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The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Inside the FBI: Nicole Parker EXPOSES Political Bias and Calls for Bureau Reform
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Nicole Parker
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Nicole Parker
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Lisa Booth
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today we're talking about the FBI. Former FBI Special Agent Nicole Parker. She walked away from the job that she loved because the bureau she had sworn to serve had started hunting patriots instead of predators. Her new book, the Two FBI's Names the Day it all went wrong. And the raid that killed her best friend while SWAT teams were terrorizing January 6th grandmas today. 0 Filter Comey's betrayal, the Catholic Memo, and what Cash Patel must do to change the FBI going forward. Stay tuned for Nicole Parker. Nicole, it's great to have you on the show, my friend. I'm so proud and excited for you with the launch of your new book, the Two FBI's. Have you gotten pushback from the FBI in writing the book or what's that been like?
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Nicole Parker
Well, I can tell you that I started writing the book under the Biden administration and so I was a bit nervous because the FBI does have to approve the book. And I know that there have been other agents that have written books under the Biden administration that were not exactly positive regarding the FBI and there was a lot of pushback for them. Thankfully, under the Trump administration, who can acknowledge the mistakes of the FBI? The process from headquarters has been seamless. I have been very grateful and blessed for that. As far as agents, FBI 1 and FBI 2 are completely two different FBI's, and that's what the premise of the book is about. So FBI one, I would consider the good agents doing hard work, upholding their constitutional oath in a fair and unbiased manner. And FBI 2 is the political and social weaponization of the FBI. That's what you're seeing in the Arctic Frost revelations coming out. So I can tell you FBI one agents and staff are celebrating this book because I'm sharing things that they all agree with that we all know is happening. But while you're at the FBI, you can't speak up, you can't say a word. FBI too, on the other hand, I'll be honest, I don't have a lot of friends that are from FBI too, so I haven't heard much pushback from them. But I'm sure that there will be pushback from FBI too, because I'm basically calling them out in a very direct manner.
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Lisa Booth
You know, you had mentioned Arctic Frost. What do we know so far and what do you. What does your gut tell you that happened and why it happened?
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Nicole Parker
I believe the Arctic Frost is really the tip of the iceberg. Nothing that's coming out is shocking to someone who actually lived and witnessed the political weaponization of the FBI. I know that's really sad to say. It's, it's shameful, it's disgraceful, it's despicable and disgusting, but it's not shocking. And that's exactly what drove me out of the agency. So what you're seeing is that exactly what I talk about in my book is exactly what was happening. The FBI was going full force, putting the full force of the federal government, conducting investigations and looking into individuals merely because of where they stood on the political spectrum. And we're seeing that they were getting toll records for senators. That's entirely inappropriate. What's the probable cause to believe that they committed the crime, to even have the right to get those subpoenas in the first place? And the fact that they worked with Jack Smith and his team, it started out of the WFO field office, and it just, it's destructive. And what they did was wrong. And it's blatantly on the American stage now. Everyone's seeing what we were seeing internally for years and under the Biden administration. It was so brazen, Lisa, like they had no shame in it. It got to the point where they weren't even trying to hide what they were doing, but what they did was they really looked at something like the election, the 2020 election, and tried to think of who could possibly, who could we go after an attack in this? And that's what they did. I mean, look, they went after Turning Point. I mean, really turning Point, Lisa. I wouldn't be shocked if they were looking into my personal records after I left the FBI and went on to Fox News. I mean, that's how disturbing it really is. And that is abuse of your law enforcement power to push your political agendas. And I pray that under this administration there is full accountability for those that were abusing their power. That is wrong. And that is the epitome of FBI, too. What Americans are seeing now is what we were seeing internally, but again, we could never discuss it publicly.
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Lisa Booth
You know, and obviously when you signed up for the FBI, you thought you were signing up for FBI one. You know, you were on Wall street when 9, 11 happened in front of you. What did you see that morning? And when did you decide to leave finance to join the FBI?
