Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Aug 17 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Sunday Hang | August 17, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively installment of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck mix their trademark intelligence and humor as they dive into debates and banter around music preferences, masculinity in instrument choice, the legacy of action movie stars, the best American cities right now, ice cream flavors, and the state of urban America. While working in listener calls and pop culture talk, they also weave in political undercurrents, their audience’s favorite topics, and moments of self-deprecating fun.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Buck’s Musical Tastes (00:51–03:28)

• Music Preferences: Buck reveals he listens mostly to classical music—Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert—interspersed with EDM and electronic acts like Paul Oakenfold, Rufus Du Sol, and Bob Moses. He links this to his upbringing and describes how he switches music genres depending on his mood.
• Classical Music Advocacy: Buck encourages listeners to incorporate more classical music into their lives:
  • "Just listen to more classical music. I know it seems like such a... just trust me on that one." (02:55 – Buck Sexton)
• Workout Music: He praises EDM and electronic dance as superior workout music.

2. The Flute, Masculinity, and Donald Trump (03:32–06:49)

• Running Gag: Clay's recurring joke about flute playing not being masculine is challenged when Buck references Donald Trump admitting to playing the flute as a child during an interview with Miranda Devine.
• Trump’s Confession (Audio Clip):
  • Trump: "I played like for very short periods of time, the flute... I didn't particularly like it…My mother had me with an instructor coming to teach me how to play the flute. Can you believe that?" (04:20–04:50)
• Clay’s Take: Clay doubles down, humorously suggesting Trump’s masculinity led him to abandon the flute, while referencing Pride Month and Kamala Harris as an adept flute player.
  • "At some point in time, I guarantee you, he thought to himself, blowing into a phallic object that I hold in close proximity to my mouth is not something that I want to do for fun." (04:58 – Clay Travis)
• Buck’s Comeback: Buck declares,
  • "Donald J. Trump, president slash former flute player, a true statement. You now have to handle this, sir." (06:11 – Buck Sexton)
• Clay’s Distinction: He focuses on Trump being a former flute player:
  • "He had tried it. It wasn't for him. He recognized that...He wouldn't have been elected president. I'll tell you this. If he still played the..." (06:36 – Clay Travis)

3. Stallone vs. Schwarzenegger: The Action Movie Debate (07:10–12:09)

• Who’s the Greatest Action Star?: Buck and Clay debate whether Arnold Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone deserves the crown. Buck favors Schwarzenegger, especially for "Predator"; Clay leans toward Stallone, arguing for impact and creative authorship (notably with "Rocky").
  • Buck: "Best action hero of all time is Schwarzenegger." (07:43)
  • Clay: "Stallone, to me, was more involved in creating the action movies that he was in. ...Rocky would not have happened without Stallone." (07:48)
• Best Action Movies:
  • Schwarzenegger: Buck picks "Predator" but admits "T2" is a close contender,
    • "Predator, I think, is the best Schwarzenegger action movie. Although if you say T2, to me, that's a Coke Pepsi." (11:23 – Buck Sexton)
  • Stallone: Clay chooses "Rambo" movies but says "Rocky" is more than just action.
• Nostalgic Aside: Clay recounts meeting Stallone,
  • "When I met Stallone, Stallone said, man, I love everything that you do…When Rocky and Rambo walk up to you and knows who you are and is like hey, we got to get a picture…" (11:56 – Clay Travis)
• Fun Fact: Buck describes behind-the-scenes trivia—Jean Claude Van Damme was the original Predator suit actor.

4. The Fate and Appeal of U.S. Cities (15:17–24:57)

• New York Debate: Buck defends New York City, calling it the greatest American (and world) city, though he admits it’s "on injured reserve" due to current troubles.
  • "I'm not giving up on my NYC because I love it. I love it. It's still the greatest city in America. I would argue the greatest city in the world." (15:17 – Buck Sexton)
• Lord of the Rings Metaphor: Buck compares his hope for NYC to Aragorn’s return to Minas Tirith/Gondor.
• Clay’s Top 5 Pro Sports Cities:
  • 1. Nashville
  • 2. Phoenix
  • 3. Miami
  • 4. Salt Lake City
  • 5. Houston/Dallas (with caveats)
  • Biases: Clay excludes "blue city, blue state" combos, favoring red states/red cities and nice weather.
  • "I'm biased against cold weather locations, and I'm also biased against blue states and blue cities." (20:46 – Clay Travis)
• Buck’s Choices: Miami, Nashville, New York (on "injured reserve"), with shout-outs to Charleston and San Diego, though eliminated by Clay's rules.

