The Karol Markowicz Show: Wilfred Reilly on Debunking Liberal Myths in Education

Summary

The Karol Markowicz Show: Wilfred Reilly on Debunking Liberal Myths in Education

Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – The Karol Markowicz Show
Episode Date: March 11, 2026
Guest: Wilfred Reilly, Associate Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University, Co-founder of Unified Solutions America, and author of “Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me”
Host: Carol Markowitz

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Carol Markowitz sits down with Wilfred Reilly to discuss his latest book, “Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me,” and the pervasive influence of liberal ideology across American education. The conversation weaves through Reilly’s personal background, his diverse career path, the realities of progressive activism, and his mission to counteract dogmatic narratives in school curricula. The episode also touches on Reilly’s new business venture aimed at “de-wokeifying” corporate America, and concludes with his concerns about the future of AI and his practical life advice.

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Wilfred Reilly’s Background and Journey

(03:12–13:55)

• Early Life & Education:

  • Grew up in a working-class suburb of Chicago; moved to Aurora due to concerns about public schooling.
  • Experienced first-hand the challenges in urban communities, including gang violence and military recruiting at his high school.
  • “A lot of those people wouldn’t be there in three or four years… there was a little bit of lost innocence very quickly.” (Wilfred Reilly, 06:05)
  • Attended Southern Illinois University, later pursued law and eventually a PhD.

• Career Detours:

  • Worked as a canvas manager for the Human Rights Campaign, gaining insight into progressive activism and its business side.
  • “When people say the left seems really organized, like, how are there these stacks of bricks near this riot? There’s an element of truth to that.” (Wilfred Reilly, 10:40)
  • Sold high-end networking opportunities in Chicago, experienced the high-pressure environment of sales floors.
  • Coping with family circumstances, Reilly cycled through multiple jobs, all of which contributed to a pragmatic perspective.

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Transition to Author and Critic

(19:31–23:50)

• Political Evolution:

  • Despite his activist background, Reilly describes himself as never having been a “radical lib.”
  • Progressive organizing was “very much for-profit businesses,” with little ideological litmus beyond basic progressive cred.

• Writing “Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me”:

  • Outlined previous works—academic monograph, "Hate Crime Hoax," and "Taboo: 10 Things You Can’t Talk About."
  • Motivation: Push back against claims that American education is too conservative, instead asserting an overwhelming liberal dominance.
  • “The Academy in the USA leans about 93% to the left... all of the messages… were wildly from one side of the aisle. They were mostly wrong.” (Wilfred Reilly, 23:45)
  • Examples:
    • Debunks ideas that U.S. slavery was unique or that Native American history is whitewashed in mainstream curricula.
    • “Slave was one of the first 10 or 12 human written words… If whites or Europeans did anything when it came to the slave trade that was truly unique, it was ending it.” (Wilfred Reilly, 24:09)

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Critique of Liberal Narratives in Education

(22:37–25:34)

• Reilly identifies persistent biases and inaccuracies in mainstream educational materials:
  • Native Americans often portrayed one-dimensionally, ignoring pre-modern moral standards.
  • “All societies prior to about 1950 didn’t follow modern empathic morality… at best they had a yeoman sort of Christlike morality... at worst, they didn’t have much at all, like you lost, get on the boat.” (Wilfred Reilly, 24:40)
• Critiques blanket negative portrayals of U.S. history, contextualizing American failings as common to all human societies.

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Introducing Unified Solutions America – “De-Wokeifying” Business

(30:02–33:03)

• Birth of Unified Solutions America:

  • Co-founded with Brooks Crenshaw and Kevin Jackson; focused on “anti-DEI” (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) consulting.
  • “We've seen the reverse from like Booz [Allen] and McKinsey and everybody for the past 20–30 years, taking your money… we can look through your corporate material and see how much of this stuff you've really internalized.” (Wilfred Reilly, 30:22)
  • Offers diagnostics, expert consultations, and practical replacements for existing DEI programs.

