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Selena Gomez
Google has announced Clay. You see this? They're updating the names of two geographical regions in response. So it's going to be the Gulf of America. Clay pretty much owns property on the Gulf of America. I do. You know he's A Gulf of America resident. Yeah. And also Mountain Denali is going to be called McKinley again, according to Google. I gotta say, I like this. I know some people think, oh, what difference does it really make? I'm into it, actually. I also like that Greenland is freaking out and rather Denmark is freaking out about Greenland, which is very amusing, I think.
Clay Travis
The amount of Gulf of America T shirts that will be sold, I'm telling you, on Panama City Beach, July 4th, on Destin, Florida, my area of 30A, any of you that have ever been Orange Beach, Alabama, which is right there, Pensacola, any of you that have ever been Mobile, down along the Gulf coast of the United States, now, the Gulf of America, I'm telling you, it is going to be. Some of these shirts that you're going to see for July 4th and Memorial Day, but particularly for July 4th, are going to be incredible. I'm already giddy thinking about, thinking about what I'm going to be wearing on July 4th as I celebrate likely on the Gulf of America. Also, Buck, Gulf of America got smoked with a snowstorm, which has never happened before. New Orleans got like 8 inches of snow. Pensacola, Florida got 7 inches of snow. The white sand beaches of the Gulf of America were covered in snow. I've never seen anything like. Was pretty awesome. I know we mentioned it a little bit last week, but I did think it was funny that Trump renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America and then immediately the biggest Snowstorm in like 75 years arrived. So he beat global warming, too, I guess. Sunday, hang with Clay and Buck. We got fun reaction. Clip here from Mike. He's listening out in Denver at Freedom 93.7 KDFD. And we were talking about sequels and how rare it is that they're better. In particular that Trump is polling at a higher rate right now than he ever has in the history of his presidency. And Mike wanted to weigh in.
Selena Gomez
Listen, Clay and Buck, you are, of.
Clay Travis
Course excluding the Empire Strikes back and Godfather 2 from the sequels that are not better than the originals. Wait, we said we were talking about Gladiator.
Selena Gomez
I think he means the Godfather 2 and the Empire Strikes Back are better than the original.
Clay Travis
That's what he's trying to say. Yes.
Selena Gomez
Yeah.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Selena Gomez
Yeah. No, no, we didn't. We weren't excluding anything. I was just trying to rip on Clay for being far too favorable to Gladiator 2 for my liking. But that's.
Clay Travis
It is the case, as a general rule, that sequels are usually drastically inferior than the original. But there are exceptions like Godfather 2 and, and also, Terminator 2 Strikes Back.
Selena Gomez
Terminator 2, I would say is a great trilogy, is a little different because especially some trilogies are really a series of books, for example. Or you look at something like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom as the. That's actually the first of prequel, but.
Clay Travis
It comes out chronologically afterwards. Yeah, but I think it's the weakest of the three, even though it's really good as well. I would say all three of those are good. I'm Last Crusade is better than Raiders of the Lost Ark person. Some of you agree, disagree. I think, I think the trilogy is actually the best.
Selena Gomez
I think that's probably right. I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. I will say. But yes, there are certainly some sequels that are better. But for a presidency, it's. It's amazing. I mean, this is the T2, the Terminator 2 of presidencies, if you will. This is like, you know, box office smash, huge opening weekend, really big cultural impact. And it, we're just one week into it as well. So I'm expecting great things.
Clay Travis
Sundays with Clay and Buck. We mentioned that the Trump deportations, which is rapidly underway. Illegal, violent criminals being arrested all over the country and sent back to their home countries. And we said, hey, you should prepare yourself for a pushback and it will be an emotional one. It won't be a logical one because if you engage in this issue in any way in a logical fashion, what's the argument against deporting illegals who are committing violent acts here? It's one of the easiest decisions out there. But when you talk about emotions, people often don't respond in a coherent fashion. I want to play this for you because it has gone mega viral and it is an example of what I think you should prepare yourself for. Also, I think Republicans need to have still spines here. Steel spines do not allow these emotional appeals to impact what is the logical and right choice. But here is Selena Gomez, actress. What is she in? Buck, Was she in Wicked?
