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Ryan Graduski
Welcome back to A Numbers Game with Ryan Graduski. Thank you all for being here. Again, thank you for everyone who is subscribed to my YouTube channel. It means so much to me. I've been trying to put work in to make sure that there's new graphs and interesting data up there and uploading all my old interviews. So check out on me on A Numbers Game with ryan Grusky on YouTube. And please like and press the subscribe button so you never miss a single episode. Anyway, before I get to today's episode, I need to tell my listeners something because you guys who listen this podcast a lot know that I am not a sports guy. I don't watch sports very often. So last night I went to a bar just to have some food and a drink and, you know, kind of crystal out the weekends. And a channel called ESPN News was on. Now, I thought that that was just espn. So I'm looking around. I have something called Papa Shot Men's Championship, which is that game at Dave and Busters that you play standing up by yourself, throwing a basketball hoop. And, like, the craziest thing was, was they had sponsors. People are making money off of this. And I guess there was a prize. If you're in the championship, it's a game at Dave and Busters. Then I'm finishing dinner. I look up again, they have championship men's pillow fight league. I need to make a new career for myself. I made all the wrong choices in my life. If you could make money from doing pillow fighting against other men for three minutes, if these people make six figures, I am going to scream into the, you know, into a bag somewhere, because this is nuts. I just. I was very. I was interested. Then I was, you know, wanting to give up on humanity, that people were watching us. And then I was making questions of my own career choices in life because I can't imagine the fact that they make more than I do when I work seven days a week and they have pillow fights for nine minutes. I'm not joking. I'm. It's going to be a dark moment in the life of Ryan Graduski, I'll tell you that. Anyway, okay. So sorry to go into the pill if I think I want to sit there and talk a little bit more. Breakdown on the data from last week's elections about the Democrats victory. I wrote an article in the American Conservative magazine and I got a little backlash or commentary on social media. But I want to really push what I think. I still think New Jersey is as a swing state in the making. I know that seems like no, Ryan, we should have blowout loss or blowout when. If you're a Democrat, here's why. And I'm going to put a big emphasis on voter registration. Now. Do you remember what happened after 2016? After the 2016 election? Remember all the women wearing pink hats and the constant comments of the wall was closing in and Trump needed the 25th amendment and he was losing his mind and he was impeached twice that time in America, there was a huge surge of support for Democrats, especially in New Jersey. From 2016 to 2020, New Jersey registered 450,000 new Democrats compared to only 233,000 new Republicans. Right. So big advantage. Democrat registration voter Advantage grew from 862,000 1,079,000 in just four years. Trump being president was great for Democrats during that time. In the four years that followed 2020, Democrats added only 10,778 new voters, while Republicans added 184,000. Now we're almost done with year one, the first full year of Trump's presidency in the second term. And that energy that you would expect to go back towards Democrats, that was there. The first term hasn't metastasized in this year. Republicans added 44,000 new voters in New Jersey while Democrats lost 9,000. Democrat voter advantage in New Jersey today is smaller than it was before Trump took the White House in 2016. Right. So all that momentum that Democrats have built during that first Trump term is completely gone. That huge advantage that they were going to have to make the state even bluer and bluer and bluer. A big part of the win from last Tuesday was because Democrats still have that voter advantage. Right. They ginned up their base. Voter participation was well over 50% among everybody, and that's a 10 point increase from 2021. But among Democrats, it's substantially higher. Right. Republicans did do a decent job at turning out their own base, but Democrats not only matched them, but they exceeded them. And remember, even though it's trending in Republican direction, There's just still 850 voters to contend with. We're not there yet, but I think we're getting there. And a lot has been made over the conversation of Latinos. Right. Latinos that showed up for Trump. Trump swung Latinos in his direction, northern New Jersey. And then they swung back, meaning the whole Trump Latino thing is over and they're going to be just basic Democrats again. I broke down the numbers on this and this is why I also disagree. I don't think that this is actual accurate portrayal of what's really happening. First, when you look at the governor's elections, the last three 2017, 2021 and 2025, Republicans have seen their level of support in Latino majority towns increase at a faster rate than Democrats. Right. Some, some Latino towns, not all of them, but like Passaic County, New Jersey, which is one of the bigger Latino majority towns, more new Republicans people voted Republicans than new people voted for Democrats. Republicans are increasing in the raw turnout. Even when you consider that in 2017 and in 2025 it was Democratic landslides were where the Democratic candidate basically got the same percentage of the vote in Passaic. In North Bergen and East New York, Republicans raw vote is increasing at a faster rate than even