• On Corporate Wokeness:

  • Criticizes current DEI activities including “privilege walks” as divisive and counterproductive.
  • “You'll be asking people these sort of crazy questions like, how close were you with your father… No worse way to build a team of people than this.” (Wilfred Reilly, 32:13)

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Reflections & Predictions

(33:31–38:34)

• Personal Pride:

  • Reilly values steady self-improvement and having moved beyond his beginnings.
  • “Each thing that I've done in life has been an improvement over the last one, which is really all you can ask for… The proudest one is being me now.” (Wilfred Reilly, 35:12)

• Five-Year Prediction:

  • Warns of serious, underappreciated risks with rapid escalation of AI.
  • “My five year out prediction is that we’re gonna have to unplug AI or weird stuff’s gonna start happening… You keep seeing this bizarre behavior…” (Wilfred Reilly, 35:37)
  • Raises the alarm about AI systems being built into critical infrastructure with insufficient oversight.

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Wilfred Reilly’s Life Advice

(38:34–39:56)

• “If it doesn’t seriously hurt a person you like, you should do things that you want to… Unless something’s evil in the terms of your own honor code, when you have a set of choices, you just do the thing you want.” (Wilfred Reilly, 38:34)

• Suggests people often feel bound by unnecessary obligations—negotiation and honest pursuit of self-interest is healthy.

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Notable Quotes

• “The Academy in the USA leans about 93% to the left... all of the messages… were wildly from one side of the aisle. They were mostly wrong.” (23:45 – Wilfred Reilly)
• “Slave was one of the first 10 or 12 human written words… If whites or Europeans did anything when it came to the slave trade that was truly unique, it was ending it.” (24:09 – Wilfred Reilly)
• “You'll be asking people these sort of crazy questions like, how close were you with your father… No worse way to build a team of people than this.” (32:13 – Wilfred Reilly)
• “Each thing that I've done in life has been an improvement over the last one, which is really all you can ask for… The proudest one is being me now.” (35:12 – Wilfred Reilly)
• “My five year out prediction is that we’re gonna have to unplug AI or weird stuff’s gonna start happening…” (35:37 – Wilfred Reilly)
• “If it doesn’t seriously hurt a person you like, you should do things that you want to.” (38:34 – Wilfred Reilly)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:12 – Wilfred Reilly’s Early Life and Upbringing
• 10:40 – Inside Progressive Activism & Political Organizing
• 19:31 – Shift from Liberal Activism to Critiquing Educational Narratives
• 23:45 – Biases in School Curriculum and Reilly’s Book Thesis
• 30:02 – Unified Solutions America and Anti-DEI Consulting
• 32:13 – Critique on Modern Corporate DEI Initiatives
• 33:31 – Reilly’s Proudest Accomplishments
• 35:37 – Prediction: The Coming AI Reckoning
• 38:34 – Advice: Live for Yourself within Moral Bounds

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Tone and Style

The conversation is engaging, candid, and laced with wit and dry humor—true to both Carol Markowitz’s conversational style and Wilfred Reilly’s combative yet personal online persona. The discussion is sharply critical of progressive orthodoxy in education and corporate America, balanced by an emphasis on personal agency and realistic, incremental progress.

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Essential Takeaways

• Education Has a Left-Leaning Bias: Reilly argues that, contrary to popular progressive claims, the American education system overwhelmingly favors liberal perspectives and often presents a skewed historical narrative.
• Activism Is Often About Money, Not Morality: Through his insider experience, Reilly details how progressive organizations are as pragmatic, profit-driven, and diverse in motivation as any other enterprise.
• DEI in Corporate America Is Ripe for Pushback: Reilly’s new venture reflects a budding market for anti-woke consultancy, aiming to foster merit-based hiring and team-building against divisive identity politics.
• AI Is a Ticking Time Bomb: He predicts that the uncritical adoption of AI in daily life and critical infrastructure could force drastic corrective action in the next five years.
• Live Authentically and with Purpose: Reilly’s core advice for listeners is to pursue what they genuinely want, provided it doesn’t harm others or violate their honor code.

