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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
We will not get into White Lotus right now because I don't think that many of you watch it. And I don't want to argue with Clay about whether it's worth continuing to watch White Lotus. After the most recent episode, I was pretty horrified. I'm just going to say, I looked at Carrie. I'm like, I don't think I can do this anymore.
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Clay Travis
It is clear that I have a darker sensibility when it comes to television. Like I can put up with more than you or producer Ali can when it comes to down the rabbit hole. Crazy.
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Buck Sexton
I do not do well with, you know, maybe my mind is more like a delicate flower these days when it comes to my content and entertainment. I don't like things that are too violent. I don't like things that are too bawdy, perhaps. Is that the right word? I got him to choke on his Crockett. I got him to choke on his Crockett coffee. Look at that. That was awesome.
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Clay Travis
I almost spit my Crockett coffee out. Everywhere you go. Body. Were you born in 1924?
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Buck Sexton
You know, I'm just saying sometimes, you know, some of us are more comfortable seeing.
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Clay Travis
Sometimes there's too many. There's too many bucks in the television shows of late that you're watching.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Bunch of, bunch of ladies out there being a little too. A little too frisky. On the television. My liking. So, you know, it's a little, little.
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Clay Travis
My wife, I will say this my wife has had to deal with for the past 20 years. Every time there's an HBO show, you know, they give a content warning before the show and it'll say like there's nudity. And I'll be like, yes. Because it used to be. I literally pumped my fist like, yes, this is going to be a good show. My wife's had to deal with this for 20 years. Of late. All of the nudity I see in my shows is male. I don't know when they flip. It's not. Not anywhere near as enjoyable. I will say used to be almost all nudity was female. The last like have you noticed this like the last three or four years in quote unquote prestige Television, it's always naked guys now. And a lot of it is not very enjoyable. So I'm not. The first 15 years of HBO shows it was like, okay, probably going to be some good looking naked girls in this show. I'm excited. Even more now. Not a lot more nude guys. Not as enjoyable for me.
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Buck Sexton
So let's talk Snow White. Snow White was at one point the, the first, I believe the first full length animated feature released in theaters back in 1937. Am I, if I get any of these wrong team, let me know. It was wildly popular and the, you know, the Disney so much of. I think like the Disney really had two things going for it for a long time. People love the parks. Fine. I know the parks have become very expensive now, but people love the parks and they love the animated, those, those animated features. I mean I grew up and we've all seen I think 90. What do you think 95% of our listeners have seen the original Snow White, the original cartoon.
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Clay Travis
I don't know how you wouldn't have.
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Buck Sexton
Right. I mean and if you didn't see it when you were a kid, you have kids, you've seen it, right? So one. And it's really an iconic, it's an iconic animated film. And I think Disney had a number of these over the years. You know, Sleeping Beauty I actually really like. Some of you are going to laugh, but I really liked the Robin Hood with Robin Hood as a fox. Do you know what I'm talking about as a cartoon?
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Clay Travis
I love that growing up. Peter Pan, you're my favorite along with Robin Hood.
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Buck Sexton
Great animation, great music, great stories. This is stuff that everyone really celebrates, is a really amazing part of American culture.
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Clay Travis
Let me hit you with a detail that will bring home how profitable Snow White was. And you may have had. I was reading because I wanted to do my research on this too. Snow White, adjusted for inflation dollars basically made the Walt Disney Company Disney. Walt Disney mortgaged his own home to be able to finish producing Snow White because it was so expensive at that point in time to make an animated film. It made $4 billion. OK, let me repeat that because with a B $4 billion in modern American money. So this thing was so outrageously popular that it basically funded Disneyland eventually Disney World. This was what put Disney on the map as a global corporation that was capable of churning out incredible content. This was what they created, the animation studios, everything. So it is not only beloved Buck, it is one of the greatest, most successful commercial art products in the history of the United States.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, that puts it into context very well. And I remember I saw with my parents in the theaters Lion King. Oh yeah, Ladden. Beauty and the Beast. Beauty the Beast is a great movie. It's a great animated. It was actually nominated for best picture, not best animated Feature, Best Movie the year that it came out. The music is excellent. Look, I know some people, cartoons aren't their thing, but I think cartoons, I actually think cartoons can be really impressive and amazing if they're done well. I like the old cartoons, even with Bugs Bunnies, but Bugs Bunny put that aside. Clay, this new Disney. If you and I sat here scripting out a way to ruin Disney to do a a like a farce or a a a send up if you will of wokeness. I don't know if we could have done better than this. They have, they have changed. There's a whole listing of all these things. They've changed. They have changed the dwarves and this was. Ok, I think this is my favorite part of this. First of all, it made $40 million opening weekend which is an absolute abject disaster. As we've talked about here, all the movies money comes in the first month and a lot of it needs to come in the first weekend for momentum. Remember, people haven't seen it now. People have seen it. They say it stinks. They say it's trash. So next weekend's going to be worse and the weekend after that's going to be worse. This is going to cost Disney hundreds of millions of dollars. Yes, when all said hundreds of millions of dollars of pure loss on this. But the fun. What is your favorite thing about the change they made? That they wouldn't use actual dwarf actors because Peter Dinklage, who had probably the greatest dwarf role of all time in Game of Thrones. Did a very good job in it. But I think, you know, a little too, a little too high on his own stuff here. A little too big, big for his britches.
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Clay Travis
Literally.
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Buck Sexton
He, yeah, he decided, he decided that it was weird and out of date to have actual dwarves play dwarves. So they replaced them with CGI dwarves and dwarf actors out there. And there are dwarf actors out there are, we're and I totally agree with them, furious about this because this is like the chance of a lifetime to be in a globally, you know, resonating film as a dwarf actor. It's like they, this is wokeness just eating itself.
