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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
And nothing in between. Fuel your day@chalk.com Bold, reverent, and occasionally random.
Buck Sexton
The Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast starts now. My father in law is here today. Carrie and him are actually at Home Depot right now working on some plantings, you know, doing the things that. That people do. I have no. I feel badly, by the way. I have no. I am not helpful. He is like, he can. He could build a house. I mean, he has built houses.
Clay Travis
So he just shows up at your house and fixes all sorts of things that are broken.
Buck Sexton
It's amazing.
Clay Travis
My.
Buck Sexton
My father, he's the father in law with the tool belt who's just like, well, you need to take a few sprockets and connect him into the. The flux capacitor. And then you just take this over thing here and you know, bang, bang, bang. And I'm like, it works amazing. I have no idea what he's doing.
Clay Travis
My father, Lara's dad, is also able to fix anything. And he will show up and Laura will have a list of things that she needs fixed and he'll just walk around and fix them.
Buck Sexton
I feel bad, like he's trying to include me in it and tell me like, how he's fixing the things too. And I'm saying, yeah, like, I know what's going on, Clay.
Clay Travis
I have no idea enough to even understand what's going on. I'm the same way.
Buck Sexton
I have no idea. He's using tools that I've never even seen before. I'm like, what is that? What is that thing? That thing? It looks like you'd use that to open like, you know, a vat of. Of whale oil in the 1860s. Like, what is this? I don't even know what this is. Anyway, here is. Here's a moment though, where he. Or there was a moment though where he came in and he just said, I just bought milk. He's making coffee this morning at the house Crockett, obviously. And I just bought some milk. And he's like, it was like $8. And I just. That actually is crazy. Maybe it was 7:70 or something, whatever. But a gallon of milk is almost eight bucks here in Florida. And this is at Publix. This is not at some. This is not at Shay Fancy Fancy. This is just a grocery store in my neighborhood. Things have gotten really expensive. That is a real thing that people should be annoyed about because it is government policy. We're not in a milk shortage, no 100%.
Clay Travis
And I think this is again where Biden was so bad. Some of you out there, historically, I think the best analogy is how long did it take for the inflation from Jimmy Carter to burn out in public anger. And unfortunately, you just got used to what things cost and then people were able to adjust.
Buck Sexton
JD Went right into this with Sean last night. Let's play cut 20 here, where he's saying, look, yes, prices are high. This does take some time to adjust. Play 20. A lot of people out there, Sean, who are saying things are expensive, and we have to remember they're expensive because we inherited this terrible inflation crisis from the Biden administration. But you've already seen signs that things are getting better. The price of eggs has gone way down. The price of energy has gone way down. The price of gasoline has gone way down. And as we know, we, when the price of energy goes down, that starts to filter out into the entire economy. But that all that also takes a little bit of time.
Clay Travis
It's true. There you go. And I think again, for those of you who lived through the worse, worse inflation of Jimmy Carter, you and I, Buck, were so young. Was it 1984 when you suddenly started thinking, okay, the Reagan economy is starting to take over flight? Certainly when he won 49 states. That's a pretty good sign that people were voting with their pocketbooks then. But when do people get used? Because I'll be honest, I've never lived through this. I'm still frustrated with what things cost because you have in your mind what something should cost, and then you get a bill and it's way more than that and it makes you angry. And the big challenge, and again, I've said it, is you can't really dial that back once price increases are embedded. You just have to slow down the increase and then slowly people get used to it.
Buck Sexton
I mean, do you feel like the Sultan of Brunei, though, when you buy Chick Fil A for your kids these days? Like a hundred bucks?
Clay Travis
I mean, it's crazy.
Buck Sexton
Yes. Yeah.
Clay Travis
Like when I'm, when I'm looking, when I'm sitting there thinking to myself, when I'm going through the drive through and I see, like, I pull up and they're like, that'll be $64. I'm like, $64. Used to be you could go into a restaurant, sit down and have a meal and it would be like $64 for my family. Now it's a fast food meal. And by the way, this is one of the challenges These fast casual chains are having in general is they're not much more. You know, the. The difference in cost is not that substantial now between them.
Buck Sexton
And that Delta has. Has changed a lot in a big way. So it's. Yeah.