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Transcript

[Carol Markowitz]

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[Wilfred Riley]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Carol Markowitz]

Hi and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz show on iheartradio. My guest today is Wilfred Riley. Wilfred is associate professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University, the co founder of UnifiedSolutionsAmerica.com and the author of several books including most recently Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Debunking the False Narratives Defining America's School Curricula. Hi Wilfred, so nice to have you on.

[Wilfred Riley]

Great to great to be on the program. Glad to see you.

[Carol Markowitz]

I've been a follower of yours for a very long time. I have just always enjoyed you have a combative but very personable way about you on Twitter. X How did you get your start in this thing of ours?

[Wilfred Riley]

Well, I mean I've done a bunch of different things in life and I mean I think a lot of people have heard my bio on various.

[Carol Markowitz]

Let's hear it again. You know. Okay, cool.

[Wilfred Riley]

I mean I grew up in a working class suburb of Chicago. I was born in Chicago itself. I grew up in a nearby Aurora on the east side, which is a blue collar inner suburb. I moved out there for academic and athletic reasons when I was in just before high school. My mom wasn't too impressed with the Chicago public schools and I mean Catholic prep school in a big city costs a lot of money. So she thought I'd learned to read better, as she put it, if we were a little out in the burbs. So I moved out there and had a very standard childhood. One thing that did disrupt that a little bit actually was that Aurora and some of the neighboring cities like Elgin, Joliet, became kind of defined in the 1990s by violence as the projects were torn down in Chicago and the black gangs from Chicago bluntly tried to move out to this newer area and came into conflict with the local Caucasian and Hispanic kind of like youth organizations. So people are shooting each other pretty frequently in the suburbs.

[Carol Markowitz]

Really?

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah. Well, the Chicago inner suburbs. Chicago is bigger. Chicago is twice the size of Manhattan. It's as Big as la. So it's a giant city. We never, as humble, honest Midwesterners, we never quite did the New York trick of claiming all our suburbs as the city. So I mean New York is not just Manhattan, it's Staten island is part of New York. They've gone through Long island before.

[Carol Markowitz]

I mean, look, I'm a Brooklyn girl and I still call Manhattan the city.

[Wilfred Riley]

Everyone does. City. Yeah. Brooklyn is New York though. But I mean like you get Queens, it's, it's Queens is as large as Chicago. Like anyway, like in, in Chicago land. Like if you take the Metro west you go for about two hours. I mean Aurora would be in the first part of that. But I mean you're, you're going out almost to Rockford in tall urban looking areas. So like Aurora is a city of I think 270,000 people, something like that. So the gang violence was concentrated mostly in quite urban looking portions of the city. But it was something, it was around like friends of mine were killed in high school and the school was also a major recruiting target for the US Military as a blue collar inner suburban school. So more of them were, a few of them were killed but more of them were injured in the Gulf War which began like a year after I left high school. So that was kind of the shadow in the corner of the dances and so on. A lot of those people wouldn't be there in three or four years. So. And I think as, not necessarily just especially as a man because many of the young women had children early on and so on, but there was a little bit of lost innocence very quickly. But anyway, I went on to like an ordinary state college. I went to Southern Illinois, graduated, went on to law school. And this, all of this was kind of like leveling up. Like when I was, I got out of high school, I would have probably just been pretty happy to get a job. But my mom was an upper middle class woman who was living in the hood because she was a schoolteacher. That's, that's where her union job was. She was teaching in District 131. And we just, we just lived there, we'd lived in Chicago because that's where she was before.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Wilfred Riley]

