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Mary Katherine Hand
Hey, guys. We are back on Normale, the show with normalish takes for when the news gets weird. I am Mary Katherine Hand.
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Carol Markowitz
I am Carol Markowitz. This has been a week. It is a really long week.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Huh.
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Carol Markowitz
And I'm not even like traipsing through the Middle East.
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Mary Katherine Hand
I'm just, we're only halfway through it. It's because it starts, the weeks start on Saturday or Sunday. He starts breaking news.
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Carol Markowitz
Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And then.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, yeah, Donald Trump. Can you let us have some time off? Because this is a lot. It's a lot. And all the time you thought you.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Wanted to switch it up from Biden, but even though we've been through this before, you didn't know how much more you were gonna get.
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Carol Markowitz
Yes. This second term is way more hectic than the first. And I could use some Trump at the golf course days. To be really honest with you. I now see that those are my mental health days.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yes. I have pitched to people who are closer to the White House than I am that he talks so much and he does so many events that if they would just put them on a podcast feed, I would just have that running in my house and folding laundry all the time. So I would actually get to hear everything he says instead of hunting down each individual thing. But that would be, that would be someone's full time job, right? Just ripping Trump audio, putting it on a podcast feed.
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Carol Markowitz
Smart. It'd be the number one listened to podcast in the country. It'd be like Joe Rogan, who, you.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Know, I think he would do well. That's the way to pitch it to him.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Would you like the number one podcast in the country, sir?
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Carol Markowitz
Lots of money.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Oh, my goodness.
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Carol Markowitz
You're going to have to take ad breaks for like relief factor. But other than that.
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Mary Katherine Hand
But yeah, it is a striking contrast to the last president who is. Our first story today.
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Carol Markowitz
Was Joe Biden not doing well during the presidency? I didn't notice.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Well, there's some breaking news. Carol, I'm going to give you about a minute of the NBC Nightly News. Last night.
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Carol Markowitz
Last night. This is 2025.
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Mary Katherine Hand
May 2025. This is the NBC Nightly News. Here we go.
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Gabe Gutierrez
Meanwhile, there are damaging new details tonight.
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Carol Markowitz
About former President Biden. A new book alleges serious concerns about his mental acuity.
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Gabe Gutierrez
Gabe Gutierrez joins us now.
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Carol Markowitz
And Gabe, President Biden's team is now responding to this reporting.
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Gabe Gutierrez
That's right, Lester. According to an excerpt from the new book obtained by NBC News, it was, quote, obvious to many at a fundraiser that then President Biden did not know who George Clooney was, even though they were longtime acquaintances and Clooney is one of the most famous men in the world. The book by journalists Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson goes on to say former President Obama, who was also at the event, had to hop in and finish sentences for Biden during photo ops. In separate excerpts, the authors write that Biden would forget the names of longtime aides and that there were internal discussions about putting the president in a wheelchair in a second term. At the time, the White House publicly defended the president's fitness for office. A Biden spokesperson now says the authors did not fact check the book with them adding, we continue to await anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision or where national security was threatened or where he was unable to do his job. He was a very effective president.
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Carol Markowitz
Breaking Carol, you know, I look at their faces. I'm a poker player and I'm always looking for little tells of when people are lying. Yeah, I can't find that Lester or Gabe are lying in that clip. They really think this is news. I think that they really believe that he was okay. I don't know what else to say. I don't see the lying face on them. I do see it in other people, however.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah, I enjoy the Biden team's assertion that y' all should have fact check that you got to run this by us. Right? Not. I mean, those days are apparently gone now that you're dispensable.
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Carol Markowitz
Well, I don't know about that. Our old friend Brian Stelter tweeted today that Jake Tapper said many of the sources for Original Sin Book wouldn't be candid with us until after the election. And Brian adds, well, sorry. Tapper adds, thus, we now have facts about what was really going on behind the scenes with details about the Democrats wouldn't share with us until after Election Day. They didn't have the facts, Mary Catherine. Nobody told them. The people, you know in the White House didn't tell them.