Clay Travis
Sunday sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Buck Sexton
I have to say, Clay, yesterday, as I get ready for a little fireside Friday chat here, I said that speakerphone in public place. And then I think you and producer Ally and some others were suggesting. No, you have to use the speakerphone so you can hear it. No, no, no. If you're using speakerphone on your phone in your own backyard, that's fine. Or if you're using it in your home, that's fine. My objection is when. And this is very common here in Miami, like, every time I go to a restaurant or a. Or a coffee shop here or anything, there'll be somebody who is sitting there on speakerphone and I can hear their people will FaceTime here in public, too, which I did not really experience in New York. I don't remember. It is more of a Miami thing, and I object to this. So I just wanted to be clear that my objection is not to using speaker. Some people wrote in, they're like, well, I can't hear. Yeah, I get it. But you could hear with ear. With the AirPods. Just to put that out there. You could hear with. With, you know, headphones in. So I, you know, this is something that I feel pretty strongly about, but that's not even what I want to get into right now. I just want to clarify, though, because, like, Ali, yesterday you were saying, you, speaker, sometimes you can hear. That's fine. But I assume you don't go to, like, really nice restaurant and sit there on your speakerphone and. And get into whatever it is you're going to get into, Right? Yeah, exactly. That's what. That's what I'm talking.
Clay Travis
I actually am concerned that, like, just being eavesdropped on. And sometimes it's like. But yes, when I'm in some place, like, there's a good chance that I'm gonna have it on speaker because I just can't hear. I don't think that.
Buck Sexton
And.
Clay Travis
And also earbuds, like, they. They redefine. This is me getting old, man. But they changed the input so that the earbuds are now wireless. But I didn't mind actually plugging in the wire anyway, so I got. I'm fired up on this. So you were giving an opinion on this. Let me just mention this before we get into this open table Thing. Almost zero criticism of our Epstein analysis. People are furious at me about my take on the penny. This is really, really funny. My take on change. First of all, I'm right in general. Other than the quarter, which I will defend the quarter because there's lots of vending machines that require quarters. I think we should do away with the penny, with the nickel, and with the dime. Well, really, though, it's.
Buck Sexton
The question is, should we make more? It's not that they take them out of circulation entire. It's not. We're not. They're not hunting down rogue pennies here. Okay? This. This. This isn't.
Clay Travis
You know, I'm not gonna show up beating on your door. Like, I heard there's some pennies in here.
Buck Sexton
There's. There are rules, you know, like, we get it. Like, if you have pennies, that's fine. No one's coming for your change jar. This isn't. The pennies will be taken from my cold, dead hand. Like, no, we. We get it. You can keep your pennies, but they're not making more pennies. That's where. That's where that is. But, yes, if you're angry about that, even though I actually agree with Clay, get mad at Clay because he loves when people are mad at him. Um, I get sad. But open table, this is what I want to talk about, because this is bigger than open table. Maybe you use Resi. Or maybe use one of these other things. If you use Uber Eats, if you use. Well, Uber, if you use any number of these apps on a pretty regular basis, and if you're in a city in particular, these things are. They're omnipresent now in day to day life. I mean, there are a lot of places where you really can't get a cab, but you can get an Uber, right? I mean, that's.
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah, in New York, you can.
Buck Sexton
You know, you can always get a yellow cab pretty much still. But in a lot of places, if you're not using an app to get a ride share.
Clay Travis
When I go anywhere. 20s in. In Nashville, Buck. I was so. I didn't want. I want to go out to a bar. I don't want to worry about getting a dui. So I would try to get picked up by a cab. Getting picked up by a cab in Nashville was impossible. Once you got to a bar, there would be cabs. There were not enough.
Buck Sexton
You.
Clay Travis
Your experience in New York City is a rarity where you could always get a cab. Back in the day. Uber and Lyft fundamentally, I think, made America way safer. There's no excuse now to ever get a dui. Like you can always easily get a car if you have a couple of drinks too much or whatever. So they made the world much better. But there are some downsides associated with the how the world is now set up.
Buck Sexton
So we joked around about this, but you know that, that in particular on Uber you get. There's a rating for you as the user. And so it's not. You always see the driver rating, although the ratings now are. So it's like everybody has 4.9 stars who's a driver. So, you know, is my Uber rating a little higher than Clay's? Maybe. Don't worry about it. You know, am I just a little more trustworthy for these guys picking me up and being on time? I don't know. Maybe, you know, neither here nor there. But they also like that. I don't mind if they drive like an old man because some of us, Clay prioritize safety.
