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Episode: It's a Numbers Game: The Numbers Behind How Mail-In Ballots and Redistricting Are Shaping the 2025 Elections
Date: October 30, 2025
Host: Guest host/numbers expert Ryan Girdusky (filling in for Clay & Buck; main segment), with guest Cliff Maloney
Core Focus: Analysis of mail-in ballot trends, early voting, turnout data, and redistricting in advance of the 2025 elections, with a numbers-driven look at New Jersey, New York City, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and redistricting in Nevada and Texas.

Main Theme

This episode dives deep into the crucial role of early voting, mail-in ballots, and district maps in shaping the upcoming 2025 elections. With a sharp, data-driven approach, guest host Ryan Girdusky analyzes numbers from key battlegrounds (especially New Jersey, New York City, Virginia, and Pennsylvania) and discusses strategies with political organizer Cliff Maloney. The conversation uses election data, turnout models, and demographic insights to highlight both opportunities and challenges facing GOP candidates in the year’s top races.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Early Voting and Mail-In Trends: New Jersey

• Ryan Girdusky analyzes the early vote numbers in the NJ governor's race:
  • Democrats are outpacing Republicans not just in mail-in ballots (expected), but now in in-person early voting as well.
  • As of recording, Democrats have 5,000 more early in-person votes and a total ~220,000-vote lead over Republicans (combined mail and early).
  • Notably, in 2021 Democrats led with a 276,000 raw vote advantage on Election Day, but Republican Jack Ciattarelli got within 80,000 votes—meaning day-of turnout helped close the gap, but wasn't quite enough.
  • Despite increased Republican registration, they're not banked in the early vote yet.

Quote:

“Republicans really have to sit there and wake up either to start changing the trend lines or, you know, they're all going to set their alarm on Tuesday and be like, hey, I'm here. I'm ready to vote. I'm going to cast a million ballots and…overwhelm the massive Democratic lead.” — Ryan Girdusky [08:12]

2. Turnout Modeling and Polling in New York City

• NYC 2025 Mayoral Race Overview:
  • Turnout is projected to be 2.1 to 2.5 million—more than twice 2021's mayors’ race, approaching presidential cycle levels ([10:25]).
  • Seniors (75–79) are now casting more ballots than the youngest voting group (18–24), a crucial shift from the Democratic primary, which skewed younger.
  • Election appears to favor established, older, Democratic base voters—interpreted as good news for Cuomo.
  • “Commie Corridor”/progressive district turnout surged early but is fading; core Cuomo areas are still showing up strong.

Quote:

“More New Yorkers between the ages of 75 to 79 have cast ballots than voters under 25… That's earth shattering.” — Ryan Girdusky [12:51]

3. State of Play in Virginia

• Virginia doesn’t register by party, so turnout modeling is “voodoo science” ([16:12]).
• Trump counties are at the high and low ends of turnout, while consistent Democratic counties cluster in the middle.
• For Republicans to succeed down ballot, margins must be kept close, especially for state legislative seats; an 8–9 point gap is trouble.

4. The Culture of Early Voting Resistance

• Many Republicans remain fixated on voting only on Election Day—a major hurdle for GOP get-out-the-vote operations.
• Democratic advantage in mail-in ballots means resources can be better targeted; Republicans have to “spend two to three times as much money…to turn out our voters on election day because the universe is so large compared to the Democrats” ([29:13]).

Interview Segment: Cliff Maloney, Citizens Alliance

[21:51–36:15]

Key Takeaways

Jersey Insights:

• 184,000 Republicans requested mail-in ballots; 76,000 have not yet returned them.
• Getting those ballots sent back could overcome Jack Ciattarelli's 80,000-vote deficit from the last race ([23:11]).

PA Early Vote & Key Targets:

• In Pennsylvania, Democrats lead by 270,000 in ballot returns; that's less than their 430,000-ballot lead in the comparable prior off-year election.
• Critical counties for GOP: Congressional Districts 7, 8 (northeastern PA), and 10 (Harrisburg area) are strategic battlegrounds ([26:41]).
• Early voting creates “permanent infrastructure” for both parties (habit formation).

Strategic Emphasis:

• Early voting by GOP reduces wasted get-out-the-vote resources and sharpens campaign targeting.
• “If you want to come out, sponsor a ballot chaser… $175 sponsors a full day of ballot chasing” — Cliff Maloney [35:36]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There are 76,000 registered Republicans in New Jersey who went through the process of requesting a ballot… and they haven't turned it in…Jack only lost by roughly 80,000 votes in 2021. So…get those 76,000 Republicans to just get that ballot back.” — Cliff Maloney [23:18]
• “If Jackson Rowan wins election day by 150,000 votes, he is not governor. Right. And so there's going to be a large portion of those people…does he win it by 250,000 and he's governor? That, I think, is the question.” — Cliff Maloney [32:10]
• “Talk about being tone deaf…any Democrat that is even mildly talented should win New Jersey by five points at a minimum…she [Cheryl] is in this dead heat race…she’s out of touch with reality” — Cliff Maloney on Mikie Sherrill’s rumored 2028 ambitions [34:29]

Audience Q&A: Ask Me Anything

[39:24–48:53]

Nevada’s Redistricting Deep Dive

• Despite GOP statewide wins, Democrats’ surgical redistricting maintains a supermajority in the state legislature.
  • Trump won statewide in 2024, but only 16 of 42 assembly districts.
  • Republicans running for assembly got 100,000 more votes statewide than Democrats but flipped only one seat due to district lines.
• Key opportunity districts: State Senate Districts 8 and 12 in Las Vegas ([42:15])

Texas Senate Race: Paxton vs. Cornyn

• Paxton has a “branding issue” but is stronger on immigration; Cornyn is well-financed and unpopular with the conservative base but may benefit from intra-GOP vote splits ([45:00]).
• Senate Conservative Fund and similar groups are not currently strong enough to challenge entrenched incumbents.

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:04] — Launch of Ryan Girdusky’s YouTube channel and transition to election coverage
• [08:12] — NJ gubernatorial early voting breakdown & implications
• [10:25] — New York City turnout projections & demographic shifts
• [16:12] — Analysis of Virginia turnout patterns
• [18:39] — Cliff Maloney joins; granular insight on NJ and PA mail-in trends
• [23:18] — GOP ballot gap in NJ: 76,000 ballots still unsent
• [26:41] — Critical Pennsylvania counties & congressional targets
• [29:13] — Why early voting is an operational necessity for the GOP
• [39:24] — Ask Me Anything: Voter trends, gerrymanders, Texas Senate primary
• [42:15] — Nevada’s districting: numbers and strategic openings

Tone and Style

• Sarcastic, data-driven, and direct—consistent with Ryan Girdusky’s public persona
• Candid about party weaknesses, skeptical of party “excuses” regarding demographics and turnout
• Practical, focused on mechanics: who turns out, when, and how it affects strategy

Bottom Line:

This episode offers a rich, numbers-centric look at how early voting, mail-in ballots, and the intricacies of redistricting are radically shaping the 2025 election landscape. Both hosts and guests emphasize urgent lessons for Republicans, particularly around modern tactics to match Democratic vote banking. The episode is packed with pols, stats, anecdotes from the field, and strategy tips—indispensable for anyone tracking U.S. elections at the granular level.