Democrats. And when you compare how Republicans perform in all those Hispanic places in 2017 compared to Democrats, when you, when you say there's a, they're, they're Both won by 14 points, look at how they did as a whole, they're about five to six points better in Latino majority towns in northern New Jersey from 2017 to, to 2025. So the state numbers, overall numbers are the same. Latino towns are moving to the right. The media is running around sitting there and saying, oh, this is all part of a backlash over Trump's immigration policy. Right? It's immigration, immigration, immigration. Latinos are angry. There are abuelas being, you know, deported or whatever they're saying, and that might be part of it. Right. I'm willing to concede that there's probably a lot of Latinos who are angry over immigration, but it's just one little piece of data because there's. I want to give, I want to look at Chitarelli's performance not only among Latinos but among working class whites from 2021. Right. There are four towns I looked at called South Amboy, South River Borough, Manville Borough and Kaiport Borough. They are white working class towns. When you compare how Cittarelli did in 2025 versus how he did in 2021, 1 Chitterelli went down anywhere between 15 points in the, in the case of kaiport Borough to 30 points in the case of Manville Borough. Right. Chitarelli lost so much support among white working class voters. Now look at the Latino areas, Perth Amboy, West New York, Pasaic, Gutenberg, North Bergen, Prospect Park. They were mixed, right? In places like Perth Amboy. Citarelli lost about 7 point support in Prospect Park. He lost about 14 points support in Passaic, in Guttenberg, in North Bergen. He gained from where he was in 2017. He didn't lose. So it makes you sit there and say, why are, why are Hispanics and white working class people, why are they coming at a crossroads right where they're voting more similarly, even though obviously whites without a college degree are voting much more to the right. But when one is swinging, the other one swinging as well, right in the same direction, what is happening? I don't believe the primary motivating fact was immigration. I think it was the economy. And I have a little bit more evidence to sit there and say this. The Pollster Unidos, which the Latino pollster, the media loves to cite them, loves talking with them. They're not a very accurate pollster. They're never held accountable for that. But I will. I'm going to cite them because it's all we have, but take it with a grain of salt. But they're a Democrat leaning pollster and they still said, when they asked Latinos what is the top five issues going into this election, they said affordability and the cost of living, health care, jobs in the economy, housing, and then gun violence. It wasn't immigration. Immigration did not make the top five among any of these Latino voters being polled in all these big important swing states right now is a weak economy. Right? Working class people are feeling it. They're maxing out their credit cards. It is tough. Prices did not go down after Biden's inflation. Inflation went down, but prices did it. And people are still feeling, feeling it. You know, four years later, three years later, since COVID That's just a reality. That's just a function of how it's how it's going. And they wanted Trump to have like a magic wand or a band aid and he. It couldn't, right? So now they're angry at the Republicans, they're angry at the Trump administration, they'll be angry at the next Democrat, the next Republican, whatever. If this continues. Something has to happen. But that anxiety among working class people, both Latino and white, and the overall increase in activist Democrats, people go to the no Kings rally who show up at those kinds of things to go vote at a higher rate than the average Republican is what punished Republicans because they were out to punish Trump. The fundamentals of New Jersey, as I see it, as I believe it says it's going to still be a swing state, though I really do believe that new voters are picking the GOP over the Democrats. And it's completely organic. There's no huge, you know, Republican Party actively registering people. This has been a trend on their own. They know the Democratic Party isn't working for working class people. Even if they were angry in the moment they voted Republican. Growth even in Latino neighborhoods is up from 2021 and it's way up from 2017. We will see if things change in 2026. But as of now, the trend lines in New Jersey to me seem very, very straightforward. Now there's a lot of conversations happening online about a generational divide, a generational splinter among Republicans. I know, I know it's a, that was a harsh transition enough about New Jersey. I believe it's the swing. Stay in the future. Let me bring up what I want to talk about for the rest of this episode, which is this generational divide online. There's a lot of conversation that younger Gen Z Republicans are they're, you know, they're tougher than their parents on certain positions and that they are especially more nationalist, right? They are less supportive of unrestricted free trade. They are less supportive of immigration. They want more immigration restrictions. They are just more like Donald Trump and the party that he built. My guest on today's episode has been making a lot of attention when it comes to, you know, breaking off from I guess the political establishment of yesteryear, the political thought of his parents generation. And that is Nail and Haley, the son of former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. He is so interesting. He has got a wild take on many, many things and he will be up.
