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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now. Trump in the Oval Office. President of South Korea scheduled to visit with him. And this is what Trump said just a few moments ago about the crime situation in Washington, D.C. this is cut three.
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Donald Trump
Everybody before me is happy what I'm doing. Most of you won't say that because you're radical left. The newspapers are so dishonest. The press is totally dishonest. But that's all right. We've gotten used to it, and we wanted a landslide, so they obviously lost their power. I mean, it's impossible to imagine that when you get 97% negative stories, purposely negative stories, even though you've done 97% positive things, that they could. That you could win an election in a landslide. Winning all seven. Think of it. All seven swing states winning by the popular vote, by millions of votes. We had a fantastic. The best this year. Districts out of 3,000 districts, I guess we won 3,500. We won 2,750, and they won 500. And that's, to me, the best of all.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Buck. It's becoming, I think, increasingly difficult to argue that the surge of support for National Guard and D.C. police and everything else isn't having an impact. I don't think it's totally arbitrary that we've gone 11 or 12 days without a murder in the summer, something they can't find a record of in D.C. going back decades. Obviously, crime tends to skyrocket in the summer. Weather's good, people have more free time, kids are out of school. All of that is when typical violence is at its peak all over the nation. Kind of feels like Trump may well have made his point in D.C. and I love the idea of going into Chicago, Baltimore, other cities with high crime rates and trying to see, hey, can we save some more lives?
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Buck Sexton
The streak continues in D.C. the harder it is for those opposed to this to continue to oppose it without looking like they're pro murder, pro crime. There have been a lot of people, I think, who in the media have been chastened already by their response. They completely misunderstand the mood of the American people. We went through this phase, we went through the Soros da BLM era, and we've decided enough is enough. And by we, I mean a solid majority of all of the American people. And that is, I think, something that Democrats haven't figured out how to handle politically. What do they do? Because to turn around and face reality is to say that Republicans have been right all along to turn around and to accept that the policies that we've been advocating for for years not only would result in better numbers for crime, better streets, better businesses, all that fewer dead people, something that everybody, as we've discussed, should be able to get behind and feel very pleased about. But I think Democrats continue to have this problem, and they can't escape the radical left. They can't escape the loud voices that were directing policy in their party for years. And now here we are. Here is Brandon Johnson, the mayor. You mentioned Chicago, how that could be. Next. Here is the mayor of Chicago. This is cut 8. Play it.
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Brandon Johnson
What he is proposing at this point would be the most flagrant violation of our constitution in the 21st century. The city of Chicago does not need a military occupation. That's not what we need. In fact, we've been very clear about what we need. We need to invest in people to ensure that we can build safe and affordable communities.
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Buck Sexton
That's just. He's just promising more communism and really more communism rooted in race instead of class. Invest in people. Yeah. Tax the people who are productive and earn more. Squander that money on useless government programs that do nothing for really anybody when it comes to crime and more of the same. And so you have to ask yourself, if you live in a place like Chicago clay, that had 621 murders in 2023, do you want more of the same? That's what the mayor is offering.
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Clay Travis
I think it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend the status quo. And I give President Trump a lot of credit for changing the narrative here because it's been fairly easy for presidents to go into the White House and just pretend that Washington, D.C. is all fine and dandy around them, even though the violent crime rate has been extraordinarily high. Uh, and Trump has already weighed in on the mayor of Chicago, Remember, Maybe it's bumped up a bit since then. The mayor of Chicago had a 6% approval rating in the city of Chicago. I want to repeat that. Six as in five plus one. I've never seen a mayoral approval rating that low. Everyone hates this guy.
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Buck Sexton
Right?
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Clay Travis
The job he's done.
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Buck Sexton
If we put my name on the. Do you think that Mayor Sexton is doing a good job for. I think enough people would just be confused by the question that I would get more than 6% by Chicago residents.
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Clay Travis
I mean, it's almost impossible to get 6% of people approving of a political official that low, even with there being a Ton of people who've done awful jobs. Here is Trump on Brandon Johnson. Remember, Chicago actually managed to get worse. They had Lori Lightfoot, who was among the worst mayors in the history of the COVID era, and they doubled down with awful.
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Buck Sexton
They really did.