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Nicole Parker
The morning of September 11, 2001. I was barely 23 years old. I was working for Merrill lynch down at the World Financial Center. Every morning I would commute and go through the World Trade center to the Cortland street station on the Red Line. And I would literally get out subway, go through the underground mall through one World Trade center. And I would take the escalator up and cross over the, the footbridge into the World Financial Center. I was there when it happened. I had arrived at my desk about 7:45 that morning, and I saw the Entire thing unfold before my eyes. It was absolutely horrific, evil, and terrifying. I don't talk about it a lot, but I do mention it in my book because that was a moment. It was actually when I was leaving my building after the second plane hit the South Tower. There was a moment when I was in the elevator getting out of my building and escaping, wondering if my building was going to get hit next. I mean, we had no idea what was going on. And there was a moment that I just had this epiphany, and I thought, you know what? If I get out of this, I am going to one day go back and serve my country, and I want to serve others. I ended up staying on Wall street and working in finance. I stayed in New York for a number of years, and I went and worked for a hedge fund in Beverly Hills. But I just knew that there was something that I. There was that calling and that oath that I made to myself in that elevator that morning. I needed to make good on my promise to myself. And it was actually someone from Wall street. And they said, you know, maybe you should apply to the FBI. And so that was around 2009. And I literally just went to FBI.gov and I just started filling out the application to be a special agent. And that's how it started. And I started the application process in November. By July, I was given an academy date, and I was off to Quantico, August 1st of 2010.
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Lisa Booth
And what's that like, the process of becoming an FBI agent?
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Nicole Parker
It's intense. It's. Well, I can tell you that the FBI won back in the day. It was intense. Okay. When I joined, it was multiple phases of testing, which I talk about in my book, because believe it or not, that's probably one of the number one questions I get. What was the application process like? What led you to the FBI? So I speak about that. But there were multiple phases of testing, which I detail in the book. Phase one, you know, it's kind of like at the time, as a multiple choice, literally on a. On a Scantron, like what we did in high school. And then after that, if you get through that phase and you go into phase two, which is a live panel where you're questioned by a panel of three FBI agents. And then there's an additional writing sample investigation that you have to do. And then after that, you have to do physical fitness testing, mental testing. There's, you know, there's just various layers to it. It's very intense in the background checks. They're intense, and they need to be intense because they need to know who you are before signing you up to work for the federal government and giving you a top secret security clearance. Additionally, there's a polygraph, and I detail that because that polygraph is no joke. So it's a very intense background check. You know, they talk to everyone that you've basically ever met since you were a baby, is what it felt like. I mean, they're calling neighbors, friends of neighbors, friends, friends of friends. Just making sure that everything is checked and that there's no skeletons in your closet that they should be concerned about. That's how it was back then. And then I talk about how it changed drastically in order for the FBI to fill certain diversity quotas. It seemed that they were dropping the hiring standards. And that's not good, because when you're putting the safety of Americans on the line, you need to have the most qualified individuals doing that job, regardless of their race, gender, you know, any of those items that the FBI started using, it really. It really hurt the hiring process of the FBI. And frankly, what that does is it actually hurts minorities more than anybody. Because as a female agent, Lisa, I was constantly having to prove I'm not a token female at the FBI. I'm here because I'm qualified. And so what they think they're doing and welcoming and including everyone. Look, I believe in including everyone that's qualified. I don't really care what you look like or where you're from. If you're qualified, you should get the job. But they changed it so drastically and they dropped the hiring standards to the point where you would look at someone who is a minority and you wondered if they were there. And that that upsets minorities who are qualified more than anybody. And being a woman, I detail a lot how I was there because I belonged there, but I was constantly having to prove that my spot here at the FBI is fully justified.
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Lisa Booth
You know, as you look at that 2016, James Comey's Hillary Clinton press conference. Is that the moment that the FBI became too political or what do you think, the turning point? And when did it become FBI, too?