5. Ice Cream Flavors – An All-American Debate (21:06–23:46)

• Rich Kid Flavor: Clay jokes about pistachio being a "rich kid" flavor, while Buck contends it's always in top ice cream lists.
  • Buck: "If you look on top 10, top 20 lists, pistachio generally sneaks in there..." (22:10)
  • Clay: "I don't even know that was an ice cream flavor." (22:20)
• Classic Flavors: Buck says the top three are chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry, with Clay contending that cookie dough has surged in popularity and is now a "game changer."
• Homemade Ice Cream: Buck’s wife makes artisan flavors (toasted almond cherry, for example), with Clay praising it lavishly.
  • "This is maybe the best ice cream I’ve ever had." (23:21 – Clay Travis)

6. Listener Calls – Best Cities in America (26:39–29:48)

• San Diego Claims: 'William' from San Diego defends his city as #1, but Clay reiterates his rule: no blue city/blue state pairings for his rankings. Buck thinks Clay’s rules are “too restrictive.”
• Tampa and Orlando: A listener from Tampa touts the area’s sports, but both hosts admit a lack of familiarity with Tampa. Clay prefers Orlando but notes its lack of multiple pro franchises.
• Houston vs. Dallas: Jerry calls out Clay for fence-sitting by including both cities as a tie. Clay picks Houston, citing a dislike for Dallas owner Mark Cuban.
  • "If I have to break the tie, I’m going to pick Houston because Mark Cuban doesn’t live in Houston." (29:25 – Clay Travis)
  • Buck: "I love Houstonians for making us number one in that market…and Michael Barry, the greatest lead in we could have…" (29:35)

7. Greatest Movie of the 21st Century? (25:07–26:16)

• Debate Setup: Buck and Clay agree "best" means a film you love and rewatch, not necessarily the most artistically acclaimed. They tease a more in-depth discussion for the next day.
  • Buck: "Some of these movies I watch 100 times. Like, I just love." (25:48)
• Must-Watch and Not-Must-Watch Films: They cite "Schindler’s List" and "The Pianist" as masterpieces but not rewatchable comfort movies.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Music:

• "I will occasionally go from, you know, listening to Mozart or, or Schubert or Haydn to just switch right over to Paul Oakenfold or something, you know… That’s just the way it goes." (01:13 – Buck Sexton)

Flute Humor:

• "He abandoned it for other things." (06:46 – Clay Travis, on Trump quitting the flute)

On Ice Cream:

• "Pistachio generally sneaks in there around, you know, 18. Bottom of the list." (22:10 – Buck Sexton)
• "I never even know that was an ice cream flavor." (22:20 – Clay Travis)

City Rankings:

• "Nashville is the best city in America in my always humble and unbiased opinion." (18:56 – Clay Travis)
• "I'm biased against cold weather locations, and… against blue states and blue cities." (20:46 – Clay Travis)
• "New York’s on the injured reserve list now. ...It’s the franchise player, but has a strained Achilles." (23:49 – Buck Sexton)

Movie Debate:

• "Best action hero of all time is Schwarzenegger." (07:43 – Buck Sexton)
• "Predator, I think, is the best Schwarzenegger action movie. Although if you say T2, to me, that’s a Coke Pepsi." (11:23 – Buck Sexton)
• "I think Terminator 2… is one of the rare sequels up there with Empire Strikes Back that’s actually better than the original." (11:30 – Clay Travis)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:51–03:28: Buck’s thoughts on EDM, classical music, and personal music habits
• 03:32–06:49: Trump’s secret flute lessons, masculinity and instrument discourse, and Clay’s signature ribbing
• 07:10–12:09: Stallone vs. Schwarzenegger action star debate; best action films
• 15:17–24:57: Discussion of U.S. city rankings, NYC's woes and virtues, Clay and Buck’s top five cities
• 21:06–23:46: Ice cream flavor debate and personal favorites
• 25:07–26:16: The "best movie of the 21st century" debate setup
• 26:39–29:48: Listener calls on best cities; heated defense of city rankings; Houston vs. Dallas showcase

