Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Mar 1 2026

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Sunday Hang – March 1, 2026

Episode Overview

This Sunday Hang episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features a lively, wide-ranging conversation between Clay and Buck, known for their blend of news, pop culture, and listener engagement delivered with good-natured banter. The episode’s main threads include:

• An animated debate on the best movies of the 1980s
• Listeners’ reactions to past show topics (flag football, pop music phenomena, personal grooming mishaps)
• Reflections on well-being (mental and physical health)
• The Taylor Swift vs. Beatles generational comparison
• Lighthearted stories and personal anecdotes

---

1. 1980s Movie Showdown (03:24 – 12:52)

Key Discussion Points

• Buck insists “Beverly Hills Cop” is a Top 10 movie of the 1980s, sparking a contentious (and humorous) debate.
• Clay pushes back, listing multiple movies he believes surpass it, and presents popular/critical rankings and box office data.
• Both hosts recall favorites and discuss the fine lines separating action, sci-fi, and war movies.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Buck: “One of the great opening sequences in any movie...Beverly Hills Cop. I’ll put this out there: a top 10 movie of the 80s. I’d put it in the top 10.” (03:51)
• Clay: “That’s outrageous. It’s a very good movie, but aren’t there three Indiana Jones movies and three Star Wars?” (04:22)
• Buck: “Only a nerd thinks that the Star Wars movies are better than Beverly Hills Cop.” (04:36)
• Clay: “Empire Strikes Back is better...All of the Indiana Jones movies. Lethal Weapon...Terminator 2.” (04:40–04:59)
• Buck: “Die Hard is, I think, the greatest action movie ever made...War movies are different than action movies. Action movies involve clear steroid use by the protagonist and one-liners while he just shoots everybody.” (07:15)
• Clay on Rotten Tomatoes ranking: “Oh...It’s the number 100 movie of the 80s...not even barely made the top 100.” (10:26)
• Buck (on box office): “You know what the number six movie of the 1980s is in terms of dollars adjusted for inflation? Beverly Hills Cop won. Boom.” (12:17)

Fun Segment

• The duo gets meta, consulting various lists (Rotten Tomatoes, Google/AI, box office) and sparking joyful movie nostalgia. Films referenced include “Back to the Future,” “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” “The Breakfast Club,” “Die Hard,” “Karate Kid,” “Ghostbusters,” and more.
• Clay shares a personal anecdote about visiting the "Die Hard" building in LA. (06:44)

---

2. Listener Interactions & Callbacks (13:30 – 25:20)

Mental/Physical Health & Daily Habits

• Buck discusses advice from former SEAL Team 6 operator D.J. Shipley on the benefits of daily 20-minute walks, praising its impact on metabolism, sleep, and mental health.
  • Quote (Buck, relaying DJ Shipley): “If you are struggling right now and you are not doing a 20-minute walk a day, I encourage you to go do one and take a buddy with you...Mental health, physical health—walks, telling you—make it a part of your day to day.” (14:02)

Show Listener Call-ins

• Wally the Truck Driver protests against winter and icy roads; Buck sympathizes and humorously discusses "iguana-cicles" in Miami. (15:08)
• Milwaukee Listener ribs Clay for his athletic bravado; Buck vows not to play the "Jaws" theme during Clay’s planned Alcatraz swim. (16:50)
• Multiple listeners offer commentary on pop culture debates, particularly the Taylor Swift-Beetles generational span (see below).
• Conversation about Polish heritage, sausage, Goo Goo Dolls, and producer Ali’s unpronounceable last name. (22:52–24:33)
• Listeners rib the hosts about accountability: Podcast listener Justin calls Buck out for shifting positions on Taylor Swift (26:28), and Pam from Anchorage, Alaska, claims to have predicted Buck’s changing takes (32:21).

---

3. Taylor Swift, The Beatles, and Pop Phenomena (21:20 – 32:38)

Key Discussion Points

• Listeners weigh in on the ongoing debate: Is Taylor Swift the Beatles of this generation?
• Buck is put on the spot for shifting opinions—supporting Taylor Swift as "T. Swift" in his single years, now more reserved as a married man.
• Clay cites external support: Tommy Lahren agrees with his view that Swift will eclipse the Beatles, and listeners argue Swift has already spanned two decades of relevance.
• Buck and Clay joke about how single/dating status influences pop culture opinions.

