The Karol Markowicz Show: Maud Maron: A New Voice for Manhattan

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Episode: The Karol Markowicz Show: Maud Maron: A New Voice for Manhattan
Release Date: August 8, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode, hosted by Carol Markowitz of iHeartRadio, guest Maude Marron, a candidate for Manhattan District Attorney, shares her journey from a lifelong Democrat to a Republican candidate. Maude brings a fresh perspective to New York City's political landscape, focusing on education reform, public safety, and the need for a stronger Republican presence in a predominantly Democratic city.

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Maude Marron's Political Journey

Maude Marron discusses her transition from running as a Democrat to now standing as a Republican candidate for Manhattan District Attorney.

• Maude Marron: “The big difference being I ran previously as a Democrat for City Council and for Congress. And this is the first time ever I'm running as a Republican.” (03:21)

She explains that her shift in party affiliation stems from her belief that the current Democratic leadership in New York City has strayed from effective governance.

• Maude Marron: “I look around at the people who are running my city, and I think that person's insane and has terrible ideas and I would do a better job.” (03:19)

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Education Reform and Equity

Maude delves into her views on the education system, particularly critiquing former Mayor Bill de Blasio's equity movements.

• Maude Marron: “If you say there's only seven black kids at Stuyvesant, you can say, well, why is that? And their answer is always racism.” (05:54)

She challenges the narrative that reduced diversity in elite schools is solely due to systemic racism, arguing instead that other factors like inadequate preparation play significant roles.

• Maude Marron: “Kids who come from stable two-parent families will do better in school every time than the kids don't.” (07:01)

Maude emphasizes the importance of family stability over other socioeconomic factors in determining educational success.

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Public Safety and Community Concerns

Addressing public safety, Maude shares her personal experiences and concerns about the safety of New York City, particularly in Manhattan.

• Maude Marron: “I fully expect that they should be able to take the subway home at 1 o'clock in the morning. And right now it's kind of terrifying because, you know, it's not safe, it's not right.” (08:07)

She underscores the critical role of a District Attorney in ensuring public safety and restoring the city's livability.

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The Need for a Strong Republican Presence in NYC

Maude argues that New York City suffers from the underdevelopment of the Republican Party, leading to a lack of balanced political discourse.

• Maude Marron: “New York suffers enormously from the underdevelopment of the Republican party.” (12:45)

She cites a New York Times editorial supporting the need for a two-party system to prevent the Democratic Party from monopolizing political power.

• Maude Marron: “We need a strong Republican Party. And to part to further answer your question about why I would run is because I know that if you stand up and you say, hey, look normal everyday people, former Democrats, moms like run for office as a Republican.” (13:24)

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Modern Feminism and Personal Values

The conversation shifts to feminism, where Maude distinguishes between traditional feminist values and what she perceives as the current state of feminism.

• Maude Marron: “Today's feminism is actually like this bait and switch for girls that you have every right to reject.” (24:54)

She criticizes modern feminism for promoting behaviors and values that she believes are detrimental to young women, advocating instead for a balanced view that respects women's differences and choices.

• Maude Marron: “Women are equally human and as valuable, but also understand we're different and that it's totally okay to reject what's being offered to girls on the left because it's not a world designed to respect women and make them happy.” (23:49)

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Closing Remarks and Advice

In her closing advice to listeners, Maude emphasizes the importance of disconnecting from excessive screen time and fostering real-life relationships.

• Maude Marron: “Put down the phone, put down the screen, except for when you're listening to Carol Markowitz and get outside, be with your family and talk to people in real life.” (25:22)

Carol Markowitz commends Maude for her insights and expresses hope for her successful campaign.

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Notable Quotes

• Maude Marron on Running as a Republican:

  “I've run for office before... And this is the first time ever I'm running as a Republican.” (03:21)

• On Education and Racism:

  “If you say there's only seven black kids at Stuyvesant... And their answer is always racism.” (05:54)

• On Family Stability in Education:

  “Kids who come from stable two-parent families will do better in school every time than the kids don't.” (07:01)

• On Modern Feminism:

  “Today's feminism is actually like this bait and switch for girls that you have every right to reject.” (24:54)

• Advice to Listeners:

  “Put down the phone, put down the screen... be with your family and talk to people in real life.” (25:22)

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Conclusion

Maude Marron's candid discussion highlights her motivations for entering the race for Manhattan District Attorney, focusing on education reform, public safety, and fostering a balanced political environment in New York City. Her perspectives offer a critical look at current policies and advocate for a return to family stability and practical governance. Listeners are encouraged to engage in real-life interactions and reconsider the role of modern feminism in today's society.

