Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Oct 5 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Sunday Hang, Oct 5, 2025

Overview

In this episode of "The Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck," hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton blend humor and political insight as they discuss current events, masculinity, fitness, and cultural trends. Using viral moments like RFK Jr. and Pete Hegseth's workout challenge, and a failed bench press by a progressive politician, they explore deeper themes of masculinity, political identity, and why physical strength has become a flashpoint in American discourse.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The RFK Jr. Workout Challenge (00:51–05:15)

• Discussion of viral fitness challenge: Clay and Buck react to a video where Pete Hegseth and RFK Jr. participate in a physical challenge of 50 pull-ups and 100 push-ups in five minutes.

  • They joke about RFK Jr.'s peculiar choice of attire—jeans, belt, and Timberland boots—for working out.
  • Clay is shocked by public reactions downplaying the difficulty of the challenge.

  Clay Travis (02:42):
  "The challenge was 50 pull ups and 100 pushups in five minutes. ... I think one in 10,000 men can complete that challenge right now. Now maybe you're the 1 in 10,000."

• Physical capability and age: The conversation pivots to realism about fitness for middle-aged men.

  • Clay and Buck agree most people vastly underestimate the challenge, especially for non-athletes and older men.
  • They reference CDC stats: average U.S. male weight is about 200 lbs in midlife, complicating strength-to-weight ratio tasks like pull-ups.

  Buck Sexton (05:15):
  "According to the CDC, the average American man in his middle age is about 200 pounds ... but Clay, to be fair, the average height is 5'9". So if you're 6ft tall, I'd say the average weight is more like 215, 220."

• Fitness challenge to listeners: Clay encourages listeners to test themselves (safely) against the viral workout.

  • Clay offers his own daily workout: 100 squats, 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups in about 12 minutes.

  Clay Travis (07:24):
  "That's a good goal. You want to be able to have at least one plate. ... I do 100 squats, 100 push ups, and 100 sit ups in right around 12 minutes. ... It's a great workout. It's all natural."

2. Arm Wrestling and Masculinity in Politics (08:10–10:50)

• Cabinet weigh-in: Clay and Buck banter about which cabinet officials they could hypothetically beat in arm wrestling matches, drawing comparisons between physical and political strength.

  • Clay speculates on his chances against Pete Hegseth, Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, and Vince McMahon, referencing their age and fitness.

  Clay Travis (09:14):
  "I think Pete is like in really good shape. I think I could beat most Trump cabinet officials ... I got an advantage age wise. RFK Jr I might demand a drug test."

  Buck Sexton (09:42):
  "CDC should study whatever RFK's drug test comes out as. That would be interesting."

3. Zoran Mamdani's Bench Press Fail: Symbol of Political Disconnect (11:50–13:31)

• Public fitness mishap: The hosts discuss a viral incident where NY Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani failed to bench 135 lbs at a public event.

  • Clay uses the example to comment on perceptions of masculinity and the disconnect between progressive politicians and average men, especially young men.

  Clay Travis (12:09):
  "I do think this is emblematic of why young men are just completely rejecting the Democrat Party ... this inability to just connect with normal men is emblematic of Zoran Mamdani's inability to bench."

• Personal anecdote: Clay shares a story of his 14-year-old son achieving a 155 lb bench press and how among teenagers, to be called "a Democrat" is seen as an insult.

4. Masculinity, Modern Politics, and "Toxic Masculinity" (13:31–17:17)

• Democrats and masculinity: Buck reflects on past debates about "toxic masculinity" and the Democrat Party's struggle to address or promote masculine virtues.

  • He recalls an appearance on Bill Maher's show where masculine virtues were laughed off.

  Buck Sexton (14:47): "If you look at masculine virtues, you're not allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a Democrat ... you can't say things like courage and bravery ... because they'll say, what do you mean? Well, women have that, too."

• Political branding attempts: They discuss Gavin Newsom sharing his high school photo to boost his masculine image, but Buck finds these attempts hollow.

  Buck Sexton (16:49): "Every time they try to go down the masculinity pathway, it rings hollow because Democrats will tear down what they're saying."

