Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Sep 21 2025

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Sunday Hang Recap

Episode: Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck
Date: September 21, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Description: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle news, politics, and current events with humor and candid conversation. This week, their Sunday Hang focuses on dating dos and don'ts, urban crime and political strategy, upcoming events for America’s 250th birthday, and some listener-powered debate and sports trash talk.

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A lively, freewheeling episode mixing humor with hot takes on modern dating etiquette, the politics of crime in U.S. cities, and the lead-up to America’s 250th Independence celebrations—plus listener stories and playful sports rivalry.
The hosts pepper serious commentary with lighthearted banter about dating faux pas (gift cards, e-scooter rides) and sports challenges, fielding listener calls that spark debate on common sense, chivalry, and cultural changes.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Modern Dating Etiquette: Gift Certificates, Splitting Checks, and E-Scooters

• E-scooters and First Impressions:

  • Buck recounts a COVID-era dating misadventure involving an e-scooter ride:

    “I was like, for this...for this date… I’m just gonna, I’m gonna show up on my scooter because it’s convenient…I’ll give her a ride home...Those things are not meant for two people…we were going 0.5 miles an hour.” (04:17)

  • Clay: "I wouldn't have kept dating you... He won't even splurge for a Uber ride back home." (05:12)

• Paying with Gift Certificates on a First Date:

  • Clay’s strong stance:

    “If you go out to dinner with a guy on the very first date and he pays with a gift certificate, then he is really not that into you.” (06:32)

    • Argues it signals lack of interest and investment; unlikely any successful marriage started with a first-date gift card.
  • Listener stories and challenges flood in, including Melissa from San Antonio confirming her husband did this and they are happily married after 8 years (37:06).
  • Buck: “Blooming onions still preferable to splitting the check on the first date...Guys, you gotta pick up the [check]. Even if you don’t like her...you pay on the first date.” (07:50)

• Women’s Perspective:

  • Debbie from Long Beach offers a different take:

    “It wouldn’t bother me at all because...I would look for so many other things besides how he paid...Did he hold my chair, did he open my car door, was he sweet?” (41:13)

• Listener Quick Hits:

  • Free coffee with punch card, U-Haul rental for a date, and general agreement that the first-date payment signals seriousness and respect.

2. Urban Crime, D.C. Safety, and Political Maneuvering

• Security Measures in Washington, D.C.:

  • Norman from NYC: D.C. should be “the safest community on the planet.” Supports National Guard deployment to assist local law enforcement:

    “No excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington, D.C.” (09:05)

  • Buck compares COVID-era National Guard deployment (for contact tracing) to current debates:

    “They were fine with national guard holding empty M16s at airports during COVID…They just had people standing there with guns making you fill out contact tracing forms.” (10:08)

• Mayor Bowser's Tightrope:

  • Clay speculates that D.C.’s mayor, Muriel Bowser, quietly supports enhanced federal help (i.e., Trump’s initiative), but can't be seen as supporting him publicly:

    “She’s not coming out swinging hard at Trump…because I think she wants to leave open the possibility of taking credit for [any improvements].” (11:34)

• Gun Violence and Policy Correlation:

  • Clay: More guns in private hands, less gun violence; most legal gun owners are extremely law-abiding.

    “Concealed carry permit holders in this country have a lower violation of the law rate than law enforcement.” (16:36)

3. America’s 250th Birthday: UFC at the White House

• Major July 4, 2026 Event:

  • Announced that a UFC fight will be held on the South Lawn of the White House (22:30), with plans tied closely to Trump’s efforts to clean up D.C. for the milestone.
  • Dana White: “It is definitely gonna happen…July 4th, 250th birthday of the United States of America, live on CBS from the White House.” (22:30)

• Buck on the political motivation:

  • “Trump's decision to clean up Washington, D.C. is likely very connected to the fact that there will be many 250th anniversary events going on in D.C. and he wants D.C. to have its best look...” (23:47)

4. Listener Call-Ins & Audience-Driven Debates

• Dating Rules Revisited:

  • Numerous listeners phone in or leave talkbacks alternately supporting or challenging Clay’s "gift certificate" theory, often providing their own outlier stories.

• Male Cheerleaders and “Wokeness” in the NFL:

  • Listener from Jacksonville asks about Minnesota Vikings’ new male lead cheerleader; Clay and Buck discuss the difference between traditional stunting and progressive changes in cheer squads (34:56).

• Tennis Trash Talk and The Middle-Aged Man Olympics:

  • Glenn from Ohio, age 66, challenges Buck to a tennis match (“you would get smoked”), which devolves into playful boasting about athletic prowess and generational sports skills (26:39–29:19).
  • Ongoing friendly disbelief about Buck's claim to hit a 100mph tennis serve, with even Jim Jordan chiming in to express doubt:

    “We all love Buck, but I’m a no.” (54:40)

  • Buck’s retort: “If the speed gun officially says 98, am I gonna have people like, oh, that’s not a hundred?...People are saying 60 in the comments, Clay, 60. Get out of here.” (55:01)

5. Masculinity, Tradition, and Social Roles

• Hosts get candid about social expectations in dating, expectations based on age and life stage, and the importance of paying (or at least the message it sends).
• Clay: “If you are a man listening to us right now and you go out for a first date...and the guy’s like, hey, let’s split. Run as fast as you can in the opposite direction.” (45:33)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Buck on e-scooter fail:

  “We were moving at the speed of, like, a toddler’s Tonka truck, you know what I mean? ...There was a sustained laugh at my expense. And I don’t think there was a third date, but we did have fun.” (04:57)

• Clay lays out his iron rule of first-date payment:

  “I don’t believe there’s a single marriage that has ever resulted from a first date where a man paid for the dinner with a gift certificate.” (07:07)