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Timestamp Reference:

• 03:19 – 27:06: Main Content
• Advertisements and non-content sections are omitted for clarity.

Transcript

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[Carol Markowitz]

Hi and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz show on iheartradio. My guest today is Maude Marron, candidate for Manhattan District attorney and education advocate. Hi Maude. So Nice to have.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hi, Carol. Thrilled to be here.

[Carol Markowitz]

I know a little bit about your story where, you know, friends in real life, as people like to say, how did you decide to run for Manhattan District Attorney? When that seems like a crazy thing to do to me.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it is a little bit crazy. And to me, too. Some days I wake up and think, why in the world did I try to do this?

[Carol Markowitz]

Why in the world? Is what. What I was thinking? Yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The thing is, I've run for office before. The big difference being I ran previously as a Democrat for City Council and for. For Congress. And this is the first time ever I'm running as a Republican. And honestly, the reasons are always kind of the same. Like, I look around at the people who are running my city, and I think that person's insane and has terrible ideas and I would do a better job.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And, you know, the first time you run for office, it's a little bit. Well, the very first time you run. For me, running for office was like running for my Community Education Council, running for school positions because I'm a public school mom, and all the schools have.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

School leadership team positions. You know, what people think of as PTA stuff. But New York has just a different slew of acronyms for the way that parents get involved in schools.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And once you start putting yourself out there, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and you get used to it a little bit. But I have found it to be really, really helpful for me, at least. One of the things I think I do well is I run and I say things that I know lots of people agree with, but that nobody else is sort of brave enough to say yet. And I wouldn't have said that's what I was trying to do back when. Back when I ran for my first school board position. But I wasn't saying, like, oh, lead the charge. And I was just saying, like, well, that's bonkers that they're doing it that way. Let's do it a better way. And. But what happens is, you get. Back then, I had people in New York, we were having. For your non New York audience members, it was a big fight in our public schools about what you call magnet schools. In the rest of the country, we call them gifted and talented. Yeah.

[Carol Markowitz]

Specialized. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And there was a big equity movement by Bill de Blasio, soon to be retired as the worst mayor ever of New York, where he was trying to get rid of them, this whole equity push, saying he was trying to get.

[Carol Markowitz]

Rid of screens, as they call it where they look at like grades or they look at a specialized test or something like that. But the key thing to mention about Bill de Blasio is he was only looking to get rid of it after his own kids had already gone to those schools. Go on.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'll say this. I'm not trying to defend Bill de Blasio, but I will say that's a feature, not a bug like that. You see that again and again and again with people who are pushing with call equity efforts. They want to take away from my public school kids high quality, excellent education while spending a ton of money for their own kids to get that high quality, excellent education they have chosen over the public schools that they feel perfectly comfortable putting their thumb on to push them down into the land of equity based on some really based on nothing but virtue signaling and flawed interpretation. You know, if you say there's only seven black kids at Stuyvesant, this big high school in New York, you can say, well, why is that? And their answer is always racism.

[Carol Markowitz]

Racism, right. Not because the schools that they came from did not properly prepare, you know, the test takers for, for the rigor of Stuyvesant. Really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Not only that, we say that as.

[Carol Markowitz]

Somebody who did not get into Stuyvesant and my husband did, which makes me extra bitter.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But you still know it's not racism keeping black people.

[Carol Markowitz]

No, I mean, I'd like to say it was sexism or anti redheadism or whatever, but it turns out no, I just didn't do as well on the test as the other people who took it that day.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And so I'll say this also one of the things we now know about the education debate and then we'll go back to other stuff. But one of the things that's become overwhelmingly clear and this feeds into. And I think of you, Carol, very much as a truth teller. I've been reading you for years and you do tell the truth sometimes well ahead of other people getting there.