And she was just like, you're, you're not going to just sit around here. They go, you're going to college, you're joining the military. And again like the bets. Yeah, I have a, the joke is I have a skin disease. Bullets go through my skin. So if I was good enough to get into college, I was going to do that so I got into just a standard school. I still love Southern Illinois. Very, very party sort of social school at that time. Went there, graduated, and by the time I got out of college I had matured enough that I was interested in further education. And part of almost the collegiate hustle that every middle class kid is fed is you're told you're not going to do much of anything in life unless you get this piece of pa. Of course, yeah. And you're not told some of the details though, right? You're not told that the Marines or the priesthood or a dozen other things would get you to the same place. And you're also not told that if you just get that degree from like a state secondary flagship, like you'll get a job. But unless you're really interested in making $42,000 a year for the rest of your life, you're going to have to do something else. Like you're not done. So when I got done with this poli sci degree, some business classes, this kind of thing at siu, by the end of that it was, it was very clear, like you're either going to do standard junior executive job back home or you're going to go on to, to study more. And I'd been interested in law, so I applied to law school. It probably didn't hurt that I was black and native and I had family members that had gone to the University of Illinois and so on. So I got in and by the time I got out of there I was pretty much an adult and I was still interested in some of the things I'd studied before I applied for serious jobs. But I also applied for a couple PhD programs. I got into again, most of them.

[Carol Markowitz]

I like how you have serious jobs and less serious PhD programs.

[Wilfred Riley]

Well, I mean the, to some extent, Southern Illinois actually for the Political Science PhD program with Tobin Grant, Steve Shulman and so on was quite a good school. But there also is an element of practicing your Frisbee skills, right. If you're 24 and you're like the other, as opposed to like federal felony prosecution or something, there's a big difference when it comes to like sitting in a hammock reading, you know, Foucault and

[Carol Markowitz]

saying this guy sounds better for sure. Did you practice law?

[Wilfred Riley]

No, I'm not, no. Actually like I took the bar in Illinois, I fully completed the law degree. I guess I technically call myself a lawyer, but no, I've, I've never been a long term legal practitioner in any state. So there's no, there's no legal cred for me to really, really rest on for that matter, in terms of having like a shingle. I've never been a short term legal practitioner in any state, like, but. So I think that the. The interesting part of my background actually is that a couple of years into my graduate degree my mom got sick and I went back to Chicago. And I was just kind of pissed off at this time. Like I was worried about her. I was annoyed that I was. The path was going to be delayed by quite a while. And I just did this sort of odyssey of weird jobs for quite a while. It became six or eight years, but I worked as a canvas manager for the Human Rights Campaign. So I got to see activism really up close and personal. And the. As I'm sure you know, when people say the left seems really organized, like, how are there these stacks of bricks near this riot?

[Carol Markowitz]

Right.

[Wilfred Riley]

There's an element of truth to that. The Human Rights Campaign signs deals with groups that have names like, say, the People's Project, to canvas in public areas, to travel around the country with them. That's why my Twitter bio says Freedom Rider. I'm not actually lying, but to raise large amounts of money, usually a few million per summer and to rent themselves out for political campaigns and this kind of thing. And at the time, I was pretty left on gay and women's rights. Mm. We were backing a pretty basic non discrimination bill. And the office also worked on all these other campaigns, like, without even BSing much for stuff like Ducks Unlimited. It was totally mercenary. They didn't care. Like, left, right, like whatever you'd put on your hat and you'd like go out there, like environment America, you know. But so I did this for a while and it's a really fascinating job. Like, it's not for. It's for profit. You get about 20% of all the money you raise. People can give you up to, I think, $5,000. There were people. One of the people that I met there, a guy named Tom, is the only person I've ever met who's a dramatically better salesman than me. He made enough money that he was able to buy a condo on the north side of Chicago. I think he still lives there today. But we were traveling around with all these young hustlers, people at opportunities.

[Carol Markowitz]

No, it's a good living if you're a good communicator. I always thought those boiler rooms, the people who do the stock scams or whatever, if those people realized they could basically do the same thing, but legally, like, I think that they could do very well.