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Clay Travis
She lost. She lost in the primary to this guy. Here is, here is President Trump discussing that cut 4.
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Donald Trump
I watched as a very incompetent mayor from Chicago said, well, what do they know? They only arrested nine people. I said, nine people. We didn't arrest nine people. We actually arrested a total of well over a thousand people. We took hundreds of guns away from young kids that were throwing them around like it was candy. We apprehended scores of illegal aliens. We seized dozens of illegal firearms. There have been zero murders. It sounds sort of terrible to say it's embarrassing. I did this over the weekend. I'm making a speech and I acted like I was so proud. As I said, we've had zero murders in the last week. And some of these people were from foreign countries. They said, that doesn't sound so good. And I said, well, doesn't sound good. But Washington was the most dangerous place in this country. And now, you know what? It's probably the safest place in our country.
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Clay Travis
I mean, it is pretty extraordinary. And I get it, data sets can be somewhat arbitrary. But I think it's really hard as we sit at 11 or 12 days, coming up on two weeks, coming through weekends when violence tends to peak because people are out in the streets more. I think it's really hard to argue that this lower rate of violent crime is, is not directly connected to what Trump has done every day where the crime stays down. It becomes harder as you get a larger data set.
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Buck Sexton
I also think we should look to our distant south a little bit here and give credit where it is due. The President of El Salvador, Nayeb Bukele, ran the experiment in the most stark, obvious possible terms. El Salvador was a top five. And in one year, I think it clave was per capita number one. Per capita number one or number two? Murder capital as a nation of the world.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
For, you know, this doesn't include civil wars, obviously, or war. Right. This is criminal homicides inside of the borders of a country that's still functioning as a country, but it was pretty much the murder capital of the world, more or less. Now it's the safest country in Latin America. The safest country in all of Latin America. And he did this in a matter of years. What happened? What was the miracle? He said, you know, what? We know who the bad people are, and we're just going to stop allowing them to do bad things and we're going to punish them and we're going to take them out of broader society, full stop. And look what he did. The biggest, from the worst to the best in all of Latin America. And now we look at our American cities and we see places. You know, we just talked about Chicago. What did I say? 600 murders in 20, 23. 50% more murders than New York City, which has four times the people. So 50% more homicides, one fourth of the population. That's okay. The Chicago, the Chicago political establishment thinks that that's an acceptable situation.
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Clay Travis
My, my home state, El Salvador, no doubt. My home state of Memphis, the city here, in my home state, had more murders than New York City. Think about how crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Straight up, right? Head to head comparison.
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Clay Travis
Head to head, head to head, in recent years, Memphis, Tennessee had more murders than New York City. How is that acceptable? Again, I've said, if I were governor, I would follow the lead of Trump. I would send in the state National Guard, I would make this end. And I think, what did I say when we started this? That it was an interesting test case. And we talked about this buck. We said, if it works, it's going to prove that there just hasn't been the will to drive down violent crime. And now that the violent crime is going down and you're using Washington, D.C. as a test case, this is where I got attacked for saying, hey, this is a really good opportunity to see if it works. And if it does, it should spread. And I never thought that I would get attacked in the media for saying, hey, let's drive down the murder rate, let's save more lives. I did. But Trump is actually just saying, I'm not gonna stand for this. And I do think it's connected to the 250th anniversary of Washington, D.C. but more than that, I think Trump wants D.C. to be a jewel of America. I saw where he's going to ask for more money to basically retrofit and rehabilitate many of the great parks in D.C. to make it a true diamond of American life. And so how do you fight this?