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Clay Travis
They could have made a movie that was a 90 years basically later a nostalgic recreation of the spirit that imbued the original Snow White which made the Disney Corporation possible. But because they have decided that they need to be woke Disney, they created an awful version of a movie that many people would have loved of all races and all backgrounds. And I think this is going to be, I think you said it well at the end of the last hour. I think this is going to be seen as a cultural signpost of what woke can do to great Americana. And Disney has to a large extent destroyed Star wars by trying to wokeify it as. Look, I don't begrudge any story that is like Lost. Lost was a great television show back in the day. It also happened to have a diverse set of characters but it fit the story. Right. It's an airplane that crashes on an island. It would make sense that the airplane would be filled with a cross section of American life. Right?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. The airplane wasn't coming from Finland. Like yes, there would be lots of different kinds of people on the plane.
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Clay Travis
So the idea that Snow White needs to be replaced with a Latina actress or that Captain America needs to be replaced with a black actor or that you need to somehow decide that you are going to change the historic relevancy of a show because it doesn't meet modern day standards of diversity. I think is going up in smoke. And the example I'll give of this that I think is actually the worst two of them. Hamilton. All right. I, I, I, I've made it clear that I'm not a huge fan of musicals. Ok. But I don't like the idea of hey, we're going to make American historical figures different races because races are so inconsequential. Ok, when is the country and western version of the Obama administration going to occur with Blake Shelton playing Barack Obama? Right.
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Buck Sexton
When? Why is it that in Hamilton, the one bad guy is the only white guy. The king of. Why can't the king of England be black? What am I missing?
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Clay Travis
And this whole shock.
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Buck Sexton
What's the messaging there? Everybody, you know, I do look at these things. Well, what's the message they're telling people with this?
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Clay Travis
And then what is the Pride and Prejudice or what's the Bridgerton, I think is the show that's on Netflix and it's about 17th and 18th century England, except there are all these different races that are playing the British actors. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't even pay attention to that show because I'm like, well, it's set in 1780s England. These are white people, right? Like, in the same way, if you give me a story about Nigeria in 1640 and there's a bunch of white people playing black people. I mean, I don't. I can't really get into this story. It's so flagrantly historically inaccurate.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I was trying to watch on. I love historical. My brothers make fun of me. They always say if there's like beard swords and mead drinking, I like it. You know, which is pretty much true. Like, I like anything that's, you know, historical piece European history. I love Gladiator. I love Braveheart. I love those kinds of things. And I tried to watch on Netflix this show, Viking show, and there is a jarl, which is like an earl or a prince or whatever. In Vikings, in the. I guess it was the 9, you know, 9th century, the 800s. It's a black woman who's the. Who's cast as the head of this. And it's supposed to be like a historic. These are real people's names.
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Clay Travis
Is she supposed to be black, or are you not supposed to notice that she's black?
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Buck Sexton
I think I only watched the first episode. I think you're just not supposed to notice. Like, it's just, oh, like we've made her a black female. And you made him. It was actually a guy, obviously, who was the jarl. So you make it a female and you make it a black female because you think. Clay, people are so sick of this. To your. The point you're making Game of Thrones, another show, very diverse. Nobody has a problem with diverse characters in. In whether it's fiction or even fantasy genre, that's fine. But when you're setting something in a historical context, you know, you would think that there are some basic authenticity components of it that you would likely. If you're setting a show In Iceland in, you know, the year 1000, you're not going to have a lot of Latinos. You're just not going to have them. Like, it's not a, it's not a knock on Latinos. They liked being warm. They were not in Iceland.
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Clay Travis
If we watched a story about the Civil War, my favorite part in history, and there was a character playing Frederick Douglass and it was a white woman, I would be like, you know, this has taken me a little outside of the story because Frederick Douglass was a black guy. Right. Like, some level of historical accuracy for historic fact seems necessary to me. And this is an example of what Disney has done. I think they have taken something that people loved and decided that they needed to make it more expansive when everybody already loved it.
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Buck Sexton
Right. Well, also they. Then the way we didn't even get into all the different ways. So first, the dwarves are cgi, which is. I also think CGI in general ruins movies. I think it should be used very sparingly. To me, it's like drops on a radio show. Like, you can use them here and there, but it can't be, you know, like, like if you have, you know, you know what I'm talking about. If you have a radio show, that's all just sound effects all the time, you start to be like that, you know, that Kramer guy on the, with the, you know, the finance show, whatever. It's like Hong Kong, Hong Kong. I mean, it's just too much. You gotta be very sparing with your cgi. So that's what CGI DWAR is. Horrible idea. They changed the music. They've changed the musical numbers from the. Basically the most successful on screen musical of all time. Close to it, maybe, maybe like the Sound of Music or, you know, Gone with the Wind. But they changed the music, which is, which is madness. And I must just say this, this woman is playing the Disney princess. She just doesn't look like it. She's just not that pretty. She doesn't look like a Disney princess. I don't know. You know, am I, am I alone in this one? I don't.
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Clay Travis
I think if they had put Sydney Sweeney in as Snow White, it would have made $1 billion.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
I mean, just give me a really pretty white chick and let her actually play the role of Snow White. I mean, the crazy thing was a.
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Buck Sexton
Really pretty, A really pretty chick. Like, I just don't think this woman is Disney PR material. I'm sorry, I'm just.
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Clay Travis
How about the fact that Gal Gadot is way better looking and way More looks like Snow White, but she's the evil princess.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, yes.
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Clay Travis
That's a weird decision too, right?
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Buck Sexton
She's Disney princess kind of material. And, and you, you know, if you're just.
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Clay Travis
She was Wonder Woman. Okay.
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Buck Sexton
You're allowed to want pretty people to play the Disney princess or, or the queen or whatever.
