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Hi and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz show on iheartradio. My guest today is Jim Treacher. Jim is the host of the podcast Cue the Crickets and has a substack at jim treacher substack.com. hi, Jim. So nice to have you on.
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Thank you very much. Yes, well, why not?
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Yeah, why not? It's worse.
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That could happen.
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Exactly. I can't think of any bad things that could happen. You and I know each other online a long, long time. I was thinking about that today, and I love interviewing people that I've known for a long time, but I might not know their, you know, as my kids would say, origin story. So tell me how you got into being a comedy writer or would you self describe as a comedy writer?
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I have written comedy. I did that until recently. Well, I started off, like a lot of people, blogging long, long time ago.
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I've heard of it.
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Yeah, 25 or so years ago. And I did that for a while and then I got hired by one crazy TV guy and did that for a while and then got hired by another crazy TV guy and did that for a while. So now I'm podcasting. I just started. Actually, it was seven weeks ago today that I started podcasting. So this is all very new to me.
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Amazing. And I think you're doing a great job.
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Well, thank you.
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So you're a little kid and you think I'm funny. I want to write comedy or. How did this happen?
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Well, I was sitting in the back of a class trying not to get called on.
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Mostly smart.
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Yeah. But, yeah, I was the kid that was always. I could always think of something funny to say that would make another kid not want to hit me or sometimes make them want to hit me.
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Sure.
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But, yeah, humor was a way to kind of smooth things over. And, yeah, that's kind of been the through line my whole life is if you can make somebody at least smile or chuckle a little bit, they might be a little less likely to attack you physically or verbally or in any other way.
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I think that's probably true. I talked about this with Dave Barry when he was on the show. But I think people have started to be less funny in their writing. Like, when I first got into writing, everybody was trying to make it humorous or at least a little bit. Like, I mean, it wasn't full on comedy writing, but it was. You'd want to make a turn of phrase that would make somebody smile while writing about the war in Iraq. It could be anything.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And I feel like there's been a real decline in that. Do you see that or is that just me?
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Yeah, I mean, I. I've seen. Yeah, I guess so. I know that it's tougher to sell it. It's tougher to get people to pay attention if you're not, you know, angry all the time or.
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Or, you know, that might be it.
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Maybe it might be. I don't know. And not to say I'm never angry, but I do try to leaven it a little bit with some kind of.
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Oh, yeah, no. When I was peak angry during COVID I tried to make it funny so that people could kind of connect.
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Right.
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I felt like that was even more important when I was at my angriest. My kids aren't going to school. I have to kind of make this amusing for you to read. So you understand how serious this is, right? Yeah, I think that's true. I mean, I'm also thinking of, like, Mark Stein. He was so. I mean, he still is a very funny writer, but he's like, you know, he's had some very bad things happen to him in the last decade plus, and I just think that's taken a toll. And other people in our orbit who used to crack jokes more often don't seem to anymore.
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Well, yeah, and I think in my case, it's been a way to, like you say, you know, when bad things happen to you, and a lot of bad things have happened to me. I kept working after I got hit by a car. And if anybody doesn't know that story, we don't need to get into that, but just to distract myself, really. And I figured if it entertained anybody else, then that's a bonus. But yeah, I think you're right that people have kind of lost their sense of humor a little bit. And I don't know if it's just who the president was at the time that everybody hated or who the other president was that the other half hated. Or like you say, Covid.
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George Bush was funny. George W. Bush, actually. So is Obama. Sometimes I find Obama not to be funny. Yeah, that great. No, Trump is hilarious. No, no. Yes, him, I think.
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I don't take anything away from him.
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No, he's full on hilarious. But, you know, Joe Biden was not funny. But I would say Barack Obama intentionally funny. No, was funny. Yeah. Like, I don't think Barack Obama was an amazing speaker. People always talk about how he's such a great orator, and I didn't think that at all. I didn't think he said anything memorable, but I Think he had some good laugh lines. I think occasionally said something. And humor is very important to me. It's how. It's for sure how I connect to people.
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I think he probably regrets that White House correspondence dinner a little bit. That might have been a mistake in retrospect, but. Yeah.
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Yeah. What was the line like? At least I'm called president.
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Something like that. Yeah. Well, that was on Jimmy Kimmel. I think he did. He dropped the mic. He was like, at least I could still call myself president.
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Right.
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Right.
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So where did you grow up?
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Well, I was born in New Jersey and I grew up in Indiana, so I'm kind of half and half.
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Yeah. Is that a big cultural distinction between the two places?
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Well, I learned to talk in New Jersey, in New York, upstate New York. And then we moved to Indiana when I was a kid, so all the Indiana kids thought I sounded like a Yankee. When I went back home to my family, my mom's family in upstate New York, they all thought I sounded like a hick, so.