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Overall Tone

The episode is characteristically irreverent, good-naturedly combative, laced with pop culture references, rooted in red/blue state rivalry, and sprinkled with audience interactivity. Clay & Buck are in peak form, blending political worldview with nostalgia, humor, and everyday observations that make for highly entertaining radio.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

EO from Sacramento who listens out on KFBK radio play ee please. My respect for you has gone up a thousand percent. Even more EDM music is the absolute best. I was not expecting to get a shout out for liking electronic dance music, but here we are. I do like edm and I will tell you this, it is the truth. I listen to more classical music than anything else. By far my number one. Well, depends when you catch me. But on my playlists, my number one played artist is always either Mozart or Beethoven over the course of a year. Just, just saying, it's just the way I grew up with classical music, so I'm a big fan. But I do listen to some electronic dance music too. So I will occasionally go from, you know, listening to Mozart or, or Schubert or Haydn to just switch right over to Paul Oakenfold or something, you know, and that's just the way, that's just the way that it goes. But I've got to say, yeah, see, the team knows I've. I switch it up. You know, I like to keep people on their toes. I also, I don't even know what the music is that I like. Like how you would describe this. What, what do you call Rufus Du Sol and, and Bob Moses and what is that genre? I just feel like it's people my age from the, I don't know, from the east coast, like listen to this stuff. I don't know what you. Is it, is it like new? It's not alt and it's not like alternative rock or something. I don't know what do you even call the music I listen to? So. But I gave you a couple bands there that I like that I've been to. I actually took Carey to see Both of those live before we got engaged. So I'm thinking those are the two live, last live shows that I went to for music. But yeah, I should probably go to the symphony sometime down here in Miami. But yeah, edm, electronic dance music, it's fun. It's great for working out too. It's good stuff. Rufus Du Sol is electronic dance. Yeah. So maybe that is EDM then. I guess it sort of falls under that category. So I like that stuff. I grew up around a lot of hip hop music in New York City, was played at all the parties and everything else. I am not a hip hop person. I do not listen to hip hop music anymore and have not for a long time. So, yeah, just getting into a little bit of a music genres discussion today. I do find that it's important to set up a good place in your house where you can listen to music. And I'm just going to tell you, just listen to more classical music. I, I know it seems like such a. Just trust me on that one. Just put it on in the background. Just listen to more classical music.

[Clay Travis]

Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

It's like a lightning bolt out of the clear blue sky. All of a sudden the truth rains down. Courtesy not just of our friend Miranda Devine, who will be with us later on the show today. We're big Miranda Devine fans here, but also the one and only Donald J. Trump. There has been some controversy on this program for quite some time. Mr. Clay Travis out there spewing these absurd, absurd things about the lack of testosterone and masculinity of flute players, the players of flutes, Clay, no less. And here we have Donald Trump sitting down with Miranda Devine. Does anyone know what Donald Trump's childhood instrument was? Play it. Did you ever play an instrument?

[Caller/Listener]

I played like for very short periods of time, the flute. Could you believe they?

[Buck Sexton]

Did you like it?

[Caller/Listener]

I had flute lessons. It's the first person that's ever asked me that crazy question. Yeah, I had flute. Can you believe it? I could have been a flutist and I didn't particularly like it. I don't know, it wasn't for me, but, and my mother had me with. I had instructors, an instructor coming to teach me how to play the flute. Can you believe that? Who would think? I can't imagine an unusual instrument.

[Buck Sexton]

You could maybe still do it.

[Caller/Listener]

I doubt it. I don't think so.

[Buck Sexton]

Make flute playing great again, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

Now, to be clear, I never said you couldn't try to play the flute and then abandoned it as President Trump said because it was not for him, because he is a masculine man. And at some point in time, I guarantee you, he thought to himself, blowing into a phallic object that I hold in close proximity to my mouth is not something that I want to do for fun. Again, it's Pride Month. I'm not saying that some people couldn't decide to do that. I'm just saying most choose not to. And so I'm not surprised that President Trump, as a, as a great cultural experiment, may well have tried several of the wind based instruments but decided that the flute wasn't for him. Now, Kamala Harris, we know quite an adept flute player according to reports. And there's nothing wrong with that. And I'm sure there are other Democrat men. I bet Tim Walls has played a mean flute back in the day. May still. But you know, it's not for me, it's not for most of us out there. I do understand for the flute community, this is a huge.

