Team 47 - MAHA Uncensored

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Team 47 - MAHA Uncensored
Date: February 22, 2026
Main Guests: Jeff Hayes (Filmmaker), Stephen Yates (Heritage Foundation, former White House National Security official)

Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive into two major themes:

• The state of American healthcare, over-prescription, and the emergence of the “Make America Healthy Again” (MAHA) movement, featuring documentary filmmaker Jeff Hayes.
• U.S. foreign policy focus, with a detailed segment on escalating tensions with Iran, prospects for regime change, and adjacent regional affairs, joined by Stephen Yates.

The episode is peppered with both light-hearted exchanges and high-stakes policy discussions, capturing Clay and Buck’s signature blend of political insight and relatable humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. American Medicine & Over-Prescription

(Guest: Jeff Hayes, 03:29–10:09)

• Jeff Hayes discusses his new documentary, “MAHA Uncensored,” which takes a critical look at the business model driving American medicine.
  • “We ended up doing 16 chapters in this documentary where we cover pharmacy benefit managers, diabetes, cancer, longevity, functional medicine.” (Jeff Hayes, 06:13)
• Severe over-prescription, especially of antidepressants (SSRIs):
  • “25% of the country is on SSRI. And we had one psychiatrist who just flat out said it. Not one human being should be on an SSRI. They don't work and they have potent side effects.” (Jeff Hayes, 04:19)
• Over-medication of children:
  • Cases of very young children (as young as three or four) being prescribed SSRIs and ADHD medication, with little understanding of the long-term effects on developing brains.
  • “We have no clue what this is doing to a developing brain. And we're not addressing the real problems.” (Jeff Hayes, 05:11)
• Key Solution Proposed:
  • “The number one thing we can do for our drugs and drug prescriptions is fix our food supply, because that’s where it starts.” (Jeff Hayes, 06:03)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If we just cut half of all prescriptions in this country, would we have any change in the actual longevity outlook? ...In your mind, how overmedicated do you think we are?” (Buck Sexton, 03:29)
• “We could get rid of way more than half of the prescriptions in this country.” (Jeff Hayes, 04:19)

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2. The “Make America Healthy Again” (MAHA) Movement and Political Alliances

(03:29–10:09)

• The rise of “MAHA Moms,” a crossover group from traditional RFK Jr. supporters to backing Trump, spurred by skepticism over children’s health and medical guidance.
  • “That was where Bobby coined the phrase make America healthy again, impromptu. And the MAHA movement was born.” (Jeff Hayes, 07:13)
• Controversy over Trump’s executive order designating glyphosate a matter of national security, which has alienated some within the movement (07:13).
• Hayes predicts lasting change if the movement can stay nonpartisan and focus on the core mission of children’s health.
  • “You never bet against fierce mothers... That's how things are changed.” (Jeff Hayes, 09:06)

Memorable Moment

• On the fusion of grassroots health activism with mainstream politics:
  • “When President Trump introduced Bobby [RFK Jr.], that stadium went wild... President Trump was stunned. Bobby was stunned.” (Jeff Hayes, 07:13)

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3. How to See the Film

• The documentary “MAHA Uncensored” is streaming for free, with registration at mahamovie.com. It premiers on February 24 and features serialized chapters. (Jeff Hayes, 09:47)

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4. Geopolitics: Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and U.S. Strategic Objectives

(Guest: Stephen Yates, 13:45–27:39)

Iran: Negotiation or War?