5. The Symbolism of Strength and Physical Weakness (17:17–20:11)

• Bench press as a rite of passage: Clay and Buck compare gym milestones (one-plate and two-plate bench press) to masculine development.

  • For them, inability to perform basic physical tasks symbolizes both mental and physical weakness.

  Clay Travis (18:54): "The criticism of men, to me that I would give, is that men are not masculine enough and that the failure of masculinity is that men are not strong enough, both mentally and physically, to take on the responsibilities that we as men should."

• Weakness and political ideology: Buck ties "victim ideology" and the aversion to physical competition to the modern Democratic ethos.

  Buck Sexton (19:53): "Victim ideology. That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy ... This is very central to the modern Democrat Party ethos."

6. The Testosterone Theory of Voting (20:55–22:18)

• Testosterone and politics: Buck suggests a tongue-in-cheek correlation between testosterone levels and likelihood of voting Republican.

  • Clay follows with a provocative hypothetical: only people able to bench their body weight should be allowed to vote, which he claims would lead to a Republican landslide.

  Clay Travis (21:57):
  "If you only allowed people who could bench their body weight to vote, Republicans would win 95–5. I don't think it would be close."

• Threat perception and power dynamics: Buck theorizes that real-world strength and the willingness to measure oneself against others is inherently right-wing, while leftists reject or ignore such dynamics.

  Buck Sexton (22:18):
  "It forces you to at least think in the real world, better version of can someone kick your ass or not ... It's a very right wing thought. Left wing is not to embrace, not to even engage, I think, in this kind of thinking."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the workout challenge:
  • Clay Travis (02:42): "I think one in 10,000 men can complete that challenge right now."
  • Buck Sexton (05:15): "According to the CDC, the average American man in his middle age is about 200 pounds."
• On masculinity in politics:
  • Buck Sexton (14:47): "You're not allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a Democrat."
  • Clay Travis (18:54): "The failure of masculinity is that men are not strong enough, both mentally and physically."
• Tongue-in-cheek political predictions:
  • Clay Travis (21:57): "If you only allowed people who could bench their body weight to vote, Republicans would win 95–5."
  • Buck Sexton (22:18): "It's a very right wing thought ... the world does revolve at some level around these power dynamics."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• RFK Jr.'s workout attire + Challenge Discussion: 00:51–05:15
• Bench Press Challenge for Listeners: 05:47–08:10
• Arm Wrestling and Cabinet Fitness: 08:10–10:50
• Zoran Mamdani's Bench Press Story: 11:50–13:31
• Masculinity and Democratic Politics: 13:31–17:17
• Symbolism of Strength/Physical Weakness: 17:17–20:11
• Testosterone and Voting Patterns: 20:55–22:18

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Conclusion

This episode offers an entertaining blend of fitness banter, political culture critique, and tongue-in-cheek theorizing about modern masculinity and American politics. Through stories about viral workout challenges, gym milestones, and public figures, Clay and Buck make the case that strength—both physical and psychological—is a core conservative value, and that Democrats are losing touch with this aspect of the American male psyche. While humorous and at times provocative, the discussion reflects deeper anxieties about changing gender roles, generational divides, and the role of competition and personal responsibility in politics.

Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Our friend Pete Hexap, Secretary of Defense.

[Clay Travis]

Out there in a video.

[Buck Sexton]

Ladies. Sadly, he has a shirt on during it. But. But does I think RFK Jr does not have his shirt on during it. Right? Is that. Am I correct in that or.

[Clay Travis]

No, no, no, he's got his shirt. At least that I got a shirt in. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay. All right. Because. Because he does like to work out without a shirt on. We're aware of that. Yes, but that's what. That's a choice. Whatever. I. We all get. Why does RFK Jr work out in jeans?

[Clay Travis]

It's diabolical.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm. I'm not. I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert. Clearly not. Okay, we've all. We are. I'm not. But jeans are not a comfortable thing.

[Clay Travis]

To work out in.

[Buck Sexton]

And a belt is. And a belt. Jeans with a belt on, like Incredible Hulk style. Except the jeans aren't all like broken.