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Buck Sexton
D.C. as a place, as a location, maybe not so much in the summertime, is a beautiful place. And there should be something aspirational. When children from Oklahoma and Washington state and, you know, and Illinois and, you name it, Southern California, when they go to D.C. on that school trip, which I know so many of you, everyone should think, wow, what an incredible jewel of a city with so much history and gorgeous architecture and clean, safe streets. This stuff matters. This stuff matters and I think that Trump is I love this. I think this is a fantastic idea and I hope that he continues this.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Carol Markowitz
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Clay Travis
You're listening to team 47 with Clay and Buck. I do think there is a story that is becoming pretty intriguing, and it is Joe Scarborough, probably, and potentially still smarting from the public humiliation that he suffered because he said that Joe Biden 2024 was just as good of a Biden as he had ever seen. In fact, the best version of Biden. And after the June 27th debate, I think Joe Scarborough was embarrassed on a level that it's hard to be embarrassed in public prognostication. And I think he has decided a bit to go to war with the die hard NBC view MSNBC viewing audience. Remember, he and Mika initially were very favorable with Trump. Then that relationship turned negative. Then they went and kissed the ring after Trump won reelection, which led many of the people in the MSNBC audience to be furious. The MSNBC audience has not been galvanized this time by the Trump administration. In fact, audience ratings have continued to be weak and to frankly collapse. And maybe that has emboldened Joe Scarborough to actually start being a journalist. Because, Buck, you shared this this morning. I went and watched and I got to give Joe Scarborough credit. He had on Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. And let's set the table here. I think brilliantly in the summer months here, Trump has changed the agenda from, from basically tariffs and worrying about the economy because we're at record stock market highs. And he has said we're going to go to war with violent crime. And D.C. was the first place that he decided to bring out the National Guard. I believe we are now, and correct me if I'm wrong, team, I think we're at either day 12 or day 13 without a murder in D.C. overall, crime rates have fallen precipitously. And now Trump is talking about bringing the National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore and other American cities that he believes have four far too high of a crime rate. And Joe Scarborough asked Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson this morning on MSNBC a very simple question. Would having more police officers make the city of Chicago safer? And I want to play, I'm going to call for each of these in succession. I want to play you, the mayor of Chicago, refusing to answer if more police officers would make the city safer. Here is part one.
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Joe Scarborough
Would you also like to get federal funding to help put 5,000 more cops on the street in Chicago? Would that help drive down crime?
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Brandon Johnson
Well, look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.
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Joe Scarborough
I understand you've talked about the other things you want. And I said those are good and important programs. But I'm asking also, would 5,000 more police officers on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along with all of those social programs that a lot of cities are engaging in and having success with?
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Brandon Johnson
Look, here's the best way I can put it, Joe, is that in the 90s, when I was in high school, we had 3,000 more police officers and we had 900 people being murdered every single year in Chicago. It's just not policing alone.
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Clay Travis
Okay? This continues.
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Buck Sexton
You know, the way we set this up is would more cops be helpful? Joe Scarborough is actually conceding as part of his questioning here, he says, if we give you all the money you want for your violence Interrupters, for your. Your, you know, community organizers, for your. All these, by the way, things that do absolutely nothing, I know you'll find some radicals will say, oh, my gosh, the. The history of violence Interrupters. Please, give me a break. Okay, social workers, he says, with all that, would you also want more cops? And now, Clay, you could continue to work through that. It's astonishing. This guy, the mayor of Chicago.
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Clay Travis
Here is part two. Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. He of the recent 6% approval rating, asked again, yes or no, would 5,000 cops help MSNBC this morning?
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Brandon Johnson
Of course we want more detectives.
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Joe Scarborough
I know it's not policing alone. I know it's not policing alone. You've told me everything else you want to. I'm curious, and this does come down to an ideological difference between people. Do you believe that the streets of Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police officers on the streets of Chicago?
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Brandon Johnson
I believe the city of Chicago, in cities across America, would be safer if we actually had affordable housing.
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Joe Scarborough
Look, that's not the question I asked. My question is, and I just need a yes or a no. Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer if you got all of those other extraordinary programs put back into place, which do have a history of being successful? If that's. If that's complemented by having 5,000 more cops on the streets of Chicago?
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Brandon Johnson
I don't believe that we should narrow it down to just police officers. You'll see what I'm saying. That is an antiquated approach.
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Clay Travis
Okay, it continues, Buck. And I just think I got to give coach Joe Scarborough credit. He sounds a bit like me back in the day with Mike Pence, when you just can't get an answer from a question that you think is actually an important one. Here is more. Brandon Johnson, mayor of Chicago, having his feet held to the fire on a simple question. Hey, would more cops help cut three?
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Brandon Johnson
I'm saying we've invested in detention.