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Mary Katherine Hand
The next thing NBC Nightly News is going to tell me is that Trump wasn't a Russian plant or that Hunter Biden was not, in fact, an international energy expert and renowned artist. Or that. Or that maybe schools didn't actually need to be closed. All this breaking news that could come to pass. I mean, we are reaching sort of ludicrous levels of media reporting on media, finally noticing what 80% of Americans noticed in 2022. I just, I understand that there are more details now. I also. The details that they're debuting are not the details I want at all.
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Carol Markowitz
I want to know who was running the country.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Thank you. If you have access to these people, I need to know who was the president. That's what I need to know. Not I don't need to know when George Clooney got embarrassed enough about the president that he needed to write an op ed. That's not what I need to know.
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Carol Markowitz
Right. It's funny that him not recognizing George Clooney brought down his presidency. And, you know, I've said this on the show before, but as I get older, I am so bad with faces and names. Like, I just, it's so. I hear you. Joe Biden, who could recognize George Clooney?
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Mary Katherine Hand
So there's a great part, actually in this excerpt that ran in the New Yorker that, that has an aide walking Joe Biden around. And like, this happened a lot is the thing. You could see it with your eyeball. Someone was walking him around. And the way he's walking him around in this retelling of it at this fundraiser where they're raising tens of millions of dollars for this guy to be president for another four years. He's introducing him to folks and he's like going down the lines, I think of her brain hair, thank her brain hair, thank her. And then he says, you know George, right? Like, that's how he introduces him to George Clooney. Because, like, grandpa needs to be reminded who George is and he doesn't know George. Yeah, it's very clear he doesn't know who George is. And then he's like, grandpa George Clooney. And he's like, ah, yeah, George, I know you. It's just all so on the nose. And that's why none of the back covering or like the covering of it now doesn't make up for then. Because every voter could see this, right? You could see it happening. And the reporters themselves on many a network at that event, the one where we saw Obama lead Biden off stage, and we were like, oh, that seems bad. They were like, no, no, no. Cheap fakes fit as a fiddle.
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Carol Markowitz
Fit as a fiddle. Look, they only have two options, right? They were either lying to us or they were blind. So I will accept either one of those that they just completely didn't want to see what was in front of their faces. I only accept that, though, if they admit they're part of a left team, and they are there to protect the group thing. The Democrats. Fine. You didn't see it because you didn't want to see it, because you didn't. You weren't told to see it. It's because you're on squad with the Democrats. That's why. Admit it, and we can all move on from here.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Well, and here's the thing that's very useful to have going on right now. If you're looking for the energy that this press corps can put into a health issue for a politician if they find him inconvenient, please look into the coverage of John Fetterman this week, which, when he was a lefty, that they approved of was, oh, he's so brave for seeking treatment. He'll recover fully. And now that he's inconvenient, we're looking at five, six hit pieces a week on John Fetterman. So that's what it looks like when they want to cover something like this. In this case, I think you're right, Carol, that the groupthink and the demands of being ideological fellow travelers meant that they were like, we're good. We see nothing. And another part of this that I think helped create this situation is that in order to be a good ideological Fellow Traveler in 2020 and 21, when he started his. When he had his campaign and the beginning of his presidency, what'd you have to do? Never see anyone in person.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
So good lib reporters were all like, oh, obviously we can have no access to the President. That's a okay with us. We couldn't be good libs if we didn't. If we were trying to give Grandpa Covid, you know, so they. So they created this environment that in order to be a good lib, you protect Joe Biden. And the way you protect Joe Biden from COVID is also to protect Joe Biden from reporting. Isn't that neat? Isn't that neat?
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah. Unfortunately, they kept that going into, like, 2023 and 2024, and he rarely answered questions, and they didn't seem to mind. It became like, why are you wanting us to ask the President questions? What kind of ideologue are you?