• Norman on public safety and D.C.:

  “There is no excuses. No excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington, D.C....I agree with the president sending the National Guard...” (09:05)

• Listener Melissa’s anniversary truth bomb:

  “I wanted to let you guys know that 10 years ago I went on a blind date with a young man who took me to a very nice Italian restaurant and did pay with a gift card. This past May, we celebrated our eight-year wedding anniversary. But trust me, I still give him crap about paying with that gift card.” (37:06)

• Friendly listener rivalry:

  “Hey, this is Glenn from Ohio...I still think I can compete with you...Let’s get together if you’re not afraid.” (26:39)

• Clay’s bowling flex:

  “I was in a bowling league. I had a 185 average or something like that...” (33:20)

• Debbie from Long Beach on old-fashioned dating values:

  “Did he hold my chair for me? Did he open my car door...So many more things than how he paid.” (41:13)

• Buck on tennis serve skepticism:

  “People are saying 60 in the comments, Clay, 60. Get out of here. 60. This is madness.” (55:28)

• Jim Jordan checks in:

  “We all love Buck, but I’m a no [on 100mph serve claim].” (54:40)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:22] – Dating stories: E-scooters, gift cards, and first date etiquette
• [09:05] – Call from Norman: D.C. safety and National Guard
• [16:36] – Gun violence and policy discussion
• [22:30] – UFC at the White House: plans for July 4th, 2026
• [26:39] – Listener Glenn’s tennis challenge
• [37:06] – Melissa in San Antonio: marriage after a gift card first date
• [41:13] – Debbie from Long Beach: what really matters on a first date
• [54:40] – Jim Jordan weighs in on Buck’s serve

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Tone and Style

The episode is an energetic mix of wry self-deprecation, coach-style masculine advice, and sharp cultural critique, balanced by sympathetic listener stories and frequent humor. Regular detours into personal anecdotes and mock sports rivalries keep the show relatable and accessible alongside the more serious political discussion.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode’s strength lies in its rollicking blend of real listener engagement and the hosts’ chemistry—joking one minute, weighing in seriously the next. Need a laugh and some common-sense perspective on modern love, urban politics, and the national mood leading up to 2026? Clay and Buck deliver both, with just enough humility to make the bravado believable.

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Recommended for: Anyone interested in current events, cultural commentary, or simply some lighthearted takes on modern etiquette and politics, with plenty of audience voices woven in.

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[A]

Some of you coming to my defense on the E. Scooter thing, which is very kind of you. You know, it's efficient, Clay. I'm sorry. Some of us want to keep our carbon footprint small.

[B]

There is a zero percent chance if I were single that I would have scooted anywhere. I mean, I would have, I would have been late for every meeting just because I would have been afraid that some girl would come by and see me on the scooter and never date me again.

[A]

This is going to sound like I'm making it up, but I'm not making it up. But I feel like we're all family here. So I will tell you this, okay? During COVID a couple of years before I met my wife, when I was a single guy, I was, you know, I was out, you know, trying to meet the, trying to meet the love of my life, my beloved Carrie. And I hadn't met her yet. And it was a couple years before and I, I had the scooter because, you know, during COVID that was when it was great to have the scooter because you could fly all over New York. Not fly, but, you know, you could move really fast all over New York.

[B]

Because there were very few people out and about because no one out at that time.

[A]

So I, I could get all over, but you know, restaurants will be open sometimes. And I remember I was like, you know what? I was like for this, this is true story. I was like, for this. It was a second date to me. It wasn't a first date. I was like, but for this date, you know what? I'm just gonna, I'm gonna show up on my scooter because it's convenient and like, I'll give her, I'll give her a ride home on my little e. Scooter. And I didn't really think this through. You know, she was a, she's a petite lady. She wasn't big. I didn't really think this through, though. Those Things are not meant for two people. So when she got on the back of it and we tried to go. I'm not kidding. We were going 0.5 miles an hour. It was moving.

[B]

You would have been better off walking.

[A]

But, oh, walking is way faster. We were moving, but it was moving at the speed of, like, a toddler's Tonka truck, you know what I mean? When it kind of goes on the driveway. And we had a. We had a sustained laugh at my expense. And I don't think there was a.

[B]

Third date, but we did have fun. There you go. I wouldn't have kept dating you. I mean, I would have been like, this guy's riding a scooter. He won't even spin. He won't even splurge for a U Uber ride back home. It's probably cold.

[A]

The winds. I do wish there was. There was video of my face, though, when, like. Because, you know, I hit the throttle and I didn't know, and. And it kind of, like, lurched forward, and then it was just at, you know, at turtle speed. I mean, it was this. Old ladies with walkers were telling me to get out of the way. Slow poke. It was really not good.

[B]

I remember. This is kind of funny date story. Not for me. I've been married for 20, like, five years or whatever the heck it is. 22 years. Next year, next month, this month, anyway. A long time. 21 years. And. But I remember a girl being like, yeah, I went on a date. She was like, I'm a little. We used to do. I do anonymous mailbags at Outkick, and I would answer a lot of questions. Girl was like, yeah, I went on a first date. She's like, I just. I don't really feel like he was into me. And I was like, you know, in the email, and she was like. And as evidence of that, she said, he paid with a gift certificate. And I was like. I was like, I'm sorry, ladies. If you go out to dinner with a guy on the very first date and he pays with a gift certificate, then he is really not that into you because he's not even willing to pull out the actual credit card. And it's even funnier if it's like, can you just take the 20? You know, it's like a $25 gift certificate. So, you know, I'm just telling you, I don't believe maybe there's somebody listening. I don't believe there's a single marriage that has ever resulted from a first date or a man paid for the dinner with A gift certificate. Because I think women are like. Like, look, I mean, I'm not saying that. That I expected the absolute sun and moon and stars on the first date, but you took me to Applebee's or Outback, and you whipped out like that. The Outback gift certificate for the Blooming Onion. I'm just not saying that that's the guy that you want to spend the rest of your life with. Maybe there's somebody out there, if there's a single person listening who went out on a first date and the guy she's with paid with a gift certificate, gift card, then. Then maybe I'm wrong. I don't think there's a single relationship that has ever come from a first date gift certificate. So that is my advice to men out there, that if you're dating a girl or if you're the girl, if he's paying for you with a gift certificate, he's not that into you. He wasn't even willing to actually use real cash. He's using what his mom gave him for Christmas to take you out.