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Ryan Graduski
Nayland Haley became a public figure during his mom Nikki Haley's run for the White House, and he's been stepping out on his own and getting a lot of attention because he's quote unquote, a radical. Nayland, thank you for being on this podcast. I appreciate it.
Nayland Haley
Thanks for having me, Ryan.
Ryan Graduski
So Nayland, I want to ask you first a couple basic questions. Do you remember a time in your life before, like your mom was a politician?
Nayland Haley
Yeah, I remember it pretty well. I think things started to change was when she won and I was in third grade. But before that it was just a very simple life. My mom was an accountant, my dad was in the military and we lived the very typical suburban family life. And then once she won, my life changed and was never the same in.
Ryan Graduski
A good way or bad way.
Nayland Haley
And I mean in some ways it's Both. I like to think of it as more optimistic than negative. I mean, there's definitely some elements, such as my life being so public, I would prefer it to be more private. But in a lot of ways, I got to experience a lot of cool things, meet a lot of cool people, see a lot of the state. So I value a lot of that as well.
Ryan Graduski
I think people like to imagine, for those who don't have, like, a politician parent, like to imagine, like, they come home at the dinner table, and they're like, you'll never believe what the budget was like today. Like, you know, like, not at all. Not at all. Like that at all.
Nayland Haley
And it's. It's like, we don't talk about politics at all. Like, it's. It's very. The reason why people think that is because they only know Nikki Haley. They don't know my mom, and those two things are the same person. But to me, it's mom. To everyone else, it's Nikki Haley. So they can't rationalize her being just a mom. And so whether it's with my family or even my friends, like, my friends know nothing about politics. And that's not on accident, because that's why they're my friends. I don't want friends that know everything about politics.
Ryan Graduski
My friends don't even know my life. No, I know. I mean, I work in it. I don't know what I do. What. When did you know, like, your mom was famous? The last question, your mom just want to know, like, when did you. When did you realize, like, your mom was famous? I asked people this question a lot.
Nayland Haley
Yeah. I think when she was running, it was the primary, and started to pick up where she was doing. Well, you started to see her signs everywhere. People started to stop her at the grocery store. I think that was when I noticed that something was different.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah.
Nayland Haley
Was about probably second, third grade.
Ryan Graduski
Well, I talked to my buddy Megan McCain, ahead of this interview, because obviously her dad, John McCain, and I was just like, what was it like? You know, talking to her about her. And she's like, my dad always said to me, be yourself. Like, don't worry. I'm not gonna make you believe what I believe. I imagine your mom. It was a lot of the same things.
Nayland Haley
Yeah. I mean, again, we never really talked about politics, so. And they always encouraged me to think for myself. And. And that's the thing is, like, a lot of people can't seem to understand. It's like, well, I can't believe you have different views than your mom. Well, it's like, do you have the same views as your mom? And they'll say no. So I just tell them, why would I be any different? I'm from a different generation. We have different problems. So therefore I have different solutions.
Ryan Graduski
Well, I want to talk to your generation because you people pay a lot of attention to you, obviously because of familial reasons, but you have interesting takes, which is why they stay paying attention to you. You know, I think you talk a lot about your own life experiences, that of friends of yours struggling to find a job, struggling to be able to get a house one day, even for yourself. What about today for Gen Z is especially hard? That has changed a lot of their politics.
