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Mary Kathryn Ham and Carol Markowitz
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now.
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Buck Sexton
President Trump has decided that he will invoke his section 740 of the Home Rule act power for the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C. which gives the President of the United States the ability to commandeer the Metro Police Department, which is the local police in Washington, D.C. because of an emergency situation. We have the President describing this, actually, let's just, let's let you hear from President Trump directly on this. It was a, it was quite a moment. This is Cut one. Play it.
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Donald Trump
Under the authorities vested in me as the President of the United States, I'm officially invoking Section 740 of the District of Columbia Home Rule act, you know what that is, and placing the D.C. metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting the people that will be directly involved with that. Very good people, but they're tough and they know what's happening and they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help reestablish law, order and public safety in Washington, D.C. and they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.
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Buck Sexton
This is a big move from the President. I have to say. I really like this and support this and we'll get into some of the details of this, Clay. But essentially the President is saying enough is enough. D.C. which as we are very honest with you, I am, I am fond of the District, as is Clay. We've both lived there. Clay went to college there. I lived there as a CIA analyst way back in the day and then later on in life as a media personality for a short while. So we've both spent a lot of time in D.C. the crime situation there is way too high, let's just put it that way, Clay. They're running all these stories now. Oh, crime is the lowest. It is. Don't we all want there to be no crime in our nation's capital? Shouldn't this be something where we can get some degree and we'll get into why there isn't bipartisan agreement? There are a number of reasons for this, but there's a whole range, I think, of options and opportunities here to bring the crime level down to Tokyo levels. I mean, that's really what we would like to see instead of we've had fewer carjackings by 15 year olds, fewer people shot and murdered in the streets of our nation's capital for no reason. How about shooting for none, Clay? How about deciding that we're not going to allow this madness to continue? Because you and I are both familiar with it. D.C. was always more dangerous when I lived there than post New York City, post Giuliani, rather New York City. It wasn't even close. DC Was always a far more rough place to be, starting around the early 2000s.
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Clay Travis
This is an example of something that Trump is doing that should have 100% approval that Democrats will automatically hate. And I think it's indicative of why the Democrat brand is in the toilet. Because whether you are a Democrat, Republican or independent, or just somebody who doesn't vote at all, you should want our nation's capital to be safe. No matter what your politics are, you should want big cities in this country to be safe everywhere. And I think Trump sees Washington, D.C. as a jewel of the nation. As we talked about last week, if you look at the rates of murder in D.C. compared to virtually every major city in the world, D.C. is off the charts, unacceptably violent. And you've got Judge Jeanine who is in position now as the D.C. attorney of Record there. And I think what we are basically seeing is Trump wants to fix problems that exist everywhere. And even in that press conference said, hey, we've solved everything at the border. We are in the process of resolving many different issues associated with trade imbalances and economic issues and everything else. But even in that, in that press conference, which was a tour de force, let's be honest, we went from Joe Biden can't even take a question from the press without it being written out in advance on a note card for him to, as you said, buck. Yes, the ostensible purpose of the press conference was to discuss D.C. but Trump took questions on China. He took questions on Putin and Russia and the situation in Ukraine. Basically everything under the sun with no preconceived to my Knowledge. Knowledge of where the questions were coming. And he handled them with aplomb. Right.
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Buck Sexton
We'll address that as well. He talked because, of course, the press asked him about big thing on the horizon, the planned meeting in Alaska of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to try to bring an end to the Ukraine conflict. Trump got into some specifics there also some discussion of. Well, Trump's brought up the transports issue, Clay, basically, just to be like you. Be like you Democrats are crazy.