[Clay Travis]

From where I get it. If you're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me just rep out 20 push ups to show what good shape I'm in. It's not scheduled, but they had a scheduled workout and RFK rolled in in jeans and a belt to do a push up and. And pull up challenge. And I just. It. I think it's diabolical. I don't know what the thought process is. Maybe the late, the least comfortable outfit to work. Jeans, like starchy, uncomfortable, wrangler, Levi's, whatever it is. Jeans and a belt. Like, I don't even like wearing belts for normal life. It's weird.

[Buck Sexton]

So why is he doing it? I'm just throwing this out there.

[Clay Travis]

Sunday hang with Clay and Buck, but I'm watching this video of RFK Jr. In his big Timberland boots and his. And his jeans and his belt. And he's throwing a ski parka.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, why not just. Why not just go all in?

[Clay Travis]

It's wild, the number of you that are arguing with me. So I shared this video and it's Pete HEGSETH, Defense Secretary RFK Jr. They're trying to get people to work out more. And the challenge was 50 pull ups and 100 pushups in five minutes. And I said that is insanely difficult. And a ton of you are in the mentions. Like, that's not that hard unless you are a freak athlete. A hundred real push ups and 50 real pull ups in five minutes. I think one in 10,000 men can complete that challenge right now. Now maybe you're the 1 in 10,000.

[Buck Sexton]

I was with you until the 1 in 10, I think. I don't think it's 1 in 10,000. I don't think.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think it's.

[Buck Sexton]

What age range are we talking to? Because, I mean, you know, some of you are very harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Clay and our middle aged men. Clay's going to be 50 soon, for heaven's sakes. Like, we're not 25 anymore. Guys, you know, back off.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not talking about people that are in professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The average guy probably weighs 2 20. What do you think the average weight in America is right now? 2:20.

[Buck Sexton]

In your 40s. You have to adjust for age, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

The average American male I Bet weighs about 220 to 2:30 at in their 40s. That would be my.

[Clay Travis]

Most guys can rocket.

[Buck Sexton]

Rocket.

[Clay Travis]

Most guys cannot bench press their body weight. We had this discussion like not even close to being able to bench press their body.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this is where the, the pull ups becomes much tougher because that's a strength to. This is where people like your wife and my wife who are strong for their size makes a difference. Right? When I was 40 pounds heavier, I could bench a lot more than I could bench right now, actually. And that was only a year ago. But pull ups definitely better at pull ups now than I was 40 pounds heavier. So this is what you got to take into account.

[Clay Travis]

Some of these incredible trained soldiers right now can do it. I think hardly anyone can do that. I don't, I don't know how many people listening to us right now could do it. That is really hard. I mean, you're a middle aged guy.

[Buck Sexton]

Post, post your photo, post your videos doing this challenge and I will put some good ones up on the website. Right? With a core Dow, by the way, this is cuz women, you know, push ups and, and pull ups, you know, they can get in on this too.

[Clay Travis]

Sundays with Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

According to the cdc, the average American man in his middle age is about 200 pounds. But clay, to be fair, the average height is 59. So I, the height was a little less than I remember, you know, than I had thought. So if you're 6ft tall, I'd say the average probably weight is more like 2:15, 2:20. But the average weight overall is 200 pound. Man. Clay thinks that it is very impressive. He thinks it is a 1 in 10,000 shot for a guy in middle age to be able to do what it's a hundred pushups and fifty, fifty.

[Clay Travis]