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Joe Scarborough
Are you hearing what I'm saying? I'm agreeing with you that all of these other social programs are extraordinarily important. I just need a yes or a no. And then be the last time I ask if you get all of those other social programs that, that. That 800 million that. That new York City does, Los Angeles, other people do with great success. Would an additional 5,000 cops on the streets in Chicago help complement those programs to make Chicago safer?
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Brandon Johnson
Look, we are working hard to make sure that our police department is fully supported. I don't believe that just simply putting out an arbitrary number around police officers is the answer. What I'm saying is policing and affordable housing is policing. And mental and behavioral health care services is policing and youth employment.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, this is important. I think Joe Scarborough is basically begging this guy.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Begging that he's like, hey, moron, I'll give you everything else you want. We'll pretend all these programs that don't do a darn thing in any of these places that anyone can measure will also be in place here. But can you just say more cops would help with the crime problem? Could you please just say it? He won't say it. The mayor of Chicago. And it's because the mayor of Chicago is anti cop. He's anti law enforcement. He thinks cops are the problem. He thinks that crime in the south and west sides of Chicago, where there are a lot of homicides even for an American city, a lot of homicides going on. He thinks that the issue is mass incarceration and over policing. Clay. That's the bottom line. And he won't change his mind.
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Clay Travis
Yes. And I think this is brilliant of Trump. I just think it is absolutely brilliant. And I, I am staggered at the stupidity of Democrats responding to this. Trump is trying to lower violent crime. In so doing, he is going to save more black lives by far than anyone who marched in BLM protest and argued for defunding the police ever did. In fact, that cost black lives. And most of you out there, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight, male, female, all of you say, yeah, more cops would help. Why can Democrats not say it? Because the base of the Democrat Party still believes that police are the problem. They believe a lie. And I think this is why Trump has cut through the noise and they the results here. You know, we sometimes talk, Buck, and I think it's important that there are two tracks on everything. Is it politically smart and does it actually make the country better? Sometimes those don't overlap. Here they do. It's both politically smart and the country is better if we lower the overall rate of violent crime. And Trump has cut through the noise. And right now the debate we're having in the summer of his first term is, should we have more police? And is Trump trying to lower violent crime too aggressively? It's brilliant. I just, I gotta give him credit for it. It is absolutely brilliant. You're listening to Team 47 with clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
There was an exchange. Now it might be a little hard to hear the reporter for some of you out there. So we'll fill in a bit of it because this was an exchange of back and forth. You'll be able to hear Trump, obviously, but the reporter. But I wanted to hear a reporter tells the story of how she was mugged in Washington D.C. and wanted you to hear how this went. Play 33.
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Asian American Reporter
So more than two years ago was a Saturday morning in broad daylight. I was on my way to work, and a young man with a black ski mask pointed a gun at my face and threatened me to hand over my phone, my wallet, my laptop, and everything else. And when I refused, he used the butt of his handgun to strike me across the face, the cheek, or what some people call pistol whip me before running away. That has deeply traumatized myself and my family ever since. I've never dared to walk in the street of D.C. at night, ever. And my family was extremely worried. So, Mr. President, thank you so much for what you're doing.
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Donald Trump
Thank you for being honest.
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Asian American Reporter
Such incidents involve not just me, but also my family. If he had shot me, I could have died right there in the middle of nowhere without my family's or my friends knowing. At the age of. Back then, I think 20, 23.
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Donald Trump
Right.
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Asian American Reporter
Just starting my career here in D.C. without even starting a family. And now I'm very blessed to have this opportunity.
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Donald Trump
So you had a gun pointed at your head and you probably figured that he's going to pull the trigger, because these are animals that don't know what the hell they. They couldn't care less. And the pulling the trigger to him is a very minor event. And I'm sure he's done it before. So how did you. And you. And you did refuse to give it, which would probably, maybe somebody would say that was not the right decision. Right. But you refused. But I understand that.
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Joe Scarborough
So.
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Donald Trump
And then he hit you real hard.