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Clay Travis
They are.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, just. You guys are nuts. Just to be clear. Democrats, you're nuts. Trump just threw that in. I appreciate that. You know, he had to season the sauce a little bit. You know, he had to spice it up. He's like, hey, by the way, you are the lunatics who think that men should play against women in sports. So not really that into hearing what the Democrats have to say on any particular issue. But he also talked about Nvidia with a deal to sell chips to China. He addressed some of the concerns around that. So to your point, Clay covered a whole range of issues and also makes jokes and is funny and the whole thing. I mean, it was a Trump a thon. Ok. It was a Trump bonanza up there. You also had Pete Hegseth in the mix, Pam Bondi, the attorney general. Judge Jeanine, this is very important. Judge Jeanine is the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. Because there's the police and the prosecution components of this that have to get aligned, and that's a big deal. We've all seen, I'm sure, Law and Order, right? I mean, I remember waking up hungover in college, and I think I would watch sometimes like six hours of Law and Order in a row on a rainy Saturday. Law and Order is addictive, but it's, it's the, it's the police, you know, the detectives who investigate crimes, and then the prosecutors who handle them. It's actually a good way to think about these issues. Clay. The issue isn't just in D.C. getting to the arrest. And Judge Jeanine made this very clear. It's what happens to the people that do the very bad thing once the prosecution is supposed to bring a case against them. And a huge problem they have in D.C. is you have these youths. I think that's how they're generally referred to in the press, people under 18 who are doing very adult crimes. And, you know, this, this gets into this area of, ok, if you shot somebody and didn't kill them, and you're 17, Judge Jeanine says that you can get probation for this. This is Stunning, right? I mean if you don't murder somebody, rape somebody, you know, forcible rape somebody, there's a few other crimes that she pointed out. You can be 16 or 17 and get essentially, you know, you give me 14 or 15. By the way, what the heck is going on when we have a society that is producing 14 year olds who are trying to carjack people? 14 year olds, this is not usual.
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Clay Travis
In D.C. i think it's just there's no dads in homes. I mean, I think you really get down when you have a 14 year old trying to carjack somebody. It's a fundamental failure of parenting because those kids are so young. That should never be happening. And I think it's that we've knocked dads out of so many of these homes. I bet every 14 year old in America almost that is getting arrested for something like carjacking. There is no dad at home. Almost 100%. Well, that's.
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Buck Sexton
You're going now to even more upstream or root cause of the problem. And that's obviously true. And the data on this about. And people get very upset about this, but it is just the truth. We're talking data. When we talk data and statistics, I don't really care if people get upset by it. In fact, it's probably a good thing that people hear data and statistics that upsets them because they need to hear it. If they don't already know it or they don't already understand the implications, they need to hear it. Which basically means almost every Democrat that, you know, I will say, Clay, I have, I have a close, close friend who, let's just say, has been very close to the mayor of D.C. and the interesting thing here is that Mayor Bowser would like crime to go down and would like to do more. What prevents her from doing more, politically speaking? I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not absolving her here, you know, but Trump, you'll notice Trump isn't as hard on Bowser as he is on like a Gavin, you know, Gavin Newscomb or you know, the mayor of Chicago. I mean, there are, there are people who are in positions of authority in this country, mayors and police commissioners specifically and city councils who are just flatly insane. They're pro crime. They're all Democrats. There are no Republicans who are actively pro crime. There are Democrats who are actively pro crime. And the problem in a place like DC is that the city council is insane. And there are considerable contingents of the Black community in D.C. that react very angrily and politically to any Crackdown by police. So what this does is it creates a situation where President Trump now by federalizing this issue could dramatically bring down the crime rate in our nation's capital. I said could, but it is possible. And then you would have Bowser, the mayor, who's obviously, she's a black woman, she's the mayor of D.C. been mayor for years, is in a sense insulated from the political blowback among some members of the black community for the crackdown that will make all members of the black community and all D.C. residents safer. This is, you know, this goes very deep, but this is the problem. Why is there such pushback? Because Democrats play this game and elected Democrats. A city council plays this game. Clay, people forget this and we can get into a little more of the Home Rule of 1973 act and how, you know, how it affects D.C. congress has ultimate responsibility for D.C. there is the home rule means that there's the mayor and there is a local jurisdictional situation for. And you know, you can vote for the people in charge of your day to day life in D.C. but President Trump actually has some specific authorities as the president, especially under an emergency declaration like this, Congress not only can deal with budgets in the District, Congress can override legislation passed by the D.C. city Council. And I would remind everybody that I forget the year, but it was pretty recent where Congress stepped in to override the D.C. city Council, making the punishment for carjacking less.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Too crazy even for Democrats. So this gives you a sense of what they're dealing with, Clay, in the city of. Well, in our capital city.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And here is the data that I think ultimately brings this home. Let me hit you with this as we, as we go into the first break and I would just say open phone lines, by the way. We're gonna talk with Congressman Jim Jordan at the bottom of the hour. He's got some news. We'll discuss what he thinks about whether there should be more control taken over of D.C. among other things. But Buck, we mentioned this last week. The White House just shared this. I want anyone out there to defend this regardless of your politics. 800-282-2882. The 2024 murder rate in Washington D.C. was 27.5 per 100,000. Right. Residents. Listen to these other cities that aren't exactly known for being wildly safe. Bogota, Colombia, you heard Trump talking about at 15.1. Mexico City 10.6. So our murder rate is nearly triple what the Mexico City murder rate is.
