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Mary Katharine Ham
Hey, guys. We are back on.
Carol Markle
Normally the show is normal.
Mary Katharine Ham
It takes to win the news looks weird. I am Mary Kathryn.
Carol Markle
And I'm Carol Markle. Hi, Mary Kathryn. How's it going?
Mary Katharine Ham
Oh, it's going all right. Getting through this week. My hard week of having no dependence and going to the gym and doing podcasts, eating by myself.
Carol Markle
Stressful. I again love my time at Hillsdale, so I hope you're enjoying it as well. The kids are amazing.
Mary Katharine Ham
Are you finding that super smart? Fun? Yes.
Carol Markle
Yeah. Well dressed. Nobody at my college dressed like that. Everybody in my school was in pajamas. They're all in, like, business wear.
Mary Katharine Ham
I was so thankful that you told me that because I would have dressed medium to down had you not warned me. And I get in there and they're all professional looking and right. Have their hair nice when I arrive and I'm like, oh, goodness, we gotta up the ante here.
Carol Markle
Molly Heminou was the one who told me about the fact that they dressed up because I was planning to be like jeans and a sweater. Like, not, like, not nice. But you know what I saw my teachers wear in college?
Mary Katharine Ham
Yep. No, they're. They're good to go. They're. They're ready for the real world.
Carol Markle
Yeah, I really want to more than
Mary Katharine Ham
most college students, for sure.
Carol Markle
All right, let's get into it. The war with Iran continues. It's looking pretty good. The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and General Dan Kaine gave a joint press conference today. And I mean, they said some interesting stuff. I thought that Pete Hegseth remains somebody that I think was just born for this role. Look, I defended him when he was having a tough time getting confirmed. And I really felt like he was the guy for this job at this time. And I think every day since then, I have felt very good about it. He's really is the guy here to bring our defense capabilities to the next level, to get more enrollment, which he has done significantly, and just to be a cheerleader and praise the heroics of our military in such a way that I just think we haven't seen in a while. So we're going to Roll. We're going to start it off with a short clip of him talking. Today we have two short clips of him. Here's P. Hegseth.
Pete Hegseth
We sunk their prize ship, the Soleimani. Looks like POTUS got him twice. Their navy. Not a factor. Pick your adjective. It is no more. In fact, yesterday in the Indian Ocean and we'll play it on the screen there, an American submarine sunk an Iranian warship that thought it was safe in international waters. Instead, it was sunk by a torpedo. Quiet death. The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II. Like in that war back when we were still the war department. We are fighting to win.
Carol Markle
He just seems like he's having so much fun. He's like, this is what I'm here to do.
Mary Katharine Ham
I've been more skeptical of him and I was very excited for him on a recruiting front because I did think that having been in combat and being a guy who could relate to younger men, men, that he was men and women, that he was a person who could bring more in the door. You can't argue with a lot of the operational success of the military since he has been at the top. I love listening to General Kane as well. He's so obviously got to meet him in December, actually, briefly at the Travis Manion foundation gala. And these guys are impressive. I know that the press is like, oh, he's just broing out up there. But here's the thing.
Carol Markle
Good, good. Bro out.
Mary Katharine Ham
Here's the thing. The press is attempting to manifest operational failure from operational success.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
It's like, nope, Our U. S. Men's hockey teaming, the Iran strikes, where they're like, no, no, no. We're going to say that all of this is a problem as it's happening, Even though what you're actually doing is creating air signs supremacy over the entire country of. Of Iran and doing pretty amazing things, bringing together coalitions that the world has never seen.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Who would have. Who would have thought five years ago if you said, well, yes, the Arab states are going to join with the US And Israel in backing the striking of Iran and the killing of Openly. And everyone would be like, openly.
Carol Markle
Yeah, because a lot of. A lot of times they do stuff behind the scenes, but they don't do things quite as openly as they're doing it here. And you mentioned supremacy. Here's one more short clip of Pete Hegseth talking about just that.