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Nicole Parker
So some will say it's always been FBI too, since Hoover. But I'm talking from my experience at the FBI. I don't agree with that statement. I think the FBI does amazing and solid work. But for me, I joined in 2010, and the defining moment when I realized and saw FBI2 was July 5th of 2016, when James Comey held that press conference in front of the American people, and he said that no Reasonable prosecutor would charge Hillary Clinton basically for the mishandling of classified materials. That was stunning to us. It was kind of like the 911 moment for the FBI. We all remember where we were, what we were doing. I remember I was in my boss's office with other agents and we were livid because he basically laid out and read an indictment on Hillary Clinton and then at the end basically said, but no one's going to charge this. And it showed us, number one, we are a political pawn now. Certain rules only apply to certain people. And there was this pattern that started then that if you were on the Democratic, liberal or progressive side of the spectrum, you basically got a pass from the FBI. And on the flip side, right after that, they pivoted from the Hillary Clinton investigation. And again, this is all coming out in arctic frost. And I know people that have looked at this investigation, I know people that were on the Hillary Clinton investigation. This is a fact. They literally had enough to potentially charge her and they were told, don't look there, we need to pivot right now to this Russia collusion thing. And we believe that members of Trump's campaign are working for Russia. That genuinely, truly, literally happened. There was no exaggeration. And so that's when I saw the political weaponization on a grand, grand scale. It was, it was disgusting, it's wrong. And sadly, no one ever stopped it.
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Lisa Booth
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Lisa Booth
How much sway does a president have in this? Because I know the FBI is supposed to be independent, but you look under former President Obama and obviously there's revelations about his role in Russiagate and the Russia hoax against President Trump and the weaponization of the government against him. And then we look at the Biden administration as well, and you know, you look at a SWAT team going to, in an unprecedented way, going to Mar a Lago, going after, you know, President Trump. Or, you know, you look at the SWAT teams being sent out for January six misdemeanor arrests. How much of that was influenced by, you know, President Trump and President Biden or, sorry, President Obama and President Biden.
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Nicole Parker
Okay, so let me tell you how it should be. It should be independent. Of course. Sadly, it was not. It absolutely was not. And I can tell you that under for Instance, as an example, you may. You just named several, but I'll just hit on one. For instance, January 6th, that was basically the Biden administration going after their political opponents and people that they wanted to attack. If you were Trump or a Trump supporter, you were there at the Capitol. I mean, Lisa, we're talking about grandmas that walked inside the Capitol with their cell phone and took a picture and they get the full force of the federal government on them with a swap visit. Okay? That's disgusting. That's an abuse of power. On the flip side, during the same time frame, my best friend, Special Agent Laura Schwarzenberger, was executing a search warrant for one of the most violent offenders in the country, child pedophiles. There was no SWAT for her, okay? So the FBI nationwide was like, make sure, no matter what, if it's January 6th, we're going to put SWAT on them. That is wrong. That was political intimidation. That was to scare people and say, look, if you mess with us or you do this, we're going to come after you. And let me also make an important point. The FBI has never been in the business of charging misdemeanors, okay? There are very few agents. We have very few resources. I mean, if you think about it, only 13,000 agents in the entire world. We don't have time to be focusing on misdemeanors. The FBI should be focusing on the most complex and important cases affecting Americans. But what the Biden administration did was they made January 6th look like it was a huge domestic terrorism threat. It was operated out of wfo, the Washington field office and headquarters, and they basically pushed multiple cases to all these different field offices where there were even attendees that went to January6. We're talking nonviolent offenders. And so they made it look like it was this huge national problem, when in reality, it was one isolated day where there were certain individuals. I agree they should have been charged to the fullest extent of the law. I have no tolerance for violence. But the vast majority were not violent. They were misdemeanors. But the Biden