The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – "Team 47: Trump '28?"

Date: November 2, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
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Overview

This episode dives into current political headlines, focusing on post-2024 Trumpism, the likelihood and potential of a "unity ticket" in 2028 with J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio, the consequences of the Trump administration's aggressive anti-drug strategy (including military action against Venezuela), and a unique segment on Trump's controversial White House ballroom expansion. Through their trademark blend of humor and political insight, Clay and Buck dissect the intrigue, drama, and substance of recent developments.

Main Discussion Topics & Insights

1. Trump 2028? The Case for a Vance-Rubio Unity Ticket

[02:45–04:33]

• Trump floats the idea of a powerful J.D. Vance/Marco Rubio ticket in 2028, suggesting unity and stability beyond his tenure.
  • Clay Travis expresses longing for a Trump run, noting the President’s age (79) but acknowledges the mounting buzz behind a Vance/Rubio continuation.
  • Clay: “I wish he could run again. I mean, I know he's 79, but he's not going to run. I wish he could. I do think the idea of a JD Marco ticket...is starting to get some momentum.” [03:18]
• Discussion centers on whether such a unity ticket could forestall GOP in-fighting and serve as a "Trump 3.0".
  • Buck Sexton tempers optimism: “A lot can happen in two and a half years, my friend.” [04:33]
  • Buck is wary of political predictions, referencing unexpected events like COVID: “In 2019...I was saying, guys, the country, things are great...And then, boom, few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in your apartment.” [05:13]

Memorable quote:

Buck: “This is the way we think the story should go. And that, to me, means it's unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.” [04:43]

2. Pandemic Life: Red State vs. Blue State Trauma

[05:17–06:27]

• Clay and Buck reminisce about the contrasts in pandemic experiences between New York City (strict lockdowns) and Franklin, TN (comparably relaxed measures).
  • Clay: “We didn't really do covet here in Franklin, Tennessee...it was kind of over.”
  • Buck: “New York turned into a prison camp with masking. It was insane.” [06:25]
• Clay jokes about Buck’s solitary TikTok dances and NYC’s pandemic stress.

3. Trump vs. "Low IQ Democrats": Cognitive Tests and Political Jabs

[06:27–10:41]

• Trump calls out Rep. Jasmine Crockett and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, challenging them to take cognitive tests, and disparages their intelligence.
  • Trump (via clip): “They have Jasmine Crockett, a low IQ person. They have AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have her pass…Let AOC go against Trump, let Jasmine go against Trump.” [07:05]
  • Describes cognitive tests with animal picture questions, lampooning his rivals’ intellects.
• Clay and Buck recognize Trump’s unique comedic style and media reactions.
  • Clay: “His comedic timing and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor...so many people who have Trump derangement syndrome...have an inability to process tone and context.” [09:16]
• Jasmine Crockett’s rebuttal is played; she accuses Trump of being out of touch and obsessed with women of color.
  • Crockett: “He is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are low...I am not worried about that. And I wish people would look at the fact that you have a President...who consistently is obsessing over two women of color that are members of the House.” [09:56]

Hosts’ assessment:

• Both hosts voice disappointment in the general intellectual quality of congressional representatives, not only Crockett.
  • Clay: “There are a lot of people who represent us in Congress and in the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.” [10:41]

4. Trump’s War on Fentanyl and Military Escalation: Venezuela in the Crosshairs

[15:10–32:33]

• Buck and Clay discuss the Trump administration’s unprecedented use of force to combat fentanyl trafficking, including (controversial) kinetic military actions targeting drug boats and—potentially—direct strikes inside Venezuela.
  • Buck: “Fentanyl is far more dangerous, far more addictive and far more dangerous…They’re poisoning people and it's a lethal issue. And we're responding with lethal force.” [15:47]
  • Marco Rubio (audio): “If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up, stop sending drugs to the United States.” [16:21]
• Buck frames this as both necessary and effective, explaining the rationale for executive military actions in countries where the US is not officially at war, comparing it to counterterrorism policy (e.g., strikes in Pakistan, Yemen).
  • Buck: “No stupid wars under Trump has not meant no military action against our enemies. These are different things.” [29:08]
• Strategic context: Venezuela is characterized as a failing narco-state, its regime weakened by socialism—setting the stage for US intervention.
  • Buck: “Venezuela has larger proven oil reserves than Saudi Arabia…But people took over who said, your life...will be great if you just put us, the left wing radical socialists in charge. Now…it’s a mess.” [30:48]
• Raises broader questions about regime change, US foreign policy, and the cycle of socialist dictatorships in Latin America.