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Buck Sexton
Listen to some of these other London's is easy because you can barely measure it. Per 100,000, which is what they usually do. Per hundred thousand homicides is how you get these numbers. London's is one.
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Clay Travis
Yes, one. But I mean, Islamabad, do we think, hey, this is 9, let's see, 9.2. Lima, Peru, 7.6. Paris, 1.6. You heard Buck mention that, that London is 1. Madrid is under 1. Delhi in India is 1.5. Havana, Cuba is 1.5. Why would anyone. I think this is a sign of how broken Democrat ideas are. We've got a clip, we'll share it for you eventually, of MSNBC coming in, analysts coming on and saying, well, this is evidence of Trump's racism, that he's trying to crack down on crime in Washington, D.C. their ideas are broken and they don't want good things to happen if Trump is involved in them because that points out how they were unable to fix them things.
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Buck Sexton
One of the initial points you made, Clay, this is something that everyone reasonably rationally should be behind, Democrats won't. And this is both the right thing to do and the smart thing to do. The right thing to do because it'll mean fewer carjackings, fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer gang stabbings, which will disproportionately, by the way, mean less of that happening in the Black community in D.C. i already gave the stats. We know what the stats are. Over 90% of those who are incarcerated in the District of Columbia for crimes committed there are black. So it will disproportionately affect members of the black community who are law abiding, who want to be able to go on the metro or go to work or just walk through the park and not be stabbed or attacked. And it's going to be high profile. This is why it's smart. It's going to be something that even the press is going to have to cover. They don't want to, but they will because it is our nation's capital and they live there. Where does the media live? New York and D.C. if this is going on in their backyard, guess what? They're going to have to deal with this. And this can show the failure of Democrat policies on crime and the success of Trump and the Republicans on this issue in a way that will become unavoidable. I think it's a really big deal, a big moment. I'm very pleased to see the President doing it.
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Clay Travis
You're listening to Team 47 with clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
This was over on. Was this MSNBC or cnn? It was one of the communist.
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Clay Travis
And let me just point this out before you play it. Of all the opinions I've ever given, I want there to be less people murdered in America. Seem to me to be one of the least controversial takes in my 20 year media career. Hey, I hate murders and I wish less people got murdered. I thought, man, this is something that everybody could agree with. I was wrong. I've been getting lit up over this. It's. It's really one of the funniest things.
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Buck Sexton
I would, generally I would, as his cornerman, I would, I would rush to his defense of this. But this is, this is just weak sauce. Stop to bottom. But here is a former Jeb, exclamation point, Bush comms director. So one of those Republicans who now just is a Democrat but refuses to say it and goes on Democrat channels to attack actual Republicans. Here he is attacking by name Clay Travis on MSNBC for saying things that all of us are saying. But here we go. Play one.
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Clay Travis
This is all a power play, right? It's all about the vibes and the look. And that's why you've got guys like Clay Travis on Fox News, I guess, rooting for living in a military state right now, because they're trying to demonstrate strength and machismo. And it's mostly more about that than about the policy.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, your testosterone has just overwhelmed the MSNBC table over there.