administration and Merrick Garland said, we're going full throttle. You don't even want to know. It was disgusting. On the one year anniversary, Merrick Garland. And again, this is an internal town hall. He gets on this town hall with all DOJ employees, which includes the FBI, touting, you know, we are doing such a phenomenal job on January 6th. This is the largest ever investigation in DOJ history. As a witness to the 9, 11 terrorist attacks. That's insulting. So you're telling me that January 6th was more dangerous and detrimental to our country than 9 11. I mean, that's literally how they viewed it. It was despicable. It was disgusting. And even in the FBI Miami field office where I worked, upper level management would literally be going around to the different squads. You know, we got to keep pushing January 6th. We got to keep going. We got to go full throttle. It was literal. Like, this was no exaggeration. This was happening. And there were individuals I heard with my own ears saying, I would love to go after those Trump supporters. Put me on it. It's disgusting. And then they were sending agents up to the Washington field office for what we call these TDYs. Do you know how much money that costs the taxpayers? Millions. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars that they spent on this for nonsense. It wasn't a true threat to America. But that is an example of what this administration and FBI 2 did. And the sad part is so many agents from FBI 2 willingly went along, and you're seeing it in Arctic Frost as well. Willingly went along. They embraced this opportunity. They relished in the opportunity. And yeah, FBI want agents like myself and my best friend who was killed. And it's very powerful. It's in the book. We made a vow to each other the day before she was killed. She's like, I will never do a politically motivated investigation. Even if the FBI asked me to, I will not do it. And if they want to fire me, they can. If they're going to take me down, they can take me down from my morals, because I will not do it. And I said, I'm not going to do it either. And so there were FBI one agents holding the line and saying, no, I'm not going to do that. But yet the FBI, too, they gladly went after Trump, Trump supporters, and all of it's going to come out, you.
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Lisa Booth
Know, and I know that, you know, the use of SWAT teams to go after January six misdemeanor arrest and that kind of abuse. The frustration with that is underscored by, you know, you mentioned your, your best friend Laura Schwarzenberger and Daniel Alphin were killed while executing a child Predator warrant with no SWAT support.
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Nicole Parker
That's disgusting. And you know what? The FBI, they didn't even address it after it happened, Lisa. It was as if it never occurred. You know, we had this memorial service. The FBI wouldn't even pay for their memorial services. They wouldn't even pay for that. But you're willing to spend millions of doll. January 6th. But you're not going to pay for the memorial services of two agents doing the noblest work in the FBI, in my opinion. Vcac, we call it violent crimes against children. That is God's work. You're protecting the most vulnerable. And they, they couldn't even be bothered. They didn't even tell us what happened. Lisa I went to my management in FBI Miami. I said, when are we going to get an After Action review is what we call it. I want an after Action Review. I want to understand what happened to my friend that morning. Why did this happen? What, what were the mistakes? Do you know what they told me? We're not prepared to hear about it yet, so we're not going to talk about it. Excuse me. We have two dead agents, three others that were shot, and we're not going to talk about it. But yet every day I get 50 emails about diversity in my inbox. Please, let's start focusing on the real work at the FBI. I didn't come here to be a social justice warrior. I want to know what happened. They shoved it under the rug. Christopher Wray never held an After Action Review for the FBI in my time there. And it just was one thing after another. The last chapter of my book, I literally had to do a table of contents within the chapter because it was so many things. And they just drove me out of the agency, FBI 2, in full force. It got to the point I didn't even recognize the FBI. I'd walk into the office and you felt like you were in the twilight Zone. And I make a joke in the book, it's actually not funny. But we weren't shot. We were like, we wouldn't be shocked if the FBI had our voter roll records and knew even what agents voted for President Trump. They weren't just going after people outside of the FBI internally. We felt like we were targeted if we were conservatives inside the agency as well.
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Lisa Booth
What percentage of the FBI is liberal? And how much do FBI agents wear sort of their politics on their sleeve?
