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- [00:00]
Eric Trump
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Buck Sexton
When inflation Jumps when you hear the national Debt is over $37 trillion, do you ever think maybe now would be a good time to buy gold? Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold and they want to make it easy for you until September 30th. If you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. Diversify with gold like I do from Birch Gold Group. Text my name Buck to 989898 again text Buck to 989898 stop settling for weak sound.
- [00:42]
Clay Travis
It's time to level up your game and bring the boom.
- [00:45]
Eric Trump
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Clay Travis
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- [01:11]
Asma Khalid
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- [02:11]
Clay Travis
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- [02:29]
Senator Marsha Blackburn
So is the world.
- [02:31]
Clay Travis
But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
- [02:39]
Asma Khalid
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
- [02:41]
Clay Travis
Tristan Redman in London. And this is the Global story.
- [02:45]
Asma Khalid
Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
- [02:51]
Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now.
- [03:02]
Buck Sexton
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He is of course, one of President Trump's sons, a guy I've known since we were both in grade school. And he's doing amazing things running the Trump Organization, as you all know. He's also got a new book out, Under Siege My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. And a portion of the proceeds will go to Turning Point USA to help continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time for us, guys.
- [03:29]
Eric Trump
It's great to be back on.
- [03:30]
Buck Sexton
Talk to us if you would for a second here about the because we just, we have to dive into this news of the day. I think it hit everybody like, I don't know if it was that much of a surprise given what, what a jerk he's been lately, but what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?
- [03:47]
Eric Trump
Listen, the guy has been a jerk. He hasn't been funny. But honestly, I think the network uses a way to get him out based on bad ratings. I mean, look at what the ratings are on ABC and NBC and CBS right now relative to call some of the other shows, some of even the cable shows, right? Look at my wife, look at Laura. I mean her show is getting 2.6, 2.8 million people on a Saturday night. And you look at CNN during the week and if they can pull 5, 6, 700,000 people, it's like they're doing great for themselves, right? So it clearly shows that the content not working. People are no longer amused. It's not funny to make fun of 31 year old kids who are getting assassinated on, on any soil, certainly not US Soil, especially somebody who is as beloved as our friend Charlie. And I'm glad they got rid of this jerk.
- [04:33]
Clay Travis
Eric, where were you when you found out about what happened to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction? Because you've got young kids like he does and like Buck does and my kids are getting a little bit older. But you travel around, you do a lot of public events, so does your wife. What was your reaction when you saw that?
- [04:52]
Eric Trump
You know, honestly guys, I hate to say it but it's like deja vu to Butler, right? I mean, I walked into my office, my sister came running up to me, literally grabbed me. She goes, you know, Charlie shot. And it looks like Charlie's dead. I mean, it was right after. And obviously at that point, it was making its round on social media. And, you know, I, you know, you look at the movement of the body and you knew it was devastating. And you know me, I've competed in all the shooting sports my entire life. You know, you could tell it was a high power rifle. I could tell instantly that was high power power rifle just by the sound of the shot. And my heart sank. I mean, Charlie was a friend. I've been on the stage with him 100 times as you guys have. We've done a lot of events together over the last 10 years, and I've stood on that same stage a thousand times myself in swing states all across the country. There were times leading up to elections where we're doing five, six events like that a day all over every victory office, every factory, every, you know, standing on top of John Deere tractors with a bullhorn. And, you know, I mean, my heart sunk. A young guy who created one of the greatest political movements in this country, who changed the entire youth vote in the United States. And, you know, they thought they could get rid of some guy's voice by using a bullet to expunge somebody's life. And honestly, when you look at, you know, 1.4 million people march across London, when you see Pretoria, South Africa and marches in honor of Charlie, when you see churches full all across the country in the days that follow, you know, they only cemented his legacy. They didn't expunge his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And, you know, and Charlie, Charlie lives on. And, you know, we can never leave that stage, guys. I will never, ever, ever get off that stage. And. And I think he was a great inspiration for all.