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah, well, and there's the one last part of it, which you're right. They should just say, like, look, this is why we missed it. You should name names of who lied to you if people in the White House were lying to you, because, again, I want to know who was doing that. And then the last part is, you got to apologize for having smeared everyone who didn't make the same mistake.
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Carol Markowitz
That's right. We're not going to get that.
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Mary Katherine Hand
No, but that would be part of the reckoning.
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Carol Markowitz
Right. You know, Alex Thompson, who is the co author on this book, was actually decent on this. He actually was asking whether the president had simply, you know, reached the point where he was too old to run for reelection. He was. But his co author, Jake Tapper, less so. And there's a segment where Jake tears into Lara Trump. And it's funny because yesterday Alex Thompson tweeted clips of Jake Tapper saying, like kind of saying, people are asking whether the president is all there and people are. People are saying that maybe he's not. But what Alex Thompson said was setting aside the Lara Trump segment. Well, you can't set that aside.
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Mary Katherine Hand
I don't know if you can.
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Carol Markowitz
I'm sorry. That's a really big segment where you saw Jake Tapper try to get around the issue and accuse her of lying or spreading falsehoods about Biden's situation.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Well, and the argument in that clip and in many others throughout the years was, it's a stutter. And I'm sorry, it's not. It wasn't a stutter.
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Carol Markowitz
It was never a stutter.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Even if it was less bad in 2020, which would be a mitigating factor a little bit. It wasn't a stutter.
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Carol Markowitz
Right, right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
It just wasn't. You could see him get off Marine One and not know how to walk into his own house. Like that is a problem. And there were plenty of people who were frank about it early.
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Carol Markowitz
Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And should get the plaudits that journalists are now getting for finally answering. Alex Tamsen, by the way, also did actual reporting on, like, the kind of shoes they had put him in and how they were working with his gait. And then I'm just going to reiterate, it doesn't really matter about his gait or whether he was in a wheelchair. If his brain worked and he was able to do the job, he wasn't doing the job.
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Carol Markowitz
Right. You know, I have to find this clip. But like, when he was vice president with Barack Obama. So, you know, this has to be pre2016. He spoke to middle schoolers. Tom Elliott Post Live tweeted it at the time. I don't even think he posted a clip. But he ends up, like, ranting and raving to these middle schoolers about, like, oil companies and like, these just nonsense things that like, no, the children are sitting there like, what are you saying? And this is before Trump's first term. So, yeah, it only got progressively worse from there.
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Mary Katherine Hand
There's one thing that's, like, telling in this piece, in this exc, that maybe they're not truly reckoning with it, is that they put it in Clooney's perspective, but they say Biden gave a rousing State of the Union address in March of 2024. And I'm like, that wasn't good. That wasn't a good. I know our bar is low. Yes. But when he gave that speech, you know, I always say that, like, they found a way to sort of Rasputin him to where he needed to be most of the time. And that was one of the nights where they, like, he was out there, he was shouting. He was doing shout whisper. He was going to a big shout. He was doing the whole thing. And, like, yes, he did say the words, but it was not a good speech. This was not a speech by a guy who you went like, yeah, he needs four more years. And that the idea that we were still sort of being fooled in March of 2024, when a lot of us were like, right, no, no.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
I mean, you bypassed your primary season, but that's not our fault.
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Carol Markowitz
Right. They did that on purpose. I mean, let's be real about that, too. They could not move Kamala Harris off the stage. I don't know how they were planning to do that. It's funny because I, you know, I got stuff right. I like to repost my column from 2022 saying that something's wrong with the president, but I got stuff wrong. I didn't think Biden. Sorry, I didn't think Biden would step down. I didn't think he would not run. Also, I thought, yeah, I thought he would make it to the end. And Buck Sexton, who had the same prediction I did, likes to say we were right. He did run. He just didn't finish the race.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And he didn't. He didn't even really run. Yeah, he didn't even really step down.