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Nicole Parker
So I shouldn't even know what percentage. I don't know if that's the best question to ask because I don't. I. I mean, it's a good question to ask. I don't know that I have the best answer. I can only break it down in my opinion. From FBI 1. FBI 2. And again, that's not necessarily based on party lines. It's just based on do you uphold the law in a fair and unbiased manner or do you not? And I've talked to a lot of agents. And we think originally, starting when we started seeing FBI to creep in, we would probably say it was like 30% FBI to 70% FBI one. By the time I left, agents literally were like, we think it's flip flopped. Like, it's probably more like 5050 or 60 FBI to 40 FBI one. And even now I'm in touch with agents and they're, they're a little surprised to hear how many people are just so upset by what's happening under the Trump administration. I mean, FBI too, they're losing their minds. What the Trump administration is doing is they're equally upholding and enforcing the law. And that is what they should have been doing all along. And so all these individuals in the media that are coming out and saying, oh, you know, Trump's, this is political retribution. He's just going after Comey and all these people, not political retribution. They're just not accustomed to equal enforcement of the law. Jim Comey should have been looked at years ago, but he had the protective cover of, of the DOJ buddies of his and all of these other individuals that the statute of limitation for a lot of the charges that could have potentially come has expired. But there does need to be accountability, Lisa, because if there's no tangible consequences, the cycle continues.
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Lisa Booth
You know, when you look at some things that happen under the Biden administration, Mark Hauck, agents raiding his home with rifles, this pro life Catholic father, or you look at the Catholic memo targeting, you know, traditional Catholics, it would seem like there's some sort of like anti Catholic or anti religious bias within the FBI.
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Nicole Parker
You know, that's, that's a really good point because, and I talk about at the beginning of my book, that actually used to be embraced. Look, the FBI doesn't, you know, talk about and encourage religion even back in the day, okay, like separation of church and state, I respect that. But the types of morals that a lot of Christians, religious people, you know, Jews, whatever your religious persuasion may be, or your spiritual persuasion that used to be embraced by the FBI, okay, they want people of high moral standards, things of that sort. And so it seemed like they were definitely shunning that again at the end. And again, the COVID vaccine, you named some of the important elements that would indicate that they were not exactly pro religion. The COVID vaccine. For a lot of people, they had closely held religious beliefs and they were submitting to be exempted from the COVID vaccine. And a lot of those people got targeted. They got, I personally, I never got the COVID vaccine. I have never Even drank alcohol in my entire life. You think I'm going to put this unapproved vaccine into my system when I'm perfectly healthy? By the way, I never got Covid. I never had an issue. I never got sick once. So I'm very blessed by that. But they used, for instance, the COVID vaccine and people that had closely held religious beliefs to go after them and attack and retaliated against them. And so you name the Mark Hauck situation, the Catholic Memo. And so it seemed that the FBI was all about diversity and embracing everyone. No, it was only if you are embracing liberal and progressive movements under the Biden administration. They had no problem embracing that. And again, I respect everyone. Do what you want, but there's no place for that in the office. Just come and do your job. The other thing that really was a personal level of disturbance for me. We've talked about my friend Laura. She was a very devout Catholic. They came to me after she was killed, our Office of Public affairs from headquarters and said, you know, we understand that y' all are very close. Would you mind doing an interview with us and giving some information about her? I did. And one of the key elements in her life and focal points of her life was that she was a devout Catholic. I shared that with them, and I said it was her Catholic faith that allowed her to overcome the darkness that she was involved in while doing these most difficult crimes to investigate. You know, hurting children, crimes against children, child trafficking. I got a draft of what they intended to publish. They took out the entire section about her being a devout Catholic. I was livid because that's who she is. In essence, they were trying to cancel her faith in her death. And I went back to the guy from Public affairs, and I made a decision, and I said, if you don't put that back in, I don't want my name in your article. I don't want anything that I gave you included in the article. Basically, you put that back in, or I want no participation in your article. And he came back, and I'll never forget, he's like, I really appreciate your candor. That's an FBI word that we use, candor. And I thought, you don't appreciate my candor at all, and I really don't care. But we're not going to cancel my friend and her religious faith in her death. You're going to put it in there. Thankfully, he did put it back in there, but that's the kind of stuff that we were dealing with on a daily basis there. But yet, if you're a progressive liberal and you have all these other things. They were all about diversity and inclusion, but it was only if it fit their narrative. They weren't. They were inclusive of people of faith. No, at the end they definitely were not.