Notable Quotes

• Buck: “Solo show Buck was a single man...I was impressed with her talent, and I thought she was somewhat good-looking at the time. Now I’m a happily married man...That’s just the way things are at the time.” (26:44)
• Clay: “Maybe we need to get Tommy Lahren on the show because she hopped in the mentions...and said she’s going to be bigger than the Beatles.” (27:46)
• Listener Brian: “Clay’s right. Taylor Swift has already been putting out albums for 20 years. People have been listening to her their entire lives.” (22:18)
• Buck, on changing perspective: “Single Buck...a little more open to Taylor Swift than married Buck...Medium T Swift fan.” (32:38)

---

4. Personal Moments & Anecdotes (28:14 – 31:23)

Haircut Misadventures

• Clay shares a story about getting a haircut from a Russian stylist who offers to “accidentally” shave off his bet-lost mustache. Clay, in the spirit of honesty, refuses the “out.” (28:14)
• Buck admits to cutting his own hair during COVID lockdowns in NYC, with "Castaway" results, while Clay brags that nothing ever closed in Tennessee. (30:30–30:49)

---

5. Final Listener Callbacks & Banter (32:21 – 34:21)

• Pam from Alaska (“Don’t ever doubt us OG Listeners”) calls out Buck's flip-flopping on Taylor Swift, which Buck good-naturedly acknowledges.
• The segment wraps with playful talk about obscure barbershops (“Moose Cuts”) and a reaffirmation of listener loyalty and ongoing in-jokes.

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp (MM:SS) | Notes | |--------------------------------------------|-------------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 80s Movie Debate | 03:24–12:52 | Heated, hilarious; includes multiple rankings | | Physical/Mental Health & DJ Shipley Advice | 13:30–15:08 | Short walks, wellness tips | | Listener Call-ins, Winter & Humor | 15:08–16:50 | Wally the trucker, iguanas | | Taylor Swift vs. Beatles Megadebate | 21:20–32:38 | Multiple listeners, celebrity support, banter | | Grooming Stories, COVID Haircuts | 28:14–31:23 | Russian barber, lockdown life | | Show Wrap-Up & Callbacks | 32:21–34:21 | Listener ribbing, Taylor Swift position shifts |

---

Overall Tone and Takeaways

• Energetic, funny, sometimes self-deprecating, Clay and Buck play off each other’s quirks and opinions with fast banter.
• Audience inclusion: Listener feedback and inside jokes are seamlessly woven into the episode.
• Pop culture & generational comparisons drive both debate and nostalgia, mixed with light advice for daily life improvement.

---

Memorable Quotes Table

| Time | Speaker | Quote | |----------|------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:51 | Buck | “Beverly Hills Cop. One of the best movies. I'll put this out there. A top 10 movie of the 80s.” | | 04:36 | Buck | “Only a nerd thinks that the Star wars movies are better than Beverly Hills Cop.” | | 07:15 | Buck | “Action movies involve clear steroid use by the protagonist and one-liners...” | | 10:26 | Buck | “It’s the number 100 movie of the 80s. That’s...that's...That's not even barely made the top 100.” | | 14:02 | DJ Shipley | “If you are struggling right now and you are not doing a 20 minute walk a day, I encourage you to go do one and take a buddy with you...” | | 22:18 | Brian | “Taylor Swift has already been putting out albums for 20 years. People have been listening to her their entire lives.” | | 26:44 | Buck | “Solo show Buck was a single man...Now I’m a happily married man...Very different.” | | 27:46 | Clay | “Tommy Lahren...signed off on my Taylor Swift take and said she’s going to be bigger than the Beatles.” | | 30:33 | Clay | “I lived in Tennessee. Nothing shut down. My gym was open by May of 2020. Like, they never though. We basically did...” | | 32:21 | Pam | “I called this out months ago. Buck's shape shifting opinion about Taylor Swift.” |

---

This episode manifests the show’s signature format: spirited culture quarrels, listener involvement, and irreverent humor, making for a dynamic, conversational listen ideally suited for fans of pop culture analysis and community banter.

Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human feeling overwhelmed by stress and uncertainty. You're not alone and encouragement is closer than you think. At InTouch.org, Dr. Charles Stanley's ministry provides powerful sermons, daily devotionals and resources designed to strengthen your faith. It's more than information, it's transformation. Discover peace in the chaos, clarity in confusion, and practical wisdom for everyday life. Whether you're seeking hope, guidance or simply a reminder of God's presence, InTouch.org is here for you. Visit today. You'll be glad you did.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures Time for

[Sponsor Voice 2]

a Sofa Upgrade Introducing Anabe Sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices. Anabe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space. Today sofas start at just $699 with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Clay Travis]

Flag football is exploding and iflag is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder. IFLAG hosts premier flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game. Ready to be part of it? Join the movement, find your tournament and

[Buck Sexton]

learn [e-mail] that's iflag.org the Sunday hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural

[Clay Travis]

supplements for guys, gals and nothing in between. Fuel your [e-mail] Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. Welcome back in play Travis Buck, sex in Show.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you know what? When you hear this music, there should be a scene that immediately comes to mind for you. I'm putting you on the spot. This is a little. Name that tune, that intro music that we just played.