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Clay Travis
By the way, I don't even see how testosterone is involved in wanting less murders. Are there people with high levels of estrogen that just want more people murdered?
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Buck Sexton
Excuse me, Clay, the claim was made that it was your overwhelming machismo that is driving this assessment.
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Clay Travis
I will acknowledge to MSNBC that in comparison to virtually all of the men that appear on that network, I would have overwhelming machismo. But this felt like somewhat of a calculated attack, Buck, because yesterday I'm just. Media Matters. Media Matters wrote the headline. This is a real headline. Out kicks Clay Travis. Federal takeover of D.C. should be a test case for whether we can go into other cities. And then they pulled. Here's my quote that they said was so unbelievable. I would like D.C. to be a test case for whether we could go into other cities where far too many people are being murdered and help to drive down the violent crime rate there as well. I again, I'm not surprised. Usually when people come after me or you for something that we might say, because there are things that we say that people on the left would be unhappy about. This, to me, is the least. Being in favor of there being fewer murders is the least controversial thing I may have ever said in my media career. But I think it's. It's indicative of their inability to pick rational things to fight about because they're just so reflexively anti Trump that even things that are not particularly political, hey, let's have less people die in D.C. they automatically line up against him on it really is derangement. That is not getting better.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I'm glad Clay was able to take a moment to stop smashing beer cans against his face and belching the Alphabet with all of his machismo, talking about how that's good. Yeah, it was amazing. I saw that. I said, wow, really? Just, just throwing elbows at my man Clay over this one, too. This is not even you. You say way great. No one even remembers what you said about Michelle Obama. I was like, oh, they're going to come after him on that one. But nope, apparently not.
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Clay Travis
So that's like the 748th least controversial thing that I said yesterday. And somehow that's the one that they decided.
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Buck Sexton
Like when I got attacked on HBO for my hot take on sports for Simone Biles not being like the bravest for stepping out of an event. Remember, that was. It's always the ones that you don't expect. It's always the ones, you know, the takes that you put out there that you don't. Ok, let's dive into now the crime situation and this back and forth, because I think once again, Trump. Well, oh, wait, no, this was my favorite. This is my favorite. Anan Jirad Harad. Jirid Haradas, Jira Haradis. I'm actually trying to get that one right. Jared Haradis was on Morning Joe. I did not see this live. Unfortunately, my Morning Joe viewing did not catch this one. But this is the kind of stuff that is being offered up. Meanwhile, Cash Patel is saying, yeah, FBI just arrested a whole bunch of very scary, very bad, bad dudes, bad people who have committed very serious crimes who are out there in D.C. so things are already happening. They're already taking action to take violent criminals off the streets. Over at MSNBC, this guy, Mr. Jiroda Hardis, is saying that this is what he's worried about. Play 2.
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Jared Haradis
A relatively small crime problem is being used for specific authoritarian purposes that we know and understand. So let's be clear about. D.C. does have a really one really big crime problem, which was the January 6th insurrection incited by the current president United States. And his first act in coming back was pardoning all the people who tried to overturn constitutional republic order in Washington, D.C. when I go to D.C. i'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote. I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is nonexistent.
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Buck Sexton
Clay I'm not scared of crime in D.C. i'm scared of climate change. Might be that the most perfect distillation of lib MSNBC delusion I have ever heard post Covid. I mean, it might be the craziest thing, and I'm sure he's not alone in believing this.