Nayland Haley
I definitely think it's a mixture of economic and cultural changes. I think we've seen it in just such a short period of time. The economy mainly is causing a lot of frustration when people don't work. When people aren't getting paid, they get frustrated. And they're right to be frustrated because they're not doing anything wrong. It'd be one thing if they were lazy, not getting their education, not willing to put in the work. But Gen Z in some ways has a problem with work ethic. But mostly when they want to work, they will and they're good at it. So when, when they have the opportunity to try and make something of themselves and they're not even getting a chance to start, that's when they get angry and they've every right to be.
Ryan Graduski
Does you. Do you feel like your generation. Well, you and your generation, I guess, is not a spokesperson, but someone dealing with it, that they have like sort of animus towards baby boomers. Like you feel like they screwed.
Nayland Haley
Yeah, I absolutely do. I absolutely do. Because they inherited everything. They inherited something that was great and they turned it into something that was terrible for us. They were. I mean, you think about what a lot of boomers had. A lot of them were able to afford a home, afford two cars, send their kids to school off of just one salary. Back then, the mom didn't even work. They were able to have all those things and it was the golden age for them. Everything was affordable. A lot of people had a job. I'm not saying it was like that for everyone, but by and large it was very simple, easy, and it worked. And now we have things where people don't have jobs. Crime is out of control, things don't work. And so people were frustrated that something that was inherited to that generation is now being turned upside down because of those boomer policies.
Ryan Graduski
What would you say if somebody pushed back and said, well, boomers had to, depending how old they are, they had to serve in Vietnam or be drafted, that they had, that they had less opportunity, less, you know, technology and availability towards luxury items than you do, that they're cheaper now? What would you say to them like that?
Nayland Haley
I mean, I would say that it's good that they served in wars. I think that's great. But I mean, it doesn't change the fact that they have bad policies. And there are a lot of the reasons why we have economic struggles, why we have too much immigration. A lot of the problems that we see are boomers just not doing what they're supposed to do. They have what they had, they changed it and our generation's feeling it now.
Ryan Graduski
When I want to talk about immigration, because you talk about that a lot, something I've talked about a lot, it was definitely a red pilling issue for me. What, what do you say to people who sit there and say, and I've seen people say this to you on Twitter, so that's why I'm asking. But people have sat there and said to you, nayland, your grandparents are Indian immigrants. How could you be against immigration?
Nayland Haley
Yeah, that's stupid. It's stupid because one, it's not 1969. Everyone can look around and see that it's a very different country, that we have a very different set of circumstances. It is rational to then adapt and change those policies. It's also stupid because I'm not loyal to my grandparents way of thinking or what they did. Just like you aren't. Just like they aren't. If a lot of us believed in the same things our grandparents did, then we would have a different country. But no one believes in what their grandparents do or think. Very few dollars. So why would I then accept that when they had a different upbringing, a different way of life than I do? It doesn't make sense.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah. So what you're saying is you can respect your grandparents were our people, but we can't have a 21st century economy with a 20th century immigration system because that's when our immigration was created. It was created over a half a century ago. It's not for a high tech, high skilled population.
Nayland Haley
Right. It's not sustainable and it's irresponsible to have it right now, even the legal immigration. And it's because we have an economy that's fragile. We AI taking a lot of jobs and we have companies not hiring. So why would we import more workers when we already have that Struggle.
Ryan Graduski
And I think that what people. People are realizing it now, I feel like more than ever. But they didn't before the New York City election. They're like, oh, some people we import really do support socialism and we are importing the third world. And I mean, I would go back to 2016's primary, where Ted Cruz literally said, good immigration, legal immigration, good, illegal immigration, bad. He was the me.
Nayland Haley
Right. And it's more so like they're not. They're just. Oh, they're supporting socialism and leftist policies. They're not even identifying as American, a lot of them. And I think we started to see around the Obama years was when we started to see immigrants come in and they said, you don't need to change anything. You're good the way you are. You don't have to assimilate, you don't have to do this or that. But what it does is it loses our very identity as what we are as America. If the people coming in don't see themselves as Americans, we're essentially just a globalist entity. Not even a country, not with a specific identity, a culture or anything, a language, religion. We're just a globalist entity. And that's not what I want to be. And I never want it to become that.