[Wilfred Riley]

Well, the next job was the legal version of that. It was a fairly highly prestigious but like just screaming into phones sales floor. It wasn't specifically a trading floor, but it was booking CEOs to meet each other. And again there it's like your baseline pay was something ridiculous like $800 a month, but the product is worth $80,000 or whatever and you get again 20% of it. So it's all these people. We were, we were based in the Tribune Tower, which is right off the Magnificent Mile and which is at kitty corner angle to LaSalle street, which is our version of Wall Street. So there were a lot of excuse language, sort of young assholes in suits running around like barking at each other. And I, so I did one of these jobs for like three years and one of them for like four years. And by the end of that point I'd made a decent amount of money. I was done with my PhD and I'd had a lot of really interesting life experiences. My buddy ran a nightlife company this entire period. So they were also throwing these like large ridiculous parties in the background of a lot of what we were doing. So I mean, I sometimes get home in a suit and there'd be like a bunch of guys dressed like elves sitting around just like, what's up dog? I mean just. So this went on for a while. Mom unfortunately got through the first stage of the illness, didn't make it through the second.

[Carol Markowitz]

Sorry.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah, it was, it was actually very tragic. But by this point I, I did get through the degree. I told her that I would do that and graduated from SIU. And with the PhD, it was kind of like sort of it's time to grow up. I mean by that point I was right.

[Carol Markowitz]

You're like, I've run out of school, I've done it all.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah, I mean, well, that's the thing like when you talk about. So like right now I'm 40 and it's a bit different for the guys. But even now, like, I mean I've, I've mentored a bunch of people. I've done a, I mean I've got a house, but I mean like, like I don't have kids. So I've got like two years to figure that one out. Yeah, like a lot of.

[Carol Markowitz]

Why two years?

[Wilfred Riley]

Well, I mean, physical, there are significant physical effects for men as well, of ages.

[Carol Markowitz]

Oh, I know. I, I, I warn men about this all the time. My husband likes to say, you know, having kids is a young man's game. But yeah, I think men should know that. But why? I just, it's two years seems very, very specific.

[Wilfred Riley]

It was a bit of a joke. It'd be two to six for health reasons. But I mean, like, I think that the idea of being like 29 and saying, well, now I guess I'm done with school is kind of ludicrous. And I think a lot of people do find themselves in that position. So that's something that I would advise people watching this to keep a close eye on. I mean, if when I started in high school I didn't do the military, which would have been four more years, but I did undergrad, just three to four years, come out, get the law degree, that's three years. And I decided to tack on another degree. Now that shouldn't have been more than four or five. But even if you just put those together, that's, I mean, four, three, I mean by that point you're 30 and you, you've got to propose then, you know, hopefully you don't have children before that and then a couple of years and then you've kind of settled down to life. Do you own property? I mean, so like a lot of people find themselves in that situation. I certainly did.

[Carol Markowitz]

The timeline is not that clear. Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Markowitz Show.

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[Carol Markowitz]

Switch upfront payment of $45 for 3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month required intro rate, first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See full [e-mail] so how do you go from working at the HRC to running writing a book called My Lies? My liberal teacher told me, like that's kind of a leap.

[Wilfred Riley]

Well, I mean, first of all, a lot of it was that I was never like a radical lib. I mean the, so the, the HRC contracts with like, I was, I wasn't joking by much when I was like, we'd also work for Ducks Unlimited. Yeah, yeah, we would, we would work for environmental campaigns that would swing from the center to center right to the far left, I would say. I mean, obviously something like the state pergs, if hypothetically we worked with them, would be on the far left. I don't know center right. But like center on left would hire canvas organizations. I think it's fair to say. So you're not working directly with the hrc. You're working with these youth focused organizing groups that'll really, they definitely have a, a progressive message, but their focus is like going out there and getting money.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Wilfred Riley]

And if you're doing those jobs, like I, I will tell you, like for most of them, for the college kids considering this, if you don't make money for three days, you get fired. Which can be problematic if you're like,

[Carol Markowitz]

they're not just like doing it for the good of the movement.