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Carol Markowitz
So, like, maybe he knew he stepped down, maybe he didn't. But the thing was that I knew that they could not replace him with Gavin Newsom or. I don't know, there was all these crazy ideas. Michelle Obama, it was going to be Kamala Harris no matter what. And I was like, oh, they're not gonna do that. That's a crazy thing for them to do.
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Mary Katherine Hand
So, yeah, I am enjoying. I am enjoying the debate that they're having. You know, the. The LeBron Jordan goat debate is Always very interesting because they both have. They're both incredible. They're both incredible. I'm a Jordan gal myself.
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Carol Markowitz
They're both Jordan all the way.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And so it's a. It's an interesting debate because you can continue to talk about it forever. This is like that. But worst of all time, because both of them were so bad that they're like, oh, well, she only needed more time. If she'd had more time, I think she would have done worse.
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Carol Markowitz
She needed less time.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And he's like, I totally could have beat him. And I'm like, no, you couldn't. You were much further behind than her. And she's terrible.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah. I still think Biden would have done better than she did. I. I know I do. Because he, despite being not with it and the fact that he was definitely losing it, I think people trusted him and they knew him in a way that they just didn't know her. And I think that's what they mean when they say she needed more time to gain the voters trust. I just don't think she would have.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Because she wasn't capable of it.
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Carol Markowitz
Not capable of it. Right. The whole, like, not going on Joe Rogan wasn't about going on Joe Rogan. She could not talk for two hours. She could not talk for an hour. She could not talk. She couldn't do 40 minutes. Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah.
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Carol Markowitz
She wouldn't be able to do any of that without making some major, major gaffes. So, I mean, I think if she had less time, she had a better shot.
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Mary Katherine Hand
As from a liberal's point of view, just like they, you know, they can't imagine how anyone would ever see Trump as an option. So just from their point of view, if you're arguing about these two.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Just know that she was so bad as vice president that she lost a plausibility contest with Donald Trump.
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Carol Markowitz
Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And that he lied so much about his own condition that he lost a character argument to Donald Trump. That's the answer.
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Carol Markowitz
Here we are. Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah.
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Carol Markowitz
Well, speaking of Donald Trump. Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
They've really got it all together now. I will say I am glad. Even though it's belated and even though it's because Biden is disposable at this point, I do appreciate that there will be more of a record of what went down. I wish it was more in the nitty gritty of who was running the White House and who was running the country. And I hope we get some of that as this process goes on, because unfortunately, the way the situation works is the people who have the access are the ones who get that story. And we do need to know for history what was happening there. And the American people need to not forget that it happened.
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Carol Markowitz
I think I'm waiting for a staffer book. The first staffer book is going to be, I think, a big one. Just because somebody's willing to give us a banger. Yeah, somebody's. Somebody's got to be willing to break that code of silence. They might have trouble working in Democratic politics again, though, so I don't know.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Though, it's not like the Bidens are beloved and Biden ain't gonna help these people out. No, he's got children to pay for.
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Carol Markowitz
Still, it's hard to see them telling the true story, being honest and still getting to hang around Democratic politics. So they have to be willing to take a leap. Come on staffers, do it, do it, do it.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Then I'll have to pay for a Jake Sullivan book.
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Carol Markowitz
Well, we'll be right back on normally.
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Carol Markowitz
Well, the President continues his Middle east tour. I thought he gave a really good speech in Saudi Arabia. I like that speech. I don't know if I'm just hearing things that other people aren't hearing, but I didn't hear an isolationist speech and I certainly didn't hear an anti Israel speech. Two things that I saw mentioned a lot on X. I heard a president say that America will stand with their allies and hopes to make new allies. I'm okay with all that.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah, I'm very open to Donald Trump's philosophies in the Middle east because last time around you got the Abraham Accords, you moved the embassy. What was the thing we were always told, you move the embassy. It's World War 3, right? The embassy can't be in Jerusalem. It's the end of the world. And he does it and it's like. And then it's done.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And it's, it's been there ever since. And it should have been there from the beginning. So when, when he wants to think differently about the Middle East, I am very open to that.