Ryan Graduski
Yes.
Nayland Haley
And that's why I want to stop immigration, both illegal and legal. It's irresponsible.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah. Talk to me about the. Because this is something I kind of don't even understand. I'm like 15 years older than you. Like, what is it with women in Gen Z? Why are they so far left?
Nayland Haley
I think, I think I would say. I would be hesitant to say that they're like that. I know a majority are, but I wouldn't say it's as much as people think. I think a lot of it has to do with the Internet. The Internet shapes the way a lot of Gen Z thinks. And if you have a for you pager on TikTok or Instagram, all you have to do is put your gender in there. If you put no other information than just your gender, the algorithm will then feed you complete opposite stuff. And this is what a lot of these companies do. What a lot of foreign governments do is they want to create a divide. And so I have been saying for years, the future of divide and division in America likely isn't going to be race or income or a lot of stuff. It's going to be gender, which is specifically a problem because we need each other, we need women, and women need men. It's just the truth.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah. As someone who's a millennial, I feel like one of the biggest lies that was told to women of my generation, and I have a lot of friends in their late 30s right now, was like, you have all the time in the world to have kids. All the time in the world to start a family. And I know women in my late 30s who are like scrambling to find a husband. They are like, this is my last chance. I need to get a baby immediately. And it's, it's hard to sit there and see these people like this. I really hope that women in your generation don't kind of fall for the same thing. I mean, there is. Biology is real and time is real and there's no other way about it. What about young men in your generation? Are they. Because there's like, there seems to be, you know, the Harry Simpsons of the world. And then there's the.
Nayland Haley
He's not real, by the way. There's not a real person. Views aren't real. Completely paid. Not real.
Ryan Graduski
Because he does have consulting fees and stuff like that. Right?
Nayland Haley
Yeah.
Ryan Graduski
Okay.
Nayland Haley
I mean, it's all, well, what was your political evolution?
Ryan Graduski
Was there a book or experience that you had that made me like sit there and say, like, oh, I believe in these things this way.
Nayland Haley
I would say I feel like I was very typical MAGA Republican for a lot of high school. But I would say it wasn't until late junior year where I feel like I started to think outside of that, particularly with immigration, particularly with maybe some of our relations with other governments and foreign policy being, you know, not so interventionist. I think I would say that was late junior year of high school.
Ryan Graduski
Was it like YouTube videos or was it.
Nayland Haley
No, it wasn't anything that happened. I think I just started to research more. I started to think more. I started to not just accept what I was given on the Internet and by, you know, Con Inc. You know, I wanted to think for myself.
Ryan Graduski
Okay, if you were, if you were. If someone, a parent was to say, hey, Neil and I have a 15 year old, what should I point them to that made, made you like this? What would it be?
Nayland Haley
I don't know where they should go because I just hate all media. I really do. The media, they're the worst people in the world. The biggest enemy to the American people. It's not Iran, it's not China, it's not Russia. It's not even the Democrats. It's the media. They're the worst. They're vultures, they're blood sucking leeches. All they do is just cause division and chaos in America. They do that because that's how they get money and ratings. They have no loyalty to a country, to an ideology, to a people, only their money and their ratings, which come from chaos and division. They don't care about telling the truth. They want to make the story, not tell it. So I don't know where to go because I hate all of them.
Ryan Graduski
Okay, well, it's not as helpful as I thought it would be. The last question.
Nayland Haley
Now, you know the media sucks and everyone knows that.
Ryan Graduski
Well, I've worked in the media. I worked with Bill Crystal as a Washington examiner. That was in 2016. That was a rough experience. Last question. If you were to get Vice President Vance or President Trump in a room and say like these are the three things or the two things that you need to focus on for my generations heading to the midterms and they're like, this is what we need. What would it be that you guys need?