[Clay Travis]

Is this Grease Lightning?

[Buck Sexton]

What? Good Lord.

[Clay Travis]

Good Lord.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay.

[Clay Travis]

I don't. I'm trying to listen. I, I don't. What is the, the music? No, I have. No, I thought it was the Grease Lightning intro.

[Buck Sexton]

There's. It's in Beverly. Beverly Hills. When he's in the, when he's doing the cigarette deal and he's like, it's a government tax stamp. You can't, you can't beat that. And then like the truck. It's, by the way, one of the great opening sequences in any movie. But that's the, the music that they're playing in the background of that whole sequence, which I'm. Beverly Hills Cop. One of the best movies. I'll put, I'll put this out there. A top 10 movie of the 80s. I'd put it in the top 10.

[Clay Travis]

That's outrageous. It's a very good movie. I mean, I'm just thinking off the top of my head. I mean, aren't there three Indiana Jones movies and three Star Wars? I guess the first Star wars was 77.

[Buck Sexton]

Only a nerd thinks that the Star wars movies are better than Beverly Hills Cop. You're not a nerd. Come on.

[Clay Travis]

Empire Strikes Back is better than Beverly Hills Cop. All of the. That is all of the Indiana Jones movies are. I'm not anti. Beverly Hills cop. Lethal Weapon 1 and 2, probably both better than Beverly Hills Cop.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, now you're really. Now you're Terminator. Now you're just messing.

[Clay Travis]

Terminator 2 better than Beverly Hills Cop.

[Buck Sexton]

I didn't say it was the best Movie. I said it's top 10.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I'm just naming like eight off the top of my head right there. And that's not even getting into like the Godfather or the Godfather 2.

[Buck Sexton]

I think the Godfather was like 1979. Or am I right on that one? Was the godfather 72? Clay, Clay, I know you. I know you were in high school, but, like, that was a long time ago. Okay, that's 1972. That's. I said the 80s.

[Clay Travis]

Back to the Future. Back to the Future.

[Buck Sexton]

I would, I would put Back to the Future in the top 10 as well. Yes.

[Clay Travis]

I think, I think it's hard to get to. To Beverly hills cop top 10. I'm not, I'm not demeaning the quality of the film. I, I'm a Beverly Hills Cop fan, but I, I think getting. I mean, some of people out there would say Trading Places, which I think came out in the 80s, is better than Beverly.

[Buck Sexton]

No one says. No one says Trading Places is better. Even as an Eddie Murphy movie. No one says that's a better movie.

[Clay Travis]

Place is a very, very good movie.

[Buck Sexton]

I just, I just so, you know, the movies, I, I went. Obviously there's a million different lists.

[Clay Travis]

Cooneys. Lost Boys. Like, this is a. This is the awful take by you, Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

It's not an awful. I mean, maybe if you want to say it's like number 12 or 15, fine. Back to the Future. That this is what's on the, like, first list that comes up according to. What do you call it? Google?

[Clay Travis]

AI.

[Buck Sexton]

Back to the Future, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of a Lost Ark, et. The Breakfast Club. No way. Beverly Hills. Copy that.

[Clay Travis]

I agree with you on the Breakfast Club.

[Buck Sexton]

That's crazy. The Blade Runner. No way. Beverly Hills Cop's a better movie. Die Hard is a better movie than Beverly Hills Cop. It kills me to say that, but that is true.

[Clay Travis]

I actually took a picture of the Die Hard, the Nakatomi Plaza when I was out in LA last week. The physical structure is right by the Fox lot and I meant to text it to the show text chain. Die Hard is. Die Hard is, I think, the greatest action movie ever made. Now I know you can get into what is action, right. Because how broadly do you do. But I think most people know an action movie like a Shoot them up was different than a military movie. Like Saving Private Ryan is different than

[Buck Sexton]

Die, but I think it's its own genre. Yeah. That there are war movies and there are action movies. Action movies involve clear steroid use by the protagonist and like one liners While he just shoots everybody while holding the gun in his left hand and a beautiful babe in his right arm being like, oh, like I am the hero. You know, very Schwarzenegger, Stallone, you know, these kinds of people. That's action movies. I would actually, I would put the Matrix in the action movie category. Even though some people would say sci fi, that's at the very top of my. You know, that's like a top five action movie for me. Okay, look, the 80s was a great decade for movies, but I do Karate Kid.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, there are so many movies out there.

[Buck Sexton]

Cops a better movie than.

[Clay Travis]

No, Karate Kid is better than Beverly Hills.