- [06:29]
Buck Sexton
Well, he is, and certainly your father continues to be. And that moment you mentioned, Butler, where fortunately a very different outcome there for that day with respect to your father and that he was able to pump his fist in the air and tell everyone to continue to fight. Eric, probably the most iconic single moment, I think, in my life in American politics. I don't know of anything that would really compete with that. The power of that visual. And I know in your book, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation, you get into a lot of this. One of the good things, though, is that this is the greatest political comeback and really the most Inspiring, I think, story of overcoming a lot of the forces of darkness in this country just by telling your family's story and telling about what you, your brother, your sister, you know, your dad, and what you've all been through.
- [07:24]
Peter Navarro
Yeah.
- [07:24]
Eric Trump
So, guys, I started working on this three years ago, and, you know, I was the guy. I ran the whole company. So everything outside of Washington D.C. and the family really fell on my shoulders. And, you know, all of a sudden it was impeachment one, it was Impeachment two was the Russia hoax. It was a dirty dossier. I was getting calls from the FBI. I hear secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know, communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham. You know, then they sent every DA, every AG after us, whether it was New York or Washington D.C. or Fulton County, Georgia. You know, the stories of all those. I got 112 subpoenas. I became the most subpoenaed person in American history, you know, by these radicals. And they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. They took my father off the ballot in Colorado and then. And then in Maine, you know, they came after us, they came after our employees. They raided Mar A Lago, they raided our homes. I mean, it was nonstop siege. They wanted to bankrupt us. They wanted to see us gone. They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the dozens of gag orders we all had and these. These nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast majority of them fell on my shoulders because again, they came after the company based on the fact that my father had constitutional protections. And, you know, and we beat these guys. We beat them back at every single instance. And. And so I started writing this book, Under Siege, because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know, I had my two kids on my lap when. When Butler came around and, you know, watched my father's head almost get blown off while having a, you know, five and seven year old sitting on my lap. Four and six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap. I mean, in high definition tv and, you know, it's, you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to do it again in, you know, Tom at the golf course. And then I saw what happened to Charlie, and that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone. They wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone. They wanted me off that stage. They wanted Don off that stage. They sure as hell don't like you guys for everything you stand for. And how principled the two of you guys have Been. And that's what Under Siege is about. It's about all the behind the scenes stories of how they tried to just decimate us, the corruption of government and frankly, and thank God, how we won, how we triumphed in something that was such an impossible. I mean, endless fight that went on for.
- [09:34]
Buck Sexton
One thing I want to ask you, Eric, is Clay told me this from the. I refuse to read the Snake Tapper book because I just felt like it was trying. You know, he's the arsonist who's then calling the fire department. Right. It just felt too. But one interesting revelation from the book. And Clay read the whole book, so I appreciate that.
- [09:51]
Clay Travis
I did it so everybody else didn't have to do it.
- [09:53]
Buck Sexton
He jumped on that hand grenade for the rest of us. We appreciated that one. But I.
- [09:58]
Peter Navarro
That.
- [09:59]
Buck Sexton
That Biden was behind closed doors, constantly with glee in his eyes, talking about how your dad was gonna go to prison. Does that surprise you at all? Like, did you think that there was still some sense of fair play in that Biden White House, but then when that came out, or did you know that that was that really the whole time they wanted to lock your dad in a cell?
- [10:20]
Eric Trump
Guys, I was the one when they raided Mar? A Lago. Who's shouting on TV at night, you think the FBI raided Mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the President of the United States? Like, give me a frick. And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jake Tapper, Laura was on his show. She was on. Cuz. Listen, everybody realizes this guy doesn't have his mental faculties and he starts screaming at her on the show. How are you the person to diagnose, you know, his. His cognitive abilities? Don't you think you're offending children with stutters around the country? And Laura, I mean, she would not put up with the nonsense. She fought right back. And then sure enough, you know, you look at the title and you can maybe remind me of the exact title, but it was like, you know, Biden's, you know, Cognitive Decline and the COVID up by the mainstream media, sitting there saying, the irony of this when. When six months ago, he actually called my wife to apologize. Like, you know, the irony of this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling at Lara Trump for saying that we all realize, everybody in this country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest tool in the.
- [11:17]
Buck Sexton
He said Laura was making fun of his stutter.
- [11:19]
Eric Trump
Yeah, yeah.
- [11:20]
Buck Sexton
Which is just insane.