Nayland Haley
I would say the in terms of what they need to do, I would say in H1B visas, stop legal immigration, try to curb AI and technology from taking a lot of jobs, which is not just my generation, that's everyone. And I would say not be so interventionist in a lot of foreign governments. But I think Trump does a good job because he's very pragmatic on foreign policy. Yeah, that's more of an advice for Vance to more adopt Trump's foreign policy. But I would say those are some big things because the main issue is jobs, affordability and safety.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah, that's true.
Nayland Haley
And immigration.
Ryan Graduski
Yeah, and you mentioned safety. I'm going to put this idea in your head. Think of like all the homes in like really bad crime ridden neighborhoods that no one wants to live in. If they were available because the crime wasn't there, housing prices would be solved a lot Nail. And where can people go to read more about what you could put out? Because you put out the fiery spices spiciest tweets on the Internet. And like I listen. I spend so much time like, oh God, what did Neil and say about this or that? And I mean a lot of times I laugh out loud but like I'm, I'm always curious.
Nayland Haley
It's not meant to be funny. It's not meant to get attention. These are literally. I don't even think when I do it, it's just me being genuine and it's just I react to what I see. But.
Ryan Graduski
Well, some people are genuinely funny. I mean they don't have to. That's what Makes people like, interesting.
Nayland Haley
Yeah, I would say they could find me on X. It's just Nayland underscore Haley. And then if you're local or you're in South Carolina and you want to get involved, I would say I'm starting a young Republicans group for York, Lancaster and Chester counties.
Ryan Graduski
It's going to be northern South Carolina, right?
Nayland Haley
It's South Carolina.
Ryan Graduski
It's just south of Charlotte and that Northern South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nayland Haley
And so we're focused on advocating for Gen Z causes. We want to campaign and door knock and get on the ground for conservative candidates and we want to increase turnout. Young Republicans are notorious for not doing anything. So I want to change that. I want to make it an actual active, grassroots, local movement.
Ryan Graduski
Do you still doorknock?
Nayland Haley
Yeah, I mean, I, I try to if it's someone that I, that I really want to support. I was in Iowa and I doorknocked a negative 50 degrees. I'll never do that again.
Ryan Graduski
But did you see her door knocking? Someone asked the store like, oh my God, it's nailing. Like that's crazy.
Nayland Haley
No, thankfully. And I prefer it that way.
Ryan Graduski
Okay, cool. Well, thank you for coming on this podcast. I appreciate it so much.
Nayland Haley
Thank you, Ryan.
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Now it's time for Ask Me Anything. If you want to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email me ryan@NumbersGame Podcast.com that's ryan@NumbersGame Podcast.com plural numbers. I read them all. I get to them. I have a big stack. I'm gonna have to do a whole Ask Me Anything day one day. But I love getting these questions and I answer them all either on the air or on private email emailing you back. So this one comes from Frank. He writes, you mentioned that you listen to an unhinged you listen to unhinged liberal podcasts. Can you recommend any particularly fun ones or better yet, particularly funny individual episodes or clips? I Remember long ago, you recommended listening to a podcast episode from Mary Trump, and it was fantastic. Yes, Frank, thank you for listening. What I'm saying, that was the Mary L. Trump Election Day podcast. It was so deranged. It was so fun because it's, like, seven hours long, so it's gonna skip until, like, results are coming out. But in the beginning, they were like, we're gonna sweep. You know, Florida and Texas, and it's all going blue. And then, like, the night goes on. They go. You know, they're like. They're like, we don't need it. We don't need the state. We don't need that state. We're still good. The blue wall still holding. The blue wall still holding. And then it just goes. The whole map goes red. And they just started losing their minds. They're, like, crying on air, and they're like, at least we still have the house. Like, no, we don't have the house. And, like, I mean, woman literally bald crying, like, screamed out. Like, it was a. It was like a guttural cry. It was so good. It was so. I'm gonna watch that tonight instead of a movie. Just sit there and put that on. Election nights are great resources for unhinged liberals. They. Destiny had an unhinged, unhinged episode on. On his YouTube where he was, like, you know, helpful and optimistic. I think the king of it, though, is Alan Lichtman. I don't know if you know who he is. He's the guy who had, like, the 13 keys or the 16 keys. This man's an utter freaking moron. This man is dumber than a sack of bricks. And he really loves to tell everyone that he's a genius. And I could not. I'm not. I'm not joking to you. If he was, you know, if he had. I'm not going to say what I want to say. I want to say something very crude, but if he had, you know, never mind. I'm not going to say it. I'm not. I'm not something that my father would always say. And my father has a mouth like a truck driver, and I keep the podcast clean. He is not a bright man, is my point. His election day podcast about why his 13 keys were so accurate and so smart and you can't break away from the 13 keys. Oh, it's so good. Because he's