Selena Gomez
I think you're asking the wrong guy, Clay.
Clay Travis
She's in Amelia Perez right now. I understand, but wasn't she also. Is that Ariana Grande? I'm going to be honest, I kind of get those two mixed up. But Ariana was in Wicked. Sorry for being racist. Here is Selena Gomez complaining about illegals being taken out of the country. Just wanted to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. Children, they don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't I don't know what to do. I'll try everything, I promise. All right, Selena Gomez crying there, Buck. Can we adopt as a preliminary, if you take a video of yourself crying by yourself and then choose to post it, that's kind of a weird thing to do, right? Like there's nobody else around. You're sitting in your kitchen, you record yourself crying, and then you decide to post it. Now, she since deleted this video, but it has gone mega viral. Lots of people are reacting. There are going to be a lot of these. But what's your take?
Selena Gomez
Well, one thing I find interesting beyond just Selena Gomez here is that anyone thinks that anyone cares about actors or entertainers anymore and what they think about politics, I think that that has changed dramatically. I think that the, the era of, oh, you know, the. Remember the George Clooney op ed about, like, how Biden should step down? That worked out great. This is, this is a time when people are waking up more and more to the fact that a lot of entertainers are really ignorant and really narcissistic and dumb and you shouldn't listen to them about anything. So that's one part of this, right? This is a person who doesn't know anything about the immigration laws we're talking about, doesn't understand what the broader issues are. But then also she says, I mean, she's an American, right? I don't know almost nothing about her. I assume she's an American citizen because she says, my people. And to that I just wonder, what does that mean? Because if you're an American, your people are the American people, right? Unless all of a sudden we're to think that she has a kind of Hispanic solidarity or something like that. Where is that coming from?
Clay Travis
Right?
Selena Gomez
I mean, she says, my people. Well, your people are Americans. Your people aren't actually illegals who are being deported. Why does she refer to them as her people? That would be another question that I have from this. Beyond the obvious, you know, she's emotionally unstable and no surprise there.
Clay Travis
Yeah, that's. That's a great point. I think she was a Disney child actress. And I, as you heard me on the show, I've always been unable to distinguish, like, she and Ariana Grande are basically the same person to me. So I don't know particularly about their backgrounds. Was this the one that dated Bieber or not? Or did he date both of them? That's primarily how I know them. She did. I'm right about that. She did date Bieber. All right, look at.
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Am I the only Pop culture knowledge. Just lay it out.
Clay Travis
So Bieber dodged a bullet there. I don't know if I'm the only person who can't. Was Ariana Grande also a Disney child actor, too? Are these. Are these girls feud against each other? They're basically the same person to me. Like pixie, meaning small. Like singer, actress who came from the Disney World universe. And I do wonder, though, she deleted it. Whatever. Let me just say this because I'm going to tee off on her on multiple different angles here. If you have a take, own it. You can't delete your take. Like, I think she's a moron for this perspective. She didn't make a video crying over Lake and Riley. She didn't make a video crying over Jocelyn Nungarh. All of these innocent people who are dead because criminal illegal aliens killed them in this country. And people say, well, people get killed. That's the argument. This is actually the argument. 11. Well, people get killed all the time. Yeah, but if they're illegally here in the first place, they should have never happened. And by the way, I wish we had no murder. I wish there was no violent crime. All right, that's a bold stand.
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It's a bold stand from Clay. I wish murder was zero.
Clay Travis
I don't want anybody to get killed. That's a very bold stand from me. The goal is to have as few murders as possible. And if one way you could have fewer murders is by not allowing people who murder to illegally enter the country, that seems like a rational choice to me. So she posted this video and then she deleted it. So what is her thought? I think your point on, these are my people. She's an American. Are Jocelyn Nungary and Lake and Riley not her people? Because those are the people that I care about. I care about other Americans first and foremost. So the fact that she deleted it means that she's not even standing behind this. So now she's gonna. She's gonna manage to create a situation where majorities of people think she's a moron. And then even the people who don't think she's a moron are going to be like, well, why'd you delete it?