[Buck Sexton]

LaRusso is a little nerd.

[Clay Travis]

Little nerd.

[Buck Sexton]

He started it. You like, you like the Cobra Kai and you know that, the whole, the whole, you know, it was like Karate Kids PR team that convinced everybody that he should have stolen Elizabeth Shoe in the first place. That was the blonde haired guy's girl, man. You just show up.

[Clay Travis]

Senior Kai is so good. For those of you out there, if you're. And I understand some people are like, oh, I hate every. Like, it is such a good series. So good. I mean, it's ridiculous, but I watched it with my kids. They were obsessed with it. They loved it. I. Yeah, that, that, that whole, that whole concept, that whole movie was just, just extraordinary in the follow up. But other than Buck being totally wrong about Beverly Hills. And by the way, didn't I get ripped just like six months ago for coming on and liking the new Beverly Hills copy, Axel F that aired on Netflix? I came on and I was like, Axel F was pretty good. It's like the fourth Beverly Cop or whatever. Beverly Hills Cop movie. So I'm not anti Beverly Hills Cop movie. It was very good. But, but yeah, that's, that's a rough take by you.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you know what? According to Rotten. Sorry, I know you want to move

[Clay Travis]

on, but I love. No, no, no. I'm actually the number one.

[Buck Sexton]

The, the only, the only way we can really take this to the, to the mat here. Okay. Is looking at the. By the way, Ghostbusters. Absolutely. On my top 10 movies of the 80s. Absolutely.

[Clay Travis]

You name 10 that are better.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, maybe it's top 15 then. But I'm getting close. I Look, I agree it would be sneaking in at the nine or 10 slots. But it, but I would put it, you know, the, the number one movie according to. Again, this is based on like all audience reviews. Back to the future most beloved movie of the 80s, which E.T. is number two, Ghostbusters. Is number three. The Shining is very high, which, I mean, it's a great movie, but, like, I just don't like horror as a genre very much. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah. Not a surprise.

[Clay Travis]

Die Hard. Die Hard.

[Buck Sexton]

Terminator, Terminator, Predator. All amazing movies. And, you know, eventually we're going to get to Beverly Hills Cop in here. It's a little, little, little.

[Clay Travis]

Like, It'd be like 76.

[Buck Sexton]

It's like, let me see. You know what? I'll find it. I'm a little sad right now. I thought when you thought I was

[Clay Travis]

going to be able to.

[Buck Sexton]

This is like when Nate Bargazzi says that he's going to tell his wife I do my own laundry. And it's like the end of the fight. I went to Rotten Tomatoes and unfortunately it's helping Clay's position, which is really upsetting me right now. Oh.

[Clay Travis]

I mean.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh. Oh. It's the number. According to. It's the number 100 movie of the 80s. That's. That's.

[Clay Travis]

That's not even barely made the top 100. It's a fine movie. But Back to the Future, and I would. I would argue Back to the Future is nearly a perfect movie, like almost a perfectly constructed movie. Same thing for the Raiders. Lost Ark is good. I actually think the Last Crusade is the best of the. Of the Indiana Jones movies. And I think that came out in like 89.

[Buck Sexton]

Jaws came out in 75. I always thought Jaws.

[Clay Travis]

Well, because we just had the 50 50th anniversary last year of Jaws.

[Buck Sexton]

Do kids still watch? Did your kids watch ET Like, I feel like that's a movie.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think they've seen it. It's a sad movie. It wasn't one that I was super excited to watch with them. You know, I mean, it kind of ends in a. I mean, it's kind of a dark ending. So I don't even know that we've watched E.T. we've watched all. Almost all the top 80s movies. That's a good question. I haven't watched it with him. Top Gun Buck. I mean, you. This is a. This is a whip. Like, the team is just. The team is just throwing punches at you on our text. Jade, left and right with all the iconic 1980s movies.

[Buck Sexton]

You know what? I'm going for one more. I'm going for one more data point in my favor. Let's see what this goes here. Ok, baby. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Highest grossing. Highest grossing movies of the 1980s. You ready for this? I love AI it makes everything so Fast. Now, what do you think the number one is? Clay on this one.

[Clay Travis]

Number one, the highest grossing movie of the 1980s has to be a PGA.

[Buck Sexton]

We've already talked about it to narrow this down. It's not that hard.

[Clay Travis]

Back to the future.

[Buck Sexton]

No, that's actually number eight. Number one, ET, $399 million. Now this is adjusted for inflation, to be clear, but $399 million. You know what the number six movie of the 1980s is in terms of dollars adjusted for inflation? All in. Beverly Hills Cop won. Boom. That's right. Don't give up that fight, everybody. You stay in that game, number six.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, there's a lot of awful movies that make a lot of money. Aren't you the king of hating Avatar? And Avatar is like three or four of the biggest grossing movies of all time.