Pete Hegseth
Starting last night and to be completed in a few days, in under a week, the two most powerful air forces in the world will have complete control of Iranian skies, uncontested airspace. I hope all the folks watching understand what uncontested airspace and complete control means. It means we will fly all day, all night, day and night, finding, fixing and finishing the missiles and defense industrial base of the Iranian military, finding and fixing their leaders and their military leaders. Flying over Tehran, flying over Iran, flying over their capital, flying over the irgc. Iranian leaders looking up and seeing only US And Israeli air power every minute of every day until we decide it's over and Iran will be able to do nothing about it. B2s, B52s, B1s, Predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets, death and destruction from the sky all day long.
Mary Katharine Ham
Just amazing.
Carol Markle
All day long.
Mary Katharine Ham
I came across a line. Derek Thompson of the Atlantic was interviewing another Atlantic writer, Karim Sajapour. And I just want to note that that was him who said this, because I think it's fantastic. He says, I think this might be one of the few instances in modern history where a greater percentage of the society being bombed was supportive of military action than the society that was doing the bombing. Because the initial snap polling here has been a little rocky for the administration, I think, because a lot of people just go, is this Iraq? I don't want this to be Iraq.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
But we have another poll, a CBS poll, that was asked in a really interesting way, one, I think it's worth noting that every bombing run you see videoed in Iran is followed by laughing and clapping. So I think sharing. Right. Important, important context. But the CBS poll asks, do you approve or disapprove of military action against Iran? If you think the conflict, conflict would last years, and the number is 13% months, 46% days or weeks, 76% would approve. So this looks like they're ahead of schedule in establishing what they want to establish and that the outcome could be within weeks or months.
Carol Markle
That's right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Which would mean you're on the good side of American public approval, which is what we've been saying is if Trump strikes and uses power quickly, efficiently and effectively, Americans are like, great, great.
Carol Markle
Yeah. And look, things again appear to be going well. Iran's strikes are slowing down. They're running out of missiles, et cetera, yesterday. So we're recording this on Wednesday. On Tuesday, the Israeli Air Force attacked Iran and destroyed another meeting. They were having another in person meeting. Mary Catherine, somebody on X this account called the Salon dawn tweeted, even Jamie Dimon, who is CEO of JPMorgan, would be impressed by Iran's commitment to in person meetings.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, seriously.
Carol Markle
The council is comprised of 88 religious leaders, and they were choosing the new Ayatollah and the Israeli Air Force blew them up, you know, allegedly.
Mary Katharine Ham
It's just.
Carol Markle
It's amazing. It's amazing to watch two militaries who are really on top of their game do this. And it's amazing to watch, like you said, the other countries in the Middle east participate on the side of the US And Israel. It's impressive and it's a testament to what Donald Trump has accomplished. I know people don't want to give him any credit, but this is something that could only happen because Donald Trump is a little different, plays things completely differently than other politicians have, and is able to get people together who would have never considered being together.
Mary Katharine Ham
Meanwhile, the alliance that should be coming to the rescue of the Iranians, China and Russia, nowhere to be seen. China, I believe, noted the other day that it would offer moral support. And Chinese air defenses apparently have been found to be not at all helpful, as you can tell by our air supremacy. At this point, there is an argument back home, again, a lot of press about, okay, well, what is the rationale for this war? And to me, it is. To me it is. Well, they've been at war with us since 1979, and we have never struck directly because we were aware, worried about the capacity that they had during the Obama years. The strong preference was for appeasement. But you can make an argument that we're appeasing because we're afraid of what they have. We're going to extend this deadline.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
The Iran that exists right now when this strike was planned is a different Iran in capabilities than it was at any other time since 1979. It is laid bare. Thank you, Israeli strikes on their air defenses. Thank you, Israeli and U.S. intel. And so dealing with it at this moment, particularly if you have a chance to hit Khamenei because you know where he is, seems like a pretty good shot to take.