• Current U.S. posture: Significant military buildup in the Middle East and “dual track” approach of negotiations and preparations for possible air strikes.
  • “It is stopping the illegal support for the Iranian regime financially... And the President has proven a willingness to do that... I think the odds of a strike that would be an active war, but not a total war, very high over the next two weeks.” (Stephen Yates, 14:43)
• Goals of Potential Strikes: Focused on degrading nuclear and military capabilities, not direct regime change.
  • “I think that the targets... would look more military, so it would be nuclear, but also some of the ballistic missile and other capabilities to demonstrate that we can do this.” (Stephen Yates, 16:29)
• The real issue: If the regime were to fall, what comes next?
  • Drawing lessons from Iraq and Venezuela, Yates cautions about “installing” U.S.-favored opposition and advises a more organic transition.
• Viability of Iranian royal family as a transitional government: Some diaspora favor nostalgia, but perception as a U.S.-backed choice is a potential liability.

Regional Dynamics & U.S. Allies

• Gulf allies’ attitude to Iran:
  • “They have blood feud with the theocratic regime... They would much prefer to have a reform oriented government there and they would invest heavily.” (Stephen Yates, 24:21)
• Cuba & Venezuela: U.S. using non-military levers (economic pressure, oil cutoff) to foster regime transitions without instability.
  • “We’re really seeing a very sophisticated approach to easing these transitions without America going in to push it too far...” (Stephen Yates, 22:29)

Congressional Foreign Policy Gaffes

• Amusing reference to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (AOC) flubbed answer on China-Taiwan at a security conference, with mock advice on improving her prep.

Notable Quotes

• “If the opposition was seen as chosen by the United States and our president, then there could be maybe grounds for greater resistance. So a more organic and sort of stepping stones across the river approach seems to be the way they've gone.” (Stephen Yates, 20:59)
• “For a lot of the world that suffers from pretty high dose TDS [Trump Derangement Syndrome], if it's perceived as being Trump's choice, there could be a problem...” (Stephen Yates, 20:59)

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5. Viral Moment: Pro-Trump Grandma at Black History Event

(28:09–29:01)

• Clip played of a grandma voicing passionate support for Trump’s new crime bill at a White House Black History event:
  • “If you kill somebody, okay, you take a life, you do life, just that simple. ...And grandma said it.” (Pro-Trump Grandma, 28:09)

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6. Economic Update: Mortgage Rates

(29:01–31:07)

• Mortgage rates at a four-year low (around 6%) — potentially good news for spring homebuyers and the housing market.
  • “We get them back down to 5%, it's going to make a tremendous difference.” (Buck Sexton, 29:01)

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7. Light Banter and Listener Engagement

(31:07–32:06)

• Buck’s book “Manufacturing Delusion” surges on bestseller lists — but alert listeners flag a typo (“contact tracing” printed as “contract tracing”).
  • “The toughest thing about doing an audiobook is you see things that you want to fix and it’s too late because they’re off to the printer already.” (Buck Sexton, 31:58)
  • “I read the manuscript, the final manuscript, 30 times through... and I didn't catch that one.” (Clay Travis, 32:06)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:29 – Introduction to Jeff Hayes and discussion of over-prescription in America
• 04:19 – Data and expert views on SSRIs and child medication
• 06:03 – Fixing the food supply as a solution
• 07:13 – Birth of the MAHA movement and “MAHA Moms”
• 09:47 – How to watch the “MAHA Uncensored” documentary
• 13:45 – Stephen Yates on U.S.-Iran tensions
• 14:43 – Odds and objectives of possible military strikes in Iran
• 16:29 – U.S. strategic goals and regime change debate
• 18:42 – Comparisons to regime transitions in Venezuela
• 20:14 – Iranian diaspora and royal family debate
• 22:29 – Cuba and Venezuela, non-military pressure
• 24:21 – Gulf allies’ perspective on Iran
• 25:31 – AOC in Munich and Taiwan gaffe
• 28:09 – Viral pro-Trump grandma speaks at White House event
• 29:01 – Mortgage rates hit four-year low; housing economy discussion

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Notable Quotes

• Jeff Hayes on over-prescription:
  “Not one human being should be on an SSRI. They don't work and they have potent side effects.” (04:19)