[A]

However, blooming onions still preferable to splitting the check on the first date. I will say so. It's. It's a little. It's. You know, this is in. This is purgatory. This is like in between, right? I mean, it's not great, but not terrible. Guys, you gotta. You gotta pick up the. Even if you don't like her, even if she's a lid, even if she's a Bernie Sanders voting purple haired. You didn't know this is what you were getting into. Date. You pay on the first date. Guys, don't, don't, don't make. We have young. We have young single men listeners here. 20s, 30s, 40s, guys who are single out there. You pay on the first date. Boys.

[B]

I agree 100%.

[A]

It's just the way it is. There's no if, ands, or buts. All right, Norman in NYC wants to weigh in. What's going on, Norman?

[E]

I'm still laughing about the credit card. The gift card.

[B]

Gift card. You can't do it, Norman. You can't do it. You've probably been married for 30 years, but I'm trying to help the young men out there. Don't screw this up. God.

[E]

The card was given to him by his mother. Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. It's like you got a Christmas gift card for the Outback Steakhouse. You're not even willing to take and pay the girls dinner for yourself. Your mom and dad are paying for it. Just can't do it.

[E]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[A]

You got Norman on. Do we have to come? Do we have to come back to Norman? Norman's. Norman's. He's tickled over there.

[E]

Let me say this. I think first and foremost, Washington, D.C. should be the safest community on the planet. First and foremost, that is where the President of the United States, dignitaries come from all over the world. There is no excuses. No excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington, D.C. the second thing is I agree with the president sending the National Guard there, and I think that it's important that the mayor takes the pride off the shoulder and say, I'm getting additional help in Washington, D.C. to be able to combat the problems that we face. I think that what I would do is pair up one law enforcement officer from the District with one National Guardsman to give it more power, to give people more comfortability. The word National Guard is scaring people. It's additional law enforcement. New York City talks about the fact that we need more police. Well, how? Take the 4,000 or 5,000 National Guardsmen that want to be deployed. Give them the opportunity to work alongside another police.

[A]

Can I point out something as well, Norman? All the people that don't totally, totally agree with your sentiments here, all the people that are freaking out about Trump deploying National Guard to help with law enforcement, they were fine with national guard holding empty M16s at airports during COVID As if that had anything to do with anything. I mean, they just had people standing there with guns making you fill out contact tracing forms. What was the National Guard gonna do, hand me some extra Kleenexes? It was absurd. And they were all fine with that. I just wanna point out no purpose for them whatsoever other than a show of force because we were all supposed to obey and bend the knee to Foushee, that vile turd.

[E]

Oh, absolutely. And let me say this. Tell a mother that lost her child to gun violence that she doesn't want more police in the community. Amen, father that doesn't have one. Come on, man. Get with potus. Let's do what we got to do. Yes, we're in uncharted territories in some area, but the ship is turning. Let's get on board, turn the ship and go in a different direction because all of this other stuff from the Democrats have not been working. It's just been kicking the can down the road.

[B]

It's great. Call Norman. Yeah, I agree with him and I. You mentioned this yesterday, Buck, and we'll play a cut for you. Maybe in a little bit. We're going to take a couple more calls. But I think Muriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C. actually agrees with Trump, but politically is not able to say that. Listen to her answers and how she's trying to thread that fine line. I think she welcomes the support.

[A]

She is not. If, if this were happening in Chicago, Mayor Johnson would be screaming about Nazism and racism and Trump as, like the head of the kkk. I mean, it would be complete meltdown, ok? Complete meltdown. That's not what you're getting from Mayor Bowser. She was pretty, you know, I mean, she's saying, I don't think we need it. She's trying to defend her record a little. Maybe we should get to some of those, get some of those clips. She's not, she's not coming out swinging hard at Trump on these things because I think she wants to leave open the possibility of taking credit for it, which if it gets better, she'll take a victory lap. And you know what, if she doesn't stand in the way, fine. You know, I mean, as long as it's getting better there, because we all know that people will understand that Trump was the instigator of these improvements. But, yeah, I think it's very interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. We've also got here.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you.

[B]

David in Florida.

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Yes.

[E]

Hey, listen, Buck, when the bike went dead, who pushed who on taking it back?

[B]

Yeah. What happened when the scooter was failing, what did you do? Did you like, just kick her to the curb and ride home?

[A]

I will tell. I called an Uber for her to take her home. And then I kind of, sadly, I didn't even really want to ride the scooter anymore. I kind of walked it home. You know when you skinned your knee as a kid on your bike and you were, like, unsure of it, you know, and you're like, I don't know, like, I skinned my knee. That's kind of how I felt about my e scooter. It was like I was defeated and I just walked alongside it in sorrow. Alone.

[E]

Yeah. Took your soccer ball and went home. So, you know, the solutions today for D.C. and the mayor's solution is as ridiculous as it was when Marion Barry was in office and the early 90s, it was a murder capital of the world, I think, a couple years consecutive. And that solution was to change the name of the basketball team from the Washington Bullets because of that to the Washington Wizards. That was their solution, I remember. And it's just completely out of ridiculous at a ridiculous level now.

