Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Dec 7 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck – Dec 7, 2025
Date: December 7, 2025
Host: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" blends humor, sharp political commentary, and listener interaction, focusing on contemporary trends in culture, marriage, and—most significantly—the controversy over the new White House ballroom project initiated by Donald Trump. Clay and Buck scrutinize reactions from political opponents, break down the media’s dramatization, and highlight the longer-term value of the White House addition, bringing in perspectives from across the political spectrum, including a notable take from Bill Maher. The episode also touches on relationship advice, state politics, and the hosts’ personal stories, all in their distinctive candid style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Trend of Men Taking Women's Last Names (03:17–06:15)

• Clay Travis expresses strong disapproval of men taking their wives’ last names, suggesting it undermines tradition and masculine identity.
  • “Some men are taking women’s last names now. I think I would disown my sons… I would certainly not pay for the wedding. And I might take him out of the will.” (Clay Travis, 03:27)
• Buck Sexton humorously affirms Clay’s view, referencing public figures possibly doing this.
• The hosts lightly debate the cultural shift and its implications.

2. Engagement Length and Prenup Perspectives (05:02–10:00)

• Buck and Clay joke about prolonged engagements, agreeing that anything over a year is suspect unless exceptional circumstances apply (e.g., military deployment).
  • “If you live in the United States and you are engaged for over a year...something’s up.” (Clay Travis, 05:24)
• Conversation shifts to prenuptial agreements:
  • Buck discusses the viral advice of another James Sexton (a famous divorce attorney) who advocates for universal prenups.
  • Both hosts reveal personal views against prenups unless large family fortunes are involved, emphasizing trust and the unpredictability of life.
    • “I don’t think prenups are the move...unless you’re like a Rockefeller.” (Buck Sexton, 06:24)
  • Clay adds that entering marriage with nothing makes the prenup debate moot and shares his experience of building net worth with his spouse.
    • “I had a negative net worth when I got married...All I would have been doing is spreading out more of the money that I owed.” (Clay Travis, 07:08)

3. Listener Interaction: Praising Texas, State Income Tax, and Sports Bets (27:07–29:40)

• Bob from Houston calls for more Texas appreciation, and the hosts respond by comparing Texas, Florida, and Tennessee as states with no income tax and growing migration appeal.
  • “All three have no state income tax…That’s the big test.” (Clay Travis, 28:14)
• Clay admits owing Sean Hannity hundreds of dollars from lost sports bets, adding humor and camaraderie.
  • “Every time I see [Sean], I’m like, sorry, I just don’t have a lot…I owe him hundreds of dollars.” (Clay Travis, 29:16)

4. White House Ballroom Controversy: The Main Event (14:52–27:03, 35:56–39:15)

Media Freakout and Editorial Backing

• Buck and Clay recount the media and Democrat uproar over Trump’s addition of a ballroom to the White House, contrasting the hysteria with practical analysis.
  • “If you were to veer over to MSNBC, they act like Trump is like silk screening his hair onto the Mona Lisa or something.” (Buck Sexton, 15:14)
• Buck reads from a surprisingly supportive Washington Post editorial, which admits the need for such a facility and criticizes bureaucratic delays that have long prevented progress.
  • “In classic Trump fashion, the president is pursuing a reasonable idea in the most jarring manner possible...The next Democratic president will be happy to have this.” (Washington Post via Buck Sexton, 15:53)
• The White House, Supreme Court, and Capitol are essentially zoning-free, allowing executive decisions on renovations without the bureaucratic obstacles normally present in residential/commercial property projects.
  • “There essentially is no zoning restriction on the White House…The President can just decide that he wants to remodel.” (Clay Travis, 17:58)

Trump’s Builder Mentality and Long Game

• Clay details Trump’s long-standing obsession with fixing the White House’s lack of a proper event venue—dating back to 2010, before his presidency—arguing that the project is a gesture for future generations, not just himself.
  • “What is interesting from a metaphorical perspective…Trump is making decisions for things that he will never benefit [from] personally because he thinks it’s better for the country.” (Clay Travis, 19:33)