• Stephen Yates on Iran strategy:
  “I think the odds of a strike that would be an active war, but not a total war, very high over the next two weeks.” (14:43)

• MAHA movement genesis:
  “When President Trump introduced Bobby, that stadium went wild... and Bobby coined the phrase Make America Healthy Again, impromptu. And the MAHA movement was born.” (07:13)

• Pro-Trump Grandma at the White House:
  “If you kill somebody, okay, you take a life, you do life, just that simple... And grandma said it.” (28:09)

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Tone and Takeaways

The tone switches between sharp policy critique, grassroots populism, and bursts of humor. The MAHA movement segment lifts health activism above partisan lines, while foreign policy discourse remains grounded and cautious—a reflection on recent U.S. military history and its consequences. The episode wraps with viral culture, an economic pulse-check, and a dash of self-deprecating humor, making it accessible and engaging for both regular and new listeners.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Jeff Hayes, Award winning filmmaker, director of a new documentary called maha Uncensored, premiering February 24th at mahamovie.com A hard look at the business model behind American medicine. Jeff, we appreciate you. You've also directed the films the Real Anthony Fauci and On Native Soil. So let's dive in here right off the top. We have a lot of discussions about drug prescriptions and the medical industry in general. What does the data tell us about the degree to which Americans are overprescribed? In other words, I've had the theory. I'm curious if you would sign on. If we just cut half of all prescriptions in this country, would we have any change in the actual longevity outlook for people in their health? In your mind? In other words, how over medicated do you think we are?

[Jeff Hayes]

Yeah, and it starts with the over medicalization of kids. But you know, when you look at just SSRI as just antidepressants, 25% of the country is on SSRI. And we had one psychiatrist who just flat out said it. Not one human being should be on an ssri. They don't work and they have potent side effects. And so, you know, we could get rid of way more than half of the prescriptions in this country.

[Buck Sexton]

What about over medicating kids? We talk a lot about gender transition surgeries and the fact that finally people are recognizing that that doesn't make sense. But that's actually a tiny pinprick of the amount of drugs that kids are on these days. It skyrocketed in the 21st century. What does the data tell us?

[Jeff Hayes]

Yeah, we had one of our experts who was working while he was getting it, finishing his medical degree, was working at a state run institution and he had kids as young as three and four that they were putting on SSRIs and then when you, you add to that where we're medicating for adhd, we have no clue what this is doing to a developing brain. And, and we're not addressing the real problems.

[Buck Sexton]

What would you, I know you just did an entire film on it, but let's pretend that. And I'm sure you have, in some ways you've been able to talk with the administration. If you had a magic wand, what would the healthiest thing be to do for America when it comes to drugs and drug prescriptions?

[Jeff Hayes]

Well, amazingly, the number one thing we can do for our drugs and drug prescriptions is fix our food supply, because that's where, that's where it starts. And so this, we ended up doing 16 chapters in this documentary where we cover pharmacy benefit managers, diabetes, cancer, longevity, functional medicine. It grew where we had to do about 1630 minute chapters. This starts on the 24th, but it goes over nine days just because there was no way it would fit into a one and a half hour film.

[Buck Sexton]

One of the, I would say, most transcendent and intriguing aspects of the 2024 election has been this union of Trump supporters. And also then a lot of moms that, that may not have traditionally been Trump supporters, but came in through RFK Jr. And now have become a part of the Trump movement. What do you see from, and what do you hear from these moms that are questioning a lot of what is being told to them about the health of their kids?