[Buck Sexton]

They're coming for you right now. Just telling you, the actual woodwind orchestral flute players in our audience, they have had enough of your blasphemy. Clay, let's just, let's just check on the facts here, sir, before you run off and get into the commercial break here. Hold on, hold on a second. Donald J. Trump, president slash former flute player, a true statement. I will say you now have to handle this, sir.

[Clay Travis]

I will say the keyword there is former. He had tried it. It wasn't for him. He recognized that it would destroy. He wouldn't have been elected president. I'll tell you this. If he still played the.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my God.

[Clay Travis]

And he abandoned it. He abandoned it for other things.

[Buck Sexton]

I bet he was pretty good. He's got a good ear, you know, he's very good, very quick on his feet. He probably picks up a tune fast. He was playing, you know, Danny Boy and all kinds of stuff.

[Clay Travis]

I'm gonna ask him about this tomorrow. Why did his mom pick the flute? Why did she bring in flute instructor?

[Buck Sexton]

Because it's so masculine.

[Clay Travis]

Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

Arnold Schwarzenegger, you remember, he was a, quote, Republican. I mean, not really, but he ran as a Republican, was governor of California, and he had a pretty, pretty remarkable run as a bodybuilder and action star. I think probably Clay, can we agree on this? People might fight with us. I think the greatest movie action star, it's either Schwarzenegger or Stallone. You know, this is, you could, this is a little bit like the Jordan LeBron conversation. I think you could make the case for either I still on the body of work. Best action hero of all time is Schwarzenegger.

[Clay Travis]

For me, over Stallone, I would go, Stallone, you go.

[Buck Sexton]

Are you just doing that, though, because.

[Clay Travis]

It'S a better American? Well, I'm factoring in Stallone, to me, was more involved in creating the action movies that he was in. Whatever you think of Stallone, Rocky would not have happened without Stallone.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a sports movie, though. That's not an action movie.

[Clay Travis]

Well, but I, I, I count that as an action movie.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, it's a lot of, like, Adrian, I love you, you know?

[Clay Travis]

Well, I mean, just because it has a, A hec. Romance attributed.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, let's do that. What is the best Stallone action movie? Because I can give you the best. For me, Predator is the best. People would say Terminator 1 or Terminator 2, which I would take as well. But Predator, I think, is the best Schwarzenegger action movie. What is the best Stallone?

[Clay Travis]

It would have to be one of the Rambos, right?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know. Do you think the Rambo movies are that good? You're on your own here, buddy.

[Clay Travis]

There was a major pivot in the Rambo movies for people out there who remember the first Rambo was kind of dark.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Was supposed to die at the end of the original Rambo. Like, it was not a, you know, like, hey, I've got a machine gun and I'm going to kill 800 people movie. And then they were like, we can't kill this guy off at the end. And then by the time you get to Rambo Part two and Rambo Part three, it actually has just turned into he's a consummate badass and nobody can stop him. Right. Like, so I think in terms of great films, the Rocky movies are actually really good films.

[Buck Sexton]

But you're stepping out of the genre.

[Clay Travis]

I get it. But so it's a little bit similar with Rambo, because Rambo 1 is actually. I would call it. People are going to light me up for this. I would actually call it a film. Like, it's actually a decent film. A film.

[Buck Sexton]

You guys don't know this. Clay actually just put on a beret.

[Clay Travis]

I was going to say, I have a studio. I have a beret on, monsieur, and I'm smoking that long out of the holder.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Like, not an actual.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm actually going to be in France next week. I'm going to be telling everybody, you know, that I do the show with Clay. Travis.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

You're the sportsman A politician man. The best by the.

[Clay Travis]

It is a sign of how much everybody loves the culture that Trump has created. That I heart is sending you to can to meet with all the advertisers. Like, we've been on air for four years and now everybody wants to buy ads on this show. And we love all the advertisers. We've had forever, but the world has changed. When Buck's going to be smoking cigarillos in. In. In can with all the. With all the French people.

[Buck Sexton]

Now I'm gonna bring us back to. Because we almost. We haven't even got it. Schwarzenegger is.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, Rainbow is a lot different, is my point.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, yes. Schwarzenegger. This is cut 17. He said he was afraid of being deported. Play it.