Pull ups in five minutes. And I mean if you doubt me on this, just go. You made a good challenge. But I mean I think these things are fun. Like it's good to test yourself, it's good to challenge yourself. You and I like to try to do these things, but I don't like, I feel comfortable. I can do a hundred pushups in five minutes, no issue, right? I think I could do 50 pull ups in five minutes, no issue. But to do both in five minutes, you have to be in crazy good shape. Crazy good. And look, I mean the reality is you have to break it up in some way. So there's a transition time that is taking up some of your time as well. I think probably the way to do it is, would be to do sets of 10 or 20 pushups and then try to do five or 10 pull ups at a time. So you minimize the number of amount of time you're transitioning between the two different workouts. Because most people are not going to be able to do a hundred straight push ups or 50 straight pull ups. So I think hardly anybody can do it. And a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is. And so pull out your phone at some point today, just don't injure yourselves. But at some point today just pull out your phone and time yourself trying to do pushups. Most people can't even do 10 pushups, right? Like the average man sadly cannot just do 10 pushups. So the idea that you're going to do a hundred and you're not going to be getting worse. Here's a good workout. I do this workout most days now. I do 100 squats, I do 100 push ups and, and I do 100 sit ups in right around 12 minutes. It's easy. It is. I do sets of 10 and I mean that's a challenge time wise but it doesn't take up very much time. It's great workout. It's all natural. You don't have to have any fancy attributes or bench press machines or anything else. Just your body. 100, 100, 100 in about 12 minutes is a really good challenge. Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I like that they're, that they're putting challenges out there. But the number of people who are just like this is not hard. I just, I mean unless you are professionally in good shape, it is really hard to do. So the challenges out there. Gauntlet throne. I bet hardly anybody in the clay and buck audience can do it right now.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, we'll oh hardly get him. No, we, we got a lot of meat eaters in this audience man. We got, we got plenty.

[Clay Travis]

Even, even 50 pull ups. Real pull ups. There's some, there's some former.

[Buck Sexton]

There's some retired green berets and seals and rangers and you know, state troopers and firemen and they're like clay. Travis, it is game.

[Clay Travis]

Seth is in really good shape. I think that's fair to say for a 45 year old guy. Hegseth is in the top 10% best shape. I don't think anybody could argue that he couldn't do it.

[Buck Sexton]

Really.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And RFK Jr couldn't do it now. RFK Jr is like 70 some odd years old. May. May have a little bit of a, of a. I got something to throw.

[Buck Sexton]

In the mix here. We're going to get back to serious stuff in a second. Policy fixing DC crime. I promise. Cause we may be rolling with the Secretary of Defense at some point. We've talked to him and his team about this. To be joined the press pool. So officially along in some capacity on the road somewhere. Do you think you could be Pete in an arm wrestling match?

[Clay Travis]

I don't think so. I mean he's got pretty big guns.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. You know, you know, slouch there Travis.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not. I just. I think Pete, Pete is like in really good shape. I think I could beat most Trump cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I think Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump. I got an advantage age wise. RFK Jr I might demand a drug test. Cause I think that guy is. He's got a little bit of ped uses. He's got a guy Barry Bonds going in his favor there.

[Buck Sexton]

CDC should study whatever RFK's drug test comes out as. That would be interesting. Or not cdc, you know the NIH or whatever or not nih hhs whatever he runs. Sorry I keep forgetting what he runs but yes I think that man I'm a little surprised. I thought you were going to say I was looking forward to this because I was obviously going to be on the pen, you know the DOD plane videoing clay and the secretary of Defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion. But another time I'll find another one. We're gonna get you we're gonna get you in some kind of a physical.

[Clay Travis]

Challenge here with some bessants got no chance Lutnick those guys would I would.

[Buck Sexton]

Rather throws a mean punch people said.

[Clay Travis]

Some people have said I got 20 years on Bessant I think I would I think I would wreck bessant Tulsi Tulsi actually strong I think as being a man I should be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi kind of running through the Cabinet members Linda McMahon she has no hope. Her husband Vince, another steroid guy would have some would have a good chance against me. I think even though he's almost 80.

[Buck Sexton]

I still think we're going to get you and p. We're going to have to do something.

[Clay Travis]

We'll have to do like a pull.

[Buck Sexton]

Up challenge or something.

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[Clay Travis]

Sunday drop with Clay and Buck Mamdani over the weekend decided to hop on a bench press at a public event and he was unable to do. I went back and looked at the pictures. It is 45 pound plates on each side and a bar traditionally 135 pounds. He couldn't do it one time. And I understand some of you may never have been in a gym, you may never have laid down on a bench press. You may never have done it at all. I do think this is emblematic of why young men are just completely rejecting the Democrat Party. I'll give you a story on this buck. Yesterday my 14 year old, he's a 9th grader, came home and he had been with a friend over the weekend and he said, dad, I just got 155 one time on my bench press. And he was so excited about it. And you know, I gave him a high five as, as dads do. He's playing football, he wants to lift, he wants to get stronger. All of his friends see saying someone is a Democrat as an insult. These are kids from all different backgrounds. And I do think that this inability to just connect with normal men is emblematic of Zoran Mandami's inability to bench. Am I making too much of this or do you think it's a symbol of Democrat weakness and also just an inability to understand average male voters? That is incredible weakness.