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Unknown Speaker
So it's true that some things change as we get older. But if you're a woman over 40 and you're dealing with insomnia, brain fog, moodiness and weight gain, you don't have to accept it as just another part of aging. And with MITI health, you can get help and stop pushing through it alone. The experts at MITI understand that all these symptoms can be connected to the hormonal changes that happen around menopause. And MITI can help you feel more like yourself again. Many healthcare providers aren't trained to treat or even recognize menopause symptoms. MIDI clinicians are menopause experts. They're dedicated to providing safe, effective, FDA approved solutions for dozens of hormonal symptoms, not just hot flashes. Most importantly, they're covered by insurance. 91% of MITI patients get relief from symptoms within just two months. You deserve to feel great. Book your virtual Visit today@joinmitti.com that's joinmidi.com.
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Clay Travis
Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
Biggest box office bombs in history. Stealth 2005, adjusted for inflation, lost $155 million. That was when Jessica Biel was really at her at her absolute peak. And that did not help. She ended up marrying Justin Timberlake. So I guess she did okay, but that did not help her career. Um, I'm trying to see who else is on this list of notable. There's. So there's, there's a lot of them. And the thing is, I think all of the movies that are on the bomb list are, are terrible. So that's the thing. It's not there. The Adventures of Pluto Nash, 2002, Eddie Murphy. $168 million loss, adjusted for inflation that may. That's like a top contender for all time losses. Clay. Heaven's Gate 1980. I've never seen that. I don't even know who's that. I think it's a Western kind of. Some kind of like a western on the prairies pioneer movie or something. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I've heard the name of the title, but I didn't know.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, there's, there's a bunch of these. A lot of them I've never even really heard Of I'll tell you one.
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Clay Travis
And again, I think it's important to adjust these things for inflation. If you're wondering, it's because Indiana Jones.
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Buck Sexton
And the dial of destiny. $150 million loss. I didn't know that.
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Clay Travis
I went and saw it. It was not great. Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor Fox lost. 20th Century Fox lost so much money on that movie that they had to sell off part of the movie lot. If you're in LA right now and you wonder like the whole Century City development, the Westfield Mall, all of that area. They lost so much money making the Cleopatra movie that they had to sell off acres of the studio.
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Buck Sexton
Cutthroat Island 1995, which is. I think Matthew Modine and geena Davis lost $217 million and goes down with the ignominious distinction of being the only movie in history that it is believed to have brought down the studio. Bankrupted the studio, that is.
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Clay Travis
That's when you're. That's when you got a lot of money at stake. Couple of ones that I remember. And we're talking about this in the context of the Disney. Yeah, Snow White disaster, Waterworld. Remember Kevin Costner? That was like one of the all time losers.
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Buck Sexton
That's an asterisk though. Because my understanding is that they made the sets for real out on the water and there was a big storm and destroyed everything that they had made. So that was a rough one. And I don't know if they really had the insurance they needed for it. So. Because that movie is not good. Have you seen it? Yeah, it is not good, but it is not awful. I would say it. It is like it is set. Almost watchable, not quite watchable.
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Clay Travis
Wild Wild West. Will Smith movie was a supposedly an unmitigated disaster. But a lot of these have two things in common. One is their big risks. Like Kevin Costner, I'm going to build a water world. Frankly, James Cameron has has panned out with a lot of what he has done. But you know, when you do the Titanic, it's not exactly a cheap thing to make. When you make what's the movies that have made so much money. The Avatars, billions of dollars on those big swings. Okay. You shouldn't lose massive amounts of money remaking something that everyone loves. Like that's the entire purpose of the remake is you can't lose the way you have a template on this. You can't lose money.
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Buck Sexton
They think west side story in 2021 lost $120 million. Adjust inflation. The bot. How do you. How do you make a West side Story remake that totally bombs. That's. I don't even know how that's possible.
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Clay Travis
Well, I would have told you a musical on television. Now, they did make a lot of money on Wicked, but.
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Buck Sexton
And Chicago. Chicago was a big hit.
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Clay Travis
West side story is what, 60, 70 years old? Are there tons of people out there clamoring to go see that? I would have called that into question. The Snow White failure is to me again, why I think it's so fascinating is I think it represents an era. Everybody loved Snow White. You find a pretty girl, you cast her as Snow White. If you're deciding to do remakes, live action, which I think is, you know, it's lazy, right? Like, do we really need to see a live action remake of the Lion King, which is mostly CGI because it's got animals in it. But you create this disaster and it's so foreseeable. And it follows Buck in Everybody loves Star Wars. Let's light Star wars on fire, everybody. They built the Marvel franchise up and then they lit it on fire. It's like they can't figure out how to go. Once the Infinity War Avengers endgame thing ended, it's like everything has been on the backside of that a disaster. I just. And the newest. The newest Indiana Jones people had issues with. I went and watched it. But you took what made Indiana Jones great, his rugged individuality, and you instead brought in a girl boss who was like leading Indiana Jones around. And a lot of people said, I watch Indiana Jones because he's the badass. I don't need like a new character to be the leader here.
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Buck Sexton
James in Texas wants to weigh in about Disney. James, welcome. You know, and the thing about it is is Disney would have already known that the projection opening weekend for Snow White was going to be bad because they base it off of pre ticket sales. So they already knew this as of a couple of weeks ago. And I believe I saw on the news as of last week that it was put before the Disney board to slow down or make changes to their DEI woke program. And the board turned that down. They said keep it the same.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, thank you for the call. I'm not sure about that. I will tell you, Buck, this ties in pretty well with what I've seen with the rise of outkick. Everybody loves sports. How about just show sports? You know, like, let's just have sports highlights and debate who the best is or whatever else. Let's not have arguments about politics on espn. Would be an easy fix, I think. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Disney Share this is Fox Business a few days ago or a caller I think is referring to. This is correct. Disney shareholders widely voted against a proposal to reconsider participation in the Corporate Equality Index. So this is an anti DEI proposal that came up and they didn't. Now we can get into some of the details about this, but.