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

First of all, let's just be honest. The whole thing has to do with the deportation. Yes, of course. This is a very sensitive subject to me because when I came over to this country, I was living in fear of being deported.

[Clay Travis]

Were you?

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

Yeah, because at one point I did a movie that was so bad that I thought that the critics sent me back to Austria.

[Buck Sexton]

You're stuff, baby. You know, you. You were worried that you were going to be deported for creative reasons. Yes.

[Clay Travis]

That's actually very funny.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

No, I give them credit. So what's your answer, by the way, on Schwarzenegger? Best action movie ever made.

[Buck Sexton]

Predator, which is. Which is a bizarre movie that, by the way, Jean Claude Van Damme was in the original monster alien suit and it was too heavy, so they had to replace Jean Claude Van Damme before he was famous. Who was. I mean, I may have watched the entire behind the scenes making of the Predator movie because I like it that much. John McTiernan, who also did Die Hard, which I still think is probably the.

[Clay Travis]

Best act movie of all time.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. I think we see that one the same way. I would give predator the number one Schwarzenegger movie. Although if you say T2, to me, that's a Coke Pepsi.

[Clay Travis]

I was, I was going to argue Terminator 2 because it is so good. And I know the original Terminator. I think Terminator 2 is one of the rare sequels up there. With Empire Strikes Back that's actually better than the original. Interesting. By the way, I got to. I may also be biased on this because I got to meet Stallone and get my picture taken with him. And when I met Stallone, Stallone said, man, I love everything that you do when Rocky.

[Buck Sexton]

All right. This is totally.

[Clay Travis]

You're totally. You're bought and waiting for in this it's true. So I may be biased, but when Rocky and Rambo walk up to you and knows who you are and is like hey, we got to get a picture which I posted out there.

[Buck Sexton]

Can I tell you what Schwartz Yeager Even though I grew up and this was like my childhood was watching action movies, these guys which probably explains a.

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[Clay Travis]

Sundays with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not giving up on my NYC because I love it. I love it. It's still the greatest city in America. I would argue the greatest city in the world. I know you're gonna get mad at me. You're gonna get mad at me, some of you, but I grew up there. I'm a hometown dog. I still love it. I'm waiting like in Return of the King, Clay. I am Aragorn waiting to come back to what was the name of the city, guys? Producer Greg, you're into nerd stuff like me. What was the name of the. Of the Return of the King city in the Lord of the Rings. You know what I mean?

[Clay Travis]

I don't remember. By the way, I don't even think New York. I don't even think New York City's top five American cities anymore.

[Buck Sexton]

You're killing me, Clay. You're killing me.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, seriously, I don't dislike New York City.

[Buck Sexton]

I just think going through a rough path. It's like New York has gained 10 pounds and needs a shave. But it's still beautiful. It's still beautiful. Ok, so, all right, here we go. I. I'm trying to remember the. I can't believe I can't remember the name of Lord of the Rings city. But it's. That was my Return of the King reference. We do have to talk about greatest movie of the 21st century, I might add. Minas Tirith. Is that right? That was the name of the city. Yeah, I guess that is the name of the city. Thank you, producer Greg.

[Clay Travis]

That is a super nerd pull by producer Greg. I. I had never. I would not get that.

[Buck Sexton]

Producer Greg had My back on that one. I knew he was going to get that one fast. So, yeah, I think that eventually New York is going to be awesome. And I'm going to return. We're going to play the song Return of the Mac, which is one of the greatest, greatest anthems of the 1990s.

[Clay Travis]

That is a great song. We agree on that.

[Buck Sexton]

Fantastic song. And we're all going to. All of us who have fled. Maybe we're not going to move back to New York, but we will go back at some point in the future when sanity reigns. It's a beautiful, wonderful place. It'll be like the golden age under Giuliani slash Bloomberg. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that's going to happen. In the meantime, we got to deal with the madness of Mamdani the Commie. And here he is on. Now, this goes for some of you who are like, buck, it's just this one city, and it's not going to affect me a few things. First of all, New York, California, these are places that have the kind of political poll where if they keep running into huge financial problems, you know what they're gonna want? Federal bailout, which they're not gonna get under Trump. But you don't think they'll get that under a Democrat administration. Clay, you know California's budget deficit this year, something like $30 billion.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah, 30.

