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It is Friday the 13th. Do not walk under any ladders. Make sure you dodge any black cats in your path. Do not say Candyman and then repeat that same thing several times into a mirror in the dark. What else am I missing, Clay? What are the other rules for superstition, the occult and Friday the 13th for
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those of us who grew up in a certain region? I don't think it was well known. We were told don't screw around with the Bell Witch. Have you ever heard of the Bell Witch legend? B E L L they kind of based. You remember the, the movie, the handheld movie back in the day.
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I mean, real talk here for a second. Real talk here, Clay. We're friends. Did you have a banjo growing up? Like, I feel like I
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they made the. They based the Blair Witch Project to a certain extent on some of the legacy of the Bell Witch. But back in the day when the Bell Witch was the one that we focused on the most and actually the Bell.
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What's the story of the Bell Witch? I don't know anything to tell me about it.
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Bell Witch is very famous. In fact, Andrew Jackson back in the day went to the home where the Bell Witch was supposedly haunting and there's a Bell Witch cave which you can still tour. I think it's kind of had a new life on YouTube because there's a lot of these kids, you know this, that go to the most haunted places and just take their own personal YouTube paraphernalia, film it. It's super popular. You know, I know they've done television shows about this, but it's. There's a certain genre of it on YouTube that my teenage boys have ended up following that has gotten a lot of attention. And so there's been, pardon the term, a resurrection of some of these old, you know, sort of ghost stories back in the day that have found a new life on. On social media, the Internet.
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Well written. So I'm not a horror genre guy in general, but I. And I a lot of it too. First of all, the older I get, actually, the less I'm okay with like really extreme violence in movies and things. I just. I don't want that negativity like entering my consciousness in my sphere. So I. Anything that I don't like the slasher genre is what I'm saying. The more occult, it's eerie. The writing that stuff I think can be. Can be very well done. And I think it's far more effective as actual horror than the like, you know, guy with like the Friday, the classic. They don't really make those movies anymore.
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But the Friday the 13th, back in
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the day slasher films, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Michael Myers, all that, that was a huge genre for a while because dollars in, dollars out, it may still be the case. I know it was the case that horror movies were the most profitable genre of film to be involved in. You think about it, what are your costs? Like fake blood, you know, a hockey mask, people.
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Yeah, the Bloom. I think it's. Jason Blumhouse has made a. It might be Blumhouse. I've read all about it. You're still right. The. The horror universe is the most profitable. Let me give you a couple of things here. The Conjuring movies are incredible. Have you watched the Conjuring movies and
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have not seen those? Have not seen them.
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I think you would like them because they're basically. It's about a husband and a wife. They are so well done. And it's really about their marriage as much. But they are. They're basically exorcists. They're investigating on behalf of religion, the idea of evil in the world. And I'm sure they're Hollywooded up, but they're based in reality on this husband and wife couple that this is what they did. They went and they investigated evil of a. Of a vile nature from a religious perspective. And the movies are supremely popular.
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That actually sounds like it's pretty good. Like I actually sounds like an interesting premise.
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Really. They are really well done. I don't know what percentage of this audience would have watched them. They're Scary.
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Was there ever a movie that you watched when you were younger as a kid that was so scary that you had to turn it off or like, you're like, I can't, I can't sit. I can't do this.
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Oh, It's Friday the 13th. I mean, sorry, really? No, sorry. Nightmare on Elm street when I was a little kid. Because Freddy came to you while you were sleeping. So if you were a kid and you got in bed and you had a wild imagination like I did, and you would be trying to go to sleep and you would think, I mean, that was what made, I think the Nightmare on Elm street movie so particularly well done was they were going to get you when you went to sleep so that you weren't even safe once you fell asleep. It was, that was the danger. Let me give you the conjuring are really good. Since It's Friday the 13th. Scream movies. I, I still really like the Scream movies.
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I think those are more crime thriller than they are horror. There's nothing super nat. It's really just a serial killer.
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Yeah. I mean, there's, it's typically stabbing, so, I mean, it's kind of nasty in the sense that you're getting stabbed with a knife.
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Yes. Stabbing is now, I'm just saying as
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a genre, they're not supremely gory to your point. So they're coming out with a new Scream, Scream 7. This is the seventh version of it. So I would say to a large extent, you're right. Like the.