Clay Travis
I will say my Uber drivers drive like super old men. The number of times that they stop on yellows, the number of time that I'm just sitting there like, go, go, go. And they're going too slow. I need a James Bond style personal driver who is just going to get me everywhere as rapidly as possible. Buck is. By the way, we were talking about this Yesterday. Buck is a 4.95on his uber rating. 4.95 out of 5. I am a 4.94. Now, you guys know we've well established that I don't like to cast blame or aspersions. I'm going to throw the Travis boys under the bus here because my kids are also now connected to my Uber account. And I had a better Uber rating before.
Buck Sexton
Oh, get out. Look at Ally. Look at. First he throws producer Ally under the bus, now his own children.
Clay Travis
Now, I'm not somebody to blame other people. My Uber rating has come down since my kids have been connected to my Uber account. I don't know what's happened. I think that they aren't always as prompt as they should be. And I think your boy is taking the L for, for the kids now. So I would have been above Buck but for the Travis boys. Again, not a blame guy, but they're the reason. They are the reason why my Uber rating has declined.
Buck Sexton
You know that. What's that, like rock song? Is it? It's a Metallica where they're like, faster, faster. That's like Clay in the back of the Uber just yelling, you have to drive faster, faster. So you Know, maybe they. Maybe some of the Uber drivers don't like that. OpenTable Uber, these apps have all of this data about you is the point. And people are starting to realize, in the case of Open Table, and this was the piece that I had mentioned from the New York Post, they know things like your wine preferences before you do any. The restaurant just can have this now has access to this data because Open Table gives it them. Your wine preference or do you even drink wine, Your dietary preferences. You know all these things. And then it starts to add in things like, are you late a lot? Do you cancel same day? Are you a chronic canceler of your restaurant reservations? And this is where I get a little more mixed on this. I feel like. I feel like behavior assessment has to go both ways with these things. Right. I think that it's only fair that if a restaurant can get dinged for, you know, making you wait too long or whatever in the review, Clay, should the review system that increasingly we all live with, should it go both ways? Should any app that you use be able. Should it share with the producer of the goods or service what the consumer is actually like? As a consumer, I, I got so.
Clay Travis
Many thoughts on this. First of all, you've been a. You were a single guy for a long time. You probably were on top of reservations forever. I never had reservations for anything. And maybe it's a little bit different in Nashville than. Than other places. I feel like you should just be able to walk in a lot of places now. I get reservations everywhere.
Buck Sexton
He just walks in. He's like, you out kick fans.
Clay Travis
I'm saying, I'm saying I've been through a lot of Valentine's Days. Poor Laura Travis, where you can always tell like, the guy who plans the Valentine's dinner, like, you know, months in advance. He's got the table, he's got the restaurant. I have been Valentine's Day guy walking in like, well, we'll just try three or four different places. Somebody will seat us. Oh, man.
Buck Sexton
Not only are you getting dinged with the worst prefix, they're going to do all year the most expensive with the worst food, which is what most restaurants do on Valentine's Day. This is why it's such a scam, but you're also going to probably do a little waiting.
Clay Travis
I just feel such. In my deep in my soul. I feel bad for both the guy walking in who's like, didn't make the reservation and the woman who's dressed up and she's like, this is the most important night of the year. This is the night when I know if this is the relationship that's going to go or not. You know, Buck, you've probably been through some of these. You know, like on New Year's Eve there's always the girls dressed up in their fanciest dress just crying outside of a restaurant because the boyfriend or sometimes the husband, like did not deliver at to her expected desire on that. It didn't go perfect, right? Like she's got the perfect dress, she's got the perfect hair, perfect makeup, everything. And then it went awry.
Buck Sexton
You never. This is true of weddings. It's true of date night. It's true of you never hold things up as it's going to be perfect. Because nothing is perfect. You just got to learn to roll with things. That's true of everything in life.