[Carol Markowitz]

You can't do it ahead of time, Maude. You should know that. You have to do it right on time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Problem. Frankly, I've been too early. I always think of as kind of funny because I'm like, I'm not an early adopter when it comes to technology.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right, Right. Me neither.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's only about like the big political events of our day and the cultural moments. But what I wanted to say about the kids in school is that like you can control for like everything else. And it turns out that kids who come from stable two parent families will do better in school every time than the kids don't. Single time. And it doesn't matter. Socioeconomic, racial, immigrant status. If you've got a mom and a dad who love you and are making sure there's dinner on the plate at home in the evening, huge. That's what you need to be successful. And so that's why all those other diagnoses that we were getting, when they're deeply flawed, but they were also a leftist power grab is what it.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah. So I know what your arguments are about education, and I think you're such an amazing activist for kids. What made you go towards the district attorney job that, I mean, I imagine some of your issues, you know, such as crime, led you to this, but what was the kind of impetus for this?

[Ryan Reynolds]

So I'm going to be super honest because we do know each other. Is that like I was trying, I was debating, I wanted to run for office and I wanted to run as a Republican because I'm now a Republican. And I was debating between whether I should run for public advocate or Manhattan District Attorney. For those folks who know me, I'm a defense lawyer by training a lot of DAs, they're often prosecutors to start. Then they go into the private defense world for a while and then they come, you know, run for. For district attorney positions. Yeah, I've never prosecuted. I've always been on the defense lawyer side. But you know how a courtroom works and you know how a courtroom is supposed to work. And so I was debating those two things. And for me, like, if you don't have public safety, what do you have? Like, you can't. The city and you, as a woman who had kids and left New York for reasons that I probably should have left New York for too, you know, that like, if a place becomes unlivable for whatever reason, it's like, that's the end. And I just, you know, I was born in Manhattan, lived there as a little girl, but then then moved out. My family moved out, grew up in Pennsylvania. And unlike aoc, I don't try to pretend that I'm born and bred. I'm born and returned, but not born and bred. And. But I've given birth to four kids in New York City and I'm raised New Yorkers, and I fully expect that they should be able to take the subway home at 1 o' clock in the morning. And right now it's kind of terrifying because, you know, it's not safe, it's not right.

[Carol Markowitz]

And you know, it's so funny, I say this Sometimes on various shows. But people always say to me, like, why did you wait so long to leave? Like New York was falling apart, you know, for a long time before you left. And I say it was amazing. It was an amazing place to be for much of the Rudy Giuliani administration and the entirety of the Mike Bloomberg administration and even the beginning of the de Blasio administration where he coasted on their accomplishments. It was a wonderful city to be in. It was safe and it was blooming and it was just doing super well. And then it really was collapse. That's the only way I could describe it. But you clearly love New York and you are staying and fighting for it. Are you hopeful?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Depends on what day you ask me, Carol. You know, like in general, yes. But I don't know that from Manhattan. Donnie Bragg combo is a really bad combo. Right. Like I don't know if I'm that hopeful, that stick to itiveness. It kind of worries me. It would be a really, really devastating combination for our city. I do hope I just saw before I signed on here that supposedly Cuomo is saying one of us, like finally one of the guys that needs to drop out is saying one of us needs to drop out. And like I honestly don't care who it is. I actually do think, I don't know if any of them are gonna drop out cuz they all have such big egos and polls and they're. But I, you know, we, we non mamdani voters should coalesce behind one person. It's really hard to do when they're all actively running. And as someone who has run before for office, I know how hard it is to say like step aside for the good of this group. You know, like people want to run, I get it. But in this case it doesn't really make any sense. It does. If I may say though it does highlight this issue that I think New York suffers enormously from the underdevelopment of the Republican party. And yeah, if, yeah, what happens is, you know, politicians in New York, because it's a one party town, only worry about getting primaried from the left. And so they're constantly to the left. And if you don't have a Republican party then you can't correct for that. And in fact I was working on something and I, the New York Times right after Trump won said the Democrats are in denial and they have to come. I was reading this New York Times editorial and it said they have to come to terms with why they lost for real and understand they're getting like, you know, kind of too far left because we need a two party system. They're like we need even the New York Times said even conservatives and Republicans should want a strong Democratic Party because we need a two party system. And I thought, oh, I actually totally agree with that analysis. Yeah, for New York City. And we need a strong Republican Party. And to part to further answer your question about why I would run is because I know that if you stand up and you say, hey, look normal everyday people, former Democrats, moms like will run for office as a Republican. I know that other people, or at least I hope that other people will think like, oh, you can run as a Republican and be a normal person and survive it and do it. And we need more and more candidates and more and more quality candidates to run as Republicans because you have to have that counterbalance or else the uniparty, the one party Democrat city galloping is very fringe.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Go further and further to the left.