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Would you make a cameo, Mr. Thespian, in Scream 7 if asked.
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People are coming after me for. People think that acting is awesome. That's what I thought. I was like, man, there's nothing cooler than being in a movie. It's really boring. You sit in a, you sit in like your little, you know, on set, you go out, you do the same thing 40 different times from 80 different angles. It's. It was like, this is not, it's not as fast paced as I thought.
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My mom is gonna, is gonna chuckle right now. But before she had to just do the mom thing full time. When she was early on married to my dad, she, she was on a soap opera, Doctors, which I told you about. For a season. She was a, she was a cast regular for a season. She was the starring role in a Hallmark movie, Summer of My German Soldier. She was in an. I mean, these were real, like, you know, kind of.
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Was she the one who dated the German soldier?
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Yes. Yeah. She was the love interest for the German soldier.
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Yeah.
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And, and so she was in a number of these things. So she did. She was a working actress. Like a person that was making a living acting. She says his work is brutal. It's a brutal profession because it's so fickle. And it was work. It's not all the stuff that people think about, like red carpet and everything else. That's the very end process. That's. That's signing the books at Barnes and Noble.
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My very limited. Yeah, that's. Yeah. My very limited time as involved in doing acting. And again, I've only done it in the context of being an adult. I love it.
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You're even talking about you doing acting. You played yourself.
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Yeah, come on. Come on. I played myself, but I. I have to say, I did an incredible job
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playing Travis, playing Clay Travis.
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This is hilarious. That's really very funny. I had never thought that I've only played myself in. In film and movie. I don't think I've ever played anybody else. But this mustache. There's no telling who I could play. But my point on it is, having done a limited amount of it, the idea that we give credence to actors. I spent one day in a trailer. You know, like, everybody goes and sits in their trailers or whatever the first time I ever did it, and I was like, why have I ever cared what anybody who did this for their. For a living? I'm not saying, look, there's great, you know, art that can be produced, all those things, but the idea that I would desperately care what somebody who sits around in a trailer and says the Same line from 40 different angles thinks about politics. I remember having that revelation where I thought it was way more challenging and impressive of a thing to do until.
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Clay. Clay. This is where I get to remind everybody. This is where the history nerd comes out. Actors throughout history were like a step above clowns and prostitutes.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not even sure a step above the clowns. Like, actors for thousands of years, going back to ancient Greece, were kind of a disreputable bunch. And it was really only with the rise of cinema in the 20th century. And then I would say in our. I think actors and music acts in our lifetime were elevated to their absolute pinnacle of prestige and power. And I think in the last decade, we have seen a dramatic decline because there's also so many other ways and so many other people who get famous now because of the online world we live in. So it has dispersed a lot. But I wanted to go back to horror for a second. So you said Friday 13th movies were scary.
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What is Nightmare on Elm street scary? That was the one that I couldn't sleep after watching. Friday 13th was fine, but Freddy Krueger was the one that I was like, I'm terrified of.
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I used. Whenever one of these movies would come on, even if it's flashed on for a second, if I was. My. My dad was around, he's always like, I would just take my double out buck and I'd finish this guy. He was always like. He was always like, jason's not that scary. I take my 45, a guy would be toast. I'm like, yeah, but that's like, not really the point. But anyway, tell me the scare for you. The scariest movie that you have ever seen is that really hits the peak of the sort of fear center in your brain when you're watching that movie. For me, there is one. And my mom, actually, my mom read to be in the movie as the starring role, by the way.
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Oh, wow.
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And I. Yeah.
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What was the movie for you?
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The Exorcist. No question. Number one. Still by far, the Exorcist.
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So I watched Paranormal Activity and I was afraid to go to sleep after watching it. This has probably been like 15 years ago. I was a grown up. I mean, back in the day when I was a kid, it was Freddy Krueger, but I watched. I think it was Paranormal Activity and my wife and kids. And again, this was like 15 years ago. Were out of the house and I was sleeping in the house by myself. So I went to go watch the movie by myself. My kids were out of town, my wife was out of town. And then I came back home and I turned on every light in the house and I barricaded the bedroom door before I went to sleep that night.
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As an adult.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was probably.