Carol Markle
Yeah, absolutely. Another person who has been really impressive during this time is obviously Secretary Marshall Marco Rubio. You know, longtime fans here on normally. He also has had some really amazing comments that he's made during this time. He said something that was misconstrued by people on the Internet. On purpose.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah.
Carol Markle
Said that they. They took it to mean that Israel forced the US to get into this war, which is ridiculous. So to clarify, he said this.
Marco Rubio
Listen, let me explain to you guys this in simple English, okay? Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have an ambition to have nuclear Weapons. They intend to develop those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones and terrorism, that the world will not be able to touch them for fear of those things. And this is the weakest they've ever been. Now is the time to go after them. The President made the decision to go after them. Take away their missiles, take away their navy, take away their drones, take away their ability to make those things so that they can never have a nuclear weapon. That's why the President made this decision. It was the right decision. And the world will be a safer place when these radical clerics no longer have access to these weapons. You see how they're using them now. Imagine how they would use them a year from now if they had more of these.
Mary Katharine Ham
By the way, this is a great argument that Iran is making against itself, is that they're randomly shooting whatever they have at anyone, including actual allies of theirs. Qatar and Oman are like, wait, what's happening? I thought we had a thing, but y' all don't have a thing.
Carol Markle
There's no thing.
Mary Katharine Ham
They don't have a thing because these are lunatics, as Rubio points out. Now, I will say I do think that, and I know it's not Trump style. And what you get from Trump is the guy who will hit Iran. So you don't necessarily get the sit down Oval Office, Resolute desk address. But I do think that is owed to the American people. I think he could go out and make the exact argument that Rubio made quickly in an Oval Address office and that it's serious and this needs to be taken seriously. Yeah, I would appreciate that. And I think it would clear up some of this, but it should. The reporters can have brains in their heads. And remember a couple months back after Midnight Hammer, when Israel had jets flying over Iran on their way and Trump said stop and pull them back and they did. Because Trump is not. This, this allegation is stupid, right? It's stupid.
Carol Markle
This idea that Trump. Yeah, that Trump could be forced into something. Come on, have you met them?
Mary Katharine Ham
Now, they also chopped up Rubio's quote on purpose to mislead people because he was asked two separate questions, why and why now? And the why now was, well, we had found this target of opportunity together and Israel was going to take it.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Like, that's how this works, guys. I also think we're in a double bind where it's like, if America acts alone, that's bad, but if America acts with the other most capable intel and military on the planet, that's also bad.
Carol Markle
Yeah, there was a piece in Axios. It was Mark Caputo and Barack Ravid. Barack Ravid is who gets normally planted the stories from inside the administration of people skeptical of military action. So it's kind of interesting that he had this story, which was that last Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called President Trump with a stunning tip. Iran's Supreme Leader and his top advisors were all set to meet at one location in Tehran on Saturday morning. They could all be killed in a single devastating airstrike, Netanyahu told Trump and his team, according to three sources briefed on the discussion. And obviously Trump said, let's do it, let's do it. Why wouldn't they do it?
Mary Katharine Ham
You know what this reminded me of yesterday was Bush's attempt to reform Social Security. I know that sounds weird, but in the moment it was a very politically unpopular thing. But he thought it was the right thing to do. He thought that it was necessary for the country's finances. And had it happened, we would be in a much better position now than we are had he been able to convince everyone and everyone not dug their heels in about it. In foreign policy, the President has a lot more power. So what Trump did is he took his somewhat politically unpopular reform and risk and he did it. And I do think in 20 years we will be much safer as a result.
Carol Markle
That's absolutely.
Mary Katharine Ham
We will have a better world order because the head of this snake was lopped off. And even if you don't get perfect freedom in the aftermath in Iran, it is hard to get worse than what we had.
Carol Markle
Yeah, that's absolutely right. The thing is we won't see it that way or sense it that way. We could only see when it's worse. Right. We can only see that the social not privatizing, what was it, 5% of Social Security has ended up being a bad thing for us. Us, it's much tougher with a situation like Iran to be like, oh, we feel safer, we are safer, but we will be safer. And that's the reality of it.