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Right. Amazing. I lived in Georgia during the Herman Cain campaign in 2004, and the people there had trouble understanding me, which I never even thought I had a New York accent. You sound so New York. It's. You know. But yeah, it's interesting how you can go that. Not even that far away, but sound so completely different and be not understandable.
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Yeah, I think TV has helped with that, but.
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Yeah, it has, actually. But it's also diluted all of our accents. Like, we all sound similar now because of widespread TV and videos and stuff like that.
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At least the English speakers. But that's another podcast.
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That is another podcast. So you did always want to be a writer?
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Yeah, I wanted to do something. I was always reading and writing and drawing and that kind of stuff, so I knew I wanted to do something with writing. I was a book editor for eight or nine years before I did this, actually. That was how I had the free time to start blogging was. I got laid off from that job and I just had a bunch of free time. So I just started just typing whatever I felt like, and people started responding.
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To was an amazing time. You could put. Put up a website and people would find it and.
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Blogspot.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. My. I had a. I used a combination of my first and last name, Cache, my maiden name, and it was cache.blogspot.com and then finally I bought a domain name, alarmingnews.com. it was great. I love that era. That was a. And, you know, when people ask me now, like, how do you get your start in writing or journalism? Like, I don't know.
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Yeah. Don't ask me.
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Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe Twitter. I don't know. But the Twitter thing is. It's very different, and it doesn't showcase your writing very much. It only showcases quips, which, again, I'm into quips, so it's not that bad. But I don't know how kids do it these days.
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Well, I think podcasting is kind of the modern equivalent of that. That's what it feels like to me now. It reminds me of those days of just being able to say whatever you wanted.
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Right. But it's interesting. Yeah. I was gonna say you. You could read, like, 10 blogs. You can't really listen to 10 podcasts.
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That's true. Yeah.
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And that's. You know, when I started, when I was thinking about starting a podcast, I had a lot of people say to me, like, don't bother. It's. It's very saturated. But if you have a kind of something that you want to say, the people will come. I mean, you know, assuming that's kind.
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Of the way I feel about it right now, it's. It's more for me at this point than anybody else. And now. And once I get better at it once, I. And I think I'm better at it now than I was well, seven weeks ago when I started. So if I can just keep improving, that's. That's. That's my goal at this point, so. And taught well, doing something like this, talking.
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Talking to other people, just having a conversation. Having a conversation. You know, my daughter one time was like, gonna go record your podcast, talk to your friends, make some money. All right.
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Yeah, Right.
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You know, I remember when I found out that Jim Treacher wasn't actually your name.
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Right.
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Our mutual friend Natasha. First of all, I didn't understand that it was chi. It was supposed to be gym teacher. I think I referred to you as Jim Tretcher. And she's like, you know, it's not his real name, and it's gym teacher. Right.
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Matt Labash said the same thing. He always wanted to call me that because of the rapper Trech T R E A C H. Naughty by nature.
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Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah.
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But it was a message body by.
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Nature, not Cause I hate you.
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Yeah, right, exactly. Down with opp yeah, it was just a pseudonym that kind of got out of hand. And my real name is Sean Medlock. I don't make a secret of it. When I got hired, the day of the Caller, I revealed my real name. It's kind of been an open secret since then. So, yeah, I don't mind saying it. And I don't really like my pseudonym. I feel kind of stuck with it at this point, really.
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Yeah, I know. I mean, I see you as Jim Treacher. Like, I find it very hard to not like, you know, I had you in my calendar today. Even though I know your real name, I had you in as Jim Treacher. It's going to be. This podcast is going to be released as, you know, Conversation with Jim Treacher.
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Right.
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I don't know. Does it not fit you? I think it sort of fits you. Well.
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It's kind of weird because for a long time. Well, up until recently, it's been something I didn't have to say out loud. It was like a Persona.
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Interesting.
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Like, behind, you know, when you're behind the keyboard and, you know. Keyboard.
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Yeah.
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And there was an element of that, but it was like a different Persona that you could put on. I don't know if you've ever seen a movie from about 1990 called Pump up the Volume, Christian.
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I have seen it. I was gonna be like, there's no way. I saw. I don't. I don't see any movies. But, yeah, I've seen that. Of course. Yeah, he's the dj, you're right.
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And I think it's like Hard on Harry or Hard Harry or something like that, and it's just a Persona he puts on. It's kind of like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It just feels like a different person when I'm doing that. So now I'm kind of trying to meld the two, I guess. We'll see.
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So you don't feel like you are Jim?