[B]

So thank you for the call.

[E]

I want to ask you, I want to ask you a question real quick. I know maybe maybe 4th of July or something. Could you guys maybe play an old Paul Harvey rest of the story, the signers of the Declaration of Independence. It's a great, it's a great rest of the story, man. I think everybody appreciate it so.

[B]

Well, that's fun. That is a question for rights for people way smarter than me. Meaning producer Ali can can look into it. By the way, I will say 250th anniversary, I just saw this come across the Twitter wire here. Buck UFC fight South Lawn, July 4, 2026. That is according to Dana White. And I think Ivanka Trump is working on trying to put this thing on. They are going to do the fight and then have the fireworks. I'm going to try to pull some strings for us. Buck to get that's one of the coolest sporting events of all time to see a UFC competition on the south lawn of the White House and have it sort of connected also simultaneously to the extraordinary July 4th on the 250th anniversary of the United States. It doesn't get much Trumpier than that. But that by the way, speaking of July 4th is underway right now. Let's get one more quickly in here. Barney and North Carolina, what you got for us?

[E]

Yeah, my thing is with D.C. and all these other big cities are all Democratic run in Democratic run states and they're all anti second amendment and is there any correlation with the violence and crime? We're dead.

[B]

Thank you for the call. Barney. I bet was a big fan of Andy Griffith back in the day. Maybe named after the legendary Barney Fife. That is by the way one of the all time great shows. Do you ever grow up watching Andy Griffith Show?

[A]

Buck oh no.

[B]

Andy Griffith show is still so good. Black and white Andy Griffith before they went to the color version. Old school Andy Griffith shows. Opie everything else. Aunt B. So good. So what's interesting is we have seen skyrocketing levels of firearms purchase since 2018. Ish. I think if any firearm maker out there were looking at it, there are way more guns on the street now than ever before. And many of the places with the highest rates of gun ownership are actually seeing much lower rates of gun violence. And many of the places with the most restrictive laws on gun ownership are seeing record high levels of gun violence. Again, it is the legal gun owner, as many of you know out there is actually one of the most law abiding people. Like, leave aside gun crime, they actually commit crimes at infinitely lower rates than anybody else.

[A]

Concealed carry permit holders in this country have a lower violation of the law rate than law enforcement.

[B]

Wow. Yeah, that's a heck of a stat. Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. Todd in Mississippi has called in. What you got for us, Todd?

[E]

Yeah, you guys were talking about, you know, it's kind of low brow to use a gift gift certificate for, you know, a restaurant. I'm thinking, why the hell wouldn't you.

[B]

On a first date. On a first date, you're trying to impress a girl and she's like, hey, thank you for taking me to the dinner. And you're like, well, I just want you to know my mom is basically paying for this date. You're not worth my credit card.

[E]

No, see, I think that's where you're wrong here, Clay. You know, somebody gave you a gift certificate. I know you, like, you know, wherever. I'm gonna give you this gift certificate and you're saying, okay, I'm gonna save this. So, you know, it's my favorite restaurant. If I've got a hot date, I'm gonna be able to bring her there. I might be short of money in that week, but I'm gonna save it for a. For a special occasion. And you're gonna use your gift certificate for that.

[A]

I think Todd has used some gift certificates on day.

[B]

I think. Todd, are you married?

[E]

I long since married, yes.

[B]

Okay. On the first date that you went on with your wife, did you use a gift certificate?

[E]

They didn't have gift certificates.

[B]

That's why you're married today, Todd. That's why you're married today. She would have been like, I can't stay with this guy. He just used a gift certificate on our very first date. We'll have some fun. You guys can weigh in. We love you, Todd.

[A]

Thank you for calling it.

[B]

Thank you, but I'm glad you're married because you would have made a poor decision and tried to use a gift certificate with the love of your life. And she would have said, I don't think I can trust this guy. He doesn't even have the money for a bloomin at outback. Why do I want to be betrothed to him for the rest of my time? His mom paid for our date.

[A]

At least he didn't show up to the date on an e scooter and try to make it an e scooter for two. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

[B]

Could have been a lot worse.

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Sundays with Clay and Buck. July 4th next year, which is the 250th anniversary of America's independence, is going to include a UFC fight on the south Lawn of the White House. I had seen that report. The team did a good job and grabbed it. Here is cut 33. Dana White confirming that there is talk of a July 4th, go ahead, fight. America's 250th birthday next summer. Where at? Where at the White House. Pretty big venue. Is that gonna happen? Dana, what can you tell us?

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It is definitely gonna happen. I talked to him last night, him being the president, and I'm flying out there at the end of this month and I'm going to sit down and walk him through, you know, all the plans and the renderings and we're going to start deciding what he wants and doesn't want. But yeah, it's definitely going to happen. Well, think about this. When you were just asking me, you know, at the beginning how I felt about, you know, where we are today, July 4th, 250th birthday of the United States of America, live on CBS from the White House.

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Buck, that is going to be pretty awesome. Trump throwing the 250th birthday party in general is going to be phenomenal. But to have all of these different cool events, I'm sure there will be a deluge of awesomeness descending onto D.C. and hopefully it's a much safer D.C. by then.

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And I think it won't be 10 degrees outside like it was during the inauguration because that was a little rough.

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Well, it might be 110 degrees because it'll be the July 4th event.

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I would take, I would take that over what were subjected to at inauguration. It was, I looked like Leonardo DiCaprio in that movie where he gets attacked by the bear. You know that the revenue wearing like 10 bear skins to walk around in is very cold, very cold.