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Oh, dude.
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I was probably. Seriously, I was probably. Probably 30. It was about 15 years ago.
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Now I know why Lara's the one doing all the firearms training.
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Laura's on the ball with the firearms training. I turned on every light in the house and. And I put something in front of the bedroom door that. That was 30. I watched the Paranormal Activity movie. It was really, really scary.
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Wasn't that the most successful financial. Again, not most. There's not the most money that's like Avatar in these big movies, but dollars in, dollars out as a percentage of profits.
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Nothing to make. And it was insanely profitable as a hit.
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I always. My story about the Blair Witch Project is I was a junior counselor, so I think I was like 16 at a. A camp in Vermont. And when it would rain, it was all outdoor stuff. We had these little. When it would rain, what do we do? We'd go into Burlington, we'd go into town and we'd go to a movie. And the older counselor, who was like 19 or 20, who was like the main counselor, he was a crazy guy from New Zealand who was definitely like a little nuts. And he was like, oi, let's go, let's go take the kids to Blair Witch Project. And I was like, they're like 14, dude. Like, you really were gonna take all these 14 year old kids? The Blair, he was the adult. I was, I was still in a camp. And he almost, I will tell you, he almost got fired and like sent home over it. Because I actually, I was not just saying this now. I was like, I think. I'm not gonna say his name is Like. I was like, I think, dude, this is not a good idea. And he's like, oh. He basically pulled rank on me. He's like, that's fine. These kids. He bows will be good. Let's go. And I was like, I don't know, Clay. We had to go back to a dark, rainy campsite that night. And the kids, the 13 and 14 year old kids, were shaking like leaves after watching without that at all.
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That seems like. By the way, Brian in Florida is with us. He's a former actor. I mean, if. Let me put it this way, if you're a professional baseball player or a basketball player, football player, it's awesome, right? A professor. That, that job is really cool. You get to play games, golfer, whatever. It is. Like, I can see why people would aspire to it. I've gotten to cover it. I've thought to myself, this would be something really fun to do. I'm not kidding. Acting, I don't think would be a very funny, a very fun job.
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That's why most actors are weirdos. But Brian, go ahead. Yes.
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First of all, you guys got me cracking up during this. You brought up Jason Blum. I actually did productions with Jason Blum. But Clay, I will say, chased both of those dreams. I was a college athlete. I did try to pursue playing major league baseball. I fell short. I was a little older. I came out of high school to the military, but I was doing like modeling down in Miami, where Buck is before, as a teenager, then got into business. And then when I came home from the military, I was like, oh, let me go. I, you know, went to junior college in lacc, started playing ball. And then I was Doing my Hollywood stuff. And. And you're so right. Like, I. I was just caught up in it, trying to chase the dream, really, for my family. And then you learn, like, these people are a bunch of communist idiots and demonic and. And, like, it was just. Yeah, it's not fun. It's not the, like, how they put on that perspective of, oh, it's such a. It's. It's highly lit. No, it's. Man, it's brutal.
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It's.
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Everything you guys were saying was wanted on the money and. And low key. When I, you know. Well, let me tell you, I played on a baseball league with James Vanderbeek. He was very kind. He was a very humble man. He. He actually never acted like he was better than anybody. He was a shortstop on our team. I was first base. But. And so a lot, like, you kind of talk to these guys a little, and you. Like me, I was kind of open about being a conservative. I didn't care. Like, my career ended pretty quick once President Trump was coming down the escalators. I was avid voice, and Hollywood's like, well, we can't have this crazy MAGA guy in here. And then I ran when I found out, really, the undercover is when I ran for United States Congress during the China virus in 2020, and I was never wearing a mask in California. I would have a lot of these actors, like, send me a message, bro. Like, that's awesome, man. Like, I can't really come out publicly and. And support you because my career would be over, but, like, go for it. But you guys are so right. You guys are cracking me up because it is, like, who I wanted to be, a baseball player. That was my, like, like you said, Clay, you're. You're out there playing ball. You're playing a game, doing something you love to do. Acting. Yeah, it's fun being different characters and different things like that. But you, like, you said you're sitting sometimes on set for hours, bro. Like, yeah, you're see. You're seeing, like, oh, let's cut, and then we got to do it again. And then you didn't even get to really get in there. And then you got to wait again for that Sc. And sometimes the actor could not even say this stupid line or two, right? Then they got to cut that, and then you're waiting for them to redo the lighting or even if you're outside, then you got to wait for the lighting even outside to get. I'm like, oh, my gosh.