[Carol Markowitz]

We're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Markowitz Show.

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[Carol Markowitz]

So you were a lifelong liberal and Democrat. Is this weird for you, running as a Republican? I mean, being a Republican, I, I try to flip it to myself. Like I've never, I've never voted for a Democrat in my life. I don't know. I don't know what needs to happen in order for me to. To switch sides.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Look, I'll tell you what needs to happen. If Republicans got so fringy and far right that they decided like women shouldn't work outside of the home. If it was Matt Walsh's Republican party where it was like Matt the way and I love Matt's show. I said laugh at it a lot when I watch it and listen to it. I don't know the guy personally, but sometimes good and funny points. But if it was his version of what it should be, where you and I were like home, tending to the garden and the kids and not being allowed to be out of the home and that it like.

[Carol Markowitz]

Wait, wait, hold on. Let's not, let's not undersell that. I, I don't know that I wouldn't mind being home. I'm just kidding.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was a stay at Home mom for many years. Yeah, there's great upside to having the choice for the right moment in your life when it is. But I just mean, like the caricature.

[Carol Markowitz]

I know what you mean. But is it. Is it hard? Like, it's part of your.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It was.

[Carol Markowitz]

It wasn't part of your identity to be a Democrat.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I mean, it was when being a Democrat made sense. You know, I tried, Carol. Like, I joined my community board in 2014 and tried to fight for the kind of local middle school that they were opening up, and I got quashed. Like, I got. My ideas were out the door. And the funny thing is, 10 years later, that middle school is basically a failed middle school that they're trying to merge because they were like, no. No high quality academics, no screens, no any. They had restorative justice. Kids got, like, their teeth knocked out in fights. And this isn't in Tribeca. It's like, so parents have fled from that school. Right. Ten years later, what do I get? I get like, I was right. I went to all your stupid sessions and I wrote my little ideas in the post it notes and I was called racist for wanting, like, honors programs.

[Carol Markowitz]

So it's like, yeah, you're right. Too early again. It's just. You gotta time it better.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Totally. I've kind of totally have a timing problem. Look, I knew what I had to do to be elected as a Democrat, Carol. Like, I totally get that. I needed to never mention gender. Like, when I was trying, you know, I should have just said the cops are racist. And I had as a public defender, I could have leaned into cops are not perfect. They make mistakes. I could have leaned into anomalous police brutality cases and never mentioned the importance of good policing in a city. I could have done. I could have said all of the things that I knew what to say, but they weren't true. And I'm not sort of. I wasn't right. What do you.

[Carol Markowitz]

What are you here for? You're not here to, like, lie and, you know.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it's like. And I. If I remember talking to a donor when I was running for Congress who just said to me, like, what? I really think you should stop talking about trans issues. And the thing is, that person wasn't wrong to try to get elected as a Democrat. I should have pretended that sometimes kids need gender affirming care because that's the more popular position.

[Carol Markowitz]

Definitely.

[Ryan Reynolds]

In a deep blue city. It's just obscene and immoral. So I won't pretend that, you know, I won't say those Things. And I don't know, this is like thinking very long term, but, like, all the things that I've said all along, like, I've been proven right on, you know, like, we should have opened our schools earlier. Like, defunding the police is a giant mistake. Like, we have. New York State is losing people. We're leading the way in outward migration from a state because of bad policies that are being implemented. I've been right about all of those things, and I think I'm right about the fact that the path to restoration for our city is through the Republican Party. People just can't see it yet. And when they eventually get there, I'll.