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Well, I don't know. I don't feel like I'm anybody sometimes. But, yeah, it's just. None of this has been planned. None of this was. I never sat down and said, well, here's what I'm going to do. Here's how I'm going to become a blogger and then do this and that. It just has kind of all fallen into place. But I think to the point of your podcast, most of those kind of jobs that I've had were from writing that I did for myself, and that got noticed by somebody with some kind of influence. That would be. My advice, would be just do what you want to do for yourself, and then if other people vibe with it, as the kids say, then.
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Right.
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It'll happen.
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What would you have done if this didn't work out, what would the plan B have been?
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Oh, gosh, I don't know. I really don't know.
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Come on, give it. Give us a far out one. I, you know, I say all the time, people are. And I said, I've said this on Dave Barry episode, but, you know, a lot of the writers will just give me something tangential. But, like, it's funny when you're like, actually, I'd be an astronaut.
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Oh, well, yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think that would happen. But yeah, I don't know. Well, it would be something with something writing or editing or. That's what I did for a living before this, so probably something editing, a book editor of some type or. That's what I did before this.
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What are you most proud of in your life?
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This is going to sound corny, but right now, really, I can do right now. I mean, talk.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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Well, you sound very natural, by the way. Like, we've never. I don't think we've ever spoken on the phone or anything.
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Nope.
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Nope. So I had no idea what you sounded like.
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Okay.
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And you make yourself seem like, oh, it's gonna be so scary.
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Well, you know. Yeah.
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You know, but you. But you sound like you've had maybe a couple of conversations before.
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Well, sure. Well. But not like this. Not over the Internet. Yeah. It's just all very new to me. So I'm learning, but I feel like I'm picking it up a lot quicker than I thought I would.
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Yeah.
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The main thing was just. Well, I've been working really hard to try to do that because I don't know if you've. If you go back and listen to my early podcast, early as in seven weeks ago, I was terrified. I didn't know. I hated the sound of my own voice. I'm getting used to it now because it sounds different, you know, when you listen to it. So, yeah, this is all just kind of. I'm just trying to get used to talking and expressing myself that way instead of sitting down and hemming and hawing in front of a keyboard and taking hours and hours to just say it. And I really prefer it, really. It's a different way of thinking. A different way of. I think our brains are wired to do this as opposed to sitting down.
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Yeah.
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Trying to write.
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Putting together a think piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm very proud of you also. I think this is.
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Well, thank you.
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It's amazing. And, you know, I'm glad you're doing it.
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Yeah.
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You know, I get it. I've heard from you that this is a big step for you. But it doesn't seem like it's this crazy thing you're doing. It seems very natural for you.
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Well, good. Well, I hope so. I hope so. That's the plan. That's the plan.
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We're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Markowitz Show.
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You'd be a guest on my show, I guess. Okay, I was thinking about that when you sent me that question. I think AI is going to have something to do with it and it's already. It's already changing. So many things. This podcast Most of the steps along the way I've relied on some kind of AI to do it.
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Really.
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The editing software I use is AI. The jingle that I put up in front of the podcast is AI My logo is AI. All the recommendations for this microphone I bought and I got sound panels up all over my laundry room in here that I recommended that. I had no idea how any of this stuff worked. I still kind of don't, but. So I'm just doing what the robot tells me in that way. I feel like I'm kind of trying to keep up with how AI is taking jobs already. It feels like it's already happening, so I feel like I have to race it.
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Do you feel optimistic about AI Pessimistic. I mean, I've had people come on and have both perspectives. Like, I get a lot of pessimism about AI but yeah, I've had some optimism too.
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I think it's going to be a mixed bag. I think it's going to take a lot of jobs, but it's also going to. It's going to democratize a lot of things we're already seeing. I don't know if you saw the Will Stancil show. No, it's a, it's a. I make.
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It a point not to find out who Will Stansel is.
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Okay, well, you don't really have to know who he is to enjoy the.
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Cartoon, but I'm totally joking. I. I've heard, you know, I like. But he is the one of those names that you're like, I, I just, I don't know. I don't know who that is. Yeah, let's keep it that way.
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Well, but somebody did like an entire five minute cartoon about him with Sora too. And it looks like an Adult Swim show. It looks like something really. Yeah, it looks and sounds. The voice acting. It sounds like a regular cartoon. And now people can do that kind of stuff to defame their. Their opponents, I guess, but. And I think a lot of talent is going to reveal itself that way that might not, you know, people that might not want to go to LA or New York. Sure, I certainly don't. Especially now. No, I'm sure you feel the same way about New York.
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I do. We're recording this the day after Mamdani won the mayoral race. The podcast comes out a few weeks later, so.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah. It's not the greatest time for New York right now. No.
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And I know, Yeah, I know why you left and I'm sure you're not in any hurry to go back, but.