[Buck Sexton]

No, it took some time for it really to sink in. What the Democrat ideology and the talking points. The orthodoxy was around things like toxic masculinity. And you remember I had this discussion on, on the Bill Maher show right before the election where I said Trump is going to win. And this is why. And this is one of the reasons why, sure enough, that was all correct. Even though, and I would say the audience actually didn't boo, really remember, I went back and watched this again, the audience is willing to hear it out because I think that they realized some of them knew at least the train that was coming down the tracks and the Trump train was already going toot, toot. I mean, it was on the way at that point. It was October, it was right before the election. But Clay, that we talked about toxic masculinity and masculinity in general. First of all, I remember one of the other panelists there maybe still has a job at cnn. I don't know. I'm being quite honest with you. I don't think so. I don't know, maybe as a contributor there and she said, why are we talking about men? We should be talking about women and minorities. Basically. It's like, well, the topic is masculinity.

[Clay Travis]

So if that topic we can talk about men. Completely expected, right, that she would immediately say, I don't know why we're talking. Yeah, why are you talking about this? Well, it's the topic and Then when.

[Buck Sexton]

I tried to get into it, I said, if you look at masculine virtues, you're not allowed to talk about masculine virtues. As a Democrat, Democrats are not allowed to say. You can't say things like courage and bravery. Because they'll say, what do you mean? Well, women have that, too. It's like, okay, yeah, but we're trying to, you know, we're trying to look at what is true generally, genetically, about men and women in the aggregate. And fundamentally, men and women are different. And this is what the Democrat Party decided. They were going to just. They were going to destroy this difference. They were going to destroy it with the trans issue, but also, more generally, they were going to destroy it. Women should conduct themselves like men, should pursue the same ends as men, should have the same life aspirations as men. And, you know, this is where you can get into the. It's fine if a woman doesn't want to have a family. Of course it's fine if a woman wants to choose a career first, of course. And they should have that, that full right to do. But as a society, generally speaking, some things tend to be true about men and women, about the careers they choose, about the hours they put in, about the. And it's okay to promote that. It's okay to say, hey, this is actually a good thing for men to do, or this is a good thing for women to do in general. And Democrats ran. It ran against all of that. And you find. You find yourself thinking, you know, they also just. They got rid of a lot of the words that you would use to describe wimpy men or wimpy. You know, I don't even really know how you're supposed to talk about this anymore. But this is. This is where they found themselves as. As a party. And they won't walk back from this. They're starting to try. I said, Gavin Newsom is putting out. Like he put out. Okay, here's a perfect example. Gavin Newsom put out or his team put out. Same thing. A photo, right? You saw this clay of him in high school, like a. He's got, like, a long scarf on. He's got, like, you know, slick hair, and he's like, hey. And, you know. And J.D. vance looking a little bit like a doofus. But, you know, it's high school. A lot of us look like doofuses in high school. And the whole thing, I guess, is like, I'm like, handsome, cool Gavin Newsom. Unlike this guy who was like a dork in high school. And it's like, well, he's a vice President of the United States. You know, he's been incredibly successful. He actually looks great now. I think he would kick Gavin Newsom's ass in a fight. Not that that matters, but if we're talking about this stuff and every time they try to do this clay, it rings hollow. Every time they try to go down the masculinity pathway, it rings hollow because Democrats will tear down what they're saying.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. And Gavin Newsom is almost 60. I was cool in high school is not something that I think appeals very much to people when they look at a 60 year old. I think that men are not above criticism. And this is why I look at the G, at the Zoran mom dummy attempted bench press. And for those of you who don't know, 135 pounds is a goal that a 14 or 15 year old boy who is trying to play football would aspire to. Right. I think for people out there who don't know one plate on each side, a 45, which is the typical top weight, is a goal that young, young boys, I would say may. Maybe some of you out there haven't been able to do it yet. I'd say that's, that's a good goal. You want to be able to have at least one plate. And then for you and me, I bet it was when I'm, you know, 20 years old or 19 or whatever I was, I want to get two plates, right. I want to be able to do 2 25, which is a lot of weight to bench press. But if you ever go into a gym, that is the goal. That's how most men, and some women, but most men would progress. They'd say, I want to get one plate on each side. And then eventually I'm clay and I.