delusional. Any other ones that are really, really good, I'd have to think I have to sit there and go back and watch what I'm watching. I watch A bunch of Rosie. It's always the women too. Like middle aged women who are like completely obsessed with politics are the ones who are like on the left, who are the ones who are like completely out there. I watch every Rosie o' Donnell interview I can because, like, they're not all gems. But one, I grew up watching her show, so I kind of like her from, as a kid, like enjoying her show. But two, because when she is unhinged, when she goes for a comment about Trump that is completely not true, like that Elon stole the election, it is just heaven. Like, it is heaven. So it's not a podcast because she doesn't say it all the time, but when she does, oh, it's gold. And then this is not podcast, but if you want to like laugh sometimes, you know, on MSNBC and cnn, they like to treat themselves very serious. They're very, very intelligent. They read. It's the sound of a newspaper flipping over. They're so smart. Morning Joe has 700 newspapers everywhere and none of are open. But he's got them constantly. They are the great props. Rachel Maddow, and she did this a couple of times. Ann Coulter always tells me, like, Rachel Maddow is the biggest conspiracy theorist on television. She's bigger than Alex Jones, and she very much is a wild conspiracy theorist. In 2019, she said on air, because I remember watching this and I couldn't believe she said this. In 2019, she said that Russia was, was planning to hack America's energy grid to freeze the entire state of North Dakota to death. Yes, the whole state of North Dakota was going to die in 2019, according to Rachel Maddow. And I, I remember hearing it go, did she just say, is anyone, Is this a gag? She was completely serious. And she said it another time too. She repeated her conversation, said, you know, they're going to hack the power grid and frees everyone in North Dakota, death. And I still can't get over that. And she's never been fired or called out for. I don't like no comment ever. I think she was given a raise. But yeah, those kinds of things. When liberals would say something that's utterly nutty, I find fascinating. There's that one woman who's going very popular on the blogs. She's got a lot of botox. She can't move her face very well. I don't even know her name. She's like angry and screaming all the time. I don't enjoy her because I find her like to be extremely annoying. Kara Swishers, the Same way, like, Kara can have moments where I'm like, well, like, Kara has a show with her with like a liberal guy who's a teacher at Scott Galloway. He's a professor, nyu. And like, sometimes when it's about tech, they're something very interesting to sit there and say, or about the markets. They'll have something very, very smart they'll take from me. And then when they talk about politics, they'll say something completely delusional. And their post and pre election was fantastic. Fantastic because they have no shame in being wrong all the time. And they are very proud of it. They're very proud of their opinions, even if their opinions are, you know, jaw droppingly incorrect. Scott Galloway was, was on a school board. He said this. He was on school board and he voted to shut the school board down. He caused irreparable damage to young men and young women's lives by shutting out a school. He has no shame in it whatsoever. And he said, you guys should all just move on now. I love watching them suffer like I really do and embarrass themselves. I really, really do. Because while, you know, there's no harm in them being wrong on a podcast, he is actually harm people in his lives. Not great when it comes to being accountable. Anyway, that's a long rant. Those are some good episodes. I like to watch them. Kathy Griffin also has, like, delusional things that she says a lot of her on her podcast on YouTube. She actually. One last thing, and I'm going to close the show. She actually was the first person I've heard this rumor in D.C. circles. I never believed it, so I never repeated it. But there was always a rumor in D.C. circles that Elon Musk was having an affair with Stephen Miller's wife. Once again, I don't believe it. I never believed it was just a rumor that constantly heard. These rumors were circulating around constant other things. And you have to parse what seems like it's nonsense and what seems like it doesn't. She was the first person I ever heard who said this out loud on a podcast and was like, oh, yeah, you know, this is. This is how. This is what's going on. I was like, whoa. One, how did she hear that kind of gossip? And two, it's absolutely a lie if she's saying it, you know, it's a lie because she's never, you know, she's also another crazy one like Rosie, who's never accurate but makes me laugh sometimes. Anyway, thank you for listening this podcast. If you like this podcast, please like and subscribe. Give me a five star review if you like that on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast wherever. 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Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Ryan Graduski (guest hosting a segment on “A Numbers Game”)
Main Guest: Nayland Haley
This episode features Ryan Graduski discussing recent voting trends in New Jersey, the shifting political landscape regarding Latino voters, and an in-depth interview with Nayland Haley, son of Nikki Haley. The focus is on how Gen Z is turning against the political establishment, the driving economic and cultural grievances of younger voters, growing mistrust of mainstream media, and the future direction of GOP youth activism.