Buck and Clay’s Take: Criticism for Criticism’s Sake

• The hosts argue that criticism of the ballroom is rooted purely in “Trump Derangement Syndrome” and not in objective reality.
  • “It’s just another instance of Trump derangement syndrome on full display.” (Buck Sexton, 21:34)
• They highlight Democratic Congressman Swalwell’s post: “Don’t even think of seeking the Democrat nomination for president unless you pledge to take a wrecking ball to the Trump Ballroom on all caps DAY ONE.” (referenced by Clay Travis, 24:12)
• Both hosts assert the ballroom will be a significant, bipartisan asset for presidential administrations to come, increasing security and enhancing state event hosting.

Bill Maher Chimes In (36:54–37:40)

• Bill Maher dismisses the media hysteria and supports the practical value of the ballroom addition:
  • “I don’t give a sh*t that he’s doing this to the White House. I really don’t…This is America…Save your ire for the things that matter.” (Bill Maher, 36:54)
• Buck and Clay praise Maher’s objectivity, noting that honest critics can see the merit of the project.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Clay Travis:
  • “If one of [my sons] came to me and said, Dad, I have decided that I’m going to give up our name…I would say you’re out of the will.” (03:27)
• Buck Sexton (on AOC's fiancé):
  • “He’s gonna spend a lot of time explaining why he took AOC’s last name and why he’s in photos in the background holding her purse.” (04:43)
• Clay Travis:
  • “If you live in the United States and you are engaged for over a year, it is…something’s up.” (05:24)
• Buck Sexton (on White House ballroom):
  • “If you want to freak out about Trump, there’s a lot of things that you could find…but for this, it’s just another instance of Trump derangement syndrome on full display.” (21:34)
• Clay Travis:
  • “[The ballroom is] an incredible gift that Trump is giving to the country. And again, every president for the rest of our lives will be able to use it, no matter what political party they’re in.” (24:12–25:37)
• Bill Maher:
  • “Save your ire for the things that matter.” (37:37)
• Clay Travis (on nudity at home):
  • “If you want to look, you can look. Sorry, construction guys.” (31:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:17–06:15 – Taking Last Names & Wedding Traditions
• 06:15–10:00 – Engagement Length & Prenup Debate
• 14:52–27:03 – White House Ballroom Controversy: Media Coverage, Practicalities, Trump’s Intentions
• 27:07–29:40 – Listener Letters: Texas, State Taxes, and Sports Bets
• 35:56–39:15 – Bill Maher Segment: Media Hysteria & Ballroom Reality Check

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by quick-witted back-and-forth, a casual yet insightful examination of the week’s political foibles, and digressions peppered with humor and personal anecdote. Clay and Buck maintain a tone balancing mockery (especially at media opponents) with earnest commentary about political processes, tradition, and American culture. Both hosts use real-world examples and personal stories to ground their points.

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For New Listeners

This summary delivers a faithful sense of the hosts' blend of humor and political insight, covering the White House ballroom episode, relationship customs, state pride, and on-air camaraderie. Clay and Buck’s ability to dissect hype and focus on substance shines through, especially as they contextualize controversial headlines for their broad, politically engaged audience.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

I read a story about this Buck. You were saying if a woman says I'm not crazy, you know, run in the other direction, she's probably crazy.

Some men are taking women's last names now. I think I would disown my sons. I mean I have three boys. I think if one of them came to me and said, dad, I am getting married and I am taking my new wives last name as my own, I would certainly not pay for the wedding. And I might take him out of the will. I mean that's. Some of you out there might say.

[Buck Sexton]

Which would actually be meaningful for the Travis boys.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just saying Travis boy. I mean I got three wives want.

[Buck Sexton]

The, they want that, you know, that outkick money. They don't want to get cut out of the will.

[Clay Travis]

That would be bad if, if one of them came to me and said, dad, I'm so excited I'm engaged. I said, congratulations. And then they said, and dad, I have decided that I'm going to give up our name. I'm going to give up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's name instead. I would say you're out of the will. So. But this Riley guy, I bet Riley's going to do it. I bet he's going to be okay. Zio Tortez.