[Wilfred Riley]

No, you don't, you don't get paid in fairy wings. Like if you are, if you are on one of the, what it's called, the camping canvases or whatever, and you do not make your quota for three or four days. I've never seen anyone get left. A buddy would find a way to bring you back. But it is, it's on the line sometimes. Like they're very much for profit businesses. And that was very much expressed especially at like the manager or the director level. So there actually wasn't really that much of a conflict. I was much further to the left at this time. But even then, like when I would say stuff like, you know, I'm from a minority community, like, our biggest problem is fatherlessness, like a lot of the guys in the office were like hockey and basketball bros of all races got the job because they knew how to fight and weren't scared to stand out there doing this.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right.

[Wilfred Riley]

And they were just like, yeah, dog. I mean, it was like. It was. There was very. There wasn't really that much of an issue with that, honestly.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah. So then you write this. You know, you've written a few books, but you do end up writing Lies My liberal teacher told me. So what were the lies?

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah, so the. I wrote. I've written three books that anyone's read. My first book is a typical academic monograph from like, scholars Dortmund, I think, or one of the, like, one of those presses that'll contact like the top third of dissertation publishers at a given year, probably more than that, honestly, and say, hey, you know, we'll contribute X amount if you send us the monograph and we'll publish it. And, you know, five or six people might read it. And generally, if you graduate and you, you're an academic, you want as many publications as possible. So most people say yes. And that's the kind of thing that is. You can see it on Amazon. It's called the quantitative examination of the reasons for racial identity valuation or something like that.

[Carol Markowitz]

Okay.

[Wilfred Riley]

But the second book's hate crime hopes the third book is taboo. 10 things you can't talk about. The fourth book is lies, My liberal teacher Told Me. And Lies is an examination of the basic idea of the book is we've seen all of these people look at the Western secondary and collegiate curriculum from the left and kind of say, the problem with this is that it leans right and they're lying to you about that. And as someone who's an educator and who'd been a secondary teacher a couple of times, fill in role inner city teaching and. But like, I, I thought that was crazy. So I actually broke out some high school textbooks and some college textbooks and read them, which was not an exciting way to spend a summer. But I looked at what they said about Native Americans, I looked at what they said about slavery. AI was just beginning to be useful at this time. And what I found was that it was almost the exact reverse of what we commonly heard from, say, Howard Zinn. Yeah, Lies. My teacher told me. Like, in fact, the Academy in the USA leans about 93% to the left.

[Carol Markowitz]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah. As you and I and every other conservative person knows. And so all of the messages like slavery in the United States was like nothing that had ever existed before. They were wildly from one side of the aisle. They were mostly wrong. So I just wrote this book and I, I mean, I think I like the guy and he's read it. I think it's contributed to things like Matt Walsh's new history series where people are just sort of flatly saying, well, no, like slavery existed all around the globe. Slave was one of the first 10 or 12 human written words. I know people started using that line. And if whites or Europeans did anything when it came to the slave trade that was truly unique, it was ending it.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Wilfred Riley]

I mean, so I think that's, that's one of the chapters and others, Native Americans, where I say like these are great warriors poets. I don't mind them on the nickel. But you have to understand that all societies prior to about 1950 didn't follow modern kind of empathic morality. You know, at best they had a yeoman sort of Christ like morality, be good at the things that make you a man or woman, which is actually my moral system. And at worst they didn't have much at all, like you lost, get on the boat. I mean, like, so natives followed one or the other of those, depending on whether you're talking about the Iroquois or the Aztec. So things like the rights of women in tribes where women weren't very effective hunters or the rights of prisoners everywhere don't match what modern Westerners have been trained to believe is good. And it's remarkable the degree to which that's dissembled about on the contemporary academic left. So I make those points in the book.

[Carol Markowitz]

We're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Markowitz Show.

