that was when Muslim population in the country was about 5% and the non white population was under 25%. Now take it and expand it. Now take it and double it. It's not that the UK couldn't have any immigration, but their leaders have decided to go from a 91% white British nation to a 33% white British nation in 99 years. This is the singular reason that the rise of national populism in the UK has happened. This is why the most stable Western democracy for the past millennia is seeing a populist backlash and the rise of Nigel Farage's reform UK party. The British public have essentially two elections to overturn, not just slow down, overturn the effects of mass migration and by the means of mass deportation by remitigation the way the Sweden and Denmark are trying to do it now. That's not a lot of time. And the type of demographic shift is, is especially volatile in a nation that is steeped with white guilt and anti colonialism and CRT and equity communism as the UK is. And there's no telling if an institutions, if these institutions that hold that country together will continue to hold it as they come apart in, in their identity, in their shared bonds. It's not great by the way, to be a former member of a majority that is still the economic dominant minority in a nation that changes so quickly in their demographics. Look no further to the whites of the Congo and Zimbabwe and South Africa, or the ethnic Chinese in Vietnam or Malaysia or Indonesia, or the Indian Indians in Ethiopia and Uganda. None of them had a happy ending. It's just a warning and it's just a sign of the change to come. Politics and Culture in our nations we are not living in ponds, we're living in ever changing rivers that are moving constantly that you cannot go back to. And the decision to have mass migration on such a level means that you will never have the the culture and the country that we know as England will not be the one. In just a few decades, our children, our grandchildren, will look at videos of Princess Diana's funeral and not recognize the country mourning for their princess. Will not understand why the King and Queen meant something, will not understand the unity and the bond or why even the commemoration of things like D Day not understand the commemoration and the unity that our our our ally nations fought together in World War II. All of that will be lost because of mass demographic transformation. A decision, by the way, that was made by the elites, made by the politicians, made by the donor class. It was not made by the people. And every time the people have asked for it to be reversed, the politicians have said no. It's a stark warning, but one that needs to be said. Now, before we end this podcast, I want to go to questions from my audience in the Ask Me Anything segment. I bunch of questions. I'll be doing more than one for the very first time. Stick around. We'll be right back with that. We're back with the Ask Me Anything segment of this podcast. If you want to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, please email me. Ryan numbers game podcast.com that's Ryan@Numbers plural numbers game podcast.com I read all your emails. I love getting them. I try to respond to as many as I possibly can, so keep them coming. If you have an idea for the podcast or question you want me to answer, answer on air. The other day I tweeted if people had questions. So I'm actually going to answer questions from Twitter. So the first question comes from a guy named Tron and he says, if Henry Cular, he is a congressman from South Texas, is found guilty of in his trial in September and resigns in Texas 28, who would be the best candidate for either party in a special election and also who will be favored to win R or D? This is a great question. Henry Kular is a Democrat from South Texas in a district that is rapidly becoming more Republican. It is a lot of Tahanos who have left the party. It's part of that South Texas migration. I don't know who the best Republican would be because I don't know the district especially well, but it is one of the it is probably the fastest moving Republican district in the country. My bet is Henry Cular will be the last Democrat to hold the election. Okay, next question is from Jim. Will one of the impacts of the federal and federal and state level efforts to reduce spending just be an increase on taxation at the local, city, county level to make up the difference? I'm quite literally living at the, in the moment attempting to stop a proposal to increase in an R +30 district. No, I don't think so. Because most state, most federal taxes are not paid for by local taxes. Right. So any, when a state or municipality increase, let's even say sales tax or property tax, it usually goes to local schools, firefighters, cops. It doesn't usually go to the federal government. So I don't believe that that's how they will pay for it. But what I will say is when you're going to look for tax increases as a possibility to kind of get themselves out of it. One, the idea of a millionaires tax I think is actually really on the table even for a number of Republicans. I think that that's not out of the question for people who make more than $5 million a year because the donor base of democrats who make $5 million a year, far out, is outside the number of Republicans. It's, you know, Wall street people, they're mostly Democrats. Hollywood actors, tech entrepreneurs, these are all Democrats voter base. And I think that as the Republican Party is more populous and is further away from like the Reaganomics view of the economy, that is absolutely going to be on the table. But I don't see it for local or municipality elections. So anyway, that's, that's, that's what I think that. Okay, pa loyalist writes, what happens if Vance loses in 2028 and MAGA is not showing up at the polls? So I, this is a wonderful question. Will MAGA show up in a post Trump election? I kind of think so. Only because, yes, they do love Trump. But if Trump anoints a successor who is energetic and populous on the issue, they will know there'll be no man like Donald Trump ever again. We will not see the likes of him again. He is uniquely funny, he's uniquely energetic, he speaks in a brash way. There will never be anyone like Donald Trump again. I, I'm not going to make the comparison. They will be. But I do think that the base of the party is changing enough that they will show up for the successor. But what happens if they, if they lose? I don't know. But given that working class voters of all ethnicities are becoming more and more Republican and they do show up in presidential elections. I'm not sure that's a question I'm gonna have to worry about. Last question. I believe so many members of Congress have tied their future to President Trump. Mine. Rep. Fine. He's a con new congressman from Florida. Liter base his entire campaign on Trump's endorsement. What is the potential impact of those politicians if there's a true split between Elon and Trump supporters? I don't think that this is real because I don't think there's any genuine Elon supporters. I think there are people interested in him as a man and as a businessman, but not as a politician. They may agree with his question over spending and they may say he has a point and he probably does have a point. But I think that the I think it's a party of Trump. I think the bigger question is what happens to those people and what happens to the Trump Trump economy? The people who sell access to Trump, the people who sell commemorative memorabilia on