[Buck Sexton]

I back. I back you on your assessment of that entirely. And little speed, Jimmy speed. Same rules gonna apply. Can't take the woman's name. But that's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

[Clay Travis]

I mean I can't imagine it happening. But this Riley Roberts guy, he may do it. He's gonna be Riley Ocasio Cortez.

[Buck Sexton]

That, that I would not, not be surprised. He's gonna spend a lot of time explaining why he took Aoc's last name and why he's in photos in the background holding her purse. Nonetheless.

The engagement, April 2022. Been engaged for going on four years.

You know, I'm just.

[Clay Travis]

How long will you engage people do what they do.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't need to call people. My husband and I have been married 50 years and have 10 children and couldn't be happier. We were engaged for 15 years. Like, I don't. There's always. People do things their own way. It works out great in general. Long engagement. Not the right move. Not the right move.

[Clay Travis]

It's.

[Buck Sexton]

There's no reason for that. Well, why?

[Clay Travis]

Anything?

[Buck Sexton]

Already said you want to get married.

[Clay Travis]

Get married, anything more than a year, something's up. Yeah, I just. I don't. The guy is just playing for time. He's waiting to see whether the options are going to get better. If you can't get engaged and married in a year. And look, there are exceptions. Like, yes, maybe your husband is serving overseas and he's unable to come back. Like, I'm talking about if you live in the country, right. And you aren't on an oil rig somewhere in the Arctic, right. And you aren't under deep cover in the Middle east trying to bring down terrorist organizations. All right, I'm giving a couple of. Except if you live in the United States and you are engaged for over a year, it is. It is. Something's up. It's a good advice. I'm just trying to make people's life better. If he's not willing to do that, then. Then something is up. He's just playing for time.

[Buck Sexton]

Where are you on prenups? Because people have been pointing out to me there is another James Sexton out there. Have you seen this guy?

[Clay Travis]

No.

[Buck Sexton]

He's all over the Internet. He's a divorce attorney who shares my legal name, obviously. You all know me as Buck. His name is James Sexton, and he's like the divorce attorney to the stars. And now he's become something of a. Almost a life coach, I think, online for people. And he's trying to tell everybody that every. Everybody, regardless of wealth, should have a prenup, because otherwise the state, meaning, you know, whatever state you live in, has one that they've already made up for you. I. I dis. I disagree. I am not a prenup guy. I mean, I guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here, but unless you're like a. Unless you're like a Rockefeller and you're on wife number two or three, I don't think prenups are the move.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I had a negative net worth when I got married, so all I would have been doing is spreading out more of the money that. That. That basically I owed. And I had a. We Had a negative net worth for a long time early in our marriage, too. I do understand, like, if I had been where I am now and I had never gotten married, I would be skeptical of the world out there in a way that I was not when I was 25 and I got married. So I think partly it's age. And I guess to your point, Buck, if your family is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellers back in the day, like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll talk about in the third hour, maybe you should sit around. The word is, by the way, that Gavin Newsom had a several hundred thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you, despite the fact that he claimed that he was raised with no assets, which we'll play for you in the third hour.

I think you have to be really wealthy to even think about a, a prenup. To me now, everyone, I, I, maybe it's easy to do a prenup if neither one of you have anything. Maybe it's not that much of a fight.

And so maybe that's what he's kind of getting at is basically just presumption that the marital union might end. And so if you already have made decisions that are rational, but life circumstances change so much. I mean, if you don't have kids and you get divorced, to me that's not, I understand it's like, not ideal to get divorced, but if you don't have kids, your divorce is more like a breakup than it is. There's not a child or the other James Sexton.

[Buck Sexton]

If you go on Instagram or on TikTok, he's, he's every, there's like, I mean, maybe he's the most famous Sexton out there now. Who knows? But he says you break it down into yours, mine, communal, marital property, and you just start from there. I, look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate for it, but I'm, I think it's interesting that now this is becoming.

