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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Asma Khalid
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Clay Travis
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Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now. All of the jobs data was cooked and it was cooked in favor of Joe Biden for much of the last year. They just came out and announced actually there were 911,000 future fewer jobs created beginning in March of 24. I believe it was all the way up to March of 25. This matters because I think they were cooking the books to try to make the economy look better for Joe Biden when they thought that he was going to be running and he was going to say, look at how many jobs I've created. Basically cuts in half the number of jobs that were created and gives you guys and all of us a sense that the economy was not actually firing on all cylinders. When Trump came into office in late January of 2025, he was actually dealing with a very anemic overall job picture. And it's evidence yet again that Jerome Powell, the head of the Fed, has been too late to act. Now there's expected to be a rate cut next month. There are expected to be multiple rate cuts between now and the end of the year. But Buck, this is your lion eyes weren't lying to you when you were looking around in November and saying, boy, it really doesn't feel like this Biden economy is actually going that well.
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Buck Sexton
Isn't it amazing how much they hid from the public about Biden really, when you add it all together. We talk a lot about the dementia and the, the too old to do the job thing, but he had really the last gasp, I think Clay of the legacy media running constant interference for him. And it even still wasn't enough. Right? They went all in on Biden, all in on the Biden economy, all in on Biden's doing a great job, you know, heck of a job, Biden, and yet Trump came in, destroyed him in a debate and then Kamala was their last minute, last hope. It just goes to show you, I don't think the media, the old media, legacy media, whatever you want to call them, they're never recovering, it's never coming back. I think that Biden was their last gasp of being able to direct national elections at some level, to be able to, you know, cause a few percentage points to Go in one direction or another. And the economy, the Biden economy is just another example of the kind of favoritism that they were always playing.
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Clay Travis
You're listening to Team 47 with clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
There's anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something, Clay, we haven't talked about. Honestly. I think we got a lot of things to talk about here. So I'm not going to say we haven't discussed it enough, but we certainly could spend even more time on housing affordability in this country. Is, is crazy right now. You have to make double the money to be able to afford based on rates and based on the cost of buying a new home in general. Double the money. You did what in 2019, 2020. It hasn't, it hasn't been that long. Pre pandemic versus now and the median home prices nation. I'm talking nationwide, whether you live in Oklahoma or Maine or Arizona or California, whatever. Nationwide, home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable and there's a lot of people priced out of the market. So we got big problems there. Good things though are happening in the economy. And let's talk first about where wholesale prices are. Here we go. CNBC's Rick Santelli. Clay talking about where inflation is. Where prices are. Play Clip 1 PPI. Wholesale inflation for August expected to be up 3 10. No, no, no. Down 110 of a percent. Down 1 10. Wow. That would be the first negative number since April of this year when it was -2, 2 10. If you strip out food and energy. We're also expecting up 3 10. It's minus 110 as well. Minus 110 the same last time we had a minus number was April and we're comping to minus 2. 10 in April. Now the year over year, in my opinion, these are the most important and boy, I'm surprised. Real progress here. 2.6 on year over year headline. We are expecting 3.3 in the rearview mirror. 3.3. 2.6 would be the lowest since it was 2.4 in June. Clay, this is where the American people start chanting slowly but surely, rate cut, rate cut, rate cut.
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Clay Travis
Well, they should cut 50 basis points. And I'm looking as you're telling us all this, Buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates because this is the number one thing that I believe is broken in our economy, that Biden tanked and I'll explain it why in a minute. But according to the numbers that I'm looking up right now, 30 year mortgage is now around 6.4. To 6.5%. A 15 year is around 5.6. Now that's just me doing rapid search. So I don't want to get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities. They're coming down and this is really important. And I don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly what happened, but many of you are living it. We went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives from 2.5% mortgage rates on a 30 year to over well over 7%, approaching 8% in the space of about a year. And that is because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck, when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory. And then we went all the way, I believe In June of 21, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it was June of 22 to 9.1% inflation, which.
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Buck Sexton
Was worst in 40 years. 40 years.
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Clay Travis
And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that it happened so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when it came to buying or selling homes. And the number one thing that would solve a lot of the issues in the country today, and a lot of you out there nodding along with me, is if mortgage rates came back to a reasonable level where people who are ready to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to give up a 2 1/2% mortgage and take on a 9% mortgage or an 8% mortgage. It's, it's absolutely bonkers for you to do that. And a lot of people got priced out because if you didn't happen to get that 2 and a half or 3% mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market because other people did. Now the result is I think we're going to get at least a 25 basis point cut next week, should be a 50 point basis cut, and I think we should have a 1 point overall cut in interest rates before the end of the year. And that will help to solve some of the log jam in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest issue hamstringing a lot of people.