Trump, the people who sell the notion that they speak Trumpism when there's no Trump? What happens to the entire grifter economy that lives outside mar a lago 24 hours a day post Trump? There are a million of those people. That's really the question. And I think a lot of them don't survive and the ones who don't find themselves in good standing with whomever the successor is will become desperate and will probably back a primary challenger that will give them and grant them access. I can tell you guys, I heard a story last year that a number of these well known maga I love Trump people who really serve no purpose aside from saying that they love Trump on social media and trying to grift off of it, that they were hoping Carrie Lake would win her Senate race in 2024 so they could run her for president in 2028 because they know that she would be granting them the access that they have from Trump. Didn't really work out and I don't think she's going to run. But it goes to show that they are willing to do anything to be part of the conversation and get access. That's how hungry this grifter community is. It shouldn't be lost on anybody. Anyway, those are my questions. I had one more actually. Do we win New Jersey in the fall in the governor's race? I don't know. There's not a lot of general election polling out there. I think Republicans are still behind but think it's much more open and the possibility of it happening is very, very real. So I will have to wait to see more polling and more data to sit there and show that. But Republican registration, Republican voter turnout is very high. If independents break heavily enough with Republicans like they did last time, given that there's all these new Republicans, I think Republicans can win. But it's a lot of ifs in that sentence for it to happen. Anyway, thank you again for listening to this Monday's episode. We'll be back on Thursday. Please like and subscribe to this podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Apple podcast Wherever you get your podcast, it's so important to like and Subs brings listeners on each and every single week. And if you're feeling generous, a five star review goes a very, very long way. 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Podcast Title: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode Title: It's a Numbers Game: The Big, Beautiful Breakup & Democrats Rethink Woke
Release Date: June 9, 2025
Host: Ryan Graduski
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, host Ryan Graduski delves into significant political developments, including the dramatic fallout between former President Donald Trump and tech mogul Elon Musk, as well as a shifting landscape within the Democratic Party regarding "wokeism." Graduski also explores alarming demographic changes in Europe and engages with listener questions in an extended "Ask Me Anything" segment.
Key Points:
Breaking Association: The episode opens with the recent "big beautiful breakup" between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Trump's threat to sever all federal contracts with Musk's companies marks a significant fallout.
Allegations and Counterclaims: Musk has accused Trump of being listed in the Epstein files—a claim swiftly dismissed by Epstein's former lawyer. Graduski highlights the dismissive reaction, stating, “...the charge that was dismissed by Epstein's former lawyer” (02:15).
Media Scrutiny: There's anticipation of increased media focus on Stephen Miller and his wife Katie’s ties to Elon Musk, considering their recent actions on social media and professional affiliations.
Policy Implications: Graduski predicts changes in Senate language regarding a proposed 10-year AI moratorium, shifting from a strict ban to financial incentives for states that refrain from regulating AI. He remarks, “I personally think that this is very stupid and won't do much...” (14:50).
Notable Quotes:
Key Points:
Definition of Wokeism: Graduski defines "woke" as a modern liberal ideology where race is the central organizing principle, often leading to policies perceived as racially biased.
Shift in Democratic Support: Recent data from the General Social Survey indicates a significant decline in support for affirmative action among white Democrats, dropping by 20 points (25:10). This trend suggests a move towards the political center within the party.
Youth Demographics: Among white voters under 30, support for policies like immigration and affirmative action has halved since 2021, reflecting a generational shift away from traditional woke policies.
Challenges for the Democratic Party: Despite these shifts, progressive figures like AOC and Ilhan Omar continue to champion race-based identity politics, maintaining influence within specific voter bases and urban enclaves.
Notable Quotes:
Key Points:
Future Minority Status: Professor Matt Goodman's report warns that by 2063, the white native majority in Great Britain will become a minority. For those born in 2025, this shift could occur within 25 years (38:20).
Implications for National Identity: Graduski discusses the challenges this demographic change poses to British national identity, including potential strains on the monarchy and social cohesion.
Military Recruitment Issues: The British Army's difficulties in recruiting native soldiers have led to reliance on foreign nationals, raising concerns about loyalty and cultural integration within the military.
Rise of National Populism: The demographic transformation has fueled the rise of populist movements like Nigel Farage's Reform UK party, as traditional political structures struggle to adapt.
Notable Quotes:
Key Points:
Special Elections and Political Shifts: Listeners inquire about potential candidates in Texas if Congressman Henry Kular resigns. Graduski speculates that Republicans might dominate the rapidly shifting district (56:00).
Taxation and Government Spending: Questions about the impact of federal and state spending cuts on local taxation reveal Graduski's belief that significant local tax increases are unlikely, though a millionaires tax could gain traction among Republicans (58:30).
MAGA Movement Future: Discussing the potential future of the MAGA movement post-Trump, Graduski remains skeptical about finding a successor with Trump's unique appeal but believes the base will persist (1:02:45).
Impact of Political Grifters: Queries about politicians tied to Trump highlight concerns about the sustainability of support networks if the Trump-Elon split solidifies. Graduski warns of a "grifter economy" struggling without Trump's influence (1:08:20).
New Jersey Governor's Race: Speculation about the upcoming gubernatorial race in New Jersey shows Graduski cautiously optimistic about a Republican win, hinging on voter turnout and independent support (1:12:10).
Notable Quotes:
Ryan Graduski's comprehensive analysis in this episode sheds light on pivotal political dynamics shaping both American and European landscapes. From high-profile breakups and ideological shifts within major political parties to profound demographic changes affecting national identities, the episode underscores a period of significant transformation. The engaging "Ask Me Anything" segment further enriches the discussion, providing listeners with nuanced insights into the evolving political terrain.
Notable Overall Quote: “Politics and Culture in our nations we are not living in ponds, we're living in ever changing rivers that are moving constantly that you cannot go back to.” (54:50)
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