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No, I'm not. But yeah, you're Right. You know, people who don't want to necessarily move to New York or LA to pursue creative things can do it from anywhere now. And there's definitely something to that. I am worried about, you know, everything looking the same because AI doesn't have a lot of creativity. I guess maybe that will advance. Like, I can tell when something is AI, and that's not a good sign because, you know, it's, it all kind of looks very, very similar. But I don't know. I, I, I'm trying to see it as the way that we saw maybe the Internet and how it had so much possibility and so many ideas came from it. And yeah, it got rid of it ruined some jobs, but it expanded the job market ultimately.
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I don, it reminds me of the advent of sound film 100 years ago that put a lot of silent film actors out of work, but it also opened up a lot of opportunities for other people. So, Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of people making stagecoaches anymore. Yeah, that was a big industry at one point. It's just progress. And I don't know how you're gonna stop it. If a job can be replaced, it will be replaced with automation. So I don't know. Once it starts replacing riders and, and podcast hosts, I'm screwed, I guess. But.
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Right, we're gonna be in trouble. I don't know. Again, I feel like there will be a time where real people and real voices and real opinions will almost come back around. Like, we may lose out in the short term, but I think that ultimately people will return to. I know this is a real person and they have real thoughts and real opinions and they're not just an AI bot talking to me.
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Right, right. With the, I don't know if you've ever tried to talk to, like, Grok, the, the Grok app and you can tell when it's been programmed to, like, it's hearing words that, that kind of flip a switch and it's, it puts on its concern voice or it's, I.
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Know I haven't had to, I haven't done like, actual talking. I didn't realize it really has, like a concern voice.
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Yeah. And you're like, okay, you don't have to switch the. I, I'll, I'll like, tell it. You don't have to. I'm not, I'm not going to do anything bad to myself here. I'm just telling you this, this is, yeah, but that all depends on the programming and, well, and the scary thing about it is that even the people that program these things don't understand really how they work and why they put out the results that they do.
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Yeah, they're going to be smarter than us in the very near future.
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I don't know about that. I don't know about smart as far as self, aware, but.
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Yeah, no, not self aware. I mean, hopefully not self aware, you know, Although today when I was folding my laundry, I was like, I could definitely get a robot for this someday.
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What's it called? Neo. It's like a house robot that.
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Oh, I thought the Tesla, the Elon Musk is coming out with one you can get on the wait list like now for it. And it's $30,000, which I can't think of anything else I want other than laundry. So I don't know if it'll be worth it quite for that. But people are putting their names down and they're getting ready to have a robot in their house.
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Yeah, I don't know about that, but yeah.
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Yeah.
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Beats doing it yourself, I guess, right?
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If you're rich enough, for sure. Well, Jim, I have loved this conversation. I knew you were going to do great. I felt like it was going to be very comfortable.
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Come on.
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No, no, I did. I've been following you for a long time. Anybody who doesn't follow Jim Treacher, check him out at JTLOL and definitely subscribe to his substack and his new podcast, Cue the Crickets. Leave us here with your best tip for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.
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Work. Work every day on something that you want to do. Do the work that you have to do to make a living and then do something that you want to do. Just, you know, 20 minutes, an hour, whatever. Just do something that you want to do and you'll get better at it.
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I love it. I could do that.
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Yeah, why not? Fold your laundry. You can be a professional laundry folder.
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I don't want to be a professional laundry. What did I have kids for? Thank you so much. He is Jim Treacher. Jtlol on x jimtreature.substack.com and check out Cue the crooked. Thank you so much, Jim. Thank you.
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Episode: Inside the Mind of a Comedy Writer: Jim Treacher on Humor, Culture, and the Future of AI
Date: December 12, 2025
Host: Karol Markowicz
Guest: Jim Treacher (Sean Medlock), Host of "Cue the Crickets" Podcast, Substack writer
This episode dives into the comedic mind and career of Jim Treacher (aka Sean Medlock), exploring the evolution of humor in writing, the personal journey from blogging to podcasting, the impacts of AI on creative work, and reflections on culture and technology. Treacher shares candid career advice, his perspectives on internet culture, and speculates on both the risks and opportunities of artificial intelligence in creative fields.
Background and Early Career
Adopting the Name “Jim Treacher”
Observation on Tone Shift in Writing
Humor as a Coping Mechanism
Blogging Era Reflections
Podcasting as Self-Expression
How AI Already Shapes the Creative Process
Predictions and Attitudes Toward AI
Personal AI Experiences
On the Power and Limits of Humor
On the Role of Anger in Modern Media
On Changing Technology
On the Value of Authenticity
On Building a Creative Life
The conversation is witty, reflective, honest, and carries a mix of nostalgia for the early internet, critical concern for current trends, and practical optimism for the creative potential of technology—tempered with humor and humility throughout.