[Jeff Hayes]

Yeah, I was in the room that day in Phoenix when Bobby canceled his campaign on August 23rd. And we're sitting there, he'd wanted some friendly faces in the room. So I had flown out. And after that, they said, hey, we're all going to a Trump rally. And 24 hours earlier, I didn't know I was going to be in Phoenix, much less on the front row of a Trump rally. And so next thing you know, we're there. And when, when President Trump introduced Bobby, that stadium went wild and it was just on and on. And President Trump was, was stunned. Bobby was stunned. And that was where Bobby coined the phrase make America healthy again, impromptu. And the Maha movement was born. Now, these Maha moms right now are kind of ticked after the presidential order that, that, that President Trump just signed a few days ago, making glyphosate in the interest of national security. So, you know, we definitely want to hold on to these maha moms and, and, and see what the thinking was behind that. But I knew when all of a sudden I saw those forces join, I'm like Wow. The market for my material just went up by a factor of 100.

[Buck Sexton]

When you look at this, this overall story, which is still in its early days, what do you what stands out to you? You mentioned the, the union of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The coining of Make America Healthy Again, this movement that has become transformative for many people out there. Do you feel as if we are seeing the pin prick of an impact? Do you think it's going to grow? Where do we go from here?

[Jeff Hayes]

Yeah, you never bet against fierce mothers, so yeah, that, that's how things are changed. Is is moms protecting their children. And I think that now that we have Bobby and his Secretary of Health and Human Services, we have a lot of public support. If we can depoliticize Maha and just all agree we all want to have healthy children, I think we can make some changes. But there's some structural things in the way that medicine is run and food is run in this country that we're going to have to dismantle and it's going to take some time.

[Buck Sexton]

How do people find the movie? What should they know? How can they see it?

[Jeff Hayes]

Yeah, we put it up for free. They can go to maha movie.com and pre register and on Tuesday the 24th they'll see in the first place chapter is how did we get here? And it's a fascinating story.

[Buck Sexton]

I can't wait to check it out. We're going to watch it. Jeff Hayes, thank you so much for taking the time today.

[Jeff Hayes]

Hey, thank you for having me.

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You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck.

[Clay Travis]

We are joined by Stephen Yates. He's a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a former White House National Security official. Our friend, Mr. Yates. Great to have you, sir. What's going on, Bucks?

[Stephen Yates]

Great to join you. Thanks so much.

[Clay Travis]

So we want to ask you about whether we're going to war with Iran. It's a big question and the reason we're asking is because as we know There are. There's sort of a dual track situation playing out. On the one hand, there's negotiations, I think, in Geneva. Sounds, sounds right over Iran's nuclear program that the administration is involved in. And then there's also a build up, a substantial buildup of military assets, aerial assets, specifically F35s, F22s in the Mideast, prepared for what could be a sustained aerial campaign against Iran. What do you see happening here? How do you think this plays out?

[Stephen Yates]

Well, Buck, I think that the President and his team are doing far more than any of its predecessors to kind of increase the chances of a negotiated settlement of sorts. It's very, very difficult to see there being any security from the nuclear program under the current regime. That's why the says that if the regime were to change, that might be better. He's not saying he's going to do it, but the armada that is there is doing two very substantial things. It is stopping the illegal support for the Iranian regime financially. That has been a big vulnerability in the past. And of course it has the ability to strike hard. And the President has proven a willingness to do that not very long ago. So this should increase the chances of a negotiated settlement. But I have to say, bottom line, I don't see this regime in Iran negotiating in good FAI in an appropriate amount of time. So I think the odds of a strike that would be an active war, but not a total war, very high over the next two weeks.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, so what is the goal of the strikes? Thanks for coming on, Steve. I mean, I think that is kind of where we dive into next because the understanding that we had, and I think it was the right decision on the first strike, was this is directly a. Directly attributed to trying to eliminate Iran's nuclear arsenal. Right. Or their ability to develop a nuclear arsenal. Are we trying to replace the Ayatollah with this strike? Are we still going after nuclear weapons? I think this needs to be a huge part of the discussion in general is what is the strategic goal here? Do you have a sense for that and what. How do you think the administration goes about making that choice?