This is growing as a thing before people get married, even when they, this is specifically, he's saying for people, because you don't know. And so set it up now, because you can't set it up after the fact. I mean, there's a scene, I think, you know, Donald and Ivana, they had a prenup, and that was part of one of these movies or whatever. They were negotiating their prenup. And I do believe there was a, there was a prenup there, but that's because he's a Trump and he's got a Massive fortune. And then you get into the company, you know, the family business, you know, how do you split up some of these things? And some, it does get very complicated very quickly. So. Yeah, I don't know. I just, just put it out there. I just wanted to point out there's another James Sexton, which is.

[Clay Travis]

There's also a lot of, a lot of relationship advice that has been given in this segment. All of which I would point out is flawless in general.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, and our wives know that. Both of us, Clay and Buck respectively, according to their wives, flawless when it comes to relationships.

[Clay Travis]

That's exactly right.

[Buck Sexton]

Have, have all the answers.

[Clay Travis]

Perfect husbands, as I'm regularly referred to, frankly.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I know.

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So we tell you things here because they're true and because we believe them. And then it's, it's fun to see how even our ideological enemies will often have to say, you know, that thing that Clay and Buck, among others have been telling you, particularly about anything Trump related, that thing that they've been telling you is true.

[Clay Travis]

It actually is true.

[Buck Sexton]

Like they're not just saying it because they're saying it because it reflects reality. It is accurate, it is honest, it is necessary. And a great example of this is how we've been saying this Trump Ballroom East Wing demolition situation, which if you, if you were to veer over to msnbc, they act like Trump is like silk screening his hair onto the Mona Lisa or something. I mean, they are so freaked out about this. Like, oh my gosh, the history, the history of America, they're all so upset.

But the reality is this is a good idea and the design looks good and this is for future presidencies and they will be happy to have it. This from the Washington Post, which is occasionally, I think so that Jeff Bezos doesn't just turn it into like a big, you know, cooking channel or something. Occasionally tries to be rational. Clay, I'm going to read from some of this is from the editorial board. This is not from one person. This is the editorial board. Read you some of this editorial then. Clay, I want you to react, okay, Quote, in classic Trump fashion, the president is pursuing a reasonable idea in the most jarring manner possible. Privately, many alumni of the Biden and Obama White Houses acknowledge the long overdue need for an event space like what Trump is creating. It is absurd that tents need to be erected on the South Lawn for state dinners and VIPs are forced to use porta Potties. The State dining room seats 140, the East Room 200. Trump says the ballroom at the center of his 90,000 square foot addition will accommodate 999 guests. The next Democratic president will be happy to have this one more thing. Preservationists express horror that Trump did not submit his plans to their scrutiny. But the truth is that this project would not have gotten done, certainly not during his term, if he had gone through a traditional review process. The blueprints would have been faced by death by a thousand paper cuts. End Quote, clay, as we have been saying, this is sensible. It looks like it is being well designed and well executed. And, and the people that are saying, but, but the process, the process, the process to get this done would be insane. And it would take a decade to build this freaking ballroom. And Trump is getting it done in Trump fashion, which means right away there.

[Clay Travis]