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Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Look, if you could do a scene one time and be done with it, I would say okay, this is better. I can understand why doing a like Broadway play would be pure because you do it for two hours, that's it, you're gone. But the actual production of movies for people who dream of being an actor in Hollywood and stuff like that, the actual mechanics of it in my limited experience is awful.
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Come on. No.
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Oh boy. Yeah, I know my golf swing is off today. It's just a lesson.
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Loosen up, champ.
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Can't. I think I might have gotten away with something I shouldn't have.
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Heck are you talking about?
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and Buck all right, Clay, you know I don't want to, I don't want you to miss out on this one. You're very excited to tell everybody that our crack team of researchers has found something that you think is an argument ender. You, you, you are of the mind that this is just pure vindication of your position on a controversial topic recently. I will let you take it away from here, but I will just let you know Buck island is not so easily submerged under the lapis blue waves of the ocean, my friend.
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I. I got to give credit to the the diligent production team at Clay and Buck Because I had no idea that this was even out there. And so I want to make sure that I get this right. But I said last. Was it last week. I think last week I made the indisputable argument that Taylor Swift was the Beatles of her era. And many of you, you disagreed with that because you were wrong and I was right. But I was willing to take the slings and arrows of disagreement as I generally am. But then guess what has happened. Ringo Starr, kind of a famous guy. Former beetle Ringo Starr. Ringo Starr came out Buck and he said Taylor Swift is this generation's Beatles. Cut 23.
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Do you think what's happening with Taylor
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Swift could be the closest thing to
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Beatlemania for this generation? I do. I think Taylor Swift is great anyway. Yeah. And she's pulling them in, you know. And when we talk about her, I always have to mention that the first time I met her, she was 14 and she was at the Grammys with her mother.
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Taylor is the, the now one.
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All right. A few things.
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All right. The Beatles themselves, endorsing.
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Hold on, hold on. A Beatle. A Beatle said the closest thing today. Have you heard music today, Clay? I mean like it's. Yes. Is Taylor Swift closer to the Beatles than Bad Bunny? Sure, I'm closer to the Beatles than Bad Bunny. Alright, so it's, it's not quite as cut and dry as you want to say. I'm also, I'm not trying to get rough here with Ringo, but I mean, of the Beatles, like really, Paul McCartney comes out and says this. I'd put a little more stuff. Ringo. It's like, does anyone even remember this guy was in the Beatles?
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Come on, get Ringo had no idea he was going to take this kind of attack. Can we put in. Probably did not anticipate me saying this. I. They probably won't come on. But can we put a request to Ringo Starr, Paul McCartney and any other member of the Beatles to come on the show and analyze whether Taylor Swift is a modern day Beetle? By the way, we're going to break, but we have another popular musician that is also on Team Clay Travis about Taylor Swift as the Beatles. Modern day. And we will play that for everyone out there when we return. Buck. But I would.
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But you see the, the, the frenzy of like a Beatlemania that, that is, that is a temporal. That is a temporary situation. The real question is, does it stand the test of time as a giant of the music genre with enormous influence on countless other bands?
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He just said he met her when she was 14. She's already had a 20 year career. This is extraordinary.
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I mean, look, it's, this is not like a controversial position for someone who lives in Nashville. I'm just going to say a lot of, a lot of, a lot of Tennessee love coming Taylor Swift's way. That's, that's not a shock. The Sunday hang is brought to you by Chalk natural supplements for guys, gals
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before I eviscerate you with more brilliant analysis here of Taylor Swift's career. This is actually pretty funny. My youngest son, he asked me this week, this is a quote from him, is Valentine's Day just a day where boys have to get girls things and if we don't, we're in trouble? And I absolutely love this because when you're a little kid, if you remember, Valentine's Day is actually pretty even, right? Like you're a little boy, you're a little girl, you get to go exchange Valentine's Day, you know, cards, notes, the little cool cards. Back in the day, everybody, boys and girls, mom and dad primarily. Mom may get you like a chocolate of some sort, like the ten pound bunny, which you saw that I, that I bought at Costco, which is not technically Valentine's. It's an Easter bunny, but, but there's lots of cool chocolate gifts and bunny rabbits and whatever's going on for, for Easter, for. Sorry. For Valentine's Day. And then as you get older, you realize, wait a minute, Valentine's Day is just a test for all men where basically there is no real reward. You just try to avoid disaster. And I don't know, how many Valentine's Day dates did you have as a single man? Were you a Valentine's Day. How did you know? Married for so long, I never really had to go through a ton of these. But what, what did you.