[Stephen Yates]

Well, I completely agree that it's necessary that we've fought off the ghosts of Iraq in many, many different ways. But that idea of making clear what the strategic objective is and what America's role is relative to other countries role very, very clear. I think that the targets that they would hit would look more military, so it would be nuclear, but also some of the ballistic missile and other capabilities to demonstrate that we can do this. And there's nothing they can do. Knock them back a little bit to maybe buy more time and see whether they sober up for real negotiations. There's, I think, this added layer of statements that were made about the atrocities that are committed by the regime, the human rights violations, and I have deep sympathy for that. But I don't think that is the proper use of the US Military. I think that's the area that has to be made much, much more clear. The strike had to be degrading the capabilities of the regime while they have maximum pressure to degrade the economic capabilities of the reg. And the rest of the world is gonna have to step in and help handle some of the other elements of the political transformation, in my view.

[Clay Travis]

Steve. Yes, the ghosts of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars loom large in all these conversations. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, in terms of making sure that we don't get pulled into something. And I think Trump is very wary of getting pulled into something deeper and in a much. At much greater risk to us and to our people than we want to be. So as part of that, one of the conversations that I think keeps coming up and people have been asking me, so I want to pose this to you and get your take on it. In Venezuela, okay, we took Maduro out and, well, took him to prison cell in New York, but there was a clear pathway of other people and really much of the rest of the regime is in charge there now. So there's kind of an ongoing negotiation process about what will happen and how that country moves forward. But the US clearly has a lot of leverage. What is the opposition in Iran? What is. Do we have any real sense as to if the mullahs fall? If they fall, who takes over?

[Stephen Yates]

Buck? That is the most important issue that they have to work through. And I don't take it as a given that whatever the US does in near term is going to be about regime change. I think what they demonstrated in Venezuela is that a step along the way is that we are going to change maybe the nature of the current regime and renegotiate sort of the terms of trade and dealing with the United States and the world. And under these new terms, maybe we buy more time for a longer term transition to whether it's an opposition or a reformed country. But in Venezuela, the opposition is not yet in charge. It may be in the not too distant future if there's an election. The same goes with Iran. I mean, the de Ba' athification issue in Iraq, which you. You know as well as anybody just is one of the biggest ghosts of the what people think of as a failure in the Iraq strategy. Keeping some of those institutions in place so there isn't broader instability and mayhem across the region is one of the priorities they have to have. So I think there could be a move that that gets at the top leadership and there could be a change to someone else in the regime. Personally, I would love it if this regime went away. But I personally just think that the US Role is to strike hard the way no one else can to contain fallout as best anyone can. But it's the Abraham Accords countries and others that really need to be managing more of how do we have an economic and political relationship that's different with Iran?

[Buck Sexton]

We have a lot of Iranian listeners on this program. A couple of months ago we opened up phone lines and said, hey, what kind of support is there in your social networks for Iranians in the United States? For the royal family to be installed in some way as a holder of power, that is a transition to potentially a new government. Do you like that idea, Steve? Is that a crazy idea in your mind? Again, building on what we learned in Iraq, sweeping out one group and trying to replace another can be dangerous. But there is some form of nostalgic positive reflection on the royal family, if only based on how awful things have been under the mullahs.

[Stephen Yates]

Well, I agree and that could be a viable alternative. But I think one of the things we felt got stung in the Iraq situation was having a leader that comes into place that is just viably identified as the American choice. And for a lot of the world that suffers from pretty high dose tds. If it's perceived as being Trump's choice, there could be a problem of trying to hold coalitions and investment and other security engagements that are necessary for that transition. I think that might explain why we have this muddled or middle ground approach in Venezuela too. If the opposition was seen as chosen by the United States and our president, then there could be maybe grounds for greater resistance. So a more organic and sort of stepping stones across the river approach seems to be the way they've gone at that. That might be more what they try with. But I do think that looking at viable alternatives to the theocratic regime, most of the diaspora agrees with that, which is a fancy way of saying the people who are Iranian that live overseas. And then I think there are also large parts of Persian culture that are not Islamist that could work with that kind of an approach. But it needs to be seen and Protected as being the Iranian people's choice.