- [11:22]
Eric Trump
Yeah. And it screamed at her for, quote, unquote, diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me. Give me a break. And then he writes book about how, you know, the media misled the world. And, I mean, the great irony of this, but, you know, that's why, honestly, that's example 9820 of why people detest the mainstream media in this country. And. And why, honestly, independent voices like yours, you know, are moving the needle and why no one watches CBS and why, you know, people like Jimmy Kimmel are getting fired and, you know, so on.
- [11:52]
Clay Travis
Under Siege is the book. My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. We're talking with Eric Trump. You are a business guy. You're traveling all over the world doing deals. And one place that I think is emblematic of how much the culture has shifted is suddenly everybody wants to play on your family's fantastic golf courses again. I know that that's a good thing, but does a part of you just think, when these deals get done, man, so many of these business people are complete and total cowards. Your dad was right. In 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, they try to cancel him. They K off, and then he wins the popular vote. He's now standing, you know, doing toast with the king and queen of England last night. And all these business guys suddenly, you know, they show back up and they're like, oh, we always loved you. Oh, let's go with D. I mean, this is. Is business. One of the most shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys are grinding for years, and now everybody loves you, but it's got to be a part of you. He's got to be like, give me a break.
- [12:55]
Eric Trump
I got canceled guys by every bank in the country for doing nothing wrong. Only because I chose to wear a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf courses in upstate New York, Things that had absolutely nothing to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that have been around for 25 years that had been perfect customers. And they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of all of them, turned us off like we were dogs. I mean, they cancel 300 accounts in the middle of the night. And then all of a sudden, every single day, I get, you know, calls from the heads of the. And you would know the names of every single one of them. They're the biggest bankers on Wall Street. Hi, Eric. You know, we really miss the. And we'd really love to get back together. I mean, is there a way that you could come over my house? I'd love to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat you know, it'd be great if we could try and rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I have very little tolerance for this nonsense. You know, especially now I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings. And, you know, I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're sitting there saying, you dirty. Can't say it on the radio, guys. But, you know, like, I remember and I will not forget. And, you know, it is. It is. It is shameless. Listen, Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And I actually legitimately believe he loves my father and loves our family. And I have a nice relationship with him now, but he was sitting behind me at inauguration. It's the first time I've ever met him. And I'm sitting there saying, you're sitting behind me. Inauguration. Yet in 2020, you spent $400 million against this. You put 400. And by the way, you go on Facebook to try and find a polling location or a voting location, a ballot, and guess what? Every single one would come up for Biden. Not a single one would come up for Trump. It's like they rigged the algorithms. They put. They turned down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden, everybody's smiling and happy. And, you know, I'm not saying that people can't change their mind. And I think he legitimately did and is legitimately on the team now. But it's. You know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.
- [14:38]
Buck Sexton
Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight that your family has put forth for the country. And it is. It is a phenomenal first year in this administration. We're not just saying this because he's your dad. I'm not just saying this, Eric. Cause I think I met you when you were 10 years old or something for the first time. But this is the truth. It has been an incredible first year. And what your dad has come through is the most amazing political battle in my lifetime, I think, in any of our lifetime. I don't think anything would come close to it. And the fact that you're giving a portion of the proceeds of the book to Turning Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy, I think just speaks to how much you care about, well, your friend Charlie, his family, and also the mission that he left behind. So the book is under siege. My family's fight to save our nation. Go get your copies, Eric. Welcome anytime, my friend. Please come back soon.
- [15:33]
Peter Navarro
Thanks, guys.
- [15:34]
Buck Sexton
When inflation jumps, when you hear the national Debt is over $37 trillion. Do you ever think maybe now would be a good time to buy gold? 10 years. I just put this into an AI into AI to give me a sense of what the numbers are. Gold has had about 188% return over the last 10 years. That's pretty good, isn't it? Whether as a hedge against inflation or just to diversify, Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold and they want to make it easy for you. Until September 30th if you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, request an info kit now. Just text my Name Buck to 9898 98. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold. Diversify with gold like I do from Birch Gold Group. Take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by September 30th. Text my name Buck to 9898 98. Again text Buck to 989898 Stop settling for weak sound.
- [16:37]
Clay Travis
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- [17:06]
Asma Khalid
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- [18:05]
Clay Travis
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- [18:38]
Senator Marsha Blackburn
So is the world.