Mary Katharine Ham
Well, I think some people are resistant to believe that these far off dangers cause problems for us. But the alliance of Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, especially with those couple in our backyard, very dangerous. Yeah, very dangerous. I would also note there was an update on this front of Machado, who is the opposition leader in Venezuela, says she's coming back to Venezuela soon. And there is the suggestion that there will be elections. So that is moving in the direction of the Venezuelan people making decisions about that country. So we hope the best for both of those countries and that for it to work out in that way.
Carol Markle
Absolutely. Eventually, Iran, the Iranian people are going to have to kind of rise up and do their own thing and decide what kind of government they're going to have. And America's role is to secure that for them. But then they have to take over.
Mary Katharine Ham
Can I On the note that this, of course, comes with very serious risk. We now have the names of four of the American troops who died in Kuwait. Those those killed, according to PBS and this is from the Pentagon, were Captain Cody Cork, 35, of Winter Haven, Florida, Sergeant First Class Noah Tins. Excuse me for not knowing how to pronounce that. 42 of Bellevue, Nebraska, Sgt. 1st Class Nicole Amore, 39, of White Bear Lake, Minnesota, and Sgt. Declan Cody, 20, of West Des Moines, Iowa. I know that Nicole Amore was a mom of young kids. Declan Cody had become an Eagle Scout in 2020, which if you become an Eagle Scout in the year of our Lord 2020, you're the best among us. Right? You were able to get that done. They all devoted their lives to their country and please lift up their families because they're in very real pain right now as this moves forward.
Carol Markle
There's absolutely a cost and these people paid it for all of us. Okay, we're going to take a short break and be right back with some primary news. There was a primary last night and we're going to talk about it.
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Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, I think that Jasmine Crockett didn't run a campaign. She ran an identity and an Instagram account. Yeah, that's what she ran. And her idea, and some of the activists who supported her, was that we were just going to do 2020 again, which is scream at you about how you must support a black woman, and if you do not, then you are a racist. And I have to say, even though she would be a more vulnerable general election candidate for Republicans, that I am appreciative that this tactic did not work because they threw some. Some, I think, unfair and nasty stuff at Talarico. And although it's fun to watch Democrats pay the price of their own tactics from 2020, I'm glad it didn't work for her because I don't think we want to be encouraging the types of candidates who are just identity first vibes only. She didn't have a campaign manager. She didn't run ads. And I know we're in a new era, but, like, you have to have
Carol Markle
a campaign, not that new an era.
Mary Katharine Ham
You have to have a campaign, not just yell at people. And then, of course, as she loses, she blames Republicans for her loss, which doesn't make any sense because Republicans, A, goaded her into running because we thought she'd be easier to beat, and B, to the extent we were meddling, it was to vote for her, not against her, or. Or suppress her vote at all.
Carol Markle
Yeah. Come on. Now. There are two kinds of people. There are the kinds of people that would love to see a judge, Jasmine Crockett, win because she'll be potentially an easier person to beat in the general. And I think you and I are the opposite, where we want the more serious candidate to win just in case. Just in case they pull off an upset. Just in case. I mean, I think Talarico is also fairly far left to be, you know, real. But he's not Jasmine Crockett left.
Mary Katharine Ham
So that's. Well, like he. He puts in some work. Right. I don't buy it. I don't buy the youth pasture in the back of a pickup.
Carol Markle
Same.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, I don't like how he just massages his Christianity until it satisfies any of his progressive views that need to Be satisfied because I don't think that's a correct way of doing that. I think the speech he gave that includes the sentence God is non binary is really going to come back to bite him in a general election in Texas.
Carol Markle
Yeah, yeah.