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Buck Sexton
Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many of you that, that's, that are telling us, hey guys, prices are still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it. We know that is the reality of what happened during the pandemic. Which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars. And then Biden printing the 2 trillion right when he came into office, just adding gasoline to a fire that was already raging. There is no free lunch. We printed money without the attendant productivity behind it or the goods and services behind it. We had rampant inflation. So we've been paying for that, literally paying for that with high prices. But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's not, it's not that we're unaware or anything else, it's that this takes time. But the data is moving all of this in the right direction. Side note, Clay, it is still astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier in the week, but I was reading a more detailed analysis of it this morning. That is crazy. Put a pin in that, though. Wells Fargo CEO, somebody who has to look at the macroeconomics of what's going on and has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and all these different things. Wells Fargo is a massive bank. I just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know, not necessarily a guy walking around in a MAGA hat. I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking about where the economy is play too. In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend continues at the same year over year pace across almost all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape. We look at signs for any kind of change and you just don't see it. Having said that, there is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income consumers, which continues and is a real issue. And when you look at just the overall data in terms of jobs, it's undeniable in terms of just job creation. So, yeah, things are actually feel very good today, certainly relative to what you think they could be. Things feel very good today. I mean, look, nothing's ever perfect with the economy, Clay. It could always be better. But here we are in September of Trump's first year. It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing that I think is important. Prices are never coming back down and I think that is so challenging because people are angry when they go to the grocery store, when they go to fast food. Inflation is so toxic because basically once the prices are there, they never come back down. And I don't think a lot of people recognize that necessarily because to your point, Buck, we had two generations where effectively we didn't have Biden era inflation, where we didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation. And a lot of you who lived through the 1970s that are listening to us right now, you said, yeah, we dealt with this for a long time. Inflation rates got all the way up, I think to like 17% if I'm not mistaken. Mortgage rates did. I mean, it's crazy. When you go back and look at some of the historical economic data on.
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Buck Sexton
This, you also used to be able to get a return on a savings account, I think in the teens, in the 80s at one point, right? Or maybe it was 9, 10, 11. I mean, there were times when you could put money. Now there was much higher inflation, but you could put money in a savings account backed by the government and get a return. We've been in an era now for years, maybe decades where to get return on your money. Essentially most people end up putting it in the market in some capacity because otherwise your money is being inflated away all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing because not only does it raise prices, but it turns out to be that a tax on wage earners because they don't have the attendant assets that get inflated, like home prices along with it. And if their wages don't keep up, you just have less buying power, which you feel when you are paying your rent, buying your groceries, filling up the gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right? Or it takes longer to feel that than it does the initial. Let's just pay everybody to stay home and then spend trillions of dollars under Biden that we should never have spent totally.
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Clay Travis
And remember, Biden wanted to spend 5 trillion and Joe Manchin said, I can't go above 1.9. So things would have actually been dou digit inflation if Biden had gotten what he wanted. But the anger, I get it. You're never going to be able to buy a hamburger for the price that you did before COVID That's never going to occur. Your cereal is never going to be the price that it was before COVID Those prices are now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures. And I think some people believed, oh, prices are going to just go back to what they were in 2019. And when you don't see it in your grocery bill, that is frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic. This is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now some Places, prices fluctuate more. Price of gas, for instance, you are definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows and what it costs to fill up the tank. But the price on gas is far more of a fluctuating factor than the price on groceries or the price on fast food. Which is where I think a lot of people still, and I'm in this camp, just are, are frustrated every time you get a bill because things cost way more than you think they should cost. And that is a function of poor economic decisions to your point, buck, that were led by the Biden administration.
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Buck Sexton
I tell you, and I'm not even, not even talking about our wonderful sponsor, Good Ranchers, although I am making one of their steaks tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw that in there. So I guess I am talking about them. You go out to a restaurant these days and you get a steak, and whether it's a good steak, a mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now I know it's Miami and you're going to say it's expensive. We're going to be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you, if we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay Filet is like 65, 70 bucks these days. For one. For one. I mean, I remember you used to go have a steak dinner for $70. I know I sound like some guy from, you know, from the olden, olden days or something, but the price, food prices, they can't hide from you. And at a restaurant because they have to add in all the attendant costs of labor and tax and everything else, you can see what they have to run up in order to run a business. I mean, you cannot get a filet in a, in a, in a metro area of the United States. Right now, you can't get like a decent steak for less than 60 bucks. Really. I mean, it's very hard to find.