[Clay Travis]

Steve, I'm in South Florida and so I gotta ask, how shaky do you think the regime in Cuba is?

[Stephen Yates]

Yeah, I think it's very shaky. And that's an area where I think, oddly, while people wouldn't attach smart power to the make America great again foreign policy, I think that we've used some very effective levers that are non military. We've used our military to cut off the oil. That is an immense pressure on them. The move in Venezuela politically was tied very, very close to them. So in terms of political warfare, economic warfare and economic security, we've really maxed options. And so I think we've got the best shot we've had for this external pressure campaign to maybe give a different path forward. But what fascinates me is really in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran and maybe other places, we're really seeing a very sophisticated approach to easing these transitions without America going in to push it too far and have it blow up back on us.

[Buck Sexton]

Buck asked a good question about Cuba and I'm utterly fascinated about that. But also on Iran, you mentioned it. I think this is important. There's a big difference oftentimes between what is publicly said and what is privately said, particularly from the other Middle Eastern countries, Saudi Arabia, et al, that clearly have made the decision they don't like Iran and would like to see changes made there. Do they actually want the Ayatollah out in your impression? This is the Saudi Arabia's, The Bahrain's, the UAE's, just kind of running all through all these different countries that are technically Muslim countries but are not allied with Iran? Or do they, deep down, like the fact that the Ayatollah is such a disaster that they don't have to worry about Iran as a regional threat so long as he is there and therefore don't actually want him gone. Do we have a sense on that?

[Stephen Yates]

I think there is a pretty clear sense. And you know, in our country, I don't think enough Americans appreciate the fact that the Iranian regime has threatened to kill our president more than once over the history of this dispute. That kind of matters. I mean, just remember, presidents are human beings, but also you just can't allow that if you are a sovereign power and a global power and these other regional allies, believe me, they have suffered, suffered under assassination attempts and other kinds of violence against them. They have blood feud with the theocratic regime across the water from them, in many cases across a border like Iran and Iraq. It's, I think, very, very clear to them that they would much prefer to have a reform oriented government there and they would invest heavily and there is a path to peace and prosperity that way. But it's expanding the ethos of the Abraham Accords and under the theocratic regime in Iran, that's not an option. They support the radical terrorists that attacked Israel and believe in river to sea mentality and that is not compatible with our allies in the Gulf.

[Clay Travis]

Stephen, before we let you go, I'm sure you saw AOC showing up in Munich to show off her foreign policy skills. Did not go, I think as planned. She was asked about this crazy thing that no one had ever heard of before. The China Taiwan conflict and, or the possibility of China Taiwan open conflict. And her answer was hysterical. So we appreciate that the humorous component of this was covered. If you were to give aoc, if you were tutoring her on this issue, say, hey, here's what you should say. So you sound like you know what's really going on with China, Taiwan. What would be your 60 second or less answer to the question that she turned into? Yeah, like, I mean they have maps and stuff.

[Stephen Yates]

Well, it was mind blowing. And if I were her, I would not go to a security conference and try to do that. As a social media influencer, you better just do a 10 second search of Grok and probably I could have given better talking points. And I'd say you begin with the basics. Free people who are investing heavily in our country, we should be giving them the ability to defend themselves as much as humanly possible. And also let's hold up some accountability and transparency with China. At the very least, stand with an ally like Japan and let's see where we can go and avoid the conflict. I think she tried to get there, she couldn't land it. She borderline couldn't even speak. And I don't know why you go be a speaker at an international security conference not prepared for basic questions.

[Buck Sexton]

It is funny that you mentioned GROK because she has probably a staff of how many people do you think work for AOC? 50, 50, 100? I mean if you go across everywhere, I mean it's a huge number of people and see she could have just said hey, how do I answer a question on Taiwan, on grok? And it would have given her an infinitely better answer than whatever staff she had trying to prepare her for that event. Steve, we appreciate you. We may need you back on when. When or when war breaks out.