Mary Katharine Ham
But this is a bit of a tough scenario for Republicans for sure because Ken Paxton has a lot of baggage. He is the anti establishment candidate. He will be going up in 12 weeks against Cornyn, the four time incumbent senator. And Trump did not endorse in the three way primary to start this. Will he endorse for the runoff which would make it easier for Republicans because then your runoff wouldn't cost so much money and these two people wouldn't beat the ever loving crap out of each other until they go up against Hellorico. It's going to cost a lot of money. It's already cost 60 million plus to get Cornyn where he is.
Carol Markle
Mm.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah.
Carol Markle
It's gonna be a question. Do you think Trump would endorse Cornyn? I mean that's the. Some are urging that what the president of the party would normally do. But Paxton is more Trumpy. It's really, it's kind of a tough question.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yes, it is a tough question. I think some are urging him to endorse Cornyn. I think many in the base would be upset. But the base doesn't say stay upset with Trump for very long.
Carol Markle
That's right.
Mary Katharine Ham
And where do those. Wesley Hunt was also in this primary who I really like. I might have ended up a Wesley Hunt voter if I were there. Where do his voters go? I think there's a couple hundred thousand of them and we will see what he ends up doing as well. But this, this has the potential to suck up a lot of money and be a lot closer than Republicans want it to be.
Carol Markle
Yeah. The other notable race from last night, Dan Crenshaw lost his primary. He was the GOP incumbent representative also in Texas to State Rep. Steve Toth. It was an upset. I don't think. I, I didn't realize that was a possibility. There's very few polls in these races. So I think it was a surprise to a lot of people.
Mary Katharine Ham
I think it was.
Carol Markle
I believe Trump did not endorse that race either. Again, does the Trump endorsement matter in primaries? I say yes, it still does.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah. And Crenshaw had been openly more Trump critical and the base decided that they wanted someone else in that slot. Yes, that this is a surprise. And I, I think whereas I was on the lookout for the left getting itself in trouble with more base Satisfying candidates than general election. Satisfying candidates. I think the Republican Party is also in some danger of doing that. That doesn't mean that these guys can't pan out in the end. Yeah, but you may build a harder road for yourself.
Carol Markle
That's right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah.
Carol Markle
We do this sometimes. Build that harder road for ourselves.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah.
Carol Markle
Look, in my life, I have always voted for the most conservative candidate in the race. That's not what this is all the time. It's not always the most conservative candidate. It's sometimes the most bombastic or the most angry or that kind of thing that doesn't play quite as well in a general. And I think we need to be careful of that. And then I say this to you because I know you agree with me, but the rest of the party, I, I don't know, do they agree with us on this? I think they kind of like the bombastic.
Mary Katharine Ham
No, I mean, electability is not a sexy argument.
Carol Markle
It's really not. Yeah, it's not. I don't care. Yeah.
Mary Katharine Ham
It's also worth noting there was a really high turnout for Talarico in Latino majority counties that in many cases Republicans would of course like to stick around. As Republican voters in this primary, you could go either way. You can vote Republican or Democrat. So maybe they just found the Democratic primary more interesting, a little more spicy. Wanted to vote for Talarico, which is what a lot of those counties did at about 60% and heavily Latino counties. But it should be of interest and perhaps concern to Republicans that a lot of these counties that they hoped would stay Republican are looking like they're enthusiastically coming out for a Democratic primary.
Carol Markle
Yeah, we'll see what that signal.
Mary Katharine Ham
Something for the fall.
Carol Markle
Texas is, you know, I, I say this, Texas is the, the, the, the whale for Democrats. But, you know, Virginia used to be the whale for Democrats. They. That used to be the state that I was like, going blue.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah.
Carol Markle
So always got to be careful and never say never.
Mary Katharine Ham
Well, there will be a ton of runoffs and we will keep you posted on those. But also in North Carolina, a big one. Expected results. Roy Cooper, who is the former governor of North Carolina, will be the Senate candidate for the Democrats. And Michael Watley, former RNC chair, the candidate for Republicans. Whatley is not super well known in the state. Despite having been the RNC chair. Cooper is popular, even though he shouldn't be, because he was terrible during COVID and then terrible during Hurricane Helene. Nonetheless, he is a person who has gotten a lot of passes. So we'll see what happens there. That is for Thom Tillis seat.