[Buck Sexton]

You're going to use my curmudgeonly consistency against me on this one. That's really where we're going. Okay, fair, fair. But, but really it's dominated by the Indiana Jones series, the Star wars series, Ghostbusters, E.T. that like that's. Those are the biggest movies of the 80s. And then Beverly Hills Cop sneaks in there. So there you go. Sundays with Clay and Vox. I like to give little bits of, of, I don't know, maybe a crude wisdom from either my life or my research or just things that I've seen that I like to share with other people. And I had mentioned the incredible special operations patriot, D.J. shipley, formerly of Dev Group Seal Team 6. And he's got GBRS Group now. He's a great guy. I've trained with him before, went out to his facility. But he's the guy that really. I saw this clip and he talks about short walks and if you look at him, I mean he looks like, I mean he looks like a special operations soldier built in a laboratory somewhere. I mean he's, you know, incredible specimen and he's a great guy. And here's how he talks about this. I want you to listen to. Just going for short walks. Guys, listen to this. What is a 20 minute walk and why are you doing it? I stole the initial concept from Stan Effing White Rhino. Big old yolked up powerlifter bodybuilder. And he would do these 10 minute walks in between meals to help digest his food. And I did it at night and I felt it instantly. I was like, holy. So helps me burn fat, kickstart my metabolism. Circadian rhythm lets my body know when the sun's up, when the Sun's down and then when to start powering it down to go to sleep. Gives me a chance to get off my phone. The mental health aspect of it. That's why I tagged mental health. Because if you were struggling with right now and you are not doing a 20 minute walk a day, I encourage you to go do one and I encourage you to take a buddy with you. Mental health, physical health, walks, telling you make it a part of your day to day go for walks. And he also has a different clip where he talks about how helpful it is with your wife or your spouse. But all the same concept, same idea. So you heard it from him. You listen to DJ go walk every day. We have Wally the truck driver who listens on 710W O R. He has sent us a talk back. Let's hear from Wally. This is C. Okay Buck. My name's Wally. I'm an over the road truck driver and I'm here to. I'm here to protest ice and snow and cold. Cause I hate winter. That's fair. Protesting ice on the roads. I get protesting ice in our communities enforcing laws that I do not like. But yes, icy roads, very bad, very tough, can be very slick and cause problems for you there. It has been so called here in Miami for a while now that there have been these iguana icicles. They, they fall from the trees because as you know, iguanas are a reptile and they can't really regulate body temperature internally. So if it gets too cold, they kind of just shut down. They don't die. From what I understand. It's almost like they go into a comatose state and I don't know, apparently you can pick them up and just, you know, take a bite and they're kind of crunchy. I'm just kidding. You don't do that. That would be gross. I think it would be gross. Some people do eat them. I think there were pets that were brought here too. They're not indigenous to, to Florida. So take that as you, as you, as you will, unnamed Milwaukee listener. Well, that sounds interesting. Here's cut or here's talk back D. Let's hit it. Who does this guy Clay Travis think he is? You know, he thinks he can swim from Alcatraz to the mainland like it's some king kiddie pool in between challenging Bo Jackson to a 50 yard dash and arm wrestle. I mean he probably thinks he can join every event in the Olympics and sweep everyone with gold medals for Christ's sakes. I think we need Bo and Riley to put Clay in his place. I'll let. I'll let Clay respond to that one if he wants when he gets back. But he knows he's a weekend warrior too. And if he does do the the Al Alcatraz swim, I have promised him that I will not, on a Bluetooth speaker, play the theme song to Jaws the whole time that he's swimming right next to him in the launch boat. I'm not going to do that because you know what I mean? That. That wouldn't be nice. It's not nice. It's not nice. We wouldn't do that. You know, in today's world, it's easy to feel overwhelmed. News cycles move faster than ever. Daily stress piles up and uncertainty about the future can weigh heavily on our hearts. All of that adds up, leaving so many of us searching for a place of clarity, encouragement and peace. Here's one place online that delivers on that intouch.org it's the online home of Dr. Charles Stanley's ministry. And it's more than just a website. It's transformation. There you'll find sermons that speak directly to real life challenges, devotionals you can read every single day, and practical tools that give you strength when you need it most. You'll also discover podcasts, articles and Bible study guides that help you grow deeper in your faith and apply God's truth to everyday life. If you're looking to grow spiritually, to find peace in the chaos, or to gain wisdom for the decisions ahead, InTouch.org is there for you. Take a few minutes today, you'll be glad you did.