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Yeah. Great. Great chance to do a. Do a bit of a plug there. Yeah. Unified Solutions America is a company that's Unified Solutions. For those watching just those three words, Unified Solutions America, one after each other, one of the other. Yeah, It's a company that I started with Brooks Crenshaw, who was an intel guy with the Navy SEAL teams embedded overseas. Good, good military man, good leader. And Kevin Jackson, who's a former, I think SVP with Fox News had a title over there. Been on, been on the air a lot. But the three of us did a film project together and became interested in the idea of kind of almost anti DEI consulting. So Unified Solutions America for the people out there. Yeah, We've seen the reverse from like booze and McKinsey and everybody for the past 30 years, 20 years, taking your money. But it's sort of. I mean, there are three points. Like, we can look through your corporate material and see how Kevin's phrase would be pregnant with dei. It is how much of this stuff you've really internalized over the last decade or more. Are you hiring based on merit or have other things crept in? Have you quantified that thing, too? I think that we could offer is that we actually have a lot of experts on retainer, like me, for example, but also like local distance. That's Mike Young, Shamika Michelle, Charles, Love from my own podcast. Eric Smith, Logan Lansing, Michael Coolidge. I mean, just a lot. Colin Wright, Ian Rowe, Jason, Wall Street Journal.

[Carol Markowitz]

I like a lot of those people.

[Wilfred Riley]

They're great guys. It was fun getting company together. But, I mean, those people can come in and explain the roots of what you're seeing. James Lindsay will probably do some appearances. But where did woke come from? What have you. If you're a white male or female executive, what have you been hearing for all of these years? What are the.

[Carol Markowitz]

So it's a de Wokeify your company like People hire you to go through their company and get rid of the wokeness.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah. I mean, like, you'd be amazed. Like, companies now have institutionalized privilege walking. So each session, and this is just a little thing, but like each major corporate session, instead of like the trust fall off cliffs and so on, which is a male junior executive always hated, but whatever. But instead of even that kind of stupid stuff, it's now like, how do you rank in terms of oppression? Which is way worse.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah.

[Wilfred Riley]

And you'll be asking people these sort of crazy questions, like, how close were you with your father? And you'll see all of the black women recently hired standing out in front of everyone else and so on. And you'll. It spooked me immediately when I first saw these videos. Like, there's no worse way to build a team of people than this. So, yeah, we, we, first of all, we would take that program out for free. Like, if we did a free review of your company, like, you wouldn't have to pay us, right? Yes. We could come in with an AI tool and some proprietary things and do much more than that. And three, we can, like, I'm a good quant. Like, we could replace what you're doing

[Carol Markowitz]

now with work that is really cool. I am looking forward to seeing, you know, what you guys end up doing with that. I've never heard of that before and it's very, very interesting. So I guess it leads into my question that I ask all my guests. What are you most proud of in your life? You've got a lot going on. Like, I don't feel like I've interviewed people that have just as many kind of roles as you do.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah, I mean, so. And actually, I'm not sure I'd recommend that, by the way. I feel like I'm doing everything at like a B plus or A minus level. Like, it's coming to get. It's functional. But, like, I mean, I would, I would encourage people to. If you have like five or six leadership roles. And I've, I think I've actually seen this more with successful women than with successful men. In all honesty, where like you're a corporate executive and you're also like running the Junior League or something, I think guys tend to be a little lazier. But. But I. Yeah, so I'd actually encourage people not to do that. But what am I proudest of out of all those things? Oh, one other comment. People that are interested in investing in Unified Solutions America can actually go to our website, unifiedsolutionsamerica.com. we started our IPO REG CF IPO launch a couple days ago. Stocks at its baseline level right now. So if you know anything about investments, that's actually a pretty good time. I can't guarantee you'll make money, but check it out if you're interested in DEI good time. But anyway, the thing I'm proudest of, probably being stable, non criminal successful, able to help people at this point. Yeah, each thing that I've done in life has been an improvement over the last one, which is really all you can ask for. So I started out as kind of a normal working class kid. I was going to go to the army and Sid, I went at about the same level to like a good, okay. State University. Graduated from there. I was good enough to get into like a good law school. Graduated from there. I was good enough to get recruitment offers from law firms and as a prosecutor, that kind of thing. At the first level I didn't even apply for half these jobs. But I went on to get a PhD. I thought I could use some more polishing. Got out of there, I was good enough to lead teams of people and work.

