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“The Truth with Lisa Boothe: ICE Agent Shooting in Minneapolis—Jonathan Fahey on Sanctuary Cities, Law Enforcement, and Political Backlash”

Date: January 8, 2026
Host: Lisa Boothe
Guest: Jonathan Fahey (Former Acting ICE Director)

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the chaotic aftermath of the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. Host Lisa Boothe and guest Jonathan Fahey analyze the incident from multiple angles—including video evidence, law enforcement procedure, political responses, and the role sanctuary cities play in these scenarios. The conversation probes the investigation process, public and political backlash, ongoing tensions between federal agents and “sanctuary” communities, and broader issues of law enforcement hostility in American politics.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Incident Breakdown: Minneapolis ICE Shooting

• Multiple video angles show Renee Good driving her vehicle toward an ICE agent.
  • Lisa Boothe: "[...] If you look at the front on, like the head-on angles, it really does look as if this woman was accelerating into the ICE agent. And if you're the ICE agent, I'm thinking I'm about to get [...] run over." (01:30)
• Fahey explains: Good was lawfully ordered out of her car, refused, and fled—driving towards an officer, forcing the agent into a split-second threat assessment.
  • Jonathan Fahey: "She was not free to leave in any respect. She was detained. [...] When she does that, she drives directly or almost directly at an officer." (02:13)
• Courts avoid second-guessing officers’ decisions when made under extreme stress.
  • Fahey: "Courts actually say we're not going to second guess officers because obviously... in hindsight it's always 2020." (02:54)
• Evidence points to the officer acting “legally justified” and consistent with training.

2. Investigation Process

• The FBI will conduct a thorough investigation, compiling videos, witness and officer statements, and reconstructing events.
  • Fahey: “The FBI will investigate this case and they're really good at these types of things. [...] Then, the Department of Justice decides if charges are warranted.” (05:03)
• Possible outcome: Expectation is the federal case will clear the agent, but political impetus could lead to potential (though likely unsuccessful) state charges for optics.
  • Fahey: "The state will probably try to charge him anyway [...] even if he's cleared federally." (05:40)
• Officer’s life: Now on leave, likely under intense scrutiny regardless of outcome.
  • Boothe: “This ICE officer’s life has now been turned upside down by... having to make the split-second decision.” (06:30)
• Key forensic detail: The bullet hit the windshield, supporting self-defense claims.
  • Fahey: "Where the bullet hit the car. It was in the front in the windshield. So... that means the person that fired the bullet... was in front and she was driving the car." (07:07)

3. Intent & Context: The Role of Intentions and Trends

• The officer could not have known Good’s intentions; actions are judged on perceived threat at the moment.
  • Fahey: “Even if her intentions were all good at that point, he probably, he was still justified.” (08:05)
• Pattern of vehicle-based attacks on ICE—99 incidents recently—with agents acutely aware of the dangers from past attacks and targeted training.
  • Fahey: “Cars have been used routinely as weapons against ICE officers. [...] I just saw... there were 99 of these car-related attacks.” (09:46)
• Details on agent’s background: The officer had previously been dragged by a vehicle, further validating his state of mind and split-second decision.

4. Political & Social Backlash

• Local and national leaders—such as Mayor Jacob Frey and Jimmy Kimmel—have sharply condemned ICE’s presence and actions, amplifying tensions.
  • Boothe: “We’ve had Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob Fry, say ICE, 'get the F out of Minneapolis,' which, you know, clearly is trying to incite.” (15:44)
  • Boothe: “Jimmy Kimmel saying... President Trump is ordering ICE to kill Americans.” (16:00)
• Massive ICE deployment: About 2,000 agents in Minneapolis—the largest in DHS history. Rationale: to enforce the law amidst sanctuary city resistance and combat Somali fraud.
  • Fahey: “I think it's necessary, particularly in places like Minnesota, Minneapolis, which are sanctuary cities... ICE is forced to be on the ground.” (16:37)

5. Sanctuary Cities & Crime

• Sanctuary policies prevent local law enforcement from cooperating with ICE, making targeted arrests on dangerous criminals “exponentially more difficult.”
  • Fahey: “If a city that's not a sanctuary city... ICE will send an agent... pick them up, process them [...] But if you have to do an arrest [on the street], you have to identify the person, find them, put together an entire arrest operation, which involves... higher degrees of danger." (20:03)
• Recent stats: 70% of deported people have criminal records or pending charges (according to DHS data cited by Boothe).
• Noted drop in crime since Trump took office, attributed by Fahey to renewed removal enforcement.

6. Hostility Toward Law Enforcement

• The “war on cops” is described as a decade-old phenomenon, now focused on federal law enforcement as well.
  • Fahey: “The less focus is more now just focused more on ICE. But they've always been—meaning in the last, you know, 10 plus years—anti law enforcement.” (21:42)
• Roots traced to identity politics and grievance-based narratives from the Obama era onwards.
• Impact: Communities suffer from negative fallout, while politicians capitalize—and no mainstream Democrats defend ICE or the enforcement mission.

7. ICE Agents: Who They Are

• Emphasizes the human side: ICE and Border Patrol agents are regular people motivated by community and public safety, routinely maligned by political rhetoric.
  • Fahey: "They should know these people are like all of our friends and neighbors. [...] I've known so many ICE agents, Border Patrol agents, FBI, local police. These are people that actually care about the community, want to make people safer." (24:30)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jonathan Fahey on the pressure of split-second decisions:
  "When you look at an officer having to make, I say split second, but it's, it's far less than a second decision to make." (02:54)
• Fahey on political responses:
  “It's way out of line, the way their first reaction is accuse the agent of murder and everything else. It just shows that their intent is to keep ramping this up, celebrate the obstruction.” (13:42)
• Fahey on anti-law enforcement rhetoric:
  “Something changed during the Obama administration. Everything became, you know, sort of this identity politics. All, everything is about a grievance. If you're... getting arrested for crimes, the cops must be the bad people.” (22:40)
• Fahey on ICE agents’ motivations:
  “They're good people, care about the community. They don't deserve to be maligned. And we all benefit from their work, and even the Democrats do.” (24:30)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Minneapolis shooting and video analysis: 01:30–04:54
• Investigation procedures and political interplay: 05:03–07:42
• Officer training, prior attacks, and car-as-weapon context: 07:42–11:39
• Federal backing and political atmosphere: 11:39–13:09
• Hostility toward ICE, media/political reactions: 13:42–15:44
• DHS deployment, sanctuary city complications: 16:37–20:03
• Sanctuary city logistics, apprehension challenges: 20:03–21:14
• Roots of anti-law enforcement sentiment: 21:42–24:08
• Who ICE agents really are: 24:30–25:35

Tone and Closing Thoughts

The episode is direct, urgent, and unapologetically pro-law enforcement, maintaining a critical tone toward progressive politicians and sanctuary policies. Lisa Boothe and Jonathan Fahey frequently express frustration over political narratives and call for public understanding of the pressures facing ICE and other law enforcement personnel.

Closing sentiment:
Jonathan Fahey and Lisa Boothe call for cooler heads to prevail, expressing hope for a thorough and fair investigation and greater public appreciation for law enforcement agents’ difficult positions.

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