- [18:39]
Clay Travis
But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
- [18:47]
Asma Khalid
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
- [18:50]
Clay Travis
Tristan Redman in London and this is the Global story.
- [18:54]
Asma Khalid
Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
- [18:59]
Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck. We bring in Peter Navarro right now. Peter, you were just talking with President Trump. I believe he's on his way back from England. What was that conversation like? What can you tell us about it?
- [19:18]
Peter Navarro
Never talk about what we're talking about. But, but I was delayed because of President Trump. But what I can tell you is this, that they are out to get us. And the new book I've got, I went to prison so you won't have to, is all about how not only did they come after me, they came after President Trump, they came after Steve Bannon. They targeted everybody I served with in the White House in some manner with these tools of lawfare. And I, when I was in prison for four months for defending the Constitution, I had the discipline to do a daily journal talk about these things. And I've got this book out because if we don't hold these people accountable, they're going to just keep doing it. Everybody I served with in the White House the first term I was there for all four years got targeted by the left in some way. The easiest thing that would happen is they'd have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars in legal fees. That's the best they could do serving their country. The worst you could do is what just friggin happened with my, my brother Charlie Kirk taken a bullet by an assassin. And then it, then they, four times they tried to put President Trump in prison. Two times they tried to kill him, Bannon, myself in prison, the Mike Flynn, Rudy Giuliani. So this is not a good time for this republic. But we're fighting back, sir. And that's why I wrote I went to prison so you won't have to.
- [21:16]
Eric Trump
And by the way, I don't know.
- [21:17]
Peter Navarro
If you saw the speech I gave at the Republican National Convention, but that speech was given the night of the day I actually got out of prison. And it's a wake up call. So I hope, I hope your listeners and viewers will pay attention to this case. We can't let them get power back. They will keep doing this again until we hold them accountable.
- [21:45]
Clay Travis
Peter Navarro with us now. He served four months in prison. What was prison like? I can't imagine. It was a very fun experience, but hopefully most of people will never know. And the idea that you were there for political persecution is even more bonkers. But in terms of the physical day to day for four months is like what in your experience?
- [22:06]
Peter Navarro
Well, that's one of the stories of I went to prison so you won't have to. You know, it's a Law Fair story about kind of how I got in there. It's a love story about how my fiance, Pixie and I were able to manage the trauma of four months in prison. But then inside, there's a couple things going on. I mean, you see kind of day to day life of how, for example, I lost 12 pounds, I got Covid twice because of the conditions in there. I saw no shortage of violence, no shortage of danger, but no shortage of humanity as well. I mean, there are good people in there who did bad things, not just bad people who did bad things. And just trying to navigate your way through that is a test. The test of who you are and what you stand for. And there's a funny story, the beginning of I went to prison so you won't have to, about getting me getting surrounded in the yard by three guys. And I'm thinking, you know, okay, what's gonna go wrong here? And one of them starts talking about how, how they liked me. I used the word liked. They did. And they say why? Because I wasn't a snitch. And I inside, I kind of kept a straight face, but inside I'm laughing my ass off because I'm trying to figure out like the moral equivalence between me refusing a congressional subpoena to defend the Constitution and these guys. The classical snitch is not snitching on their fellow criminals. Yeah. So stuff like that. There's some significant moments. I saved one guy's life, arguably helping him get some, some emergency medical care. And I think one of the most interesting stories inside the story is how I became Essentially an investigative reporter that uncovered a $5 billion billion dollar scandal inside the Bureau of Prisons that now that I'm on the outside had been able to actually solve. So I think that's like a unique historical moment that you'll never see. And I tell that story as well.
- [24:35]
Clay Travis
But where were you, Peter, on election night and what was your reaction to Trump's victory?
- [24:42]
Peter Navarro
Oh, this is great. So I get out of prison on July 17, two days after my birthday. The son of a bitch has kept me in prison, wouldn't let me out two days early for my birthday. I give the speech that night and then Pixie and I immediately go on the campaign trail on the Trump bus. And we were going to Georgia, we were going to Pennsylvania, we're going to North Carolina, working really hard. I'd go to, sometimes I'd be the warm up, one of the warm up speakers for a Trump rally, things like that. And so the night, night of the election night is like at midnight into 3am in the morning. I'm with the boss. And where, I think it was, where was it? Des Moines, somewhere out. He's, he's, he's going on for like two hours in a speech like he loves to do and stuff like that. Leaving.