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It's, it's treacherous. It's treacherous ground for the single man. Because if you're, you know, at what phase is it expected versus when is it clingy for you to do something on Valentine? Like if it's a, you know, if it's like a third date. I don't think you do anything on Valentine's Day. You know, if you're at like that
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third date phase, maybe right early you can overdo it.
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If you're right. I mean, you don't want to be the guy who's like, hey, next week's Valentine's and I'm sending, you know, $400 of roses to your front door. That's a little weird. So, you know, it's tough. I'll just tell you guys this, though. Carrie and I already had our Valentine's Day dinner. I refuse. I'm willing to celebrate the romance with the one that, you know, matters. Matters most to you in the, in the world and your romantic partner. I'm. I'm willing to play this game, ok? So people don't feel left out. That's fine. But this notion that I have to do it on the same Saturday night as every other poor schlub in the country like me who would be dragged out to restaurants, that this is, this is the true reality of Valentine's Day. Restaurants give you their C game at best. They roll out prefix menus. So all of a sudden, you're paying twice as much for some cheap sparkling white wine that they're going to call champagne in a tiny little glass and some rubber chicken that you have no choice. It's rubber chicken or, like, pasta that they brought in. All of a sudden, you're having banquet food. Whatever restaurant you go to, they're downscaling you, but they're up charging you and you have no choice. In fact, you're supposed to be grateful for getting the reservation because it's Valentine's Day, my friends. This is a scam. This is a scam, gentlemen. Don't fall for it. Take your woman or take your man. Whatever. Take him out tonight. Make Valentine's Day Friday your move. Because if you're going out to restaurants anywhere across the country, you're going to have people trying to sell you roses at the table that you don't want to deal with. You're going to have people that are trying to get you on the prefix menu. You're paying a lot more. You're going to wait. And you know what happens when the service is bad on Valentine's Day? You have a salty server. They go, sorry, it's Valentine's Day. They think it's amateur night, and they treat it as such. It's like going out on New Year's Eve to dinner. You're getting scammed. And I'm here to tell you, go out tonight or go out for Valentine's Day brunch on Sunday. Value, baby. Get your value.
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I hope that some of the men that do not have Valentine's Day dinner dates booked use that buck argument and take your girls on Friday or Sunday. I always say this. It is never ending. The guy who goes into the restaurant and tries to get seated without a reservation On Valentine's Day, I may have been that guy before. You go to like eight different restaurants and you're like, how long's the wait? They're like four hours. And we can seat you at 10:45. Like, that doesn't seem very good. And you have to keep getting back in the car. She's like, oh, look at all these other guys who thought ahead and made a plan and they actually like their wives or girlfriends. It's just. And I want to thank my friend Chad, who is a listener of the program. I have got a Valentine's Day dinner down here because of him. He's a big fan of the show. I appreciate him taking care of me. So I'm going out on Valentine's Day. But I gotta tell you, if you didn't get reservations months ago at a lot of places, you're basically done for. And so telling you guys gonna be a lot of guys that are in a tough spot here, you know?
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C
And honestly, I mean, if you're a big Olive Garden guy, fine. But, like, don't feel like you have to just do whatever and go to the Olive Garden on Valentine's Day because everything else is booked. Tell your wife, tell your husband, whatever we're dealing with here. Hey, why don't we celebrate tomorrow? It's not actually anyone's birthday, ok? Or rather, you're not celebrating someone's birthday. You can move the day and have your own beautiful celebration and not pay 50 to 100% more for whatever it is that you're doing trying to go to the spa. But what do you think it's like trying to get a spa appointment on Valentine's Day, Clay? Not that I would know, but it's really hard.