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Asian American Reporter
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. Clay, this is. Here's a reporter I saw on the strength. She's. She looks to be a Asian American.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, she's a young. She's at the epic times, I believe some people may get that newspaper weekly. I believe that goes out many different places.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. So he's a young woman. She's not. Not physically large, formidable person. She. First of all, she's a woman. And beyond that, you know, she's not a. Somebody who would be in a particularly strong position to defend herself. Broad daylight, guy with a ski mask pulls a gun, says, I'm going to murder you if you don't give me your stuff. And then he pistol whips her in the face. People hear stories like this in DC Clay, and you know what the response is? Oh, yeah, I know a few other people that that's happened to and remember, this is happening in the nice neighborhoods. Indeed. You know, she, she's talking. I, I could probably tell you, I'm just guessing she probably lived in like Adams Morgan or something. We're talking about in Northwest D.C. this stuff happens. We're not even getting into how often this stuff goes on in Southeast D.C. and, and here Trump actually continues on this exchange. So just wanted you to hear what's going on here. You know, here Trump continues with this. Oh, you want to jump in? Oh, sorry.
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Clay Travis
No, no, no, no, no. I'm much less serious news. But I lost a major bet with my wife, so I was just texting her during the.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's not as I thought. You lost a bet with me. And I was going to say hold the phone, stop the press. That's, that's always good news.
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Clay Travis
This is all very serious. But Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift just got engaged and I just got texted about it. So this is going to take over all the pop culture news.
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Buck Sexton
We're going to put a pin in that one. We're going to go back.
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Clay Travis
That's what I was doing. That was my face reacting to the news. Serious news.
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Buck Sexton
We can read. I can read his face usually and I know when he's, he's fired up to make a point or whatever and he's an honest guy and he's telling you we're having a very serious, important discussion and he's fired up that he lost a bet over Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. Honest man. We'll come back to that, Clay. We'll let you, we'll let you weigh in on that in a second. Let's get back here to this woman, this reporter, pistol whipped in the face, the whole thing. So remember, there's also the trauma of these things that lingers with individuals, especially for a woman to be attacked like this be trauma for a guy too. But for a woman to be attacked like this broad daylight, guy has a ski mask on. And Trump and the reporter Continue the exchange play 34.
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Donald Trump
It's really amazing that you weren't shot though, isn't it?
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Asian American Reporter
I'm very blessed and that's why having this opportunity to stand here to share my story today, one, I'm very grateful for God for allowing me to still survive to this day. But also to Mr. President, thank you for now making D.C. safe. Thank you very much for us, for our families, for My parents, on my behalf of my parents and now my, my baby on the way. Thank you so much.
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Donald Trump
And there are other reporters and journalists, good people and you don't have to say it, but that have also been attacked violently and not violently too pretty, pretty badly. But. And I'll bet you see a big difference on the streets right now. And this is only 12 days, but people are telling me they're going out to dinner now. They haven't I told to serve my friend. But I have a lot of friends that are going out to dinner all the time now in D.C. and they weren't, they weren't doing it 12 days ago. They would never even think. One of my friends went out five times. It was four times. The last time I told. Now it's five times. He said, I love going out to dinner. And restaurants are starting to open again. A lot of them closed because, you know, they weren't. Nobody wanted to go into a restaurant. Nobody wanted to get to a restaurant or even sit in the restaurant. But you see a big difference now, don't you? I do.
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Asian American Reporter
I do pass by Union Station every day on my way home. And I do feel lost paper. Seeing the trucks right outside, seeing the National Guard troops members right outside just make me feel like I'm hopeful about these kids and one day, hopefully we can raise our family here.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much.
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Clay Travis
I think this is fantastic and there's going to be a lot of criticism because we've got a cut and I want to play it. This is cut 10. A woman at the DNC yesterday saying, ho hum, there's not actually crimes like this because this is now where Democrats are relegated.
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DNC Woman Speaker
Cut 10, where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff. That is a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait. Because most Americans are more worried about how are we going to address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see on streets and how do we deal with mental health and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents that scare all of us. That's what you should be talking about. That's where you should be focused. Don't take the bait in talking about migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans.