- [25:39]
Clay Travis
I think it was Grand Rapids, Michigan, if I'm not Michigan.
- [25:43]
Peter Navarro
Yeah, that's right. It was Grand Rapids. We were up in, you know, the usual basketball, hockey rink up in the country you and I love up in, you know, flyover country. And he, it's like three in the morning before we get out of there and we land back in D.C. i don't know, six in the morning, something like that. And yeah, I was, there was no doubt in my mind he was going to win that race.
- [26:15]
Clay Travis
Per Peter Navarro. The show is ending here, but I want you guys to go check it out. I went to prison so you wouldn't have to, won't have to. A love and lawfare story in Trump land.
- [26:25]
Buck Sexton
When inflation jumps. When you hear the national Debt is over $37 trillion, do you ever think maybe now would be a good time to buy gold? 10 years. I just put this into an A, into AI to give me a sense of what the numbers are. Gold has had about 188% return over the last 10 years. That's pretty good, isn't it? Whether as a hedge against inflation or just to diversify. Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold and they want to make it easy for you until September 30th, if you're a first time Gold buyer Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, request an info kit now. Just text my name Buck to 9898 98. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold. Diversify with Gold like I do from Birch Gold Group. Take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by September 30th. Text my name Buck to 989898 Again text Buck to 989898 Stop settling for weak sound.
- [27:27]
Clay Travis
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- [27:57]
Asma Khalid
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- [28:55]
Clay Travis
Over 300 channels, zero bills, that's TiVo plus live news, reality movies and more. No credit card, no signups available on smart TVs powered by TiVo. Grab the remote, press play and start watching TiVo plus free binge worthy always on. Learn more@t bow.com America is changing and.
- [29:13]
Senator Marsha Blackburn
So is the world.
- [29:15]
Clay Travis
But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
- [29:23]
Asma Khalid
Asma I'm Asma Khalid in Washington D.C.
- [29:25]
Clay Travis
I'M Tristan Redman in London. And this is the global story.
- [29:29]
Asma Khalid
Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
- [29:35]
Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Team 47 with clay and Buck. We are joined now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're gonna dive into President Trump's announcement last week that he's going to be bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, according to many measures of violent crime on a per capita basis, may well be the most dangerous city in the entire country. But I want to start with this. Senator Blackburn, first of all, I missed you in Knoxville, where you and I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, which did not end well for the good guys, in this case, the team wearing orange. But I know that you were all over the place there. And it's a sporting event, but I bet you had a similar experience as I did, Senator Blackburn, which is the number of people who came up to me that wanted to talk about what happened to Charlie Kirk even at a sporting event was unlike anything I've ever seen before. No one, usually people want to come up, and it's almost exclusively, hey, who's going to win the game? What do you think's going to happen? And almost everybody that came up to me at the sporting event wanted to talk about the Charlie Kirk situation. I've not asked you this, but I bet you found it to be similar as well. And I know you have a grandson that attends the same school as my sons, and the impact on young men in particular of this assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But their response has been, I have seen, very profoundly courageous. I've been very encouraged. So that's a big prelude. But I'm curious what you found in both those situations.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yes, indeed. I will tell you, I have been just so honored by the conduct of my grandsons and their classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie Kirk and for the remembrance of 9, 11. And our grandson even noticed that the flags had not been moved to half the time staff before class started. So he walked out to the flag pole and he lowered the flag to half staff. And I think one of the teachers kind of got in behind him a little bit about it, but he said he was following the president's order for all flags to fly at half staff until 6pm on Sunday. And I said, you know, if that's what you get in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. Honoring someone who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their lives and our military who fought after 9, 11, and all of those brave first responders and doing what the President said was the order of the day, which was lowering the flags. And you're right about being at University of Tennessee. We could hardly get through the crowd, like you said, without people saying, look, we stand with Charlie Kirk. We stand with family values and Tennessee values and morals, and we stand with the President. And it was just such an outpouring, I think, for so many college students, whether you were there in Circle park or at one of the fraternity houses or wherever. Clay, it was astounding to me that these kids were such a fan of Charlie Kirk. They listened to him, they followed him, they enjoyed his podcast, and they wanted to. They loved the way he speaks truth and have so gravitated to that. And they love President Trump and they just wanted to register their shock and their disappointment with what had happened and their grief. Many respects. And we had a great sermon yesterday at our church and the minister said something I think is so important, is that while we turn the other cheek, and we know to turn the other cheek to evil, we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent on us to remember that we have to push back and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk. And as we have seen, his message now will be more powerful than ever. The outpouring of support for Charlie and his work for Erica and their children, it is not singular, but it is global in nature. And indeed, I think this is truly a turning point.