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Clay Travis
Well, a lot of times with those proposals, the reality is the. And this is like diving into.
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Buck Sexton
We're getting into proxy voting now and everything. Yeah, yeah.
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Clay Travis
It's not most individuals voting. It's the large, often left wing. This is where Vivek has gone. Black street, blackrock, all this different black rock.
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Buck Sexton
Sorry. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Allen in South Carolina, you went and saw the new Snow White. What'd you think?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, boy, here we go. So. So my wife and I were screening the film before we showed it to our children. And the best way I can summarize.
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Clay Travis
The way I feel about it is.
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Buck Sexton
You know, it felt like I was.
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Clay Travis
Watching the end of Planet of the Apes over and over and over again.
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Buck Sexton
Just this gut wrenching, awful feeling.
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Clay Travis
So you and how old are you, Alan?
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Buck Sexton
I'm 37.
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Clay Travis
So you and how many kids do you have? Two. Okay. So you and your wife on a date night were like, hey, we're going to go watch Snow White before we take our kids to see it. Which is interesting.
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Buck Sexton
This was a reconnaissance, reconnaissance mission.
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Clay Travis
But the fact that you would feel compelled to go to a Disney movie to see it first, to see whether or not you could take your kids, probably not a great branding side for Disney. Did your wife feel the same way as you? What was her take?
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Buck Sexton
She did.
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Clay Travis
I fortunately married a very conservative woman.
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Buck Sexton
But it's, it is really sad.
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Clay Travis
We almost have to go on and collect intel from the movie prior to, you know, exposing it to our children. Yeah, it's crazy. Thank you. I mean, in 1937, do you think anybody was out there, like, hey, I don't know if we can trust Disney to go watch Snow White. To your point, Buck. Hey, Robin Hood, is this going to be too salacious? Is this going to be too political for me to take my kid? Peter Pan, like Dumbo, whatever you want to point to. Do you think that in the 1950s and 60s and even when we were growing up in the 80s and 90s with beauty and the Beast and Aladdin and all those movies that there were any, you might have been concerned, are they a little bit too scary for young kids? Those kind of things. But nobody was like, hey, I got to worry about what the messaging is.
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Buck Sexton
But you Know, there's, there's also something that's been lost here in, in the creative industries, notably what we see in movies, but also tv. And, and it's that a great story. There's something universal in the humanity of a great story. People just want great stories. They want, they want good guys and bad guys. They want, you know, heroes and princesses, they want triumph, they want trials and tribulation. You know, they want the, you know, right hand, best friend of the hero to come through in the moment. I mean, these things.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Whether you set the story in medieval Europe or you set the story in, you know, Southeast Asia or Central Africa, if it's a great story, it's a great story. And we don't, you know, that's, that's what I find so, so annoying about this. I mean, you see, they have something that should be viewed as. What I'm trying to say is Snow White should be viewed as viewed as something that is a universal cultural phenomenon.
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Clay Travis
That's why everybody can enjoy.
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Buck Sexton
That's what this everyone can enjoy. Mozart is for everybody. That's the great. It doesn't matter where Mozart was from. Ultimately the music is for everybody and for all perpetuity, the human race. And we should all enjoy it. We should all. Don't even get me started about how incredible Mozart is. Point is they, they do this thing now where it's like they're keeping score. Oh, we've had too many, you know, there have been too many musicians or too many authors from this place or that country or of this skin color or that gender. And so we have to do other things now. They don't actually, that doesn't work. And they don't have to do that because we can all appreciate the art for what it is. And that's where I think, I think so much of this falls apart.
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Clay Travis
That's why, that's why for me, Star wars and now the Disney movies are perfect examples of this. You had one of the most successful movies in the history of the world in Snow White. To your point, buck, at least 95% of this audience have seen it, either as kids, yourselves, or as parents or as grandparents. You had a built in audience that loved it and then you're trying to make it for a new generation. Well, wait a minute. It's already been made and everybody loves it. The remake idea in general doesn't make sense. But if you're going to remake something, then remake it basically the exact same story. Because Snow White is transcendent in many ways as a story. And the same thing is true of Star Wars. I understand characters age out, but the idea that Star wars wasn't expansive enough in its audience. It's the most expansive, successful series in the history of the world. World, probably. Is there anything that's made more money than Star wars from a movie perspective? A series? Maybe James Bond, just because they made way more of them. But basically Star wars is the most lucrative movie franchise of all time. That's a sign that it's working really well and that you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Would be my suggestion. Sundays with Clay and Buck the way that Disney has totally lost its connection with large segments of the American population. You and I were looking during the commercial break and I've got it pulled up on my phone on the stocks app. I don't want to sound like Tim Walls here, but if you had bought Disney stock on in July of 2015. So it's basically a decade ago, the stock price was around $120 a share. Today, 10 years later, the stock price is around $100 a share. So you would have lost, not even factoring in inflation, 20% roughly stock valuation at a time when the stock market itself has more than doubled. Now, you may have made some money back on dividends, but I bet a lot of you out there have Disney stock in your 401ks, or if you buy like I do, S&P 500 index funds. Disney is one of the 500 biggest companies in the world. So you're going to have some exposure to this company. We talked about this in the context of the Snow White movie where Woke Disney is collapsing. They're going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. And you and I had a conversation where there's something about the casting that just didn't make sense. And I think if they had just let you and me actually make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars. And if you think that's crazy, as we told you yesterday, the original animated Snow white released in 1937 made $4 billion in modern day dollars. So it basically funded the Disney Corporation and made it the huge success that it was in Walt Disney's era. Now, my wife, last night we're driving back from dinner and we went to a songwriter event which was really fun. 10 Pan south, one of the events that they do here in town where everybody explains how they came to write the songs that they did. Very cool in Nashville. And my wife said, I think you're wrong about who should have been cast as Snow White. She said, Rachel Zegler, clearly the wrong choice. And then we got into my big thing, which is Gal Gadot is actually better looking than Rachel Zegler. You can't have. You agree with me on that?