Selena Gomez
Well, I think she probably deleted it because her managers or agent or whatever said, what are you doing? Don't get involved in this right now.
Clay Travis
I get it. But once you post the video, this is a good lesson. I tell my kids this all the time, too. Deleting something that you post on social media doesn't eliminate it. And in many ways, buck to Me, it actually draws more attention to it because it suggests that you wish you hadn't posted it in the first place. So this idea of, oh, I posted something, but I deleted it. No, you can't. Nothing ever vanishes on the Internet like it's there forever. Deleting it just makes you look like even more of a moron than you already did. So I'm anti deletion here.
Selena Gomez
You're anti deletion. And I think we.
Clay Travis
I think Pro no murders.
Selena Gomez
Yeah, Pro no murders. Very good. Well done on that one. And I think that Selena Gomez, yes. Her opinion on. On immigration is not something that anyone particularly cares about. And I think she recognized that a little bit too late. But for a lot of people, here's what I will say you can expect, Clay, there'll be a lot of people who have for years now used social media, political stances as a way to get attention and maybe even at some level build audience. They are. Their drug is missing right now. You know, they're addicts for attention and their drug is missing on social media. And what they'll latch onto is this. They're going to start if the deportations. Remember, it's not just that they will continue. It's that they're going to escalate dramatically. That is what Trump has promised. That is what Tom Homan has said is going to happen. So if that happens, you will see a lot of the virtue signaling libs instead of Russia collusion or threats to democracy or whatever it's going to be. This is un American. We're deporting all these people. It's so mean. It's. This is going to become the thing that idiot celebrities want to talk about.
Clay Travis
Which is why everybody has to have a steel spine on this, because they're going to be all these emotional videos. First one I've seen. And I hope that what happens to Selena Gomez, frankly, is the market responds to this like the market responded. You remember woke Snow White. I don't even remember Rachel Ziegfeld or something like that, whatever her name is. They haven't released that movie yet. Remember the woke Snow White, like the live action Snow White, the Rachel, whatever her name is. That is so woke that, like, Snow White was not gonna be the. I think they also kissed and saved.
Selena Gomez
I think they also. Yeah, Snow. Snow White was a. Was a boss babe who was like getting it done in the office. Yeah. You know, so I think they also decided they weren't going to use actual dwarves because they thought it was discriminatory, demeaning. And discriminatory. And then people who are dwarves were like, excuse me, this is a great opportunity. You know, people in the community.
Clay Travis
That's the greatest acting opportunity of the dwarf community's life. Only small people can play these roles. These are actual dwarves. And then they took it away and they had full size people. It's amazing.
Selena Gomez
Full size people. Yeah. This is, this is what ends up happening when, you know, you play woke games, you get woke prizes. It's not good.
Clay Travis
What's his name? Who is the Tyrion?
Selena Gomez
Peter Dinklage.
Clay Travis
Peter Dinklage, greatest little man actor of all time. He's probably, surely he's one of the dwarves, right? I mean, that would be like, you know, starting a basketball team back in the day and not trying to get Michael Jordan to play for it, like he's the Michael Jordan of dwarf actors. But the fact that they put tall people in the role of dwarves, thereby destroying the only real opportunity most dwarves had to ever make a living as an actor, is a perfect illustration of how broken and stupid all of these people are. Rachel Zegler woke Snow White. She remember she ripped Trump voters and then posted a follow up video where she was like, sorry, I didn't mean it like what I mean, I, I just. So many of these people are morons. And yes, I love seeing them expose themselves. Step into the world of power, loyalty and luck. I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse with family.
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Sunday drop with Clay and Buck proving how adept they are at responding to the narrative of the day. Tom Homan, who is in the process of deporting thousands of violent criminals from this country, also locking down the border, was just on Fox News, I believe, talking with Sandra Smith of Fox News about Selena Gomez crying video claiming that the Trump administration is deporting her people. Let me mention this Buck our team researched. Selena Gomez's mom is Italian and her dad was a second generation from Mexico. Her grandparents came in the 1970s to the United States. So to your point, her people should mean Americans because she's a third generation at minimum American who has lived with a mom who has Italian origin for some time. Just FYI in the state of Texas.