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Clay Travis
I think that opposing Trump trying to bring down violent crime in D.C. may be the craziest anti Trump position that Democrats have taken yet. I look, there are other things Trump, I think, has exposed them on men and women's sports, for instance, but that's a choice they made prior to Trump. This is a direct response to Trump saying, I want to bring down the overall death rate in the country in our nation's capital. I want it to be a beautiful jewel of a city with low crime, low homelessness, less graffiti, less waste product everywhere. And this guy comes on and says that he's worried about climate change more than he's worried about being mugged. I First of all, that's a lie. There is no one who, especially an effeminate man like him, there is no one out there walking the streets of D.C. late at night that is thinking as they breathe the air, oh my goodness, I am terrified of climate change. But thank the Lord I don't have to worry about getting somebody knocking me in the back of the head. That doesn't exist. That. And this is one of the things that I think is exposing Democrats and is their arguments are so profoundly inauthentic that even people who might believe in climate change don't believe that argument. And I'm surprised that guy has kids because I frankly, that's not an argument that sounds like someone with a functional penis would make. So congratulations to him on that, I guess. But this is, you know, maybe that's machismo coming out of me, but come on. Like, this is not, this is not a real argument that a rational human being would make and he doesn't even believe it. Right. I mean, this is, this is the essence, I think, of their collapse as a party why they keep hitting new lows in support and why they basically have no men in America that are supporting the Democrat Party. Now. Would that have functional brains at all? I think it's arguments like these.
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Buck Sexton
Spoken like the mansplaining machismo expert himself, Clay Travis, all the machismo, just, just, you know, oh, I can't handle it all. Yeah, man, crime is bad. And anyone who's lived in D.C. or spent time there knows that this has been a. Remember at one point it was the murder capital of the United States. I understand it's gotten a lot better since then, but it also got a lot worse in 2023 relative to where it has been in the 21st century. And there's also more and more evidence that they're cooking the books and that their prosecutors are downgrading felony crimes to non felonies to make things look better. And anyone who has seen the show, the Wire, remembers this and anyone who's worked in a major police department knows this is something that is a temptation for the brass. Oh, yeah, we're doing a great job in this precinct because we're actually not doing the arrests that we were doing before or on the prosecutorial side. Same idea. We're just going to downgrade all these arrests to something that's not a big deal.
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Clay Travis
Also, Jan6 as in some way a, you know, the worst day for America since the Civil War. Even trying to continue to make that argument, which is something, something that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden tried to sell. There was barely a blip when Trump pardoned everybody who was involved in Jan6. Now, partly that's because Biden pardoned his entire family right beforehand, but I also think it's an understanding that they played that for every ounce that they could and there's just no juice left in that, in that orange, so to speak. The Team 47 podcast is sponsored by.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
More on the DC crime drama they're still going for. They're still pushing it. In fact, Clay, something that you see today, DC files a lawsuit challenging the administration's police takeover. This just happened today and this is still breaking. So the District of Columbia has filed an emergency motion challenging the Trump administration's attempt. They're going to have a judge listen to this. The issue as I see it here, it's pretty cut and dry that the President can do this. So you're going to have to find some. And you know, I know The Democrats have a million ways they'll say it violates the Administrative Procedures act or something. No one even knows the Administrative Procedures act is. So this is just what they say. The people who say they know what it is don't even know what it is. So I'm wondering where they're really going to take this and what this judge is going to say. And we still have the redistricting fight going on. By the way, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom has kicked off his campaign for a proposition. Play your buddy Gavin. I think Gavin is still the lead. I think he is the leading Democrat in the country right now. Bernie Sanders gets more live hype from the tours he does. But I think Gavin views himself as the alpha male. We're going to get into the alpha males, Trump and Putin here in a second. But what do you think of both the DC Emergency order challenging this or emergency challenge, I should say, to the crime takeover? Well, let's start with that one. I'm seeing this as they're just making it worse for themselves. And at this point, all Trump has to do is just keep doing what he's doing and everybody who's opposing him is going to look increasingly foolish.