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I will say that I don't think a lot of people have talked about this. At least I haven't seen it. To me, Trump's decision to clean up Washington, D.C. is likely very connected to the fact that there will be many 250th anniversary events going on in D.C. and he wants D.C. to have its best look about it as people are coming in from all over the world and certainly all over the country to celebrate. So I do think there's probably a connection between the timing of Trump's decision on D.C. and our 250th anniversary. All right, we got a lot of talk backs. Let me hit some of these, by the way, 800-282-2882. You can go subscribe on YouTube, go sign up for Crockett Coffee, get an autographed copy of a book. You, if you go to crockettcoffee.com, use code book, get hooked up. It's the best coffee out there. We are celebrating soon the 250th anniversary of the country, but it's only the second anniversary of the coffee company. So we got a lot of years to go. But that's because of you guys. Crockettcoffee.com and subscribe on all the social media channels. Pam in Alaska where we have got the big meeting between Putin and Trump now scheduled for Friday in Anchorage. Newsradio 6:50 Ken I she has this to say.

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Buck, did Clay just say he's surprised or shocked that anyone dated you in New York while you were riding your scooter?

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This is coming from a man whose.

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Appearance has been compared to that of a homeless person and who has openly stated he doesn't know how to operate an oven or any kitchen appliance.

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This is all true.

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To be fair. To be fair, your appearance has not been compared to a homeless person. Your wardrobe has been, has been compared to a homeless person.

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My recollection is that emailer said that I had the beard of a homeless person. If you remember that emailer, I and.

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Your stand, I stand corrected. I, I, I rushed to your defense here, sir. I realize I've been mo, I've been mowed down by the machine gun nest too. So, yeah, okay, yeah, she's right.

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That emailer said he criticized every aspect of my physical appearance and then closed with, if I remember correctly, and your beard has the appearance of a homeless Person's beard. I'm paraphrasing, but I think, look, that's a lot of attacks. When she started, she sounded so nice and librarian like. And then much like with many criticisms, as she layered one sentence upon another, it continued to get progressively worse for me. So thank you, Pam. Now you're not without. Not without attack here. Let's see. Let me. There's a lot of good ones out there.

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Is this HH you want to get.

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To Glenn Glennon, Ohio? This is, I would say an unprovoked attack. Maybe the Pearl harbor of the show. Style attack. Listen to GG to HH.

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Hey, this is Glenn from Ohio. I'm a 66 year old tennis player, but I still think I can compete with you. Even though you just got rid of your dad body and you just put on a new tennis grip. I'm surprised you don't use tennis over wraps, but maybe you don't like them. Let's get together if you're not afraid.

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All right, you got this guy by 25 years. Bucket. He's talking trash.

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We gotta settle down here. We gotta sell that. First of all, this is a Turner. Grip over grip. All right, Just to be clear. And, and this is my Wilson pro staff because I like a stiff racket, you know, that requires you had a hit in the sweet spot, not one of these super light rackets with a giant sweet spot because, you know, trying to actually have some technique out there. And I'm just going to say this to you, Glenn, you're 66 years old. Unless you were on the pro tour, you would get smoked. Meaning unless you're a former pro tennis player at 66, I think, I think you're toast, my man. I'm just telling you, I'm not going to back down on this one. The wheels that I've got and then the forehand, the accuracy that I can do inside out, you know, you're just. I'm going to run you around that court, Glenn, and I'm going to have to probably stop and check on you. It's not going to be good for you, buddy. So I'm sorry. Challenge accepted.

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Basically just said he would put you in the hospital, Glenn. Senior citizen trash talk. What is your speed on your serve? What do you mean? Your apex is.

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I'm, I'm more of a. I'm more of a consistency guy. I mean, I could, I could juice it up to about 100, 110, 115.

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Oh, that's. Oh, that's ridiculous. Over 100 miles an hour. On your serve?

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Oh, absolutely, yeah.

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Oh, wow. Oh, that's really the. Glenn has no chance. No. 100 miles an hour on a serve is pretty rare, isn't it, in tennis?

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No, no, that's not, that's not. That's actually not that fast. I mean, you said how fast can I serve? How fast do I serve? Probably more like a hundo 100. But you know, there are the pros now serve routinely 125, 130. I mean, that's like, not. But yeah, I could probably do. I would say I serve on average about 100 and I could get it up to 110 if I wanted to throw a little shoulder into it. But it's a clay. It's all about what's up here, buddy. It's all about what's between the ears. You know, it's a, it's. It's a mind game. It's consistency.

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I don't think that many tennis players who are not really elite tennis players hit the ball 100 miles an hour. Right. I mean, that's a pretty.

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No, every, every college. Every college player is hitting the ball. A lot of them are. I mean, like. I mean, I basically, if you want to know. Yeah, but basically, like the level of a D3 college player when I was younger, I mean, I've beaten people who played D3 college pretty. You know that. That's happened many times in the past.

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Yeah. But D3 college tennis, I would think their drop off is not that significant. Right. Because tennis, it is closer.

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It depends on the school. This is the thing. It depends very much on the school. D3 Racket sports can actually like. I think Trinity College in Hartford had the best squash team in the country for a while. And it's a D3 school.

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Yeah. I mean, they would have soccer. This happens too, Right. Where you could be the D3 soccer team. Whereas if you played like D3 football or basketball, you would get smoked.

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No, I think soccer, I think soccer you get. It's really the racket sports where I think the.

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It's very close.

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It's also. Those are individual sports too, so the team dynamic matters. Matters less. But yeah, squash, tennis, you can definitely have D3 players who are really competitive. So, yeah, I mean, I was probably at like a. A bad D3 college player level, to be fair. And you know, I'd say I, I could do. Am I gonna have to post some video Clay? Am I gonna. If I have to get the serve gun out, I feel like clay is a little suspicious.

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No, no, I'M I'm actually impressed. Although my mom, speaking of senior citizen trash talk evidently, and I don't know because I have not watched him play lately. My 14 year old nephew is one of the best players in the state of Tennessee and my mom just said he could beat you. This is.