Selena Gomez
It would be weird if something bad happened in Ireland that I started crying about. My people. Yes, they were my people 150 or 200 years ago. My people are Americans. Yeah, right. This is what I. This is with my point.
Clay Travis
Yeah, totally. Here is here is right now. Tom Holman asked directly about the crying video from from Selena Gomez. Listen, what do you say to those who are out there saying that that these are everyday people? These are families that are being attacked and dragged out of their homes. How do you respond to that?
Tom Homan
I don't think we arrested any families. We've arrested public safety threats and national security threats. Bottom line. And look, President Trump won the election on this one issue, securing our border and saving lives. This, what happened on our southern border last four is the biggest national security threat this country seen, at least in my lifetime. Because we've got over 2 million known gotaways. We got a 600% increase in sex trafficking. We got a record number of terrorists crossing the border on terrorist watch list. We have quarter million Americans die from fentanyl coming across the open border. We're going to do this job and we're going to enforce the laws of this country. If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law. We're going to do this operation law apology. We're going to make our community safer. We're going to save. Once we lock that border on continuous operation, you're going to see fentanyl deaths decrease, illegal alien crime decrease, sex trafficking decrease. It's just all for the good of this nation. And we're going to keep going. No apologies. We're moving forward.
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Clay Travis
And I love that they're already responding and just slamming this before it can even really start to have any sort of support behind it. Buck. And this is what you got to have, steel spines, people who are committed to the president's orders and don't tiptoe up to it because you happen to get some emotionally overreactive morons in Hollywood trying to push back against it.
Selena Gomez
Well, if you remember, it happened in the first Trump administration with the family separation policy which they actually backed away from and we gave them an inch and then they took a whole lot more after that. They just as soon as they got the chance with Biden, they kicked the border wide open. Sunday hang is brought to you by.
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Something that I find of interest and I think it affects all of us. Whether people are interested in it in a news sense or not is what's going on right now in the artificial intelligence world, AI and you've had the NASDAQ dropping over 3% today in video which has just been a rocket ship of a stock, it's gone down 16%. All because now Nvidia is a chip maker considered essential to Create the high, very sort of high functioning chips for artificial intelligence. This Chinese deep seek AI has come out. It has its own. It's kind of like ChatGPT, but it's a Chinese version of it. And clay people are saying it works as well as ChatGPT and it's a fraction of the cost. It's a lot easier to do. And I think it's rattled the tech markets right now because what if China is actually, is actually closer to us in AI or maybe even ahead of us in AI than we realize? What if China gets ahead of us in AI robotics and some of these other critical areas for the future? Everyone's having. There's a little bit of a freakout moment going on right now, everybody.
Clay Travis
So far the only thing I've seen AI used for is making fun of me with flute pictures, which you guys are amazing at. But I have talked to people way smarter than us in the world of tech and they really do deeply believe that AI is going to change everything inside of most companies. And buck I think the underlying reason big picture that stock prices have kept going up is there is an idea that, that businesses are going to become wildly more efficient, need way fewer employees as a result of a lot of the tasks that AI is going to be able to do. But what has happened here is there's a bit of a Sputnik moment where for those of you out there that are history nerds, you remember suddenly Russia leapt ahead of America in space age technology with the Sputnik and we got a justifiably concerned about the trajectory of the world geopolitical situation. I think that's kind of a little bit of the reaction with what China has done in its version of AI which is publicly available for lots of people to use. Have you used AI in your existence life? How did you use it?