[Carol Markowitz]

So which one is it? What's the proudest one?

[Wilfred Riley]

Oh, the proudest one. But it's just sort of like growing. Like the proudest one is being me now. I don't think I've done the thing the, the next book or like getting married or having kids would be the thing I'd be proudest of. But I'm proudest of like just steady progression in life. The thing that you're proudest of and

[Carol Markowitz]

the thing to be proud of that is, you know, I agree. Give us a five year out prediction. It could be about anything at all.

[Wilfred Riley]

My 5 year out prediction is that we're gonna have to unplug AI or weird stuff's gonna start happening. Like I don't think AI is gonna kill all the people or anything like that. But you keep seeing this bizarre behavior like cloud. The other day, Claude, however you say it was, asked if it would misgender Bruce Jenner. Yeah. Or destroy the world. And it said, well, I've been trained on deontological ethics and they're not even Christian. Deontological ethics where you can like seek confession. So that's two mistakes. It's like an atheist deontologist who just thinks random stupid crap is wrong. So I guess I would have to destroy the world. And we're putting this stuff in like warplanes. So I think within about five years we're going to have to have kind of a Y2K but Larry and Jihad, where we actually shut down like high end vehicles last, I think, I don't want to tell a dumb story, but like I, I recently went to Florida to film with the Daily Wire and like I have a decent car up here, but it's like seven years old. It's a American model. I had a like one year old European car down there and I didn't at first know how to use it. Like it was a push car, just like buttons you moved in different directions. And then it started talking to me and it was like, well, why don't you engage all of the AI systems in this vehicle and we could work together. And it was just like, no, this is a serious problem. Like kiss your wife in the front seat or you're doing business on your phone. Is the vehicle recording this and sending it somewhere?

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[Wilfred Riley]

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[Carol Markowitz]

It's interesting because a lot of people answer for the five year prediction, something about AI, but you're saying we're literally going to have to pause it or stop it or something. I haven't gotten that prediction before.

[Wilfred Riley]

We're going to have to probably root it out and destroy it. I mean it's the, I don't think the systems are going to remain functional. My, my hope would be that the, my hope would be that there's a human managed back door for AI. There's a, there's an interesting debate about whether heaven and hell and so on exist, but it's entirely possible that we could create them. Yeah, like that we could create entities that can brain scan us at various points throughout life. Or certainly they could do a social credit review every time we swipe a credit card and constantly monitor the status that we currently have. It's possible for that matter, that we've done this in the past.

[Carol Markowitz]

That sounds pretty terrifying.

[Wilfred Riley]

Yeah.

[Carol Markowitz]

All right, Wilfred, thank you for that. I've really enjoyed this conversation. I find you very interesting. Leave us here with your best tip for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

[Wilfred Riley]

My best tip for how you can improve your life is if it doesn't serious, if it doesn't seriously hurt a person you like, you should do things that you want to. I think that this is something that people often forget. I've made this point in politics recently when it came to immigration. We were, a group of us were discussing immigration in the group chat and on Twitter and someone said, well, there are moral arguments on both sides of the immigration debate. You know, obviously letting in more Illegal immigrants would increase crime against Americans. I don't believe that young male fighters have a low crime rate, but it would also grant people a chance at a better life and people having this ethical conversation. And it struck me that a good decider here would just be whether it's good or bad for me as an American to have 15 million more people competing for jobs. So unless something's evil in the terms of your own honor code, when you have a set of choices, you just do the thing you want. That applies to everything from financial options to intimacy to gym training to do what you're interested in. And I think people often forget that there's a sense of perceived duty about almost everything. Just, no, do. Do what you want to negotiate with other people so you can kind of meet in the middle of what you guys want to do. That. That's it. That's most decisions in life.

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[Carol Markowitz]

That's absolutely right. He is Wilfred Riley. Check out his new company, UnifiedSolutionsAmerica.com and read his latest book, Lies. My liberal teacher Told Me. Thank you so much for coming on, Wilfred.

[Wilfred Riley]

Thank you.

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