[Buck Sexton]

They don't have a. They don't have a printing press in California. They can't just, you know, inflate that away. They're gonna want the federal government to help them out at some point if they keep this madness up. So. And New York's budget's way too big. As I said, 240 Gondor. Thank you, friend. That's Gondor.

[Clay Travis]

What does mean that one makes. Well, I gave producer Greg way too much credit to her. That one I've heard of. I was like the. The name that he came up with. I didn't.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Producer. Producer Greg went like, too deep in the nerdom there. Minus Tyr. I think that's like the Castle or something. I don't think that's actually. Yeah. Gondor. Thank you to one of our listeners for esteemed listeners, for. For hooking me up there. So I think I'll return like Aragorn to Gondor, to New York at some point because it still has a lot of great stuff, essentially. Clay always had. You always have fun when we're in New York. You're being rough.

[Clay Travis]

I actually sketched out my Top five cities in America right now, pro sports cities. Because I don't want people getting mad at me because, you know, like I'm picking.

[Buck Sexton]

You need to have a pro sports team. If you leave out, like, if, you know, like, like Louisville can't count because Louisville doesn't have a sports pro sports team. Is that right? Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I'm just saying, like, at some point you have to decide like a city because I know we have a lot of people who live in smaller towns and I'm not like taking a shot at them. But I think you have to consider the 50 biggest cities in America. For instance, what is your top.

[Buck Sexton]

What is your top five? You heathen. What is your top five?

[Clay Travis]

So number one is Nashville and broader community too, because we have a moron mayor right now. But I'm born and raised. I'm going to be a little bit biased. Nashville is the best city in America in my always humble and unbiased opinion. Phoenix. I've got his number two.

[Buck Sexton]

Phoenix.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, Phoenix is fabulous.

[Buck Sexton]

I've never been so. I can't. I can neither confirm nor deny, but.

[Clay Travis]

I've never been counting suburban areas of these cities too. So like Scottsdale, which I think is an amazing place. Phoenix. I've got Miami, where you live at 3. I really like South Florida, broadly again, South Florida. And then I've got. I really like Salt Lake City. I think Salt Lake City is a jewel underrated.

[Buck Sexton]

Salt Lake City.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah, it's fabulous.

[Buck Sexton]

You're really getting. You're really getting, getting frisky.

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And then.

[Clay Travis]

And then in the five spot, this is where I'm going to be a little bit.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he's just going with places, by the way, where our ratings are through the roof. You got to throw Milwaukee in there just because we get so much Milwaukee love on the ratings.

[Clay Travis]

I love Milwaukee in the summer. I love Traverse City, where I just was the northern Michigan area. I'm not a cold weather guy, so I'm admittedly telling all of you I would not live in these places. I'm being a little bit. A little bit of a coward here, to be fair. And then I've got. Cause these cities hate each other and they have a perpetual rivalry. Houston slash Dallas. Houston slash Dallas. They hate each other. But that would be my five. These are my five biggest, best places. And you'll notice they are all in now again, Arizona voted red.

[Buck Sexton]

We happen to be number one in Houston and have. I see what clay I like. This clay's like, hey, where do we have the largest. Where do we have sports arena sized audiences listening right now? He's like, I love you, Houston. I mean, I love you, Houston too, because so many of you listen. But I don't know enough about the city to put it on my list.

[Clay Travis]

So that'd be my top five. And again, I admit that I am biased against cold weather locations, and I'm also biased against blue states and blue cities. I'm not willing, I would not be willing to live in a blue state, blue city environ right now. I just don't trust the decisions they're making.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I mean, the top five. Five is hard for me. I mean, for me, the top cities in America right now. For me, for me, everyone can disagree. This is, this is like favorite ice cream flavor, which we all know should be pistachio. Unlike Clay.

[Clay Travis]

I don't even know that, like, pistachio is such a rich kid ice cream choice. Like, I don't even know how many average ice cream shops even have pistachio. Like, does. Does Baskin Robbins, 31 Flavors was one of them. Pistachio. I was actually talking about this with my wife the other day.

[Buck Sexton]

First of all, first of all, you make it worse when you say pistachio. Okay, pistachio.

[Clay Travis]

How to pronounce it?