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also getting some attention in the news cycle today is the move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to help tackle the out of control murder rate in the city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know about this so far? What stage is the planning? And do you believe that this would be able to have a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful. And what we know is this Cash Patel gave me a commitment when he came to meet with me before his hearing for his FBI confirmation. And I'm on Senate Judiciary Committee. I asked him in my office and then again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis and getting an FBI surge in Memphis under President Trump's first term. We had a program there called Legend. It had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed something back. So this summer, for two months, we had Operation Viper. There have been over 500 arrests. There have already been over 100 indictments. We know Memphis has 100 gangs. They have a per capita murder rate of 2,500 per 100,000. That's. That is why it's the most dangerous city in the country. We know that during the surge, Memphis had the best August it has had in years. Whether it's murders or rapes or thefts, burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been down and significantly down. Some the best in 20 years, some the best in over five years. So this has made a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over. They've worked closely with Memphis police, with the mayor of Memphis, and they need to continue this multiphase approach, and it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you will have the National Guard. Now, they can go in, they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can do traffic. There are so many things they can do. And this will allow Memphis police, who do have arrest powers, to go in and apprehend others in these gangs and get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD needs to be focused, is continuing to apprehend these gang leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these thefts. You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we have the port at Memphis, we have all five Class A railroads, i40, that goes from the east coast to the west coast, and, uh, also have FedEx. So when you've got all of this with the river, the rail, the highways, the air, cargo theft is a big issue. And these gangs have created processes to go in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft. So being able to have the police work with these companies, whether it's rail or water our highways and get a handle around this, cargo theft is vitally important also. So the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis to be safe. We want it to be prosperous. It is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant. It has a promising future. And a big part of that is getting the crime under control.
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Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, I just. Buck and I started off the show talking about the dark soul of the left in this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a big question, and it's one that I've been thinking about a lot. How do we fix this? Because if your soul is so dark that when you See a father murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open mic and saying, tell me whatever you believe too. The soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How do we fix the rot in our culture? What can we do?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Well, this is something that talking with people through the process of legislation that I have worked on with the Kids Online Safety act and trying to get that passed. And you look at what, what these young people are picking up on social media, they become isolated. They get onto these platforms like Reddit and Discord, and they get into these discussion groups and instead of it being a tool that opens their mind and something for good, it narrows their thought process and they become very angry. So I think the church has a role to play in this. I think parents have a role to play in this. Governance for social media platforms have a role to play in this. Looking at the mental health of kids, that is something that has to be done. It's not going to be fixed by one thing or another thing. But I do believe that strong families can help. I do believe that getting kids off of these social media platforms, that will help. I do think that, and I will say this, I think the governor of Utah has done an exemplary job in this, getting kids off these devices. You know, right now, the studies that we have seen is we've worked on keeping kids safe and trying to hold social media to account. You know, kids are spending, teenagers are spending as much as eight hours a day on the phone. Yeah, eight hours. Middle school kids are spending about five. And when they're doing this, they're being exposed to things that young minds are not equipped to see. This. I mean, this is why we have ratings on movies in theaters. You can't take a child to an X rated movie. You can't sell them alcohol or tobacco or firearms. You can't take them to a pornographic show or a strip club or sell them magazines. But on the virtual space, they're exposed to it 24,7 and they become desensitized. And you know, I just, I am, and some of my friends, we are just praying deeply, praying that scales will fall from eyes and that people will awaken and they will realize what is happening to our children in our society, that they will encourage our children to boldly stand for values and for right and to stand against some of this evil presence to come off of these devices. And that means that adult parents, teachers, preachers, everyone's going to have to do their part.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Blackbird, always appreciate you. Thanks for joining us.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
You got it. Take care. Bye now.
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