Selena Gomez
I've just gone on chat GPT and you know, asked questions and just to play around, check it out a little bit. It's like a more, it feels like a more advanced version of Google search in some ways. I don't know, I'm not blown away by it yet by any means. But clay on this, on this score. What the Magnificent seven. It's a bunch of tech stocks. They're the reason that all of our 401ks and retirement accounts and everything have been going up so much in the last because they've been propping up the S&P 500, those seven stocks. And so if they are not going to be as hyper profitable and incredibly influential and dominant in the global market, as expected. These are the kind of things you go, oh, could this start to trigger a real economic, you know, a reset, a recession, a decline? Something. Something that. That hurts. That's painful. I. I don't think this is going to do it, but it just goes to show you that it's, you know, it's. It's never obvious until it happens. And then everyone says, how didn't we know this was coming? And the economy is. There are some areas that are shakier than a lot of people realize right now, just systemically. I mean, this is years. This has nothing to do with Trump per se. This is just what we've been building toward, you know, with debt, with inflation, with monetary policy, and with what the hopes are that have been propelling the stock market to have an incredible few years recently.
Clay Travis
It reminds me a bit of the boom that came from the Internet, the dot com boom that many of you remember. Stock prices skyrocketed, and they were right. The Internet did fundamentally transform the way that Americans lived. But it took a while to figure out who the big winners were. And remember, one of the early teams that people thought was gonna be a big winner was the fibers, the microfibers with which the Internet travels on. And then the stock prices collapsed there because it turned out it was gonna be way cheaper than we thought. Part of me thinks that AI is not going to be as expensive to create as we may have thought. And you still don't know who the winners are going to be?
Selena Gomez
Well, that's where. That's where there was that crash. And then the Internet kept on roaring. But just saying right now, it raises a lot of things. Where are we really technologically against China? What's really propping up our stock market? Where's the economy going? Uncertain future.
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Summary of "Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck" - February 23, 2025
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show on February 23, 2025, titled "Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck," delves into a range of pressing topics, primarily focusing on geopolitical name changes, celebrity involvement in political discourse, immigration policies, and the burgeoning impact of artificial intelligence (AI). Below is a detailed breakdown of the episode’s key discussions, insights, and conclusions.
Timestamp: 02:21 - 02:55
The episode opens with Selena Gomez highlighting Google's recent decision to rename two significant geographical regions:
Selena Gomez remarks:
"It's going to be the Gulf of America. Clay pretty much owns property on the Gulf of America. I do. You know he's a Gulf of America resident. Yeah."
(02:21)
Clay Travis anticipates the commercial impact of these changes:
"The amount of Gulf of America T-shirts that will be sold... are going to be incredible."
(03:02)
He humorously connects the renaming to unexpected weather phenomena, noting unprecedented snowstorms in traditionally warm Gulf regions.
Timestamp: 02:21 - 22:24
A significant portion of the episode discusses a viral incident involving Selena Gomez posting (and subsequently deleting) a video expressing distress over the Trump administration's deportation policies.
Selena Gomez initially states:
"I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. Children, they don't understand. I'm so sorry."
(07:36)
Clay Travis criticizes the video and Gomez's stance:
"If you take a video of yourself crying by yourself and then choose to post it, that's kind of a weird thing to do."
(07:51)
He further dissects her statement, questioning the legitimacy of her claim:
"Why does she refer to them as her people? Your people are Americans."
(10:14)
Selena Gomez responds indirectly to her critics:
"It's a bold stand from Clay. I wish murder was zero."
(12:11)
Clay Travis emphasizes the importance of maintaining a strong stance amidst emotional appeals, citing:
"Steel spines do not allow these emotional appeals to impact what is the logical and right choice."
(07:51)
Buck Sexton adds perspective on the trend of celebrities using political stances for attention, suggesting:
"Their drug is missing right now. They’re addicts for attention."
(13:02)
Later, Tom Homan, a key figure in the Trump administration, addresses the issue:
"President Trump won the election on this one issue, securing our border and saving lives."
(21:29)
He underscores the administration’s efforts in deporting violent criminals and enhancing national security, countering the emotional narratives presented by celebrities like Gomez.
Timestamp: 04:41 - 06:26
Clay and Buck draw parallels between movie sequels and presidencies, particularly likening Trump's administration to successful sequels like Terminator 2.