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Buck Sexton
Well, yeah, but I think she's too old to be Snow White. Isn't Snow White supposed to be?
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Clay Travis
But, but, but the. Sorry, you all back. I'm fired up about this. I really am fired up about this. Taking you back to the 1937 Snow White. The entire premise of Snow White is that Snow White has replaced the evil stepmother as the fairest in all the land. So I don't buy off the face that Gal Gadot is worse looking than Snow White. Right. So the entire premise of the movie doesn't happen if the evil step queen. Stepmother Queen, is. Is actually still better looking than Snow White. But I said. I think I said it on the air. I know I tweeted it that Sydney Sweeney should have been cast as Snow White. My wife says that this is me being clouded by Sydney Sweeney's boobs. She says that Sydney Sweeney is far too buxom to use a word that will probably make Buck Sexton happy. Far too buxom to have actually played Snow White. So it got me thinking. I'm sure that we're going to be deluged right now. Who would have been. I would stick to my Sydney Sweeney choice. I think it would have been excellent. I think the movie would have made a billion dollars. And I think that she would be a fabulous Snow White. My wife says I am beclouded, potentially by Sydney Sweeney's decolletage. I'm trying to use as many different words for boobs as I can here. Buck, who would have been a better choice? And I pushed back against my wife. I said, you remember Lindsay Lohan made a lot of money in those Herbie and the Love Bug movies back in the day, and she was quite the buxom lass. And it was not considered to be too bawdy. So who would have been the appropriate choice for Snow White? Buck, do you have a name? Producer Ali, do you have a name? If they had given the Clay and Buck show carte blanche here to pick the next Snow White, who could have been the pick to make a billion dollars? I think it's Sydney Sweeney. Do you have a better name?
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Buck Sexton
I'm not, as I. First of all, I'm definitely not getting in the crossfire here of whether you.
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Clay Travis
Are too influenced by Sydney Sweeney's boobs. And that's characterizing the choice here.
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Buck Sexton
I do not want to be near the shrapnel from this one. So whatever. However you decide to go with this one, I. And so there's that. The, my thing on the Sydney Sweeney. I'm sorry, on the Rachel Zegler now I'm thinking, yeah, there you go.
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Clay Travis
You're getting clouded too. Can't, I can't get, can't get away.
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Buck Sexton
The Rachel Zegler component of this is, and I don't say this to be mean. I mean I just look, there are some roles in, you know, it's unfortunate. I am not going to make a living as an underwear model. You know what I mean? Like, I wish, I wish things were different, but that's not going to happen. And I accept that in life. Like I don't have a six pack working on it, but I don't have a six pack and that's just not going to happen. I'm an older guy. I think that Snow White should be pretty, like really pretty. And I don't think that this was a good casting choice for that reason. For me it's just she had it.
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Clay Travis
Rachel Zegler is not good looking enough per buck Sexton to be Snow White.
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Buck Sexton
Correct. Yeah. That is just, that's my take on it. So I, I could go with any number of different. Who is the Anna, you know, like, you know, Anna De Armas, I think is, is that, is that her name? Very pretty. Now she's a little, you know, I also don't get into ageism thing here, but she might be a little bit old. Do you know who I'm talking about? No, you don't know Anna De Armas? She played, she just was. Who did she, she just played Marilyn Monroe, I think. Ok. And so you know that to me if you're, you're investing or you could go sort of more the, you know, the younger. I don't know how. Look, it's a cartoon. I mean Snow White, she falls in love with the prince. You know, you got to, let's assume Snow White is, I don't know, 19 or 20. You know, I think that's probably a pretty good. If we're trying to throw it in the, in the range here of what you could have somebody that age play her who was just a really good actress and really pretty and do a really good job. You know, I don't think, I don't think that Rachel Zegler is enough of a draw. Somebody pointed out one of our VIPs that she was in the west side Story, which also. She starred in that bomb as well. Like, how many bombs are you allowed to star in before people start to realize you are not the draw that the executives who make these decisions think they are. You know, just like a lot of things, people are figuring this out about medicine, about. About, you know, legal minds, about a lot. There are a lot of morons who are movie executives. They don't know anything. All they want to do is keep their job because their job ultimately is overpaid and easy to do, but hard to get, which is true of a lot of these sort of senior level corporate jobs. It's tough to get. But once you have it, all you're trying to do is keep it because, you know, you go to meetings, you're like, yeah, we should greenlight this, you know, whatever. And so I think that you have to look at these kinds of decisions that Disney has made and understand these people are. They didn't build Disney. This is a common thing with leftists as well. They didn't. The people that are making the decisions there now, they inherited Disney and they are driving it into the ground. Same way like Gavin Newsom took over the state of California and is just making it worse all the time. He didn't build Hollywood and Silicon Valley. He took it over and ruined it. They're ruining Disney. The execs that are running it the same way.
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Clay Travis
Ali, Producer Ali, come up on the mic if you can. Do you agree with Laura that Sydney Sweeney's boobs are too big to play Snow White? Have I been led astray in my casting decision here? Well, Clay, you're definitely looking in the other direction. I'm susceptible to influence. You think maybe on casting decisions. She does have that really beautiful alabaster skin. Sydney Sweeney does. Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, she does. Dakota Fanning does too.
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Clay Travis
Okay. That was your suggestion. Dakota Fanning and Buck. I'll sign off on this. I don't. I don't. I legit. Didn't. Don't know who this person is. And I'm not claiming, by the way, to be that plugged in on many modern day movies because I'm not out as much.
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Buck Sexton
You're Ana de Armas, by the way.