[Buck Sexton]

Pistachio. You know, let's settle down.

[Clay Travis]

I, I was talking about this with my wife because there's tons of ice cream shops now when I was. Because we were talking about, like, you had Dairy Queen, and after Dairy Queen, you would get in the back of some dad's pickup truck and they just drive you or get arrested for that. Now there was hardly any ice cream shops when I was a kid. Growing up, Baskin Robbins was it. Now they're everywhere. We go for ice cream all the time.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, I'm just telling you, if you look on top 10, top 20 lists, pistachio generally sneaks in there around, you know, 18. Bottom of the list. Yeah, something like that.

[Clay Travis]

I don't even know. I never even know that was an ice cream flavor.

[Buck Sexton]

My beloved parents, my wonderful parents love strawberry ice cream.

[Clay Travis]

That's a good choice.

[Buck Sexton]

Just, that's the number three. It goes chocolate, vanilla, strawberry in the.

[Clay Travis]

Rankings for 90% of people. I think they. Now, I would say cookie dough has surged up the rankings that didn't exist when I was a kid. It's. It's really, really good. Cookie dough ice cream is a killer, you know, like game changer app. That's the only real, I would say, flavor that has taken. I bet cookie Dough is like, top six, seven now. And then they have the Superman, which every kid likes.

[Buck Sexton]

I think you're leaving out. As we're going into this holiday weekend, too, we're giving you all these great ideas for ice cream. You know, my wife makes homemade ice cream, which I like to blame for some of my weight gain that occurred a couple years ago.

[Clay Travis]

And I had. I had the ice cream. What flavor did she make that? I was like, this is maybe the best ice cream I've ever had.

[Buck Sexton]

I think she made toasted almond cherry when you were here. I think that's what she made. I don't even.

[Clay Travis]

It was. It's. It's. Legitimately. I told her, I said, this is maybe the best ice cream I've ever had.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, she makes the best ice cream. It's. Once you start making homemade ice cream, it's amazing because you're going to love it. But also, it's dangerous. It's dangerous. All of a sudden, you're just like, this is the best ice cream I've ever had. All right, let's get back to commie mom. Oh, wait, I was going to give you my top cities, Then we'll talk Commie mumdani. For me, it's. It's. I can't even give it an order. New York's on the injured reserve list right now. New York has, like you said, it.

[Clay Travis]

Was still the best. Now you're not even making it number one.

[Buck Sexton]

It's. It's. It's. It's the franchise player, Clay, but has a strained Achilles. You know, it's like. It's like Halliburton or whatever from. From the Pacers. Like strained Achilles or. Or pull the Achilles. New York on injured reserve still in the top five. I have to agree. Nashville is a top five city. Miami, for me, obviously, very high on that list. I have a real soft spot for Charleston, and I always want to say Charleston, slash, doesn't count because they're similar to me.

[Clay Travis]

Doesn't count. See, they're. I'm eliminating it because it doesn't have pro sports. You got to go top 50. So. Yeah, look, Greenville, South Carolina, amazing place.

[Buck Sexton]

No, no, I went rogue there. I forgot. I forgot about the rules. I went rogue, man. I'd have to. I have to think beyond the. Beyond the top three. I have to think about you. Do your list.

[Clay Travis]

I. San Diego.

[Buck Sexton]

San Diego is in California, but San Diego is an awesome city.

[Clay Travis]

It's amazing place, but I'm eliminating blue city in blue states because I don't trust the people running those places, you. I'll go blue city in a red state. Because at least you have the balance of the larger.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, Austin should be. You know, Austin, I think 20 years ago would have definitely been on my top five. But man, the commies have run wild in that place. Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk.

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[Buck Sexton]

Think about the best in your mind. The best movie of the 21st century. By the way, 2000 doesn't count. That's still. That's still 20th century. So Gladiator is out.

[Clay Travis]

So here's the other question. We'll talk about this tomorrow. What do you mean by best? Is it one that you.

[Buck Sexton]

Greatest is actually the designation. And see, I took it as the movie that, that you love the most. That means the most to you. If you're just reviewing it as a. Like, what is the most perfect film?

[Clay Travis]

Like a work of art or something that you could watch.

[Buck Sexton]

No, multiple. I go the sec. I go the second one for this exercise, meaning the one that you. If it's on, you're watching it, you love it. You'll watch it anytime it's on, you think it's fantastic.