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Clay Travis
It is. Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your point, on the filet, we go to a restaurant. I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right, not far from where we live, called the Chop House. Not a super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They didn't know they were going to get a shout out. My son ordered a filet, a steak the other day. We went to go eat there and the waiter came over and he said, hey, I just want to let you know this is the most affordable place, like I can think of where you can go sit down. He said, the cost on our filet is now over $40. We've had to keep changing. That's not even included in the menu now. And I think a lot of you have probably experienced that. Where you go, I'm not talking about.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, how, how many ounces are we talking to? Are we talking 8 ounce filet? Look, I, I take my meat very seriously. We talk an 8 ounce, 10 ounce filet. I mean, I put away an 8 ounce filet pretty easily.
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Clay Travis
We're not talking about the place where you had to buy me the fancy steak and you know, still paying that off.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, you want to talk about mortgage rates? That's where all my money's gone after.
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Clay Travis
Biden dropped out of the race. We're not talking about this. This is a great, really local establishment. But I do think that many of you feel this when you go in. The other thing that's happened is, and this is me being a kind of looking at the data, the difference between fast food and like casual sit down restaurant prices has almost vanished. Like you can't eat affordably at fast food anymore.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I order Shake Shack here with Carrie sometimes and it's 50 bucks. I don't, I'm just getting two burgers and some fries. She always says, don't get the fries. By the way, to all the, all the husbands out there, obviously we get the fries. You know what I mean? Like they said, don't get the fries. You get the fries and they're happy. You got the fry when they're there. When those hot fries, fries show up. No one's ever upset that you got them. But people will tell you, don't ever. And even when you're out at a restaurant, Clay, important rule. Whenever someone says, oh, we don't need.
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Clay Travis
The fries, yes, you do always get the fries. You always get the fries.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval, it's also a symptom of disruption. That's happening everywhere.
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Asma Khalid
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Clay Travis
Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global story.
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Asma Khalid
Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck. It has been a heck of a draining, emotional week for so many of us across the nation. So many of you want to weigh in. And so for the next couple of hours, legitimately full open forums, talk backs, calls, we are going to get as many of you in as we can as we roll into the weekend. Point worth discussing. And I was just joking about this off air because I do think we need a little bit of levity in what has been a very dark week. President Trump woke up this morning after going to the Yankee game last night and just rode his motorcade over to the fox Studios on 6th Avenue and sat down on the Fox and Friends couch and did an hour of live, unscripted television on all subjects under the sun, including announcing that we had the, the assassin of Charlie Kirk in custody. And we just came from a president that basically could never do any media availabilities on any subject. And Trump just rolled in, sat down on the couch, a couch that I've sat on, and guest hosted Fox and Friends on the weekend and did an hour straight of unscripted television, Buck. And it wasn't very long ago, about 10 days ago, that everybody decided because he took a weekend off from doing media, that he was actually dead. And so I do think a big part of this larger discussion needs to be how many people out there consume audience, consume media that is consistently wrong about everything. And yet they keep going back to it over and over and over again in desperate demand for at some point their fever dreams of delusion to be certified. And I do think that factors in here. And one thing, Buck, as we get ready to take, as we get ready to take some calls here and take some of your talkbacks, and I want all of you to think about this, Buck has got a book out. Honestly, these are both very timely books where he tries to get into tell.
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Buck Sexton
Us the name Manufacturing Delusion, how the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda against you. I just wanted to be manufacturing delusion, but subtitles apparently are helpful.
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Clay Travis
And my book, and that's a very august title, my book is called Balls. And it's about how Trump, young men and, and sports fans saved America. Okay. But I do think that These are two different sides of the same coin, much like this assassin is. If you compare his life to Charlie Kirk's. And let me. Let me just kind of run through a little bit here, I feel immense sadness for so many young men in America because they're. For much of history, whatever you thought of politics, there was a consistent expectation for men. You got married, you busted your ass in a job, you had a job to try to take care of your family and provide a better life for them going forward.
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Buck Sexton
You might have to go to war.