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Carol Markowitz
Totally.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And so. And when he talks to different people, I think he, you know, like we've talked about many times, he loves to be loved. And that is a, that is an issue particularly with royalty. If I love to be loved. And also someone brought a mobile McDonald's around with me while I was on my trip in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, I gotta say I might be wooed. Right, right. I didn't. I did enjoy that. Like the things that you Bojangles hold.
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Carol Markowitz
Out, hold out for bojangles. I mean McDonald's, Marin, Catherine.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Hey, you know, I have a wide variety of food that I would enjoy. So anyway, those are issues. But I do allow for the idea that his weird thinking and outside the box thinking, way different than the diplomatic core in D.C. can be beneficial to the United States of America. I love that Idan Alexander is with his family. He's posting pictures on social media, having beers in public places and loving it. It's a sin that every American doesn't know his name.
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Carol Markowitz
It really is.
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Mary Katherine Hand
That's been a wild thing about post October 7th that Americans trapped by terrorists in a foreign land that attacked our ally. We don't know their names. Regular Americans don't know their names because it just didn't warrant coverage. It's crazy.
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Carol Markowitz
And that's really unacceptable. Yeah, I like that he was released without giving up any terrorists. His point of criticism was in the first deal that Witkoff helped negotiate. I thought he should have been named number one. America First. Guy is America first, so the American should have been out first.
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Mary Katherine Hand
I think Witkoff makes me a little nervous in general.
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Carol Markowitz
He does. He definitely does. I don't trust him necessarily. But like in general on this issue, I'm open. I am willing to be wrong. I want to be wrong. I want him to be this incredible negotiator who fixes all this. Nobody wants peace more than Israel does. So if that's where this is headed, I would love for it to happen for them. You know, we talked about it in the last episode. There was rumor that Idan was going to go to Qatar and meet with Trump there. That didn't happen.
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Mary Katherine Hand
You know, we are glad of that.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, I said that I didn't think that that was going to happen. People commented, they liked that. I pointed out that Israel has a far left media just like we do. And you have to take a lot of things that come out of there with a large grain of salt. Another story last week was that Trump was going to imminently recognize the country of Palestine. That didn't happen. I mean, you just, we have to temper our news intake from there just like we do from here. I will tell you the story that I most loved from Middle east of this trip is Trump flat out saying to Syria, recognize the existence of Israel. Like that's a very Trumpy. Who else does that? Who else does that?
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Mary Katherine Hand
Nobody.
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Carol Markowitz
Guys, I think you should recognize Israel. You know what I mean?
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Mary Katherine Hand
It's wild.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, it's very, very Trump.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah, he's a different creature in these ways. But yeah, I think Trump is a real conundrum because what he does is he talks all the time. He never, almost never leaves anything off the table. So if you ask him about a possibility, it doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is. And this is what the press does sometimes. Doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is or how little he's going to engage in it. He just doesn't want it off the table.
- [28:54]
Carol Markowitz
Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
And he's like, well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say a hundred percent, we wouldn't do that. Like we if nuking the moon is an option, I want it available to me. Right?
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Carol Markowitz
Right. Why would I take nuking the moon off the table? That's crazy.
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Mary Katherine Hand
So, but you, as a result, you and I and the press and people reading the press don't know which parts to take seriously and which parts not. And then the press winding itself up makes it worse for everybody. So we try our best. I think you had some good, good predictions the other day and I'm glad that worked out that way.
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Carol Markowitz
We're going to take a short break and come right back with Normale.
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Mary Katherine Hand
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Carol Markowitz
I think we should turn to the most Important issue of the day. Are sheath dresses maga? Yes. I saw that headline and I was like, oh, God. The New York Times is just crafting articles for me and you to talk about on this show. They're like, we heard the show normally likes to mock this kind of thing. Let us give them some ammunition here.