Notable Quote:

Buck: “Trump going after it…feels a little bit like life imitating art here because I think this is where we're going, where we're going to have…military action to bring down a narco regime in South America.” [31:27]

5. Trump’s White House Ballroom: From Controversy to Consensus

[36:35–48:46]

• Recent expansion of the White House via a new ballroom designed by Trump draws ire from critics, but both hosts and even political opponents quietly admit it’s a sensible, overdue improvement.
  • Buck (reading WaPo editorial): “In classic Trump fashion, the president is pursuing a reasonable idea in the most jarring manner possible...It is absurd that tents need to be erected on the South Lawn for state dinners…Trump says the ballroom…will accommodate 999 guests. The next Democratic President will be happy to have this.”
  • Editorial board concedes that normal review would have delayed or killed the project.
• Clay explains how Trump, as a builder, has advocated for such a ballroom for years, even offering his services to Obama.
  • Clay: “This is something that he's been obsessed with now for 15 years...Trump is making decisions to a large extent for things that he will never benefit for personally because he thinks it's better for the country.” [41:00]
  • Compares Trump’s “builder’s perspective” to planting trees that benefit future generations.
• The hosts mock Democrats’ knee-jerk opposition to anything Trump does, highlighting Rep. Swalwell’s call to “take a wrecking ball to the Trump Ballroom on day one.”
  • Clay: “This is an incredible gift that Trump is giving to the country. And again, every president for the rest of our lives will be able to use it, no matter what political party they're in…” [46:05]
  • Buck: “Maybe, just maybe they should grow up and pick and choose their battles and say, hmm, nice. The guy who's famous for building incredible towers...maybe he knows what he's doing on this one.” [47:20]
• Broader point: Many things Trump has done have been attacked reflexively, only to be lauded years later.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Clay Travis:
  • “I wish he could run again. I mean, I know he's 79, but he's not going to run. ...Let's not have all the drama of this huge fight. Let's just keep things rolling.” [03:18]
• Buck Sexton:
  • "A lot can happen in two and a half years, my friend." [04:33]
  • “In 2019...I was saying, guys, the country, things are great...And then, boom, few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in your apartment.” [05:13]
  • “Fentanyl is different…It’s very easy to overdose…and we're responding with lethal force.” [15:47]
  • “No stupid wars under Trump has not meant no military action against our enemies. These are different things.” [29:08]
  • “Trump going after it…feels a little bit like life imitating art here because I think this is where we're going, where we're going to have…military action to bring down a narco regime in South America.” [31:27]
• J.D. Vance (playing Trump):
  • “They have Jasmine Crockett, a low IQ person. They have AOC's low IQ...Let AOC go against Trump. Let Jasmine go against Trump.” [07:05]
• Jasmine Crockett:
  • "I am not worried about that. And I wish people would look at the fact that you have a President...who consistently is obsessing over two women of color that are members of the House." [09:56]

Key Timestamps

• [02:45] – Trump hints at a Vance/Rubio 2028 ticket
• [05:13] – Pandemic retrospectives—blue vs. red state experiences
• [07:05] – Trump mocks Crockett and AOC's intelligence
• [09:56] – Jasmine Crockett responds to Trump
• [15:10] – Discussion of anti-fentanyl strategy and military escalation
• [16:21] – Marco Rubio defends blowing up drug boats
• [29:08+ ] – In-depth analysis of Venezuela’s collapse and U.S. policy
• [36:35] – White House ballroom controversy, bipartisan acceptance
• [41:00] – Trump’s “builder’s legacy” approach explained
• [46:05] – Clay on the ballroom as a gift to all future presidents

Tone and Style

• The episode blends policy analysis, partisan critique, humor, and storytelling.
• Clay and Buck bring a conversational, irreverent style—poking fun at both political opponents and themselves, while not shying away from strong conservative perspectives.

Takeaways

• Post-Trump Republican future: A Vance-Rubio ticket could offer unity and continuity, though the hosts are realistic about unpredictability.
• Fentanyl crisis: Trump administration's military-response to foreign drug trafficking is controversial but has broad support among the hosts and, they argue, the public.
• Trump’s legacy-building: The White House ballroom saga is used as a microcosm of “Trump derangement syndrome” and ultimate bipartisan acceptance of sensible policy.
• Media and political reflexes: The show critiques the automatic opposition to Trump’s initiatives, noting history ultimately often vindicates his proposals.

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