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Mom, if he's a state level 14 year old, he absolutely would beat me. Yeah.

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Really?

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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I have not watched him play lately.

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But I've played enough tennis and enough like open matches and enough places to kind of know what the, what the levels are. I mean if by 16 in tennis you can be a straight up pro, you can. People have won Wimbledon, it's 17 so. And I think Martina Hingis won Wimbledon at 16.

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I think you're right.

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14, you've got the, you know, for 14 you can be.

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Didn't Jennifer Yachty start playing when she was 14 on the professional tour?

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That very. Yeah, definitely. You can be a teenager on the pro tour for sure and not like you know, 17 and six months. I mean you can be 14, 15.

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Coco Golf was like a 16 year old. I know the Venus and Serena Williams.

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Well, this is why college tennis generally, this has changed a little bit recently, but college tennis generally has. If you were going to be like world class, you actually don't go to tennis. You don't go to college to play tennis because you're already on the tour. Usually that's changed a little bit. You've had like James Blake went to Harvard and he was a top player. There's a little bit more of this. There are some others but traditionally especially in the foreign players, they, they're pro by and they've been training by the way, non stop since they were like five.

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That's right. By the way, here are some funny. Well let's come back and we'll close out. Lots of reaction to my which I'll stand by. No one has ever gotten married. If a man used a gift certificate on the very first date with a girl, it's never happened. I do not believe it has happened in the history of the world. But a lot of people weighing in on my he's not that into you theory. If he's using a gift certificate on the very first date. I'm not talking about date 6 or date 8 or saving money because you're going to get married or whatever. I'm talking about the first date.

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You have upset the thrifty contingent of our audience, sir, which is considerable. People like value, they like a good deal. My wife, I don't know if anything other than like seeing our baby smile or playing fetch with Ginger out in the yard. I don't know if anything makes Carrie happier than getting a great deal.

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I will tell you this. If you had taken Carey out on a date. The vet. Where did you go on your first day? Do you remember?

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Oh, yeah, of course. Peninsula Hotel.

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Like to like the rooftop of the Peninsula. Yeah. Okay. Fabulous.

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Where Jesse Kelly maxed out your credit card on $80 shots of tequila.

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Yes, that's right. I will say, I don't know that they have gift certificates at the Peninsula Hotel, so I don't even know. I don't even. They probably don't even sell gift certificates. That's a super high end place. Well done by you. We went on our first date to bowling. Very romantic guy that I am, Laura Travis and I.

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Were you better than her because your wife is very athletic.

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She is.

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I'm not sure that I would put money on you to beat her in bowling. Necessary.

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I'm actually a really good bowler. Oh.

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Oh, look at.

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I was in this couple of. Couple of bowling leagues. I. I was over. Over 200.

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You never told me this. You were like the big Lebowski guy. You were on the bowling team.

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I was in a bowling league. I was, you know, getting it up near. I think I had a 185 average or something like that, which is pretty good. I mean, it's.

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So this is why you went first date bowling. You were like, let me show you how I roll, lady.

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Literally. And it's now been torn down that bowling alley. But I do think if I had taken her to Chili's and I've been like, boom, I got whatever you want at Chili's. Mom gave me this gift certificate. I don't think we'd be married. I think she. She might have found it so funny that she was willing to. To hang around. But we didn't have any money of any significant nature. We started dating, so maybe she would have been more forgiving than not. Maybe she's listening right now. She can text me. I think it would have been a. I think it would have been a big no. And I think, again, guys out there, I'm trying to save you. I'm trying to get you married, have kids, live happily ever after. Don't use the gift certificate on the very first date, because the girl's gonna be like, he didn't even think I was worthy of actual credit card, actual cash. I'm just telling you.

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I think there's a little bit A little bit of filibustering going on here. Of all of the people who want to make their case, Clay, that the gift certificate on the first date is fine. This is podcast listener Brian from Jacksonville. JJ hit it. Hey, Clay and Buck. This is Brian from Jacksonville. I want to get Clay's opinion on the fact that the Minnesota Vikings just hired a male cheerleader as their lead cheerleader. NFL is going woke. What is that?

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I just.

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That's not. That's not.

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I don't know. I do know that they have been putting gay slash trans slash dudes. And look, to be fair, there is a difference between a male cheerleader who is, like, a stunter and is throwing a girl up in the air and she's doing, like, flips and everything else, and a guy who is, like, in sparkles and sequins and is dancing with the girls. The first one. If you have those kind of cheerleaders, more power to them. They can't do the stunts without them. No, no negativity. Lots of colleges have that. Some NFL teams do. The whole guy in a sequence, like, dancing around is crazy, by the way. So I'm very anti that. My wife weighed in. She said, I think it really depends on the stage you are in life. You and I were broke and living on law school loans, and we started dating. So I likely would have forgiven the use of a gift certificate, but by today's standards, I'm not sure I would accept a gift certificate on a first date. Also, your nephew is actually 15, not 14, and she says she's skeptical that Buck can serve 100 miles an hour. Oh, she is firing off.

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Okay, now it's on, Laura. Now it's on. There's gonna be video. There's gonna be video of this. It has to happen. It probably has to happen. Some people are saying, buck, serving in.

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Tennis, I want to see you doing 100 miles an hour. Also, in my defense, the. The kid had a birthday, like, three months ago. I, I, that's pretty close. Like, he's now 15, but it, like, in May, he turned. I think I get a pass on that. If you're an uncle and you're within, like, a couple of months of how old your nieces or nephews are. Like, I, I don't think that's a big whiff by me, but he's 15 now. We got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's roll these over.

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We're gonna have to get this guy drug tested too. He's older than we thought. You know, what else is it what else is in the.