Clay Travis
Women, women on Valentine's and on new New Year's Eve, they build in their mind that this is going to be the perfect night. And then it goes awry and they have a couple of drinks and the number of times that you will see a pretty girl just crying. Yes.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. Well, that also. This is also SantaCon. I remember in New York it always ends with some girl dressed up as kind of one of Santa's naughty elves, just with like mascara running down her face and like her boyfriend like passed out in a Santa suit, like thrown up on himself. Like that's not what Santa looks like. Like Santa Khan is a mess. That is amateur hour. It's. I don't know if you guys know there's a big thing in New York. Everyone dresses up like Santa or Santa's helpers and everyone just gets obliterated. More so I think it's even more so than St. Patty's Day. I. It is like Santa Khan is a bacchanal and it's not really what I think Santa and his workshop would have in mind for the holiday. Producer Ali, can I ask you this?
Clay Travis
Was it your.
Buck Sexton
Because you were a bartender, I think you were also a server, right? In previous. Previous life, I know you were a bartender. Oh, yes.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
So when you're a server, I will say this from my single guy days, I would tend to go to the same places because you want to go tip for all the guys out there. You want to go places where you already kind of know the menu, already are comfortable, already know the scene. You don't want to walk in, not really know anything, seem like you don't know what the heck's going on. Don't try new places on a First date, I'm. That's my. My way. But, Ali, if somebody. If I went to a restaurant and some guy or gal who is a server did anything that was kind of along the lines of like, hey, like, oh, man, great to see you again. You know, whatever. The tip meter skyrocketed. It was like.
Clay Travis
It was.
Buck Sexton
That was if you made someone feel like a regular because now you're giving them that social verification. Huge. On the first date. That was you. You saw that, too?
Clay Travis
Oh, absolutely. That is definitely the most. How you got Moby. Oh, my God. I knew he was going to go.
Buck Sexton
Right for the Moby thing.
Clay Travis
You were like, moby, it's good to see you again. I'm sorry that Eminem is making fun of you so aggressively. You need a shoulder to cry on because we're the same height. Hey, Clay, you got to get to your read now. Oh, just trying to send us to a commercial break so she doesn't have to deal with her past relationships.
Buck Sexton
But. But don't. Don't you think, though, It's.
Clay Travis
It's for.
Buck Sexton
Back to the reservation thing. I get all these notices from restaurants when I make a reservation. I've got a date night with Kerry coming. See, I do plan these things in advance. Gentlemen, do yourself a favor. Get the app plan in advance. The ladies love it. The ladies love it. But I get all these like, are you coming? Are you sure you're coming? Are you confirmed to come? Are you sure? I always show up. I'm the show up guy. And they should know that from the app. So I don't, because they'll call, too. They want verbal confirmation. At some of these places, you're actually going to show up. So I feel like this benefits those of us. It's a little bit like a credit score. This benefits those of us who do what we say or do what we're supposed to do. So I. I don't have. I know if people get freaked out about the Chinese, you know, social credit system thing, I think the restaurant credit system is probably a good thing.
Clay Travis
My concern. No, no, no. I'm just trying to think it through. My concern is, like, Uber. Uber now has an issue. I have noticed it lately. Where. And some of you may have noticed it. I don't know if Lyft does, because I use Uber almost exclusively. When you book an Uber, if the driver doesn't move and you're looking down and they're like, hey, it's going to be seven minutes. And you wait five minutes, and it's still seven minutes and you cancel, they will pay, you get charged. As the consumer, you get charged a cancellation fee. I think that people are gaming the system, some of these drivers, and they're choosing to just stay in a parking lot and keep accepting Uber rides and making money off the cancellations without moving. I think it's a flaw in the system. To your point, Buck, my concern is there should be a mutuality of obligation in some way. So in your situation, you should get better treatment as a diner if you regularly show up and fulfill your dining reservation. But if so, I want there to be a positive connotation as opposed to just the restaurant gets the power on a negative to ding you. Right?
Buck Sexton
The only positive side, the only time I've gotten the real like, like the Goodfellas treatment where, you know, he shows up to impress his then girlfriend who becomes his wife, remember this? And they make a table appear out of nowhere and they put him in the front row and they have that whole. It's a very famous scene from the movie Goodfellas if you haven't seen it, when they go out to the nightclub. And clearly the, you know, the mob guys are very connected at this place. Only thing I've ever really experienced that was actually with Clay, but it wasn't for Clay. It was when soccer superstar Alexi Lawless was with us in D.C. for the inauguration. And we went into a bar restaurant, very well known, Billy Martin's Tavern on Wisconsin. It was a freezing cold night because the coldest inauguration ever. I didn't want to go. Clay wanted to go. Whole other story, freezing cold night. And we're like, oh my gosh, all we want is just, you know, some drinks and some chili and whatever. They told us a two hour wait. And then one of the bar backs who was from Central America, recognized Alexi Lawless. I have never seen a trance. They had like five guys come out of the kitchen, all want to take photos with him. All so excited for Alexi Lawless, the soccer guy. And they gave us the best table in the restaurant. Right away we went from two hour wait to best table in the restaurant in the window.