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Clay Travis
Don't take the bait on violent crime mattering to that many Americans. And I do think again, this woman's story is echoed by almost everybody that is listening to us in the country. Somewhere in a city, somewhere in your state, innocent people are being victimized by crime. And Trump has just said, no longer. We're not going to stand for this and Buck. 12 days since a murder happened in Washington D.C. at some point there will be a murder. But when I see 12 days, based on the history of Washington D.C. in the summer, over decades, at some point you have to start to say, hey, maybe this is not a total statistical anomaly. Maybe Trump really is starting to drive down violent crime in Washington D.C. and this is why it's ultimately scary to Democrats, because if Trump can do this, Trump shut down the border. Remember, the whole story that we heard for years was Congress has to act in order for there to be border security. Trump showed up and shut down the border security. And I think what's happening now with DC Violent crime is Democrats are becoming terrified. Chicago, we started off Baltimore, Memphis, Kansas City, New Orleans, whatever city you want to point to, with a huge violent crime rate. It's a failure of will, it's a failure of caring enough to actually drive down crime. We can do it.
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Buck Sexton
If you look at what most of the homicides are in a place like Washington D.C. they are not, you know, it's not like people are having a random property dispute and they both pull out guns or something. It's overwhelmingly drug gang related and theft, slash armed robbery, crime related. Right. I mean, this is, people are being shot because someone's trying to take something from them, or people are being shot and, or shooting at each other because they want to be able to sell drugs in a certain area without, without competition. I mean, that's, this is what drives most of the homicides in a place like Washington D.C. and a lot of places across the country. Those things can be made more difficult if there are more law enforcement officers on the streets and if they are told that arrests will be turned over to prosecutors who will do something with those arrests. That's a huge component of this. Remember law and order. Dun Dun, you know, it's about the police who investigate crimes and the prosecutors who bring them to bring the offenders to justice in a court, it has to be a one, two punch. But Clay, of course you can address these things. You make it harder for somebody to get away with going and doing a drive by shooting on a, on a rival's turf. You make it harder for somebody to think, I'm going to put on a ski mask, as was done to this young female reporter, and in broad daylight pull out a gun and smack you in the face with it and think that I'm going to get away. This is really straightforward stuff and I like that Trump is doing this for the reasons we've all discussed about saving lives and helping people and making the streets better. But also he just don't let Democrats squirm out on this one. Don't let them get away with what they're doing here, which is they are defending the status quo of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.
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Clay Travis
And again, 12 days without a murder, are they going to be in a position where they're actually now rooting for murders to occur? This is why the Trump move is so brilliant, both politically and also morally right. Sometimes, thankfully, these things overlap. Or you can do the right thing politically, hey, we should have less crime. That's something Republicans should be behind. And also morally, because even the people that Trump is protecting, remember, almost none of them voted for him. D.C. was a what, 955 voting for Democrats? It's taken a Republican president to be willing to, to say I'm going to make you safer. And it's not necessarily politically beneficial in Washington, D.C. for Trump. These are people that are not Republican voters. Same thing Chicago, same thing in all these different blue cities. But it's just the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do and it's something Democrats should have done, are unwilling. And Trump looked at it and said, I'm going to fix this. God bless him for this Labor Day.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham.
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Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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Carol Markowitz
That's why we started normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling and with a healthy dose of humor.
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Carol Markowitz
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
You're listening to team 47 with Clay and Buck. One of the big stories of the last two or three weeks has been Trump taking over the national guard in D.C. taking over the Metro Police. And I got to give credit to D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser before I play this. Buck, you said on the show a couple of weeks ago, hey, I kind of think Muriel Bowser agrees with a lot of what Trump is doing based on some of the conversations you had had behind the scenes.
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Buck Sexton
I kind of know someone who knows the mayor really well and knew for a fact. So I wish I could, I wish I could say that I just read the tea leaves on this one. But this was spy, Buck, you know what I'm saying? This was me running, running assets behind.
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Clay Travis
Enemy counter, counter intel. You had knowledge that the mayor actually agrees with a lot of the Trump policies on will never say so like that.
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Buck Sexton
But yeah, the mayor, Mayor Bowser would like DC Crime to be lower and she's very pro. She wants more business investment and she wants safer streets, which by the way, good for her. The fact that she that out loud though, in that way is telling you a lot about the politics of D.C.
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Clay Travis
All right, so we've got Muriel Bowser here. She is saying 87% reduction in carjackings, which were one of the crimes that had skyrocketed in Washington D.C. and giving praise to all of the assistance now that exists in Washington D.C. cut 19.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what MPD has been able to do in this city for carjackings. The difference between this period, this 20 day period of this federal surge and last year represents a 87% reduction in carjackings in Washington D.C. we know that when carjackings go down, when use of gun goes down, when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safer and are safer. So this surge has been important to us for that reason.