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It's impossible. I mean, you basically had to make a spa appointment a year ago, which is why I think my youngest son is right. Ultimately, all Valentine's Day is designed to do is blow men up. Now there's very little benefit. And so anyway, It's Friday the 13th, which also may be ominously accurately, is the eve of Valentine's Day, if you have not already made your plans. All right. It's also ominous for Buck. We just heard from the legendary musician Ringo Starr, endorsing my argument that Taylor Swift is a modern day beetle. But some people said, well, what do we care about Ringo? He's only a beetle. What could he know? How about Gene Simmons? How about Gene Simmons, legendary rock star, all lining up behind me? Cut 22.
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C
There's nothing. And I mean nothing. And I think it's true for most bands to seeing the. The lights come on in the eyes of a young child who just becomes enthralled. Just like, like in the Exorcist. When the demon enters you, your whole body, you live, Kiss you, breathe, Kiss you. It's more than music. And the only analogy I can point to is the Swifties of today. Yes, the songs are cool and she's wonderful, we know her. But it's more than that. It's almost a gathering of the tribes. The Beatles had that. It was called Beatlemania. We loved the Stones, we loved Hendrik. That didn't exist. They were just popular, really popular. But when there's something else going on, it is a. It's almost cultish. A lot of people have cult followings in music. Fish has a cult following. Dave Matthews Band has a cult following. Give me the, you know, Grateful Dead as a cult following. Yeah, they don't have 15 year old girls all thinking that Dave Matthews is like the, you know, the queen of the princesses or whatever. But this is, you know, first of all, Gene Simmons. I'm. Now I'm just going to start stepping in it. But Kiss, is that even really a music act? Is it kind of more of like, you know, like musical theater or something? Like some theatrical thing with the face paint and everything? I don't think anyone's like, wow, the music of Kiss really endures. Get out of here.
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B
I just think when you consider legendary musicians and they line up with me, it just proves the, the legitimacy of my argument here.
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C
No, I think that these are old guys who want relevancy today. And so of course they're going to lean in on what the big act of the moment is. But the timelessness argument that is being made here, I mean, I've just that that's really. And also the impact on music as, as a genre. I just, I don't see it. I don't see it. I'm sorry. I wish, I wish I could go along on this one.
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I don't.
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C
But I don't think Taylor Swift is bad. I just think she's overrated.
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B
Well, as also our illustrious team of. Of researchers pointed out, you used to be a Swiftie form this.
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C
I mean, I like when I was a single guy, you know, he's kind of pretty. I thought she was kind of pretty. So I was a little, you know, a little bit. Threw me off my game here.
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B
We had with this. It took a few days, but then coming out of the woodwork, I know old school buck listeners and they're like, wait a minute, this is. He's singing a different tune here. As Taylor Swift, I say, why you got to be so mean? Wait.
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C
Jay in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, wants to weigh in on Ringo Starr. Jay, let it rip.
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F
Hey, Clay, I thought you were a common sense conservative, but clearly you sound like AOC with this argument. The Beatles. I could name seven or eight albums, every single song on that album. You ask someone walking down the street to say a couple of lines, they'll be able to say a line. Taylor Swift. Are you kidding me? I, I, the only song I know is one that you mentioned on the radio, and I couldn't name one of the lines.
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B
I will, to be fair. Jay, how old are you?
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F
Argument.
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B
How old are you, Jay?
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F
57.
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B
Okay, you're 57. Every single woman.
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C
Let him light them up, Jay.
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Octogenarians who are just trying to appease their hosts.
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C
Get him, Jay. Get him, Jay. Right, Jay. I'm with you, Jay. Jay, don't let anyone take away your fire, my friend.
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B
I'm with you. Got so fired up there going after Ringo Starr. By the way, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, great place. Happens to be the hometown of one Laura Travis, just north in Oakland County. She went to school in Bloomfield. But let me, let me say this, Jay. You're 100% wrong. And every, every single woman, every young girl, you go 15 to 45, every single one of them can name a Taylor Swift song. There is not a 15 to 45 year old woman girl in America that cannot name a Taylor Swift song. It's just Jay is 57 and male. I get it. This is not his wheelhouse. I happen as a 47 year old, 46v47 year old man to just be able to channel well.