Carol Markle
Yeah. Meanwhile, Palm beach county in Florida is on the verge of going red in terms of voter registration. This is crazy because Palm beach county was traditionally a blue county in Florida. Very few blue counties left in Florida, Mary CATHERINE so, you know, you have your pick of counties should you choose to make the move.
Mary Katharine Ham
You know, I'm going to be a panhandle gal.
Carol Markle
Yes.
Mary Katharine Ham
If I ever come to Florida.
Carol Markle
I've never been to the Panhandle. Can we, can we go together?
Mary Katharine Ham
I'm going to be stuck in what, what really is just South Georgia and south Alabama.
Carol Markle
I love it. Let's go, let's go visit family trips,
Mary Katharine Ham
you know, it's gorgeous. It's gorgeous with the, you got the, the moss off the old oak trees. It's gorgeous.
Carol Markle
Yeah. So Ron DeSantis retweeted that Palm Beach County's Democrat advantage collapsed from 138,000 to a little over 12,000. And it could tell by the vote, by mail numbers that a lot of those blue voters are snowbirds. If there was a way to get snowbirds to not be eligible to vote in Florida, I would certainly be for that.
Mary Katharine Ham
Can I point out, just on the voter turnout and flipping states and what have you, Scott Pressler, who of course has done very energetic on the ground work in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, all over the place, he just tweeted this the other day. And I just want to acknowledge growth in this position and this mission for him because this is good stuff. We've identified 1615 Farsi speaking voters in Pennsylvania. Out of those, 920 are registered Democrats. At Early Vote Action, we'll have peer to peer text messages shortly for you to communicate a beautiful Persian specific message to them. The Republican Party has their backs.
Carol Markle
Yeah.
Mary Katharine Ham
Not leaving anything on the table. It is going straight to those people and saying, hi, guess who just killed Khomeini.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Look, it is a very compelling argument, by the way, have you seen that? There's these. A viral sound of a DJ having Karani.
Carol Markle
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, I have.
Mary Katharine Ham
Trump's Khomeini is dead.
Carol Markle
Yep. So good.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, this is, this is the new world.
Carol Markle
It really is. To talk about the 2028 primary for a second, Gavin Newsom was at a book event in Los Angeles and he said some things about Israel that I think are being portrayed a little bit harsher than I actually heard them. And listen, I don't give Newsom any credit at all, but Yashar Ali tweeted, Newsom said that those who say Israel is in a apartheid state are doing so, quote, appropriately. Newsom said Israel has been unable to resolve the Hamas issue over the past couple of years, so how could it possibly get into the regime change business in Iran? He also alluded to concerns about Israeli influence on US Government decisions. I, I hear that, but listening to that clip, it was a very lefty, I just don't like the Netanyahu administration kind of clip. I didn't hear anything super new there. But I still think that it's going to be interesting to see if the Democrats are really going to be turning on our main, very capable ally in order to run in their primary. And this could easily be the beginning of that, you know, being the case where they're all going to raise their hands and say they oppose any future alliance with Israel because it's not about the support. Right. I know a lot of people talk about how much money we give Israel for its defense. All of that money is spent on American defense systems. No president wants to cut. That is the, is the reality of it. Israel could easily go it alone. The US does not want them to. And when Newsom says, you know, Israel has been unable to take out Hamas, mostly because we've tied their hands and the world has tied their hands, they could absolutely take out Hamas if they did not care who else they took
Mary Katharine Ham
out, he's also sort of ignoring the idea that, like, Hamas is living next to the governor's mansion. If we were to do the analogous situation. So taking out this, this enemy while you're, while your hands are being tied is a very, very tough logistical ask when it's right on your border attacking you daily.
Carol Markle
That's right.
Mary Katharine Ham
It's really tough. So I think it, I do appreciate so much having been to Israel and I think others should try to visit because once you see how close everything is together, you get a new appreciat appreciation for why.