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I was definitely rigging the game here. I thought he was 14. My son is 14. He. This. His. His nephew.

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Clay's 14 year old nephew shows up. He's got like a beard, tattoos on his arms. Get bench 300. He's like, hey, I play tennis.

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He's got three kids, mortgage, already served a tour in Nam. Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.

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Melissa in San Antonio who listens on the great woai play it.

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Hey guys, it's Melissa in San Antonio, Texas. I wanted to let you guys know that 10 years ago I went on a blind date with a young man.

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Who took me to a very nice.

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Italian restaurant and did pay with a gift card. This past May we celebrated our eight year wedding anniversary. But trust me, I still give him crap about paying with that gift card.

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So she kind of saved you there at the end, Clay. But that's clearly going in the. You know, maybe some, some people. Doesn't bother.

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Happy anniversary. Melissa overlooked it. She overlooked it. Hey, by the way, if you're really.

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This, this guy, like this guy probably had abs. This guy probably looked like, like Ali's husband. Like, you know what I mean? This guy could sell men's bathing suits or something.

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Um, I, if you got the G. But a lot of people want to weigh in if you missed it yesterday I said there's no marriage that has ever occurred where a man paid for the first date with a gift card at Chili's at Bottomless Wings, at. At. At any of the Buffalo Wild Wings. So Melissa, congratulations. Maybe duck out and go find the waiter with the card so she doesn't see. But I actually would like to hear from Melissa about what her thought process was on that first date. The blind date when he played with the gift.

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I'm telling you, he, he had some mat. He had some magic something going on there. There. There was an X factor that this guy brought to the table. I mean, Clay, was he 6 3? Was he 6 4? We all know some of these, some of these ladies, the height thing, which I personally don't under. And that whenever I say this because it was because you're so short.

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People.

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Someone came up to me. Actually no one person came up to me in Highlands. So, like, you're much taller than I thought you'd be. Do I look really short? What is this? They've said it to you too. Clay and I. And they didn't pick us for this reason. Put us together. We are both 6ft tall. We are not lying to you. We. You can stand us Back to back. I mean, you know, Clay might be like. Like an eighth of an inch taller or something. We are both six feet tall. And it's like. But people are shocked by this, which.

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I don't understand is. My wife is 5:2, and I said, if I were 5:8, would you have dated me? She said, probably not.

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I know. Oh, Carrie. Carrie's. I think, five three. Honey, how tall are you? I think she's five three, maybe five four. And she also was like.

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You were like. I just was.

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I just was torn off of the amusement park. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just made the cut. All right, let's get to Dustin from Maricopa, Arizona. Listens on KFYI. This is B.B. hey, Clay and Buck. Dustin from Maricopa, Arizona. Hey, Clay, you should put a poll up on Twitter or X and see which one's worse. Using a gift certificate for your first date or showing up on a date.

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On an E Scooter like the Bucksta.

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Can I just.

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You tell me, New York City, how often do people go to dates on E Scooters? I honestly have no idea.

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Well, why are we limiting it to New York City? There's E Scooters all over Miami. And.

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Okay, no one in Nashville would show up for a gate. For a gate for a date on an E Scooter and have any success in life at all. So I think it has to be a city that is compact, where people regularly. I don't know how often people show up on scooters. Like, if I were meeting.

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If you put out that poll, I'll just say, I. It could go either way for me. I. I think probably scooter is a little worse, but I think it would be like a 55, 45 poll situation.

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If I had a buddy and I was like, hey, let's go meet for a beer. And he showed up on a scooter in Nashville with a helmet on. I. He would never hear the end of it from me. I think he would just immediately turn around and leave.

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I wasn't wearing a helmet because helmets don't fit my giant head. So don't worry about that.

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All right?

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There's no helmet with my E Scooter.

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Probably should have to be safe.

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That's true. CC Debbie from Long Beach, California, listens on Keib the Patriot. What's going on? Let's play it. Hi, Clay and Buck. This is Debbie from Long beach about the gift certificate. On the first date at a restaurant, it wouldn't bother me at all because.

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I would look for so many other things besides how he paid, I would look for. Did he hold my chair for me?

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Did he open my car door?

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Did he chew with his mouth closed?

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Was he sweet? Was he funny? Did he have a good sense of humor? So many more things than how he paid. Can I say Debbie could do voiceover work?

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I would say Debbie has an unbelievable voice. She sounds like somebody who. Yeah, legit. Could be a voice actor. Maybe she is. She's out in California, Frank. In Columbia, South Carolina. Gamecock country. What you got?

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My wife and I's first date was.

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For coffee and hers was free because I whipped out my five punches and.

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You get a free cup of coffee card. So. Yeah, on our very first day.

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Oh, no.

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My wife's coffee was free.

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And she saw, but it was almost.

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The punch card. You're punching the girl on the first date. You pulled out your coffee club punch.

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Frank. Can we just say. Can we just say, Frank, you're a champion. Obviously you won the race. You've got your lovely wife and. But I'm telling you, man, you. You, you stepped into that race with it with a satchel of rocks on your back, man. That's not an easy one to pull off. So good on you.

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Can you imagine pulling out the punch card? You're not even going to throw down the $4 for her cup of coffee. You're like, hey, it's buy one, get one free, babe. I just. Wow. I can't believe that worked, Jerry. Great.

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Great. Yeah, play it. My brother in law took a date out using a Home Depot rental truck for delivery, and he picked her up and they went on her date, but he was only allowed to use it for 75 minutes. So apparently the date was kind of cut short. Can I just. I'm gonna throw something out there. I actually think that this is. I wouldn't view this as a negative if you leaned into it and you made it a conversation piece because it's so. It's so crazy that it's funny. Like if you showed up in a U Haul van to pick a girl up on a date, you clearly, if you have a story for it, even if you have to make the story up, I think that that's a good way to weed out whether somebody has a sense of humor or not. Right? Like that's it. So to me, it's. It's so crazy that it works. That's what I would say.