Clay Travis
It's 100% true. We were with Alexi. Awesome guy. Probably listening to this on podcast at 2x speed. He we walk in the. And not only that, Buck, the entire restaurant staff posed for him, like wanted to get a picture. And we went from it'll be a two hour wait to we'll have the best table ready for you in 10 minutes in the snap of fingers. At inauguration weekend in D.C. which is probably the busiest weekend of the year in D.C. just about for restaurants, certainly restaurants that, that are like Billy Martin's Tavern, which is super cool place where JFK reportedly proposed to Jack to Jackie Kennedy. But it's an old school place in Georgetown. Very cool. And yeah, that happened, that happened in a hurry. We were treated just like producer Ali treated Moby back in the day when they were in a great relationship.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Someone from Minneapolis didn't say his name, but here's what he says about my conversation with Clay yesterday about tipping people everywhere for everything.
Clay Travis
Play AA hey guys, I realize it's not the point of your whole story, but the tipping part, if I'm sitting down and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm standing up, ordering my own food and clearing my own dishes, I'm not tipping. Period. End of story. That's how the world should work.
Buck Sexton
I don't disagree with your, with your rule there at all. And I wanted to be clear yesterday. I wasn't saying to people, you know, everyone has to make their own, make their own budgets and take care of their, them, you know, themselves and their families first and foremost, obviously being fair to people who are servers and stuff in the process. But I was just saying I have given up on enforcing that rule in my own life because I just figure anybody that I'm coming across in the service industry, you know, it's like I'm spreading, spreading some loot around. That's my idea. That's how I do things. I'm very blessed, fortunate in life and, you know, just trying, just trying to be generous in my own community in little ways I can into those who are in a position where they're not worried about week to week, month to month bills, you know, just tip 30%. You know, give, give people especially who are working really hard. I mean, I think it's, it's so important to show appreciation for people how you can when you can with little money. All right, here we go. Bob from Houston wants to weigh in on our dating conversation. BB Hit it.
Clay Travis
Clay.
Buck Sexton
Buck. I learned early on that girls are just like guys. We all just want a nice, respectful friendship that may blossom into a relationship. And when I learned that then talking to any group of girls in high school was no problem. Now it wasn't, you know, trying to pick up a date or anything like that. But, you know, just making daily conversation, to me, that was just really great. So. And lo and behold, it was actually through a friend that I met my wife, and we've known each other for 20 years. Married 13. Bob, I'm glad it all worked out for you. I'm a big believer. I always say this to people. Just talk to people. You'd be amazed at how much you learn and how much opens up to you when you're just willing to talk to folks. Talk to people as you can as you come across them. I'll say also that the idea of a pickup line. Here's my thing. I don't think the pickup line really matters. What helps people is that the pickup line gives guys. Guys, the ones who do pickup lines, right. It gives them the confidence to approach a woman that they're then speaking to. And because they think, oh, I have a pickup line, they come across as confident and ready to engage. The line doesn't really matter. But I wouldn't go with, may I meet you? For most of you out there, Unless you're gonna do it in an ironic and funny way, and maybe that'll work great. In fact, I bet there are people who are gonna get married because of Bill Ackman's may I meet you? Because he said it and then the lady laughed in response. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
Episode Theme:
This Sunday Hang episode sees Clay Travis and Buck Sexton swapping stories and opinions on everything from surging grocery prices and personal handyman inadequacy, to tech’s growing role in restaurant bookings and ride-shares, tipping culture, and the comics and calamities of date night traditions like Valentine’s and SantaCon. With their trademark blend of good-natured ribbing and candid takes, Clay and Buck offer lighthearted but pointed commentary on both national issues and everyday struggles.
For Listeners:
This episode delivers Clay and Buck’s signature conversational, thoughtful, and irreverently funny take on issues both big (inflation, tech’s role in modern life) and small (date night gaffes, speakerphone gripes, penny nostalgia), making for an engaging, relatable listen even if you missed the show.