Carol Markle
Right.
Mary Katharine Ham
Why the defenses need to be what they are.
Carol Markle
Yep. When they were like, well, you're going to the north today. Okay. Two hours later we're in the north. You're going to the south today. Two hours later you're in the south.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do think, I think you're right that, you know, using this kind of language like apartheid is going to become normal, which, by the way, if you ever have been to Israel or talked to anyone who's from there, it's not, it's not at all.
Carol Markle
Not apartheid.
Mary Katharine Ham
So it's just untrue. So saying untrue things about Israel is probably going to be the par for the course moving through the 2028 primary.
Carol Markle
So yeah, unfortunate. And I hope the Republicans don't succumb to the same thing. I think the numbers still are overwhelmingly pro Israel no matter what the Tuckers of the world want. But we'll see. We'll see what JD Vance is saying closer to that time.
Mary Katharine Ham
A quick note that actually fits with 2028 as well is the up and coming Governor Abigail Spamberger of Virginia whose Democratic run state legislature has been proposing all sorts of insane things. Yeah, she had a chance to moderate last week. She had a chance to moderate because a 41 year old woman, Stephanie Minter was murdered at a bus stop in Northern Virginia. And she was murdered by an illegal alien who's been in the US for 15 years. And during that his time in Northern Virginia has been arrested on 3:30 offenses, many of them violent, including malicious wounding and forcible rape. And he has been let go or not charged or on the streets every single time because there is a Soros funded prosecutor in Fairfax county who doesn't like to prosecute named Steve Discano.
Carol Markle
Yeah.
Mary Katharine Ham
And after this murder, Abigail Spamberger was asked as the governor, would you honor an ICE detainer for this man? And she said no. Go get a warrant. Oof. He has to. He has to commit another crime I guess in order for them to come pick it. This is just a no brainer. And there was a Biden former staffer who was like this is not passing the test for a modern Democrat. Like you cannot signal that this is a hard decision for you. You have to go pick this guy up.
Carol Markle
And she's the quote unquote moderate.
Mary Katharine Ham
She's the moderate.
Carol Markle
Yeah, I don't think so.
Mary Katharine Ham
Nope. She's Mumdani wing, guys. Yep. Doesn't matter how her suit looks, how boring it is. She's Mumdani wing. All righty.
Carol Markle
All right, we'll be right back with more on.
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All right, we are back on normally with some good news out of the Supreme Court where they gave some relief to parents who objected to California school systems transitioning socially their children without notifying them. And they said hey, we feel like this violates our parents rights and our religious rights. And the Supreme Court was like indeed. This is Amy Howell writing at the SCOTUS blog. The Supreme Court on Monday granted a request from a group of California parents to reinstate a ruling by a federal district court that prohibits schools in that state from misleading parents about their children's gender presentation and that requires schools to follow parents instructions regarding the names and pronouns that children use there. In a seven page order the majority explained that the parents were likely to prevail on their claim that California's policies violate the parents rights to freely exercise their religion and their right to quote, direct the upbringing and education of their children. Thank you very much.
Carol Markle
Yeah, I was told this never happens. This never happens. Schools never transition kids behind their parents backs. And yet this is a case that reached all the way to the Supreme Court saying yeah, it does happen. The underlying case is going to continue through the lower courts, meaning that this legal fight is actually not over yet because the injunction is just preliminary. But still it's, it's a big move to say this is not acceptable. And I think that that's what the Supreme Court should be, should be saying when people are doing things against the wishes of the parents.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, it's discouraging both in this case and the Maryland Montgomery county schools one that you have to go all the way to the Supreme Court to get, get, get relief on your totally commonsensical parents rights to raise your children as you see fit. But this is where we are and this is how the progressives creep, creep, creep into everything and then make things that were formerly just totally understood by everyone as cultural norms. They're like oh no, that's not real anymore because we're fighting a culture war and you got here late. So go to the Supreme Court and try to get your parents rights back.