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Clay Travis
It is indisputably the case that Trump has the constitutional authority to act as he did in Washington, D.C. with that in mind, it is also possible that a federal district court judge could in the D.C. area question whether Trump has that power, particularly Boasberg and the and the anti Trump contingent of the district court judges. So the media will chase whatever the district court judges do. But remember the ninth Circuit, I believe one of the federal district court judges, a brother of Stephen Breyer, if I'm not mistaken, in the San Francisco area, said that Trump didn't have the right to call in the guard in L. A And almost immediately that was reversed as it moved up the legal hierarchy. But it wouldn't shock me if a judge said that Trump can't do what he clearly can do because many of these judges are basically politicians in robes. And so he can indisputably do this. Lawyers everywhere who have even spent a scintilla of time studying this, not a difficult case. But that doesn't mean that some judge might not say, well, I don't think he could do it, you know, for some reason just to write an opinion to get a lot of attention, this.
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Buck Sexton
Is what we're going to see. Are the resistance judges in D.C. willing to remember this is not an interpretation of, of like a broad spectrum authority that the president has this this is specifically in the District of Columbia and looking at a law passed in 1973 that has been good law for 50 years that deals exactly with this issue that says Trump can do this. This is. Trump has 30 days. He can do this. It says it in the law. Are we going to have a judge that comes along? I'm, I'm, I could go either way.
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Clay Travis
50.
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Buck Sexton
50, I think.
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Clay Travis
50, 50. Whether he could have a judge say that he can't do it. Eventually, judges will say he can, but there might be one judge who says he cannot.
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Buck Sexton
It'll just, it's fascinating, though, because you see this. Judges no longer, when it comes to Trump and the hashtag resistance judiciary, they are no longer. There's no longer the fear of embarrassment at being completely slapped down. 9, 0. Remember when they tried to kick Trump off the ballot in Colorado. I think they talked about it in Maine. Right. But they actually were moving forward on her in Colorado Supreme Court. 9. Oh, even Sotomayor, even Ketangi, Brown, Jackson were like, guys, I mean, we got to pretend. We got to pretend at least. Right? This is not even pretending to care what the law says. This is pretty close to that for me. Based on the reading of the 1973 Home Rule act, if a judge manages to come up with some way to stop Trump on this, it's just a judge saying, I don't like Trump. They're not even pretending the law matters.
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Clay Travis
I also think this is where there should be some consequences. When judges engage in behavior that's way outside the bounds of what the law is. When you get lifetime tenure, there's virtually nothing that happens to any of these federal district court judges. Sure, there's a measure of embarrassment on some level for people who want to actually apply the law, but I think in many ways, that's canceled out by other judges giving them pats on the back and saying, way to stand up to that tyrant. Way to stand up to that authoritarian. This is what judges should do. And honestly, I think if you get overruled 9 oh, I think you should actually have a consequence. You know, a good example, as you were just pointing out, the Colorado Supreme Court, everybody wants to forget about it because now they're saying, oh, redistricting is putting democracy on the ballot and all these things. The state of Colorado voted to pull Donald Trump off of the ballot and not allow people there to vote for him. And the Colorado Supreme Court said, four, three, that's appropriate. We can do this. Looking at the federal constitution, and then the actual Supreme Court looked at it and said, nine, oh, no, this is unacceptable. But all of those people in Colorado, there were no consequences for them being wrong. There were no consequences. We barely even talk about what they tried to do. And what was it, Maine that followed up, there were multiple states that were willing to get in line and say Trump was disqualified from being able to be eligible for President of the United States. If that's not an actual legal insurrection, what is? You know, that's the phrase Kathy Hochul used to describe Texas redistricting. Pulling a candidate off the ballot and not allowing your citizens to vote is, to me, a level of attack on basic democracy. In the process of electing the worst president, that may have been the worst.
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Buck Sexton
Judicial overreach we've seen in the Trump era against Trump. Because it's. When you think about, they also were just deciding that this. There was no. There was no process to speak of. I mean, they just said, yeah, Trump did a thing I don't like, so he can't be on the ballot.