[Clay Travis]

So that's the stat. I agree with that categorization. We'll get into that tomorrow.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. Otherwise I'm like, oh, the Pianists, the lives of others. Like, these are amazing films, but you know, you're not going to watch them 100 times. Some of these movies I watch 100 times. Like, I just love.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. Like Schindler's List. You aren't going to be like, oh.

[Buck Sexton]

That'S a perfect example.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

You could say that's the greatest movie. I don't think I know anybody who's seen that movie more than once. It's amazing movie. I just don't know people that have sat through it more than once. It's tough. It's a tough watch just being.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, it's depressing. A lot of great works of art films. Correct. Are not fun.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

Like, they are. Like, you feel worse in some way about the human condition when you finish as opposed to. Like, I watch. I watched the Harry Potter movies with my kids this weekend. I hadn't seen them in a long time. They're really fun and really good. And most of the time you feel pretty good about them by the time they finish.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's take some of these. Some of these. Talk back to some of these calls here, especially because people are yelling at Clay, which is always entertaining. DD William from San Diego listens on KOGO radio. What's up?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Clay. William, here in San Diego, I disagree.

[Buck Sexton]

With your city rankings.

[Caller/Listener]

I think San Diego is number one, America's finest city.

[Clay Travis]

San Diego is fabulous. Buck, here is the challenge on San Diego. And you guys in San Diego can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't trust blue city, Blue state combos. So I eliminated Blue city, Blue State. I'm not willing to.

[Buck Sexton]

I think you have too many restrictions. I think your obstacle course has too much stuff thrown up into it now. Because, look, you got it. Like LA has to be in consideration. You can't just say, oh, LA is not in consideration. It's a blue city and a blue state. Like, I like la.

[Clay Travis]

I've spent a lot of time there. I like San Diego. I'm not Will. These are places that I would live. You can't just rank somewhere on like, oh, I'm going to go there for a weekend. That's different. Like, where's the best place to go for a weekend trip? Where would I live? Where would I raise a family? I'm eliminating blue city, Blue State. I think that's significant.

[Buck Sexton]

HH Don from Tampa listens on WFLA radio. Play it. Okay, now, you have to include the Tampa Bay area. You got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the.

[Clay Travis]

Lightning and the Rays.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, Clay, I, I do not know Tampa well at all. I'm a Floridian who do. Who. I think I've been to Tampa once in my life and I was a kid. I don't really remember it. And as a Miami person, I'm just saying we get a lot of anti. A lot of anti Tampa propaganda floats around Miami. You know what I'm saying? It's a little bit like a Boston, New York thing. But I want to go spend some time there. So I can't. Again, I can't weigh in on the greatness of Tampa. Cause I haven't spent enough time there. But I love our audience there. Cause it is robust.

[Clay Travis]

I don't, I don't dislike Tampa. I like Orlando more than Tampa. And that's, that's going to be a little bit. Look, there are a lot of really nice parts of Orlando now. They only have one pro sports franchise. So I eliminated Orlando from my, my rankings. Tampa's got some really seedy parts.

[Buck Sexton]

I want to get to Jerry and Houston because he's calling out something that I think needs to be called out. Jerry and Houston. Let's hear from him. Yeah, Clay, you need to get off the fence there, brother. Dallas and Houston are two separate cities. You need to pick one or the other. Quit busting bucks chops for not even coming up with five when you added actually six.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you, Jerry. Clay with the ultimate fence sitting. I love the Houston Dallas Metroplex. That's. That's nonsense.

[Clay Travis]

Okay? If I have to pick and break the tie, I'm going to pick Houston because Mark Cuban doesn't live in Houston and Mark Cuban lives in Dallas.

[Buck Sexton]

So I picked Houston because I love Houstonians for making us number one for three hours every day in that market. And Michael Barry, the greatest lead in we could possibly have on that radio station right before us. So that's why I love Houston.

[Clay Travis]

Well, look, I, like, my sister lived in Houston and I was really impressed. People were like, oh, in the comments. They're coming after Houston in my top five. And by the way, Salt Lake City does have two pro sports franchises. They have a hockey team now. So they got the Jazz and they've got the. What I think they call them, like the Utah Hockey Club or something like that. They moved from Phoenix.

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