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Clay Travis
If you look generationally, you may have to go fight no one to get killed. We had an experience and expectation of manhood that was universally accepted across the political spectrum. Whatever you think in 1945, a Democrat and a Republican represented, by and large, there was an understanding of what manhood was and what it represented. I think so many young men, in the wake of the MeToo and in the toxic universe of this woke culture that has tried to say manhood itself is toxic. The absence and continued decline of religion, which helped to frankly, allow the foundational elements of the family, the nuclear family, manhood. I think there is a desperate yearning for meaning, and I think Charlie Kirk found it. Whatever you think about him. I think he found a foundational, core tenet of life that led him in a productive way to get married, to have two kids, to try to communicate to these lost young men a pathway to what he thought would be a better life for them.
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Buck Sexton
Well, one thing that. Sorry, yes, one thing I was going to say, Clay, that is so important, when you look at the competing narratives here about Charlie, there's our narrative, which is rooted in reality of a man who did it the right way, was an inspiration, was kind, reliable, a father. All the things that we have said. So you know how we feel about Charlie. But what you'll hear from a lot of people on the left who, of course, don't know Charlie, and this is always another thing. You know, I know this a little bit of a digression. I know a lot of people in media on the right, and I know a lot of people are meeting the left, and the people on the right are almost always better people. I'm just telling you the truth, okay? I mean, as people, I'm not talking about their talent, I'm not talking about their paycheck or, you know, their ratings or whatever, but, you know, as humans, you. You know, I was going to tell you, you listen to this radio show, you listen to some of our peers and radio and some of the people That I won't name them. You know who they are. If they were your neighbor, you'd be blessed. If you had to leave your kids with them, you'd, you'd know that, you know, because you had an emergency, you'd know that they'd be fine. You know, you'd, they'd probably get a home cooked meal by the time you got home. Like they're good people, okay? They're at their core good people. There are a lot of leftists who are truly lost and nasty human beings, I'll just put it that way. A lot of leftists. And this is true of the politicians as well. And you see this and you're aware of this perception. There is a difference in the view of life. But Clay, we know who Charlie was. They keep saying Charlie. The other side says that he was put, including unfortunately this horrific assassin, that Charlie was spewing hate speech. But what you see actually when you look at what Charlie said and beyond that, look at how his followers act, they act with love and within the law and with consideration and with kindness. And yet the people that think on the other side that they're doing some great favor to society by being violent, not just in this incident, but in many incidents like it, Antifa and all these others, they think that they are stopping hate speech. And they never stop to think that they're the hateful ones, that they are the ones who are saying, your words upset me so I will attack you, I will punch you, I will even kill you. Who's the one spreading hate? What, what is the hate that Charlie spreads? And by the way, I would, I would just add a lot of this comes back to the trans stuff. That's really where if you push somebody who says that, that the right is spewing hate speech, Clay, it's overwhelmingly just a version of saying you are erasing trans people. You are, you know, these things go, go together all the time. But I think when you, if you're talking about hate, which is the side that is hateful, I think it couldn't be more clear.
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Clay Travis
100% agree with all of that. Charlie found his life purpose. He got married, he had kids. This 22 year old was looking for his life's purpose and he found his life's purpose to be killing Charlie. Kirk, how does that happen? Your book is partly addressing it. I think it speaks to again, the 27 year law enforcement veteran dad had to turn his son that I would bet this dad poured his heart and soul into trying to raise as an uplifting Successful part of the community. I don't know very many parents who do anything else. Now you might fail and we might find out that there's something in the background of this kid that was not ideal, that helped to put him on this awful path. But you have two young men. One finds his path and is trying to extend a hand to everyone else to say, hey, this path works for me. I think it could work for you too. And so many young men, in seeing Charlie's path, see a path for themselves as well. And then you have this 22 year old who by all intents and purposes appears buck to have been normal for much of his life. And he gets radicalized to such an extent somewhere that he's writing anti pro fascist and or anti fascist, anti fascist and anti anti Nazi comments on bullets that he uses to incredibly detailed plan the assassination of Charlie Kirk. How does that happen? How do they go in different pathways?