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Clay Travis
Actually a really good call.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think it's because it's you. This is someone. This is movies. This is fantasy. You want to really look at her face on the screen. Okay. This is. This is the business. And I know we're like getting away from this these days. And it's interesting too, you know, there's the Whole like body positivity thing. Ten years ago, which everybody was. Or, you know, maybe even sooner than more recently than that. And now with all these different drugs people can take, you have these celebrities who are like, I'm body positive. And now they weigh like 100 pounds.
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Clay Travis
You're, like, focused on the apples.
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Buck Sexton
What. What happened to yeah, Allie jumping in.
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Clay Travis
And saying that I'm focused on the apples. It is true. The. But yeah, you're right. The body parts. As soon as Ozempic started, body positivity didn't exist anymore. Everybody wanted to get skinny. Everybody like, hey, I'm super fat, but I'm really positive about the way I look. No, people are taking Ozempic like crazy if they can afford it. And the body positivity thing, which, by the way, isn't very healthy. Right. Like this whole idea of putting people who are morbidly obese on fitness magazine being like, oh, this person is like super body positive. I think maybe you should be a little bit less body positive and try and get healthier. Just an idea. Yes. It's actually not healthy.
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Buck Sexton
I would say. I practice what I preach with this one. It is not. You don't want to sit down with your doctor and have them say, hey, you're trending toward prediabetes. You don't want to have that conversation. You don't want to find out that some of your blood and your health markers are going south on you because you're going to pay the price no matter what some celebrity says. So, you know, not everybody has to. Like I said, you don't have to be a bikini or an underwear model. A guy, girl, doesn't matter. Well, I mean, guys generally don't wear bikinis, but you know what I mean? It's not about being perfect. It's not about keeping yourself at some unrealistic level of expectation. It's just about being healthy and getting the most out of your day to day and out of your life. And people that tell you that it doesn't matter anything that you, you know, however someone looks is totally fine. They're lying to them and they're not being honest with them, with themselves about what the long term issues are. But back to like, who's hot enough to play Snow White? I can't believe we're even having this conversation. Look, I. For me, Clay, it's. It's even beyond the funniest thing is still the dwarves, that they got rid of the dwarves.
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Clay Travis
And I think they should be really mad at Peter Dinklage. The Guy who got to play Tyrion Lannister, he's gotten every good dwarf role for the entire, like, last generation. And then he tells the dwarf people.
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Buck Sexton
Who are actors, the tiny ladder up behind him. You know what I mean? That's not nice.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, totally. Just totally. Like destroyed these seven dwarf actors who aren't gonna ever have the opportunity. Maybe you go out and, I don't know, you kill it as dopey or Doc, and next thing you know, you're. You're the next Tyrion Lannister character. I. The fact that they made. To avoid offending people, they didn't let actual Dwarves play the dwarves and instead they made communication computer animated versions of them. Which is just, to me, kind of the peak of the woke absurdity. Right?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, well, this is. This is a bit like how in order, like they. In order to truly support women, the left feminist movement in its final stages here has decided that men can be women the same way any women can, and in doing so completely undermine women, women's rights, women's sports, etc. Right. It goes to the ultimate conclusion of the destruction of the thing that it supposedly supports and cares about.
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Clay Travis
The most ridiculous woke Disney move ever. And I still think this is hysterical, by the way. You can talk back if you think we're crazy on this. Do you remember when they decided that the African animals had to have black voices or else it would be cultural appropriation? When they remade the Lion King, this is one of the most crazy parts of this. They said that if it's not a black voice, the animal, it is cultural appropriation. For instance, for a lion, which is from Africa, to not be voiced by a black person in America.
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Buck Sexton
I.
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Clay Travis
It is. That was like, next. I don't even know how you get your head around how crazy that is. They were concerned that a lion having a white voice would be cultural appropriation. So they had black American actors.
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Buck Sexton
The original Lion King, there was criticism because the. One of the hyenas was. Was voiced by Whoopi Goldberg. And Scar, they say, is, you know, Scar the lion is gay. And so there was this whole. Oh, there's these subliminal messages of who the. Like who the bad guys or bad people are. And it's like, these are cartoons. It's a cartoon.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Lion guys, cartoon, hyena. Like, there's not really. But people get very excited about this stuff.
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Clay Travis
Reaction pouring in. Brian's got a funny one here, Buck. I believe the obvious choice for Snow White would be Dylan Mulvaney. That would. I mean, if they had cast a dude as Snow White, that would have been peak Disney. That would have been a very funny.
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Buck Sexton
I would insane. I'm going to tell you this as much as that would be insane and like the destruction of western civilization happening in real time, I would almost respect Disney's chutzpah with that one. I'd say, wow, wow. They're going to do. They're going all in. Like they would have known that that would be. That would be just. Just clacking off the explosives to bring down the Magic Kingdom all at once. I mean that would just be. Wow.
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Clay Travis
It would be really, really funny yet. But yes, I mean, why not go ahead and be as expansive as possible for to be able to set that up. It would be really, really funny to see that happen. And by the way, producer Ali deluged in reaction.
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Buck Sexton
And Buck Andrew in Winston Salem, North Carolina. You're up first. Well, hey, thanks guys. First time I've been able to get into y'all. Been tried tried many times. But this is the number one news station or news radio in the country right here.
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Clay Travis
Amen. Thank you for listening.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, absolutely. So my casting choice would be Sabrina Carpenter. Bristol White. I think she has caught the apple of the American eyes and many different demographics. Think she handles herself really well and is not afraid to make fun of herself. I think she would promote Snow White much better than Ms. Zegler and there's a lot of people in the music industry icons that want to work with her and have like Paul Simon and I'm sure Dolly Parton wants to work with her in the future. I know who. Thank you so much for the call. Clay. Do you know who Sabrina Carpenter is? I've never heard of her, nor have I ever seen her before.
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Clay Travis
She is insanely famous musician so that is really funny that you have never heard of her. It's like the Morgan Wallen situation on.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, did I just do one of those? Is she a country music person?