[Buck Sexton]

Can both bench press 2:25. And so for any of you who are doubters or haters out there, that video will be. Could be forthcoming very quickly. We could both bench 2 25. Okay, so you before, before all the snark comes flying our way.

[Clay Travis]

I, by the way, to be fair, don't know how many reps on 2:25 I would get, but I can definitely notice.

[Buck Sexton]

I said we can bench it. You can bench it. I can bench it. We can both do 225 as we're having this Mamdani conversation.

[Clay Travis]

So when I look at it, I just think to myself, the criticism of men, to me that I would give is that men are not masculine enough and that the failure of masculinity is that men are not Strong enough, both mentally and physically, to take on the responsibilities that we as men should. And so when I see someone who is physically weak, like Mom Donnie, it doesn't make me think, oh, this is someone who believes in strong men. Is it symbolic? Yes. Are there people who are incredibly weak that are very strong mentally? Certainly that occurs. But when you are 33 years old, like mom Donnie, and it looks to me like you. You don't even know how to hold a bench, hold the bar. You've never been on a bench before. It is a sign, I think, of weakness mentally and physically. When it comes to the masculine ideal.

[Buck Sexton]

It all ties in, too, with. With the ideology, because victim ideology. That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy. You go down all of these thoughts, all these talking points. Democrats embrace this stuff, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Everybody gets a trophy. Competitiveness is wrong. I'm a victim. My choices don't matter. I'm not accountable. Other people hold me down. I'd be stronger, I'd be thinner. I'd be smarter. I'd be more successful if somebody else. Somebody else wasn't doing what they're. You know, this is very central to the modern Democrat Party ethos. And for people who say, well, what about all the lib billionaires? First of all, look at Jeff Bezos. Guy gets rich enough and, you know, he's taken enough steroids to, you know, probably give a horse a heart attack. So, you know, there's. They want to be strong, too, in some cases. And by the way, I think he's gotten a little bit more right wing as he's gotten stronger. So I'm actually all for it. And. And you look at.

[Clay Travis]

Which actually goes to your point, which I think is well taken, that if you just measure testosterone levels, as testosterone goes up, Republican voting becomes more likely.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it would be. I think it would be the. One of the strongest indicators. If you did blood tests of every American man walking into a voting booth, there would be some. There would be some exceptions. There would be. I think particularly, I think the correlation would break down among some minority voters where it wouldn't. You know, it would. But I think among. Among white men, you would have probably a pretty high. You know, just because of the. I think you'd have probably a pretty high correlation with low T. And voting Democrat. Yes, I think that is true. I think that is true. And it might be true of the broader male population as well. I just have to think about, you know, voting allegiance, cultural influences. There's other things, too. But if you just walk around and you had a good sense as to what the average testosterone level of a room is, I think you'll have a pretty good. A pretty good sense. Again, it's not perfect, but a pretty good sense about. About the politics.

[Clay Travis]

I tweeted that if you only allowed people who could bench their body weight to vote, Republicans would win 95. 5. I don't think it would be close like if you just said, hey, Instead of being 18, new rule, you have to be able to bench your body weight to be able to vote. I think it would be a massive Republican landslide.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, well, strength is something that. And, you know, generally physical fitness, I'd say, but strength is something where you either can or you can't. And it forces you to at least think in the real world, better version of can someone kick your ass or not. A lot of guys, you sit down and by the way, you don't always know. That's certainly the case, but guys generally will think about this. Like, if I had to take this guy, could I take this guy? It's a very right wing thought. Left wing is not to embrace, not to even engage, I think, in this kind of thinking and to assume that the world does not revolve at some level around these power dynamics and power relationships, which it still does, even if the left and the collectivists don't want it to. This is an iHeart podcast.