[Clay Travis]

He's gonna have to fix the war when it breaks out. So.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that's right. Thank you.

[Stephen Yates]

Thanks so much.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Pro-Trump Grandma]

Listen, the beautiful bill that's going to change crime in the district. If you kill somebody, okay, you take a life, you do life, just that simple. If you do a harsh crime, you do harsh time, just that simple. And then we need National Guard and which we did years ago. He brought it on. I love him. I don't want to hear nothing you got to say about that racist stuff. And don't be looking at me on the news hating on me because I'm standing up for somebody that deserves to be stand up for. Get off the man's back. Let him do his job. He's doing the right thing. Back up off of it. And grandma said it.

[Buck Sexton]

That is the grandma said it. A lot of you nodding along out there. That was yesterday in the White House as, as President Trump honor black history and actually spent a decent amount of time, I believe based on the clips that I saw also talking about the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who he got along with. Trump did quite well and, and issued a statement that I thought was very kind on the passing at 84 years old of Jesse Jackson. I one other good bit of news here as we finish the hour since I'm trying to look and make sure we got good news. 30 year mortgage rates are hitting 4 year lows today, Bob. I don't know how much attention it's going to get. They're still high, right at 6% on a 30 year. And I know many of you out There have got 3%, 3 and a half percent, 4% mortgages and so you're not going to be moving. But these mortgage rates coming down to an era before they started to skyrocket because of Joe Biden's inflation, it is hugely important to the American economy because we have to get more houses on the market, pricing will be more reasonable, all those things. So many people are not willing to move because of the mortgages that they have. We get them back down to 5%, it's going to make a tremendous difference. We could be moving in that direction at some time this year. But mortgage rates 30 years have hit a four year low worth mentioning for people out there as the spring shopping season for homes gets closer and closer. I think there may be a little bit more thawing because so many people are just not willing to move based on the 15 and 30 year mortgage rates that they got. I know a bunch of you are nodding along right now because you're saying, hey, I can sell my home, but I'm gonna have to pay way more in mortgage rates no matter where I move. And that is often true for a lot of people out there. So that is is worth mentioning. And, and as positive.

[Stephen Yates]

Very, very nice.

[Clay Travis]

Everyone can sleep soundly at night knowing that the mortgage rate has dropped some basis points here.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, we said a lot of positive thing about Buck's book which is surging the bestseller list. A VIP did find a typo Buck. And because this audience is more obsessed with grammar than anyone, he felt compelled to write in the book is excellent. But just letting you know that contact tracing was spelled contract tracing on page eight. Buck, how dare you.

[Clay Travis]

I that typo, I caught it when I was doing the audiobook of Manufacturing Delusion, which you should all go download if you have not already. Go get that audiobook. But Clay, when I was reading it, that one, that one hit me hard, man. That one was. That was the one type of the

[Buck Sexton]

toughest thing about doing an audiobook is you see things that you want to fix and it too late because they're off to the printer already.

[Clay Travis]

I have read, I read the manuscript, the final manuscript, 30 times through. I mean so many to the point where it was like a. Like I just my eyes were falling out of my head and I didn't catch that one. So that was the one typo that we weren't able to fix that I knew was there. But I promise, next edition, it'll be gone. Feeling overwhelmed by stress and uncertainty. You're not alone, and encouragement is closer than you think. @intouch.org, Dr. Charles Stanley's ministry provides powerful sermons, daily devotionals, and resources designed to strengthen your faith. It's more than information, it's transformation. Discover peace in the chaos, clarity in confusion, and practical wisdom for everyday life. Whether you're seeking hope, guidance, or simply a reminder of God's presence, InTouch.org is here for you. Visit today. You'll be glad you did.

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