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Clay Travis
You can't. And you can't even point to that just being one Judge Buck. Which is why I find it so troubling. The Colorado Supreme Court, I believe there's seven Supreme Court justices in the state of Colorado, voted for three. We're going to do this. So that actually went through the entire Colorado court system, and they said, yes, and then they got slapped down. 9, 0. And I'm mentioning it now, and I bet a lot of you are just now thinking, oh, yeah, I totally forgot about that, because there's so many legal process and procedures that have been put in place since then. I think that was, of all of them, the most egregious. And so when you hear somebody like Kathy Hochul, Governor of New York, say, oh, this is a legal insurrection, referring to Texas redistricting, I think it's important to remember what they did legitimately in trying to take Trump off the ballot. And it had to go all the way to the Supreme Court to put his name on the ballot. I can't think of anything that's even remotely comparable that any Republican has ever done that is a legal attack of a similar nature on Democrats.
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Buck Sexton
Meanwhile, there are Democrats out there. This is. As somebody who's been in Baghdad during a war, I gotta tell you, here's Tiffany Cross, Democrat, saying, I guess this is over at cnn, cnn, msnbc, you know, tomato, tomato, it's all the same these days. Here she is saying, remember, she's upset. This is cut 5. She's upset not because DC is dangerous, but because there are too many people who are there to make it safer on the streets. Play five.
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Tiffany Cross
I mean, this is frightening. I kind of disagree with you both. It's not a distraction. And the way we're normalizing fascism is frightening. I left D.C. today. It looked like Baghdad. The way that the National Guard has taken over, the way that they have militarized the police force there, it is scary. And so the fact that he, he has previously threatened to have Gavin Newsom arrested. He had the, the Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security secretary. I mean, for her, killing puppies is business as usual. She's not in any position to even be qualified to oversee a department with this ice does not have the authority to arrest anybody. He is deploying them, like you said, like it's his own personal, personal police.
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Buck Sexton
Force, just ignoring everything that's true and just saying things that are crazy and emotionally charged and even, even a shot about gnomes, puppies in the past.
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Clay Travis
She did leave herself open to that. But I'm not, I'm not defending it.
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Buck Sexton
I'm just saying working. This is a kitchen sink strategy. It's fascism. Attacking gnome for the dog thing, all this stuff. She's, she's, she's going all in on this instead of just saying for a second. Hold on. First of all, there are. I've seen plenty of. There was an armory near where I grew up in New York. You see people in military uniforms all the time. Why is it scary to see people from the National Guard? Why would that be a bad thing? This is a little bit like why police on your block should make you feel safer. And if they don't, you should ask why.
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Clay Travis
I agree. And anybody out there who doesn't want more police is probably doing something illegal. And here's a big question. Worst case scenario, Trump does all this additional mobilization of resources to help try to make D.C. safer, and the crime rate stays basically the same. That's the worst case scenario. Absolute worst case scenario. Has anybody really considered what happens if it works? Imagine if Trump brings these resources to bear on the District of Columbia and suddenly violent crime drops by 40%. Look at what he did on the border, where basically nobody talks about the border. It's important sometimes to remember stories that were big. Oh, Trump can't be on the ballot. He's not a constitutionally eligible to be president. It just vanishes. Nobody even mentions it. The border, Nobody mentions that at all. Has anybody really thought, this is why I love the move that Trump is making? I don't see a downside Democrats say, hey, we've got too many police. Most people say, well, we should. If you're upset about too many police, you're probably a criminal. The only person who's upset about a drunk driving test is the person who's driving drunk, right? Like if you're driving, you know how the person, they can catch you because some guys are like, oh, and you turn and go the opposite direction and they pull you over. If you see a drunk driving checkpoint, it's probably a sign that you may have been drinking. The only people upset about drunk driving checkpoints are people that might have been drinking. To me, the only people upset about more police on the streets are people who are actually engaged in criminal behavior. But Buck, what if it works? What if in two months we have a 50% decline in violent crime in D.C. what if carjacking plummets? What if the number of murders plummet? What do Democrats do then? And worst case scenario, nothing changes. And the problems are so intractable at D.C. right now that more troops and more police on the ground don't impact things. But I just see this as brilliant. When you write, when you analyze risk, reward, if the risk is zero and the reward is massive, that to me seems like something you should do in all facets of life. And that to me is this.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And yet they're still going to scream about this and say that it is fascism.
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