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Clay Travis
I'm not an first of all, I am tone deaf, so I am not a great judge of incredible singing talent or anything else. But she is one of the most famous young singers out there right now. So I think that she would likely potentially do very well. She's pretty, she's got that sort of alabaster skin. The peanut butter skin line.
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Buck Sexton
We're gonna say that. I knew you were gonna talk about that quote from.
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Clay Travis
I don't know, I don't know if I ever talk about the color skin of somebody in a positive way. So the alabaster skin line is just, you know, she's, she's white. I mean, Snow White is white. As, as, as a big part of her appeal. And it's like not a super tan skin but, but it is very funny in and of itself and, and there are a lot of people. She is a, called a pop princess. She was the, she's a Grammy nominee. She's very, very popular at, at this point in time. So I, I, I don't heard of this person element here. You've never heard of Sabrina Carpenter?
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Buck Sexton
Never heard of her before. So I clearly, I don't know, I just don't, I'm not that connected to the, the pop culture these days. April, in Salt Lake City where we are number one. And we love you, Salt Lake, for listening to us. Thank you so much. What's going on, April? Hi, my favorite men. Hello. Hi.
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Clay Travis
Hey.
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Buck Sexton
I was just thinking that Julia Butters would be a really good choice. She's got that perfect complexion. She's fairest of them all, but she could be very tan as well. She, she's known for like Gabby and Criminal Minds. She does the role of Ella in a prime video series Transference. She's been known for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. She's really, really cute. Good looking actress. I sent you a picture of her on Facebook messenger. Okay.
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Clay Travis
I have. Thank you.
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Buck Sexton
Have great taste in radio. And we know that since you say we're your favorite men, you've got great taste in men. So I'm assuming Julia Butters is an excellent choice. Clay, once again, I don't even know. I've never heard of this person before, have you?
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Clay Travis
I had to look her up. I didn't know who she was. But she does have a Snow White look about her. I tend to think this would be, you know, kind of an opportunity where somebody just calls, somebody calls in there like the agent for, for the individual.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think unfortunately the moment has passed because they're not going to make another Snow White. Movie for a very, maybe for the.
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Clay Travis
Rest of the life of anybody out there that is here. By the way, I put up a poll and I'm probably going to get, get dunked on by my wife for this, but I have a poll up right now. Is my wife right? Am I distracted by Sydney Sweeney's boobs and not making rational choices? Or would Sydney Sweeney in the role of Snow White have made the movie a billion dollars? You can all go vote in this right now. 80%, 87% of you say Sydney Sweeney would have made this a billion dollar franchise. So maybe many of you are also in the audience out there, thousands of you voting at Clay Travis on Twitter. Maybe you are also similarly bedazzled by her, by her decolletage. But most of you are agreeing with me right now, which Laura Travis will still, we'll still argue the other way, but that is, that is out there on the, on the big poll day as well.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think that maybe, maybe this is getting too deep into the philosophy of this, but I think that the, the left, including the, you know, the left, it used to be predominantly when they were in charge of Hollywood and they still are, but things are changing or Hollywood's not what it used to be. Yeah, they had left wing politics, but they would have, the people they would put forward who were supposed to be good looking were very good looking. I think that the left opposes excellence and beauty as a general thing, excellence as a general concept. And I think that they are increasingly, they find beauty to be exclusionary or, you know, it's an exclusive category and therefore it's not inclusive and therefore it can't be a good thing. Which is why we have, you know, these campaigns of like very basically very unattractive and weird looking people to sell clothing, for example, which has started in recent years. Like this all comes from. There's something psychologically that pushes this, by the way. This is all failed. They tried to say, oh no, this is going to expand our. That's a lie. It actually fails dramatically because people, when you're talking about things where you're buying into it for the brand, for the story, there should be, there's an aspirational quality to this, right. Like when I buy an Under Armour shirt, I'm not going to look like Bo Jackson in his prime in my Under Armour shirt. You know, I mean, I wish.
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Clay Travis
Good, good recall there. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you. Yeah, but I'm not going to look like him. But I still, you know, you aspire to that brand and you see this and there's sort of a signaling in your brain of like, well, I want to be a part of that in some way. Same thing is true with like leading ladies in Hollywood. You're, you know, you're. We're allowed to be like, oh, this is a very beautiful and alluring person who is on the silver screen and you know, it doesn't have to be all pulled down into the sort of the hoi polloi in the day to day of everything.
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Clay Travis
No. The best example of this buck is Victoria's Secret. Victoria's Secret for a generation. Sold. Hey, we want, we, we have these beautiful women wearing lingerie and everybody understands that they're not going to look probably as beautiful as the average Victoria's Secret supermodel, but is an aspirational desire. And they decided for body positivity reasons we're going to start having basically normal women modeling the lingerie. And you know what happened? Sales collapsed because people are looking, they're like, I don't, I want to aspire to be something that I am not. Right. Like the entire aspect of whether you like it or not, of, of selling gear, to your point, like men wear shoes because they hope they're going to jump as high as Michael Jordan. Is that ridiculous? Yes. But the aspiration is that you can be something like someone who is not normal. You can aspire to also be a better version of yourself.
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Buck Sexton
And so they, this, the way that this, I think is manifested in the psychology and the philosophy of the left, the Democrat party, is that they are inherently uncomfortable with and want to suppress excellence, as I said, because it is exclusive. Right. So to be excellent at anything means you have to be elite or better than others in the category, right?
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
To be an excellent classical musician, flute, to be an excellent, you know, to be a, a beauty queen, to be.
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Clay Travis
I mean, it's the entire foundation of sports. Right. This is why the men and women's sports is so important. Right.