Carol Markle
Yeah, well I hope they win and I hope that sanity prevails. I feel like we're moving in the right direction on this. I don't think that the Democrats are going to be running on boys can be in girls locker rooms this time around. Although we'll see, right. Who knows what they're going to run on? The primary moves them all further to the left before they try to make a bolt for the center and the general. I hope they get called on all the crazy things that they believe and you know, have to actually state what those insane things are.
Mary Katharine Ham
Yeah, Tellarico is a signal, I think that they are interested in moving to the center to somewhat or at least extricating themselves from 2020 tactics and beliefs to some degree. But also God is non binary. So you know that's right. He's got both things going on. Yes.
Carol Markle
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Episode Title: Iran Strikes, Hegseth & Rubio’s Case, Texas Primary Shockers, and a Major Supreme Court Win for Parents
Date: March 5, 2026
Hosts: Mary Katharine Ham & Carol Markle
In this episode, Mary Katharine Ham and Carol Markle dive into current major headlines:
Timestamps: 03:54–19:27
"We sunk their prize ship, the Soleimani. Looks like POTUS got him twice. Their navy. Not a factor. ...an American submarine sunk an Iranian warship that thought it was safe in international waters. ...The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II."
"He just seems like he's having so much fun. He's like, this is what I'm here to do."
"Bringing together coalitions that the world has never seen."
"Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. ... Now is the time to go after them. The President made the decision..."
"We're in a double bind where if America acts alone, that's bad, but if America acts with the other most capable intel and military...that's also bad."
"We will have a better world order because the head of this snake was lopped off. ...It is hard to get worse than what we had."
"They all devoted their lives to their country and please lift up their families because they're in very real pain right now."
Timestamps: 22:08–29:27
Texas Democratic Senate Primary upset: James Talarico defeats Jasmine Crockett.
"Jasmine Crockett didn't run a campaign. She ran an identity and an Instagram account."
On the GOP side: No outright winner; John Cornyn and Ken Paxton heading to a runoff.
"It's gonna be a question. Do you think Trump would endorse Cornyn?...Paxton is more Trumpy. It's really, it's kind of a tough question."
Dan Crenshaw, incumbent Republican Representative, loses primary to State Rep. Steve Toth.
"Sometimes we build that harder road for ourselves."
"Really high turnout for Talarico in Latino majority counties...it should be of interest and perhaps concern to Republicans..."
Timestamps: 32:27–35:23
"Using this kind of language like apartheid is going to become normal...it's just untrue."
Timestamps: 40:23–43:17
Supreme Court granted an injunction supporting parents; schools cannot transition students’ genders without parental consent or knowledge.
Mary Katharine Ham (41:19):
"The Supreme Court...prohibits schools in that state from misleading parents about their children's gender presentation and that requires schools to follow parents instructions..."
The hosts frame this as a win for religious and parental rights but warn that such fights shouldn't need to reach the Supreme Court.
Carol Markle (41:19):
"I was told this never happens. ...and yet this is a case that reached all the way to the Supreme Court..."
Concerns about progressive overreach and the importance of parental authority in cultural debates.
On Operational Success:
"Their navy. Not a factor. Pick your adjective. It is no more." – Pete Hegseth (04:56)
On Coalition Building:
"Bringing together coalitions that the world has never seen." – Mary Katharine Ham (06:31)
On Identitarian Politics in Elections:
"She ran an identity and an Instagram account." – Mary Katharine Ham (23:29)
On the Risks of Candidate Extremes:
"Build that harder road for ourselves." – Carol Markle (28:09)
On Parental Rights:
"You got here late. So go to the Supreme Court and try to get your parents rights back." – Mary Katharine Ham (42:31)
This episode provides a vivid, entertaining, and incisive analysis of foreign policy, U.S. military conduct, domestic politics, and evolving legal battles over family rights. The hosts blend in historical perspective and clear explanations, making it essential listening (or reading) for anyone wanting to understand the intersection of geopolitics and U.S. elections in 2026.