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I just. Does he not have a car otherwise? Was he so scrimped or cramped for time that he wasn't able to actually drive a normal vehicle. I have actually more questions about. That is very funn to get picked up. I mean, I guess it's like kind of the equivalent of getting picked up in like a FedEx truck, which I'm sure is a big no, no, because I'm sure you're not supposed to take girls out on dates in a UPS or a FedEx truck or a police car. Did you. Did we talk about the guys at the fire department who picked up the hot chicks and drove them and they got in trouble? Right?

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I mean, you know, if you're going to be a fireman, you can't pick up a hot lady and give her a ride on the fire truck. Come on.

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What?

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I thought this was America.

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I think it was New York City. The fire guys like were.

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It's very.

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By the way, this is. Oh wow, Mike, with the illegal use of the hose line there. I. I'm not surprised at all that firemen would pick up cute girls on the street, but evidently the girls were posting about it and it was a huge controversy in New York City.

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But I think the FDNY has got to get a carve out. You know, if she's like a solid seven or above, she gets a free ride to where she has to go her next dest. I don't think that's a big deal, but yeah, they got in trouble for that. One GG listener Jeff from Minnesota.

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I can see it now. Dana White hosting UFC on the lawn of the White House with an opening bout of buck schooling the 66 year old in tennis.

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Let's get it rolling.

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This is very, very funny. Yesterday a 66 year old called out bucks tennis. By the way, we got one more. This is actually good advice, I think. Always pay. If you are a man listening to us right now and you go out for a first date and. And by the way, if you're a woman listening to us and the guy's like, hey, let's split. Run as fast as you can in the opposite direction. That is not a dude you want to be with. He might as well be wearing a male feminist T shirt. Todd FF had this to say.

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Hey guys, I once took a girl out and she tried to split the check and I picked it up, looked her straight in the face and said, what kind of guys you been hanging out with that don't pay for the check? And you know, I didn't marry that girl, but. But it definitely scored me some points.

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No doubt. And by the way, oh, go ahead.

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I was going to say that.

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I was going to play this but if you missed it earlier. Buck has been challenged on his ability to hit 100 mile an hour serve. Lots of people in the comments, not very, very favorable here but excuse me.

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Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. The comments are about 70, 30 doubters versus supporters. OK 70% doubters which they're not good at math or they have bad eyesight but 30% are like yeah, no, that's about 100 miles an hour. So I'm just saying.

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JJ got your back here. Lawrence in San Antonio. Listen, all right.

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I believe you can hit 102. My name is Lawrence. You played in college? I played anyone who is skilled. If you look at the length of the arm and the length of the tennis racket and the snap at the top of the serve with brand new tennis balls on a first serve, yes, I believe you can hit, let's say 102. That's my bet. How do I send you $5 for the bet?

[B]

This would be fun. How far do you think you could kick a field goal? Have you ever thought about this?

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I mean I was a reasonable high school soccer player. Like reasonable not good. So it was, you know, I didn't play in like Olympic development programs. Although one of my kids on my, one of the guys on my team did. I that's why I know what that is. He was much better than me. I don't know what's, what's like, what's like what's reasonable athleticism but not good. That's where I would put myself with kicking a football at. I am not good at throwing a football. I'm good at throwing a baseball. I shouldn't say good. I'm reasonable throwing a baseball. I do not have a good spiral. That is what. Because I never played football.

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I would think that you, if you played soccer and you have decent technique I would think most decent guy soccer players would be able to make a 20ish yard field goal without too much difficulty. So that would be.

[A]

I would have thought I could hit 30. That would have been my guess. But maybe that's a little too far.

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No, I think 25 is probably a good over under. I don't know. I haven't actually tried this but if you have decent foot contact and you're. And you have a decent foot strength I think 25 yards is a. Is a very reasonable potential. You have video of you doing a.

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Field go turning the show is turning the clay and buck middle aged man Olympics here.

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I never, I don't know that I've tried a field goal. My brother in law tore his, I think he tore his like hamstring trying to prove oh no, that he could kick a 30 yard field goal. I mean again, a lot of this stuff just comes down to stretching. I was mentioning because we were talking about your a hundred mile an hour and I was talking about throwing and a ton of people reached out to me and they said, you know when you're trying to do that laser at a minor league baseball game or a. I think they still have them at a few major league teams games, it's not like you're getting loose at all. So you're just stepping in raw if you're not loose. The older you get, the more likely you are to pull something. Somebody said to me once and I think it's accurate that the definition of age is you go to bed feeling great and wake up feeling like crap, right? Like you just wake up and your shoulder somehow hurts and you're like, all I did was get into bed, right. It's not like I went and did a triathlon. I think there's a lot of truth to that. You go to bed, you're like, man, that was a great day. I feel fantastic. Let me go ahead and turn on the lights. Next morning you wake up and you're just in pain. That is the definition of getting old and middle aged man Olympics is it's really easy to hurt yourself if you have not gotten loose beforehand.

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Wasn't there the comedian? Who's the comedian?

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Who.

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My head is giant so unfortunately hurts the aerodynamics of the serve a little bit to have such a large cranium, but that's okay. That's all right. And speaking of sports, you know, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I, I was feeling like, you know what? All right, all right. So there's a little, a little harder than maybe, maybe I need to hit a little harder than that video to get to where we need to be. None other than Jim Jordan, who I believe is a state champion wrestler. Clay has, has weighed in on this one to say that while he respects my technique and recognizes that Mr. Buck has game, he thinks a hundred miles an hour may be just a little, maybe just completely out of reach.

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