Is a big article, and I, maybe the team can look up to make sure which newspaper it is, because I again, read them every morning, so you don't have to in either the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times, which goes into in earnest how this came to be. And basically the biggest takeaway is there essentially is no zoning restriction on the White House. So for all of you out there that have ever built anything, typically there are community boards, there are cities, there are states. I mean, sadly, California is a perfect example of this, because almost no one whose home was burned down in the LA fires has yet been able to get a permit to be able to start rebuilding. And what the article points out is that I believe it's the White House, the Supreme Court, and it's the Capitol Building are essentially zoning free, and the President can just decide that he wants to remodel. And Trump saw all this, couldn't believe it, and said, okay, well, let's do it. I mean, he's a builder. And the article says that as all the way back at 2010, Buck, he called unsolicited David Axelrod. They said that Mina Brzezinski gave Trump David Axelrod's phone number. He was the Obama chief of staff, I think. And Trump called in 2010 and told David Axelrod this ballroom situation. Well, imagine when he was just a reality television star before he'd gotten into politics, he said, look, the ballroom situation is a disgrace. There's no way you should have to be tenting the South Lawn to be able to host big events. He said, I want to build a ballroom for Obama. Back then, he just said, for the country. He said, I build beautiful ballrooms. You can come down and check it out at Mar a Lago. And this is something that he's been obsessed with now for 15 years. And to me, what is interesting from a metaphorical perspective, and this is what drives people crazy, is Trump is making decisions to a large extent for things that he will never benefit for personally because he thinks it's better for the country. And this is what oftentimes builders do. I wrote about it quite a lot in my. In my new book, but when I was at Bedminster most recently, when I went with Trump to the NCAA wrestling tournament. Trump was right around his golf cart, picking locations for new trees on Bedminster. It's a beautiful golf course out there. Some of you have had the opportunity to play it in New Jersey. He's not going. The thing I love about trees, my wife makes fun of me for how much I like trees, is if you ever have been on a property which has beautifully laid out trees, perfect lane or an entrance to a home, trees are left for the next generations, typically, not for the individuals who plant them, because it takes so long for the trees to grow. It's an effort to try to make the world more beautiful after you're gone. And Trump with this ballroom, also with Air Force One, frankly, he's not really going to benefit much himself. He just wants for the United States to have a majestic venue that befits the majesty of this country. And he's basically bequeathing it to the nation, even though for most of the time he's going to be gone. And when it's being used by Democrat Republicans or parties we don't even know of in the years ahead, this is.

[Buck Sexton]

Just another, I know it's the thousandth, the millionth example of this, but it's so childish and just so exhausting to be on the other side of the childishness that whatever Trump does, we have to say it's horrible. You know, whatever Trump does, the Washington Democrat media and the Democrat machinery in politics and the left and the progressives and the, they all, oh, my God, it's so terrible what Trump is doing. He's doing something with private money that will look great, that will be great for the White House currently and future. That makes sense to anybody who understands the current situation of the White House. And all you'd have to do is sit there and think this through for a second. You know, if you want to freak out about Trump, there's a lot of things that you could find where at least I get, you know, how they're making an argument about it, or I get why it bothers them so much. But for this, it's just another instance of Trump derangement syndrome on full display. The Washington Post editorial I think it's because at some level they recognize that people who know about this White House are starting to make this argument. And, you know, when you have former Obama staffers who are saying, yeah, it's a pretty good idea, if that gets out, a lot of people on msnbc, the people on Morning Joe who are acting like Trump is, is bulldozing the Louvre. They got the guys, by the way.

[Clay Travis]

We should probably update that maybe. Well, I haven't seen that they officially, officially got the guys yet. I mean, I know they made arrests, but they haven't seen.

[Buck Sexton]

Do we think it was the guy in the photo who looks like the fancy French detective? You know that photo? Like Inspector Clouseau? No, but I'm, There's a, there's a. That's not really Inspector Clouseau. There's a guy who, when they. In the. You know what I'm talking about. There was a. Taken outside the Louvre. Oh, there's some guy who's a French detective who looks like. If you were casting a French detective.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Unless this is AI Guys.

[Clay Travis]

See, I don't know. I don't know what the.

[Buck Sexton]

You cannot get mad at us about AI because these, some of these photos now with the AI you're gonna have a really good eye and you'll miss it. So maybe that's what I'm thinking of on the ballroom.

[Clay Travis]

Did you see that? Swalwell tweeted. This is Congressman Swalwell from California, he of the Fang Fang dalliance. Chinese spy. Don't even think of seeking the Democrat nomination for president unless you pledge to take a wrecking ball to the Trump Ballroom on all caps day one.