[Clay Travis]

Grand Canyon University is one of the largest universities in the country. Praised for its community and impact, GCU integrates a welcoming Christian worldview and open discourse into over 3, 300 online programs. Redefine your online education through GCU's industry driven, academically rigorous programs. In 2024 online students received over $161 million in institutional scholarships. Find your purpose Private Christian Affordable Discover available scholarships at GCU Eduardo My offer

[Sponsor Voice 1]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It's IT screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back, test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Investment Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosure is available at public.com disclosures

[Sponsor Voice 2]

tired of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right, sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slip covers made with performance fabric. Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime. Shop washablesofas.com for up to 60% off site wide. That's by a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund. No return, shipping or restocking fees. Every penny back. Upgrade [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Clay Travis]

Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck Chris from Tampa, Florida.

[Buck Sexton]

The one armed man there, Mr. Sexton, was from the Fugitive. That would be the Fugitive.

[Clay Travis]

There you go. We got it.

[Buck Sexton]

He gets the gold star. The high five correct. There was a fugitive reference on the show yesterday, which I think Clay almost blew the whistle on.

[Clay Travis]

I stepped all over the gladiator reference if I if I remember correctly, Corey in Minnesota. But I've I've won him over.

[Buck Sexton]

B When I was listening to Clay about the Taylor Swift thing, I started laughing and kind of a what a moron move that was. And the more I think about it and the more I've listened to his arguments, I think he's 100% right. The Beatles are great because it's our generation. She is going to span multiple generations and multiple genres by the time it's done. I think he's falling into this common trap of Clay's obviously wrong position that he's very persuasive in making. That's what I feel bad for him here.

[Clay Travis]

It's like the. The meme that everybody shares of Alonzo Morning. Back in the day, he was a player for the Miami Heat. He's shaking his head no, and then just inexplicably, he keeps shaking his head no, and then he changes to shaking his head yes. Nobody's talking to him. That's like me every day. I'm just convincing people. Brian in Katy, Texas.

[Buck Sexton]

C, this is Brian in Katie, Texas. Clay's right. Taylor Swift has already been putting out albums for 20 years. People have been listening to her their entire lives. They're gonna keep listening to her.

[Clay Travis]

I love these cockbacks. Really great stuff.

[Buck Sexton]

All these bands have been putting out. The Backstreet Boys have been putting out albums for 20 years. Who cares? This is nonsense. The longevity thing isn't really an argument as far as I can see, but. All right.

[Clay Travis]

That's right. More people listen. D podcast listener Tony. Let's see what he has to say.

[Buck Sexton]

Buck, I think you've just. I'm not even sure. I think you've just become officially Polish. You love Buffalo. You love the Goo Goo Dolls. I just heard it. And you love kielbasa. So you got two. You got two going right out. Kielbasa. The Goo Goo Dolls, who are like, Johnny resnick is, like, 100% Polish from downtown Buffalo. We got to get you some. Well, first of all, we got it. We got to get you to be a Bill fan.

[Clay Travis]

I think it was your roommate, Polish sausage, that you were particularly fond of. If I were.

[Buck Sexton]

That he introduced me to. Yes. The first time I ever experienced Polish sausage. And it was delicious, I'll have you know. The spice. It was quite good.

[Clay Travis]

I was.

[Buck Sexton]

I was a fan. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

No, I'm.

[Buck Sexton]

Goo Goo Dolls. Love the band. And I actually have had some very close friends from Buffalo over the years, so I feel like I'm kind of a honorary Buffalonian, if that's a thing. I think that's.

[Clay Travis]

I would like to see the Bills win a Super bowl one day, and I'd like to see Josh Allen win a Super bowl one day. I don't know it's ever going to happen. People in Buffalo are saying, yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, producer Ali is so Polish that nobody can produce. I can pronounce her last name. Nobody. She's very lucky. She got a cool last name in the marriage that's easy to pronounce, but her actual Polish last name. We've been working with her for years. I've known Ali for a decade. I have no idea how to pronounce that last name. It's very Polish.

[Clay Travis]

I agree. And also, you made a great call.

[Buck Sexton]

It's like. It's like Koch la Pawski. It's like Koslapowskoveski or something. It's. It's up like that.

[Clay Travis]

What's wild is when we would try to email and you were finally like, you just got to simplify this email. Because she tried to predict. Brilliant. I don't know. The first and last names were in email addresses, as they often are at many different places.

[Buck Sexton]

I did. I did make producer Ally change her email address because I got so sick of not being able to spell her name. So that is. That is a real thing that happens. So maybe the Polish will be mad at me. But, man, you get the C's and the Z's and the Y's and everything in there. I don't know what's going on.