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Buck Sexton
You know, this reminds me, I feel like Trump should have a Colonel Nathan R. Jessup moment where he's just like I would rather you just say thank you or man a post. When it comes to the Democrats who have opposed Trump on this crime thing, they should just say, I mean especially the ones that live in D.C. they should just say thank you you because he's right and it's helping and it's a good thing.
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Clay Travis
This is a stat that I thought was staggering. They polled the AP so this is not right wing poll you the ap, Associated Press did a poll. They said do you think that crime is out of control, basically a major issue in big cities in America? 81% of people said it was 81% buck 18% said it's an issue. But it's a minor issue, not a major issue. So 99% of Americans say that big city crime is either a major 81% or minor 18% issue 1% of people said it's not an issue. Democrats have hooked their, their wagon hooked their horses to the wagon of crime is not that big of a deal. It's actually way better than you think. Trump is a dictator because he's trying to drive down crime. I just got to give tremendous credit to Trump for his political instincts and being totally and completely wrong on right on this. And I got to give Mayor Muriel Bowser this is how real politicians should work. I understand if they have disagreements, they have two different political parties, all those things. Conflict is not bad when it's rational, reasonable conflict about the direction that something should go. Crime should not be an issue of conflict. We should all as you just heard me say, the AP says 99% of people say crime is either either a major or minor issue in big cities in America. Maybe, maybe Trump is just right about this issue and it's better if there's less violent crime. Buck 87% decline in carjackings do you know everybody out there? Carjackings are an incredibly violent crime. You are using a weapon, generally speaking, to get someone who is in a car dragging them out, forcing them out. Sometimes there are kids involved, babies. If you have car seats. It's not like you can easily get a child out. It happens every now and then. A carjacking where there's still a baby in the back of the car, you take off speeding, a carjacking typically is in is really four or five crimes all rolled into one. To knock them down by 87% is flat out extraordinary. And again, I think this Just shows that it's not a intractable, unsolvable problem. The question has just been, is there a will to actually address violent crime? And with Trump, there is.
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Buck Sexton
And we're seeing the results, which we knew what happened, because it turns out what is obviously true is obviously true. Look at that. More. More cops, more resources, less opportunity for criminals to get away with things. You're going to get less crime generally. You get more of what you encourage, you get less of what you discourage. Discouraging the criminal element in D.C. from doing what they do is a good thing. And yet here we are, still having so many Democrats pretend that somehow there's something wrong with Trump's approach on this. In fact, it's worse than wrong. I mean, they think it is. It is, you know, evil. It is undermining our sacred democracy. They say all kinds of crazy stuff. Notice one thing you won't hear them say. We have a different plan to bring crime down. And the ones who are foolish enough to actually go there, like the mayor of Chicago, their answers, or rather their. Their planning, is laughable. More social workers has not, will not and never will assist in bringing down serious violent crime in any way you can measure and in any way that anybody would consider serious. So they don't have an alternative. So really what the Democrats have is because we don't want law enforcement to seem racist and because we don't want Trump to seem correct, and we certainly don't want to have to admit we're wrong as Democrats, we would rather more people be carjacked, more people be shot, and bad things continue to happen in American cities than would happen if we just let Republicans like Trump do what they want to do and do what they know should be done. That's as simple as this is, Clay. That's it. You know, it's just like we said with the Biden border, you either deport people and discourage illegal crossings, or you encourage it and you get 10 million people coming into the country. It's very straightforward.
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Clay Travis
I think deep down, Democrats are like, oh, wow, this is working. Because I think they really thought, oh, there's nothing we can do about crime. And I think they're starting to recognize when you've got 99% of people saying it's either a major or minor issue in big cities in America, I'm not saying the 1%. I'm trying to think of something that I would believe that I would be willing to go to the mat on, that 99% of people would disagree with me. I'm not saying the 1% is always wrong. It's pretty hard to for the 1% argument to win. You know, if you have a honest in any way impartial media. And I think Trump is winning and I think candidly, even a lot of left wing journalists who claim that they hate Trump agree with him on the DC crime related issue.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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