Timestamps: 03:03 – 14:29
"Democrat voter advantage in New Jersey today is smaller than it was before Trump took the White House in 2016." (Ryan, 06:18)
"Among Latinos, affordability and the cost of living—those are the issues. Immigration did not make the top five." (Ryan, 12:12)
Timestamps: 14:30 – 17:14
Timestamps: 17:15 – 32:08
"People can't seem to understand... well, I can't believe you have different views than your mom. Do you have the same views as your mom? No? Then why would I be any different? I'm from a different generation. We have different problems. So therefore I have different solutions." (Nayland, 19:53)
"When they have the opportunity to try and make something of themselves and they're not even getting a chance to start, that's when they get angry and they've every right to be." (Nayland, 20:44)
“They inherited something that was great and they turned it into something that was terrible for us.” (Nayland, 21:39)
"We can't have a 21st-century economy with a 20th-century immigration system." (Ryan paraphrasing, 24:06)
"It's not sustainable and it's irresponsible to have it right now, even the legal immigration." (Nayland, 24:22)
"All you have to do is put your gender in there... the algorithm will then feed you complete opposite stuff. The future of divide... is going to be gender." (Nayland, 25:59)
"They're the worst people in the world. The biggest enemy to the American people... They have no loyalty to a country... only their money and their ratings" (Nayland, 28:42)
"The main issue is jobs, affordability and safety." (Nayland, 30:23)
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 06:18 | "Democrat voter advantage in New Jersey today is smaller than it was before Trump took the White House in 2016." | Ryan Graduski | | 12:12 | "Among Latinos, affordability and the cost of living—those are the issues. Immigration did not make the top five." | Ryan Graduski | | 19:53 | "Do you have the same views as your mom?... I'm from a different generation. We have different problems. So therefore I have different solutions." | Nayland Haley | | 20:44 | "When they have the opportunity to try and make something of themselves and they're not even getting a chance to start, that's when they get angry and they've every right to be." | Nayland Haley | | 21:39 | "They inherited something that was great and they turned it into something that was terrible for us." | Nayland Haley | | 24:22 | "It's not sustainable and it's irresponsible to have it right now, even the legal immigration." | Nayland Haley | | 25:59 | "All you have to do is put your gender in there... the algorithm will then feed you complete opposite stuff." | Nayland Haley | | 28:42 | "The biggest enemy to the American people... is the media. They're the worst. They're vultures, they're blood sucking leeches." | Nayland Haley | | 30:23 | "The main issue is jobs, affordability and safety." | Nayland Haley |
This episode delivers a data-driven take on recent electoral shifts, asserting that Gen Z Republicans are channeling economic discontent and skepticism about America's future in distinctively nationalist and anti-establishment ways. Nayland Haley embodies this new breed, unapologetically critiquing both prior generations and the media, arguing for major immigration reform, a pragmatist foreign policy, and a renewed focus on jobs and affordability. The future of GOP youth activism, he suggests, lies in energized grassroots local action, not traditional institutions.
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