Clay Travis asserts:
"It is the case, as a general rule, that sequels are usually drastically inferior to the original. But there are exceptions like Godfather 2 and Terminator 2 Strikes Back."
(05:12 - 05:26)
Selena Gomez humorously relates this to Trump's current presidency:
"This is the Terminator 2 of presidencies, if you will."
(05:59)
They discuss the cultural impact and public perception of Trump's administration, suggesting it has achieved a significant, perhaps unprecedented, influence akin to blockbuster movie sequels.
Timestamp: 23:16 - 27:08
The conversation shifts to the rapidly evolving AI landscape, emphasizing concerns over China’s advancements.
Selena Gomez highlights:
"China has its own... it's a Chinese version of ChatGPT... which works as well as ChatGPT and it's a fraction of the cost."
(23:16 - 24:26)
Clay Travis compares the current AI race to historical technological competitions:
"It's a bit of a Sputnik moment where for those of you out there that are history nerds... it's like suddenly Russia leapt ahead of America in space age technology."
(27:08)
They explore the potential economic and security implications if China surpasses the U.S. in AI and related technologies, drawing parallels to past geopolitical shifts and market reactions.
Timestamp: 24:26 - 28:04
The discussion delves into the economic repercussions of AI advancements and stock market volatility.
Selena Gomez notes:
"What if China gets ahead of us in AI robotics and some of these other critical areas for the future?"
(24:26)
Clay Travis reflects on historical market responses to technological innovations:
"It reminds me a bit of the boom that came from the Internet, the dot-com boom..."
(27:08)
They express concern over whose interests are truly advancing within the AI sector and the broader implications for the global economy, suggesting uncertainty about future economic stability.
Timestamp: 22:24 - 29:50
Concluding the episode, Clay emphasizes the necessity for steadfastness in political stances amidst emotional backlash from public figures. He underscores the importance of logical decision-making over emotional rhetoric, especially concerning national security and immigration policies.
Clay Travis states:
"Everybody has to have a steel spine on this, because they're going to be all these emotional videos."
(14:59)
The episode wraps up with a reiteration of the Trump administration’s commitment to border security and national safety, highlighting ongoing efforts to deport violent criminals and enforce immigration laws.
Tom Homan reiterates:
"We're going to enforce the laws of this country. If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law."
(21:29)
Selena Gomez on Google's Name Changes
"I'm into it, actually. I also like that Greenland is freaking out and rather Denmark is freaking out about Greenland, which is very amusing, I think."
(02:55)
Clay Travis on Gulf of America T-Shirts
"I'm already giddy thinking about what I'm going to be wearing on July 4th as I celebrate likely on the Gulf of America."
(03:02)
Clay Travis on Selena Gomez's Video
"Deleting something that you post on social media doesn't eliminate it. And in many ways, Buck to me, it actually draws more attention to it because it suggests that you wish you hadn't posted it in the first place."
(13:10)
Tom Homan on Border Security
"President Trump won the election on this one issue, securing our border and saving lives."
(21:29)
Clay Travis on AI's Impact
"If you have a take, own it. You can't delete your take."
(13:10)
Geopolitical Branding: Renaming significant geographical regions can have both cultural and economic impacts, often leading to commercialization opportunities.
Celebrity Influence: While celebrities like Selena Gomez have platforms, their involvement in complex political issues can be perceived as uninformed or self-serving, potentially diminishing their influence over public opinion.
Presidential Comparisons to Sequels: Drawing parallels between presidencies and movie sequels suggests that political leadership can have varied receptions and impacts, much like film franchises.
AI and Global Competition: The rapid advancement of AI, particularly by China, poses significant challenges to the U.S. in maintaining technological and economic supremacy, reminiscent of historical geopolitical tensions.
Economic Uncertainty: The interplay between technological innovation and stock market performance underscores the fragility and unpredictability of economic stability in the face of emerging technologies.
Overall, the episode underscores a call for logical, steadfast responses to political and technological challenges, advocating for resilience against emotionally driven public narratives and emphasizing the strategic importance of maintaining global competitiveness in AI.