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Mary Katherine Hand
So this is sweet. Miriam has written into the New York Times for some advice and she says my style can be described as modern minimalist meets classic. I own several sheath dress dresses that fit and flatter, but when I put them on now, they echo what I see as MAGA style. How can I restyle them without sacrificing my aesthetic? It's like, girl, just put on a sheath dress with like a leather jacket. What do you want from us?
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Carol Markowitz
Wear a sheath dress however you want to wear it. And double middle fingers to anybody who doesn't like it. I just, I like, I don't know. There's like, there's so much of this that I just don't understand why people change because of politics.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yes.
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Carol Markowitz
You know, there's the anti Israel protesters use the watermelon to signify that they hate Israel or whatever.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah.
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Carol Markowitz
I'm not, not putting my kids like in a watermelon bathing suit because of that. I don't care what you, what you think.
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Mary Katherine Hand
It's watermelon.
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Carol Markowitz
It's my watermelon. I don't care. Yeah. And I don't understand how they just give up the sheath dress. I wouldn't be like, oh, well, liberals wear sheath dresses. So I'm not going to wear it even though it looks good on me. That's crazy.
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Mary Katherine Hand
I wear a lot of lib clothing. Like I'm, I can be very lib signally in my giant jeans and T shirts on the weekends.
- [34:39]
Carol Markowitz
Right.
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Mary Katherine Hand
It says there's a very specific look associated with women who subscribe to the Trump worldview. One that is sort of a cross between a Fox newscaster and Miss Universe. Thank you very much. It generally involves flowing tresses. They're at least shoulder length. I hit that one, I guess. Just barely. False eyelashes. Don't have those plumped up cheeks and lips. High heels. And as you say, a sheath dress. She says it speaks to an almost cartoonish femininity that speaks to a relatively old fashioned gender stereotype.
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Carol Markowitz
Please. You know, and they put a picture of Lara Trump to illustrate it, by the way. Unreal. In that picture, she looks so good.
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Mary Katherine Hand
That's the thing. So she's got her guns out and they are guns and they look fantastic. And by the way, that's not a traditionally cartoonishly feminine look to have biceps and delta sticking out of your sheath dress. But I happen to like that look.
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Carol Markowitz
She looks great.
- [35:39]
Mary Katherine Hand
Go, Lara. It's just so silly. And by the way, if this were liberals, they would never talk about their looks this way at all, ever. There's a term that the New York Times says has mar a lago face, which is like this way that they all look. But actually, if you the ones that they list as perpetrators of this look, many of them look very different. Like Pam Bondi and Melania look extremely different.
- [36:06]
Carol Markowitz
Totally different.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Pambandi wears a pantsuit all the time. She doesn't wear the sheets dress.
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Carol Markowitz
Right. She doesn't do the jacket dress that Melania pulls off so well. No, that's exactly right. They don't look alike. They only look alike when you're a crazy person writing for the New York Times and the advice that they give to this woman is keep your hair natural or messy, keep your makeup minimal and your heels low. Lady, they're trying to make you look ugly.
- [36:34]
Mary Katherine Hand
They also say, shy away from red, white and blue Look, y' all stop letting us take pretty and patriotic from you. That is not a good move.
- [36:46]
Carol Markowitz
So obvious. But like, they just keep falling for it.
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Mary Katherine Hand
Yeah, just. Just like they did with. We talked about that. That lib streamer, Hasan Piker, who they were like, this guy's good looking. It signals maga. This is a cell phone. Do not engage in this messaging. Have your sheath dress with your. With your guns out and look good. If you're a little lady, go ahead and do it.
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Carol Markowitz
Do it. Goodness gracious, thanks for joining us on normally Normale Ly airs Tuesdays and Thursdays and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get in touch with us@ normallythepodmail.com thanks for listening. And when things get weird, act normally.
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Mary Katherine Hand
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