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C
But can I point out, though, Clay, you're actually making a problem, I think, for your own argument here, which is you're saying all these women, all these women. Listen. Taylor Swift, Everybody listened to the Beatles. It wasn't a male ver. You're, you're referring more to Beatlemania and sort of taking that as a. The Beatles as a musical phenomenon were both global and, But I think Beatles
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B
would have been more popular with women back in the day than they were men too, right? Probably a 70, 30 fan base in the early days.
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C
I don't think, I don't think when you get to, like, Abbey Road and you get to the White Album, I, I wouldn't say it was necessarily a lot more women than men.
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B
Yeah, maybe not.
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C
Maybe so.
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B
I mean, I think there to be Fair. There are a lot of men in that 15 to 45 year old window, such as Buck Sexton himself, who were also fans of Taylor Swift at some point during that window.
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C
Well, she had, she had an advantage before this Kelsey, this Travis Kelsey fellow came along with his big muscles and his manly beard.
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Grant in Minnesota. Grant, what you got for us?
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F
First of all, I want to apologize for Minnesota.
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B
Well, thank you.
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F
You guys talk about the Beatles. You know, they're fabulous musicians. When they broke up, though, all four of them went their separate ways. Ringo Starr had the most number one hits on the charts.
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B
He was the most successful of the post Beatles. I don't know that to be true. I appreciate the call. That is Grant's argument. We'll look into that. Monty says, look, I said we could get Paul McCartney, we could get Ringo Starr on Monty. Talk back. G.
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C
Clay, the other Beatles, John Lennon died in 1980 and George Harrison died in 2001. So I don't think you're gonna have any luck getting a hold of them.
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B
Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are still alive. That's what I'm saying. We got to get one of those two guys. By the way, do you know how America became by and large aware that John Lennon died? Do you know who announced live on television that John Lennon had been killed? And when it happened in 1980, for huge swathes of the American population anyway, probably not going to know. Buck, any, any guess about how who delivered the news of John Lennon's death to the largest audience of Americans when it occurred?
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C
I don't know. You were, you were in your 30s. I was not yet born.
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B
Good trivia. I was a baby. John Lennon's death announced by Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football. During the course of that Monday Night Football game, he came on and said, hey, basically I have this awful news to report to all of you. Howard Cosell. A lot of people wouldn't anticipate that that was the case. Was the guy who broke the news to the largest group of Americans that, that John Lennon had been killed.
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C
That's, that's kind of a tough turn for me here, but. Okay, okay. Thanks, Clay, for that trivia. It's a real, real bummer, you know.
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F
Three seconds remaining.
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C
John Smith is on the line and
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F
I don't care what's on the line, Howard, you.
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C
We have got to say what we know in the book. Yes, we have to say it. Remember, this is just a football game. No matter who wins or loses, an unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News. In New York City, John Lennon outside of his apartment building on the west side of New York City, the most famous perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival. Hard to go back to the game after that News flash. Do you, do you agree that, is that, is that really an announcement you make during a football game? It's a, I don't think it is
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B
a tough transition to expect an announcer.
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C
I mean it's the pre social media era. So I guess you could say that maybe people were expecting to get, get news from wherever they were of something of that kind of, you know, flash breaking news magnitude. But you know what I'm saying, it's a little bit like remember when they broke in with O.J. during the.
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B
I think what they would do today, and they may not have had the technology to do it in 1980, is if they felt compelled to break in and give that news, they would go to a newscaster, they would say, hey, we're going to go live to insert location here. I would point out that this came on the heels buck, if you remember, I mean the Winter Olympics are going on right now, but 1974 in Munich, much of that was largely covered by sports people. When the Jewish, the Israeli Olympic Olympians were taken hostage, people who were there to cover that event were sports people. And suddenly they had to pivot in real time to being on air for massive amounts of hours to cover a truly serious story. I think sports would get exposed far faster today than it did back then because I think the average news person was more intelligent and well versed in larger society than they are today.
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C
Well, thanks Captain. Womp womp. Happy Friday the 13th everybody. Great way to end the show here with Clay. Getting some really intense stuff. We got assassinations, we got terrorist attacks.
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