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Buck Sexton
And I. So in the book Clay, I get into these. I get into brainwashing, I get into a process called menticide, I get into Pavlovian conditioning, I get into isolation and how that is used as a tool in this, I get into fear as a tool, a tool of ideological coercion. Right. I mean, these are all different things. I mean, and again, the book's not even out till January. But it's just, this is what my. I've been looking at this because a lot of it was driven by Covid, but I get into the trans thing as well and how people who aren't trans themselves will threaten to kill people or will kill people even because they have the wrong idea about trans in, you know, quote unquote wrong idea that how does someone get to that point? You know, how is someone so deluded? And this is a huge problem in our society because these ideas can grow and can take root to the point where they can actually cause a societal upheaval. I mean, you saw this in the Russian Revolution and the Soviets and you saw this in North Korea. And I get into some of this where actually the crazy ideas are the mandatory ideas. And the Democrat Party has had some instances where they have shown us this. Covid was one of the most. It was probably the most powerful instance of it. But also the same thing with men don't have an advantage over women in sports and other ideas like this. Right. You get into all of this, but it is a process of radicalization. And there is something that we have to look at here and understand much more, much more deeply and in a much more cohesive way. How do we get people off this path? It's a little bit like getting them out of a cult. It's a little bit like removing them from an ideological ecosystem that is self reinforcing and actually deteriorating throughout that process. Because as you say this, what about this young man in his past, in his background would make you think that this would. But I've gone through this, Clay, with people that were preparing to strap a suicide vest on and go into the New York City subway system or were planning to buy AK47s and grenades to go shoot up a, you know, a Jewish temple in one of the suburbs of New York. I mean, these people are not leading up to this point. They aren't necessarily from abusive homes. They're not impoverished. You know, there hasn't been some. But the ideas and the idea loop grows. And there are those who are able to manipulate in this way. There are those who are able to manufacture these killers through this process. And we need to take this, I mean, we're already taking it seriously, but we need to understand that there's a tremendous urgency in this country to figure out how we handle this because it's going to keep happening and it does not have to happen. There are places where this does not happen. Our country is a place where this sort of thing is happening right now. And that means that there are underlying and foundational issues to be addressed. And I think that a big part of it is just holding, holding the Democrat party and the Democrat aligned media accountable for what they say. When you call someone a fascist and you mean it, you are saying that person is a threat to everyone else, a threat to all that is good and violence against them is justified. China is a communist country. If I call someone a communist, am I saying we have to go, we have to go murder a billion Chinese people? No, of course not. It's referring to it as an ideology. But when you call someone a fascist, there's no fascist country out there right now. Clay, when you say fascist or Nazi, you are resurrecting something from the past to justify violence today.
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Clay Travis
Jasmine Crockett's building on this just called Trump Hitler today again on Charlemagne, the God show. And I think when you specifically analogize Trump to Adolf Hitler, building on what you are saying, Buck, you are directly saying, go kill him. Because we have. I mean, this was kind of a silly debate that used to go on, but before the Trump baby, baby Hitler and the morality of it, kill baby Hitler was kind of a ridiculous sit around the coffee table or While you're having a beer debate. And when you call someone who is full grown Hitler, you are telling people, go kill him. Which is why you can't say that and then try to immediately condemn. I would have more respect for Democrats if, after they tried to kill Trump, if somebody had come out and said, I wish we had better aim, because at least it would be consistent in the argument. You can't condemn violence after inciting it.
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Buck Sexton
We already know there are lines. If you just called every if as a, if as a group, right. You just called everyone who disagree with you politically, you just started asserting that they were child molesters, we would know. That's defamation, that's wrong, that's unethical. You're trying to say that this person is the worst kind of human being imaginable, the most vile, the most, the most, you know, lacking in decency imaginable. We would understand, right? Everybody would know. If you just go around saying, oh, you're running against me for this office, you're a child molester, everybody would know that. That is crossing a clear. You know, that you're saying this to defame someone. Crossing a clear line, which, of course, they've said all kinds of things about Trump. You don't have to. They've said he's a rapist, They've said everything. But, yeah, with this. To call someone a Nazi isn't crossing a line. To say that you are truly a fascist who's going to end the republic and therefore our country is going to collapse, that is crossing the line.
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Clay Travis
There will not be elections again, which is what they have argued for years now, a decade, that Trump is a dictator who will remember because it was, it was very.
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Buck Sexton
We got to go to break and we want to take your calls here, so we'll get to it. But when I did that Bill Maher appearance, and it was when the Democrats, I was there to tell them what was coming. And I did, and it did happen that way. But I remember I looked at Bill Maher. I think it might have been in the post show video they do. I said, I mean, you know that it's gonna be okay if Trump wins, right? He's going to win and everything's going to be fine. And he looked me right, and he goes, I absolutely do not know that I think the country might end well. That's insane. You have a problem. You should go seek counseling. Speak to your priest. Well, not for Bill Maher. Speak to your therapist. Speak to whomever.
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