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Buck Sexton
Perfect example of this. So there, you know, you can either elevate what is excellent and give people something aspirational as a society, or you can pull everybody down by destroying merit and excellence in whatever ways that you can, because then they're easier to control because they're demoralized and society is now just one, just one sort of formless mass of people who want to be safe and warm and fed and never aspire to anything. And this is, this is how the psychology of the left manifests itself more and more in art, which I think instead of elevating people, brings people Down. Which is a very fancy way of saying this is why they turned against hot chicks. You see what I did there? I stuck the landing.
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Clay Travis
It's also, I think we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I do think that you said Rachel Zegler not good enough looking to be Snow White. I think that's not a bad argument. I mean this is an incredibly beautiful.
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Buck Sexton
I like how your tiptoeing the Clay's like I'm not sure I'm going to take the heat on that one with you, buddy. I think you're on your own on that one.
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Clay Travis
By the way. I would 1 billion percent welcome. Daily Mail Mediate headline. Clay Travis, fat ugly radio guy says that Rachel Zegler is not good looking enough to be Snow White. I will second your take. That was your first take. I will sign on to it. I will co sign it. But the part that I think is ridiculous is they decided to go with a Latina Snow White which I think we have to end this race based craziness. Right. We talked about this a little bit yesterday but I do hope because Hollywood is such a copycat copy copycat place that this idea of having historic figures that are defined in some way by their physical appearance and claiming that it doesn't matter. To your point, the black female Viking warrior. Yeah, that didn't happen. Right. Like Bridgerton. Hey, this is set in a 17th or 18th century palace in London. I'm sorry, like everybody there was white by and large. Unless there's some visiting, you know, foreign country emissary there. So you telling me, hey, we're trying to deconstruct history by just having people play roles that they could have never played. It takes me completely out of the story. Much like. And I'm going to get more heat for this musicals. Like I don't want people to start singing. I like plays. I was looking. I'm going to be up in New York recently, Buck. I'm going to go see Othello with Denzel Washington and Jake Gyllenhaal playing, which I think will be an amazing Broadway play. They're doing previews for it right now. I like historic Shakespeare. I like plays. I might even go see the. I'm going to get heat for this when I'm up there. I might even go see this new George Clooney Broadway play which is about the Edward R. Murrow, I think, or somebody back in the 50s who was a newscaster. And I know George Clooney is a super left wing guy, but he's pretty talented Actor, I think, and I know Denzel Washington is one of the greatest actors of his generation. I would like to see him on a stage.
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Buck Sexton
See, I like, I like, I like arguing when I can. I don't think George Clooney is a very good actor. I think he, I think he's plays the same thing and everything he's in. I think he's very one note. So I'm just, I'm going to throw a flag on this one.
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Clay Travis
Is he handsome?
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Buck Sexton
All right, he's. He's handsome. Sure. Is he. Is he a good actor, though? I've never seen George Clooney in anything where I've gone. Oh, yeah, he really, like, leaned into that one. It's always the same thing. He's like, look at me, I'm so handsome. Look at my square jaw. I don't know. I'm not into it.
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Clay Travis
I don't have a problem.
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Buck Sexton
He's not, he's not a full melodian either. He's not full melusion. Let's be honest.
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Clay Travis
Mallusion is better looking than Clooney. I agree with you there. I think. Can we go to the archives? I think Trump came on the show and ripped George Clooney with the exact same take that you have last year. I think.
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Buck Sexton
I agree on everything, Clay.
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Clay Travis
I agree on everything. I think Trump came on and said, he's a TV guy. He's not really a movie star. He didn't have that good of a career. I think. I think Trump came on the show and said that about George Clooney. See if we could track that down in the archives. I'm going to go watch the play and I'm going to go watch. You agree with me on Denzel? Yeah, like one of the greatest actors.
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Buck Sexton
One of the 10 best actors of his generation. Yes. Denzel's phenomenal. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And so I'm going to go watch that, I think, in a couple of weeks when I'm up in New York City. And, and my point on that is excellence. I want to see excellence. And I don't. I would not go see again.
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Buck Sexton
Do you see my point, though, about when you look at, when you look at authoritarian and totalitarian societies, they. People are all demoralized and all they're allowed to aspire to is the will of the state there. This is why, you know, art is crushed, religion is crushed. You can't, you can't aspire to have a.
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Clay Travis
Buildings are not beautiful. Right. You have those like.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Looking buildings.
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. There, there is a. This is a, A, an Effective beauty across the.
- [56:56]
Clay Travis
Across the entire platform of the. Of the authoritarian.
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Buck Sexton
Because then people just. Oh, they just want whatever the most basic things are, and they don't want to be attacked and they don't. They don't want to be different. And because there is nothing to aspire to, because there is nothing that you want to become or that you want to try to emulate in some way in your own life, you just. Whatever the state, whatever sort of gruel the state dishes out on your plate, that is your life. And this is what you see in, like, former Soviet bloc architecture. And, you know, people would talk about some of the. The Soviets, you know, they made things a little more complicated because they took, you know, brilliant artists like Tchaikovsky, for example, and they had the Bolshoi, the ballet, the state funded ballet. But that was all done before this, you know, that was all done before Stalin came along, right?
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Clay Travis
These.
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Buck Sexton
They didn't produce any good artwork except for dissident writers, which tells you something in the 20th century. So the attack on beauty and the destruction of it as a concept in. And whether it's physicality, architecture, music, all these things, it is actually part of a collectivist and authoritarian playbook. I mean, it always is, right? Let me tell you, not a lot of interesting new artwork being created in China these days. Everything that you think of as Chinese culture that's, you know, interesting and worthwhile, that's before Mao. Since Mao, nothing new. They just copy our stuff and our technology and. But, I mean, there's nothing new, and there's a reason for that. All right, I got a little fired up about this one, but we need. We needed to take. We need to take this out of the Clay Sydney Sweeney zone for a second here. You're a funny. You are.
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Clay Travis
She would have made a built. She would have made a billion dollars. I'm just trying to help Disney out, trying to help the company out, and they won't listen to me.
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