I just. Is he actually this dumb? Well, I mean, the ballroom is going to be a phenomenal edifice for all parties to be able to host. I might mention also buck in. I would imagine a much safer way. I can't imagine that having tents on the South Lawn is an ideal security mechanism for all of the heads of state, to say nothing of the difficulty associated with it. And again, Trump has been trying to get this done since before he was a politician. Fifteen years ago, he called up when Obama was in office and said, hey, let me build a really great ballroom for the country. And now this just comes back to. He's just trying to solve as many problems as he possibly can in what is going to be a relatively short four year term. And he's a builder. I think you can criticize him for a lot. You've been in the Mar A Lago Ballroom? I've been. We did shows from basically there. It's a spectacular hosting event location. This is an incredible gift that Trump is giving to the country. And again, every president for the rest of our lives will be able to use it, no matter what political party they're in for the betterment of the overall hosting facilities at the White House. It's just A no brainer.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. You would think the Democrats would be so excited that now they will have a massive White House venue to host Drag Queen Story Hour. You know, like you would think that they would see that this will soon be the shoe, so to speak, will be on the other foot and that they would be in a position to use this for their own purposes and that it makes a lot of sense and it's a smart thing to do and it's good for security as well, which you and I have pointed out. Much better than having a tent on the lawn. That's not something that you really want to continue to mess around with. So it makes sense in every respect. But Democrats hated it because Trump was doing it. But now they're having to figure out that like so many things that Trump has done that they hated, they just hated it because Trump was doing it. And maybe, just maybe they should grow up and pick and choose their battles and say, hmm, nice. The guy who's famous for building incredible towers, incredible buildings all over the world, the golf courses, all this stuff, maybe he knows what he's doing on this one like he does on a whole bunch of other things. You know, they could take a deep breath, but they're not there yet. Eventually, Clay, when we get it, when we get past the midterms and we start seeing them, we start talking about whether it's going to be the Vance Rubio ticket. This is where they'll start to say things, they'll mutter under their breath and then louder and louder over time. Wow. That thing Trump did was actually pretty good. You know, it kind of made some sense. You know, then, then the truth will be able to be said about some of these things, like the ballroom, which is coming along very well.

[Clay Travis]

Sundays with Clay and Buck.

Bob from Houston. I actually gave Houston a shout out yesterday, but Bob says we don't talk enough about how nice Texas is.

[Buck Sexton]

BB Now, Clay and Buck, I understand why you give Tennessee and Florida all the love in the world. And of course, Sean Hannity gives a lot of love to Florida as well. And all the information, very good reasons. I know why. Okay, so when are you ever going to mention how awesome and great Texas is to move to as well? I love H Town. I love the greater, the greater Houston area is really thriving. It's becoming so big and massive. It's going to be better and bigger than New York. Get out there.

[Clay Travis]

We love Houston. We love Texas.

[Buck Sexton]

It's fair. We, we. I try to throw in the throw to the mix. The Texas is great. Too. But, Clay, I think that Texas has always been the red sanctuary for, you know, it's like, if you want to go red, you've known Florida has become red under Ron DeSantis and part of the post Covid revolution, freedom revolution here. And then Tennessee, I just think, has become more of a national destination.

[Clay Travis]

I. Yeah, I think that's all true. I try to say Texas, Tennessee, and Florida because all three have no state income tax, so. Well, that's the big.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the big test. By the way, if you're the real deal, you should have no say. I've talked to other red state governors about this, and they wish they could join, but it's very hard to get those entrenched interests once they get used to those tax dollars to get rid of.

[Clay Travis]

That's exactly right. Phoenix, K, F, Y. I also love the state of Arizona. Great place. Yeah. This is true. But listen to her. Hey, Clay was listening to Hannity the.

[Guest or Co-host (possibly female)]

Other day, and he said that he's.

[Clay Travis]

Made several bets with you and you haven't paid up at all. Can you comment? I owe Sean a lot of money. It's true. I mean, they can play. They can play it on Hannity. I owe Sean hundreds of dollars. I think he's won every sports bet with me, and it's convened. Convenient. I don't carry a lot of cash.

[Buck Sexton]

How do I not know this? Sean Hannity is smoking the outkick guy when it comes to sports betting.

[Clay Travis]

I've lost a lot of bets with Sean. I owe him hundreds of dollars. And it's. It is funny. Every time I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just don't have a lot. I do not typically carry a lot of cash, but he. He's not. He's not lying when he says that I owe him and that. That so far I haven't paid him. I gotta.

[Buck Sexton]

I think you should have to, like, join him in their New York City studio next time you're in New York and pay up on air. Clay.