[Carol Markowitz]

Say I was, I told you so, 2025, and I'll tell you, you were right too early. What do you worry about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I worry about the world that my kids are gonna graduate into. I have a college kid and two high school kids, and so we're getting close to that, you know.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I have a younger one too, but I'm less worried about him because, you know, he's still.

[Carol Markowitz]

There's still time to turn it around. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But I worry about the world my kids are graduating into because it is very different from the one that a Gen X kid graduated into. You know, everything from like, AI changing workplace opportunities to sort of how. How socially fractured things are where kids. We didn't grow up on cell phones, so we knew how to talk to each other and how to go to parties.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, it was great. That was the best era ever.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Totally. But I worry about that for them, like, this world that they're graduating into, how sharply different it is from the world that we grew up in.

[Carol Markowitz]

It really is. And there's so many things that I just think we took for granted in our analog world that they'll just never know. Although once in a while I'll see these posts on X where all the childhood we had, where we played outside all day, like, you could still have that. My kids do that even though they have iPads. That doesn't mean they're sitting at home on them. Like they're still playing outside all day and coming home, you know, not when the street lights come on because we don't really have that. But, you know, same.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But you have. As a parent, you have to be committed to making sure they get that. Because the default is like, kids can get sucked into TV or screens for sure. To create it for them.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah. But as parents, you could do that and you could say, you know, no screens and. Yeah. What advice would you give your 16 year old self. Like, what does 16 year old Maude need to know?

[Ryan Reynolds]

What's so funny that I mentioned Matt Walsh to you because I thought about this question before and I thought I didn't have to think about it so much because I have a 17 year old daughter and much to her chagrin, I've been giving her lots of advice and one of the things I think is to just reject sort of today's feminism because it's all, it's this.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, you're never getting elected as a Democrat. Sorry, go ahead.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I've always considered myself a feminist, but the fact of the matter is like today's go girl feminism is this kind of slutty, like moral, morally corrupt. Doesn't really offer girls like a good path to walk down. And in fact, I'll say I'm gonna give a shout out to Louise Penny, who wrote this book, what is her book called? The Case against the Sexual Revolution. Yeah, it's a brilliant read. It's a slim little read. I gave it to my daughter who read it quickly and we had a fantastic conversation about it. And I just think that you can be a feminist in that. For me, it's like women are equally human and as valuable, but also understand we're different and that it's totally okay to reject what's being offered to girls on the left because it's not a world designed to make, to respect women and make them happy.

[Carol Markowitz]

Is the feminism today different from the feminism of when you were 16?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Fiercely. Because for us it was still this thing of like, you can have a job and raise your family. It was like, you can do both these things. And now we have people who are like, how many men can they sleep with in one day? You know, that are like YouTube thing, the only fan. Now it's like you can be an only fans and you can buy a house after having raising this much money on only fans. Like we used to just know that that was like slutty and pornographic. It was like shocking when people did a spread, you know, a centerfold spread on Playboy now that like you don't even have to open Playboy to see that kind of, you know, skin that's just in like people's websites and on people in magazines that are regular magazines. And I just think it's. I have three sons and a daughter. And so having a daughter and having, you know, and wanting your sons to treat women a certain way, to live a certain way, it's like this thing that they're selling you as feminism is not really feminism to me.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And yeah, that's what I would say is like modern day feminism is actually like this bait and switch for girls that you have every right to reject.

[Carol Markowitz]

I love that. Yeah, reject it all the way. I've loved this conversation. Maude, I think you are terrific and I hope you are New York's next district attorney. Leave us here with your best tip for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, we touched on it a little bit already, but I have to say, put down the phone, put down the screen, except for when you're listening to Carol Markowitz and get outside, be with your family and talk to people in real life.

[Carol Markowitz]

Life touch grass people. I say it all the time and I think that it really is one of the best pieces of advice. Thank you so much for coming on, Maude. She is Maude Marin, candidate for Manhattan district attorney. If you live in Manhattan, I mean, you're running out of options here, people. Grab Maude with both hands before we steal her to Florida. Thank you so much for coming on.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you, Carol.

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[Ryan Reynolds]

Ugh.

[Carol Markowitz]

Come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

This is an iHeart podcast.