[Clay Travis]

No, 100%. One more. By the way, as we go to break. Yesterday we played our Goodfellas talk back. Sounded like. And now he's way back in and says everybody's making fun of him at work.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, Clay and Buck, It's Dave from Pennsylvania again, Man, I can't believe you played that callback. Everybody at work is busting on me. They're downloading this thing over what I said about Clay and his music playing. Yeah, it's toned that there. I got a cold yesterday.

[Clay Travis]

My throat was sore.

[Buck Sexton]

I was trying to yell on the phone. Oh, my God, you guys are awesome. You're awesome. You're fantastic. Yeah, that was great. He's like, you. You guys. I'm like, hey, we love it. Give us those talk backs, everybody. The Sunday hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural supplements for guys, gals.

[Clay Travis]

And nothing in between. Fuel your day at chalk. Com.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

Sunday sizzle with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

We insist on accountability on this program. Accountability in government and accountability for ourselves as hosts and what we say. I bring this up because. Scurrilous accusation now being leveled about my changing opinion on Taylor Swift. Podcast listener Justin wants to weigh in on. He says he used to listen to me solo and I was singing a different tune, so to speak. This is. This is Talkback H. Hit it. Does everyone remember when Buck had his own show and he had quite a bit of praise for Taylor Swift, going so far as to call her T. Swift.

[Clay Travis]

Wow.

[Buck Sexton]

Whoa, whoa, wow, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. What is the fb?

[Clay Travis]

Go to the tape.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, we could probably find this stuff. You have to remember solo show. Buck was a single man. And, and, and my.

[Clay Travis]

So you were willing to lie about your, your opinions of Taylor Swift to curry favor with single?

[Buck Sexton]

No, I, I, I was, I was impressed with her, her talent and I thought she was somewhat good looking at the time. Now, of course, I'm a happily married man. I don't even consider such things. But at the time I was willing to say perhaps that she was hot and, and that, you know, is as a single guy, that's, you know, that's just the way things are at the time. And, and, you know, there. And that I was impressed with also her many fans, some of whom were women in my, you know, general age category, who I did not wish to upset as a single man out on the scene at the time by trashing. So I didn't want the T Swifters to left swipe on me just because I had said mean things about her music. So am I, am I playing a little bit of both sides on this one? Yeah, but we're talking about single man versus married man. It's very, very different. Very different.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe we need to get Tommy Lahren on the show because she hopped in the mentions on Instagram, signed off on my Taylor Swift take, and said she's going to be bigger than the Beatles. Ali, let's get Tommy booked because she has great taste when it comes to arguments. And let's see. Elaine in Bel Air, Florida. Elaine, what you got for us?

[Buck Sexton]

Hi. Hey. I am embarrassed to say I'm not real great up to speed on my social media.

[Sponsor Voice 2]

Clay, did you shave your beard?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, he definitely did, you know, yesterday. Buck, this is talking about unfortunate occurrences. So I oftentimes I don't get a haircut as often as I should. As many people out there probably noticed, I'm not the best at making myself look the best. So I had time at the hotel to get a haircut. They have a, you know, hair salon in the hotel. So I stopped, got the haircut. And as I was getting the haircut, the woman giving me the haircut said, what's the deal with your mustache? And I said, well, you know, I lost a bet. I've got the mustache. And she just kind of nodded. She was cutting my hair and she said, you know, I'm Russian. And I said, yeah, you can tell by the accent. She said, if you want that mustache gone, I can take it off for you right now. And you can just claim that your Russian hairdresser misunderstood when you asked me to trim it and you thought that I was gonna take it off, but I'll have you know, Buck, because I'm honest, because I'm forthright, because I don't. I don't tiptoe up into. Try to dodge bets. I told her, no, you can just trim it up, make it look better. And she said, okay. But again, I'm Russian, and I can just claim that I didn't understand you well, and it's. You can use that as an excuse.

[Buck Sexton]

I feel like your Russian hairdresser could also get you a stinger missile if you needed it. You know what I mean? Sounds like she's old school.

[Clay Travis]

True. You know, she was definitely. I. I wondered. I was like, is this. Is this the KGB after me? But she gave me a great haircut, so I think I'm in good shape.

[Buck Sexton]

I like. By the way, you know, there's a certain boldness that Clay exhibits on this front where he will just walk around and he'll get his haircut anywhere. I mean, Clay, there's. He. He'll go anywhere. Like, you know, he's in south Florida, where everyone here has, like, the fade, and it's shaved along the sides. And they did it to me once. Looked not good. Clay will go in anywhere. You know, he could be. He could be walking around Fairbanks, Alaska, and he's like, oh, look at that. Moose cuts. Let's go into moose cuts. And he'll go right in there.