[Clay Travis]

I'd be happy to do that.

[Buck Sexton]

Make amends.

[Clay Travis]

He's dodging New York City like you are, though. Now he's got his studio down in Florida. He's. He's a Floridian now, Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. Oh, yeah, this. We got a lot of reactions to this, I bet.

[Podcast Announcer]

Okay, Clay, I watched your video when you were showing us your rooftop pool with a view of your ground level pool, and now all I can picture is you just sunning naked, you know, on your rooftop, and then meandering down to your ground level naked. Just. It's too late for me. Everyone run. Save yourself.

[Clay Travis]

Look what I say.

[Buck Sexton]

We got audience members picturing you naked, buddy. That's the real takeaway.

[Clay Travis]

Here's the deal. I did not say that I'm like a male stripper or something. I said that we don't have window shades or treatments or whatever the hell these things are called in the master bedroom yet. And there is a builder across the way. And so my wife will regularly, like, I take a shower and then I just go get underwear, go get dressed. And I don't really worry about, like, if the construction guys are looking at me because I'm a guy, like, what do I care about? And my wife is always like, my God, you can't walk. You can't do this. And my argument is women think about nudity very different than men because the women's body is pursued. People try to see it naked. Nobody wants to see me naked.

[Commercial Narrator]

I'm not.

[Clay Travis]

If you want to look, you can look. Sorry, construction guys.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

We call balls and strikes here based on reality. It's one of the these days, I would say unique selling propositions of this show is that we just see things that are happening and say what we think or what we know to be true about those things. And that is in short supply these days in a lot of places in the media. And that includes the completely manufactured freakout about the Trump Ballroom situation where there was a whole week of news cycle where people are like, oh my gosh, he's destroying all the history of the White House. It's terrible. And anybody who actually knows the White House is like, well, it's kind of a dingy area that he was getting rid of and they actually need to do something here. And none other than Mr. Bill Maher who does come hang out with us in Sanityville sometimes, always. Well, everyone's always welcome in Sanityville. Here he is saying, look the freak out over the Trump Ballroom. That was just nonsense. It's actually a good idea. Place seven.

[Bill Maher]

I don't give a. I really don't give a. I was reading. It shows you like how the media is. Everything is always on one side or the other. When he first mentioned it, it was like all about, oh my God, he's desecrating the White House. Then I finally read, oh well, you know, they've done to the White House before. It's just a building. I think also like I realized after reading other people we don't have a place when they have state dinners. They're doing it in a tent. This is America. So do I give a sh t that he's doing this to the White House? I really don't.

[Buck Sexton]

Look, you raise your money privately.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And it's private money, you know, and if Newsom wants to knock it down when he's president, then he can knock it down.

[Commercial Narrator]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

Get save your ire for the things that matter.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, that was Uncle Bill there. He'll be with us on Thursday. By the way, he had a very strong appearance on, on Bill Marsh Show. Bill O'Reilly, I always enjoy talking to Uncle Bill, but he was weighing in there at the end. But Clay, anybody who's looking at the situation of the ballroom honestly would say, yeah, actually this is going to be great for future administrations, too. This is a smart thing to do objectively.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And look, I mean, if you're a history person, there have been so many adjustments made, so many renovations made to the White House over the years. The Truman Balcony and everything that Harry Truman did, he basically took the White House down to the studs. And what Trump is trying to do here is going to benefit every administration for a long time to come. And I would think just purely from a security aspect, when you consider all of the heads of state having to come in and out, the difficulties associated with tinting the lawn and everything that that builds around it, this is just a no brainer. And Trump is, has decided basically that in a relatively short period of time, he's going to address everything. He's just going to find problems and he's going to solve them. I think he was impressed to find out that somehow there's not major zoning restrictions on the White House because as a builder, one of the most frustrating things you have to deal with is all the different regulatory approvals you and he just jumped right in and said, hey, I'm going to solve this once and for all.

[Podcast Announcer]

10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points.

You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Clay Travis]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Podcast Announcer]

Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down. This is Trainer Games.

[Clay Travis]

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