[Clay Travis]

True. I go in and they say, like, what do you want? And inevitably, I say, well, I just want, you know, a decent haircut. I trust you to make me look, you know, decent, whether it's super cuts, whether it's the hotel, whether it's Miami, like, random barbershop as I'm walking along the street. And I think the end result here was positive. But did you try to cut your

[Buck Sexton]

own hair During COVID Did you ever try to cut your own hair?

[Clay Travis]

I lived in Tennessee. Nothing shut down.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, that's right. Damn it. I had. In New York, we had. I cut my own hair.

[Clay Travis]

I live in Franklin, Tennessee. My gym was open by May of 2020. Like, they never though. We basically did.

[Buck Sexton]

He's just rubbing it in now. He's just. He's just rubbing it. I look.

[Clay Travis]

Just didn't do it. My hair.

[Buck Sexton]

I started to look like Tom Hanks and Castaway with the hair, but then the rest of me was just getting really fat instead of getting really skinny. So if you imagine Tom Hanks, Castaway, but if he was just eating delivery pad thai and, like, lots and lots of Reese's pieces. That was kind of my vibe during

[Clay Travis]

COVID because we were just dances. By yourself in your apartment while claiming that you like Taylor Swift to all the single girls. You were DMing hurtful. Oh, I'm big T. Swift fan. I love, I love this new album. It's very, it's powerful.

[Buck Sexton]

She, she did it. Look, I, you know, she's got some decent tunes. This is like, this is a little bit like my Natalie Portman, which, by the way, most people agreed with me on. It's not that she's, I'm not saying she's ugly, I'm not a lunatic, I'm not blind. But she's just not that pretty. She's just not that pretty. Natalie. I mean, sorry, Taylor Swift, yes, she has captured a generation, but I do not think she will be a multi generational phenomenon the way that certain other musical acts, like for example, the Beatles have been. That's just my, that's my take. And also her, you know, and now I'm married and she's married. Or she know she's not married yet. She's about to get married, right?

[Clay Travis]

She get married to Travis Kelsey at the Super Bowl. Which is where? Not at the super bowl, but he's been at the Super Bowl a lot. I am leaving right now to go to San Francisco. You're going to close up shop. I've got to get to LAX and somehow fly on my southwest flight up to San Francisco.

[Buck Sexton]

Don't let anyone take that mustache away, all right? Don't let anyone touch you.

[Clay Travis]

Just let me through security.

[Buck Sexton]

This is Talk Back. I Pam from Anchorage, Alaska. Let's hear it. Clay. I want this on the record officially. I called this out months ago. Buck's shape shifting opinion about Taylor Swift.

[Clay Travis]

Don't ever doubt us OG Listeners.

[Buck Sexton]

To Buck Sexton, the Shields High crowd. We will give you the scoop. And if you go into moose cuts, tell them Pam sent you. Since seemingly I am the only listener in Alaska. Yeah, I know there's a. We got a lot of Alaska listeners actually, but I'm getting called out by OG Original Saturday squad here. Go back way, guys. I told you. Single Buck, a little more open to Taylor Swift than married Buck. And you know, I think we could all understand. All right. This is a different, different world I'm living in now. I, I, that's all I could say. That's the only defense I can offer up here. But a lot of you calling in to say that. I used to be a big T. Swift fan. I was a medium. I was a Medium T Swift fan feeling overwhelmed by stress and uncertainty. You're not alone, and encouragement is closer than you think. @intouch.org Dr. Charles Stanley's ministry provides powerful sermons, daily devotionals, and resources designed to strengthen your faith. It's more than information, it's transformation. Discover peace in the chaos, clarity in confusion, and practical wisdom for everyday life. Whether you're seeking hope, guidance, or simply a reminder of God's presence, InTouch.org is here for you. Visit today. You'll be glad you did.

[Sponsor Voice 2]

Tired of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe Annabe is the only designer sofa that's machine washable inside and out. Starting at just $699 plus Anibe sofas are pet friendly, stain resistant and feature changeable Slipcovers and modular pieces. Get up to 60% off site wide with a 30 day money back guarantee. Visit washablesofas.com to get yours. Now that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Clay Travis]

Flag football is exploding and iflag is leading the way as the Guinness World Record Holder. Iflag hosts premier flag football tournaments nationwide for boys, girls, high school girls and adults. From first time players to elite competitors, iflag delivers top level competition, unforgettable experiences and a community built around the game ready to be part of it. Join the movement, find your tournament and

[Buck Sexton]

learn [e-mail] that's iflag.org these days it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with

[Sponsor Voice 1]

Okta you'll turn risk into opportunity.

[Buck Sexton]

Secure every agent. Secure any agent. Okta secures AI this is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.