- [29:53]
Lisa Booth
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- [32:51]
Lisa Booth
How many times are field offices and field agents at odds with leadership? You know, you look at something like the Hunter Biden laptop, you know, I assume most people in like field offices and you know, non leaders in the, or not, you know, not people in sort of like the, you know, like comey type position, the FBI agent or director would know that, like it wasn't. Or that it was real and it wasn't Russian disinformation. Like how many times do agents find themselves at odds with leadership?
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Nicole Parker
Okay, again, I think it's really. When is FBI1 at odds with FBI2 leadership? That's, look, FBI1 at the end it was, it was quite often FBI1 and FBI2 really were at odds with each other a lot. The right at Mar A Lago is a perfect example. FBI 2 Again, headquarters in WFO, that was their idea. And we're seeing it all in Arctic Frost. Okay, that was coming from the top. They were forcing it and pushing it down to the field office in Miami because that's where President Trump resided in West Palm beach, which is in the West Palm Beach R.A. of the FBI Miami Division. There were FBI One agents on the ground level that were told, okay, we're going to need your help. We've got these agents coming down from D.C. and FBI one agents are like, look, I want no part of that. Like, I'm not going. I want no part of it. I know for a fact that the deputy director at the time, even I have to give credit, even the head of the WFO field office told him and it's in the book, I don't think this is a good idea for us to do this raid. It's not going to be a good look. We've already taken so much backlash. This is not good. The deputy director and the legal folks at the top at the FBI were like, we're trumping you and we're going to do it. And I said, no, we are doing this. So there was a lot of being at odds When I left, I would say there was a lot of friction between FBI 2 leadership and FBI 1 on the ground level. And I can't say that all leadership in the FBI is FBI too, but I would say the majority is because these are people that are so they're more concerned about moving up the ladder at the bureau than they are about doing the right thing for the American people. That's the epitome of FBI2 management, ego, self serving arrogance. But yeah, I would say there was a lot of moments where they were at odds.
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Lisa Booth
You know, how do you think FBI Director Kash Patel is doing so far? Has he made enough changes within the FBI?
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Nicole Parker
I have to say that he has a thankless job. It's a difficult job. I don't envy him because he walked into an absolute disaster zone. I know he's working tirelessly day and night. He part of the thing is when you come into the agency and you haven't been at the agency before, first you have to just learn the dynamic of the agency. That takes time to get up to speed. He needs to know who he can trust. What I think he's doing now and has been doing I think a phenomenal job at is learning who is FBI1 and who is FBI2. And a lot of FBI2, it's coming to light with these investigations with Arctic Frost. He's seeing the squad that he had to dismantle out of wfo, seeing that they were the problem squad that initiated a lot of this. He's identifying where a lot of these problems are. He's got a very difficult task on his plate because he has to obliterate FBI2 while simultaneously build up the morale of FBI1. That has been lacking for years because FBI1 completely felt bulldozed and forgotten under the last administration. So it's a very fine balancing act. You got to take down FBI 2 while you build up FBI 1. You hear them all the time, let good cops be good cops. And I have to say, I mean, I've had conversations with him. He's very open minded, he listens. And I know there's a lot of criticism from people that are like, you know, why haven't we seen this? Why haven't we seen that? But I can tell you that behind the scenes there's a lot of movement going on. And legally it's. I talk about this in the book. FBI too pretty much knew that they were untouchable because legally it's hard to fire someone from the federal government. It really is. And so that's A shame, because whether you are a corrupt person at the FBI or you're a lazy FBI too, includes all the lazy agents and staff as well. A lot of times they know they're untouchable, so they're like, look, I can do whatever I want. I'm not going to get fired. And so now it's a new sheriff in town is like, actually there is going to be accountability. And many people at the FBI aren't accustomed to that. So FBI too, they're losing their minds under Cash Patel. And I know it's going to take time. It takes time. We need to be patient. But I think he's moving pretty quickly with everything that he's been given. And again, at the government, things tend to move very slow. Not under the Trump administration. Trump's going full speed, full throttle. And if you're any part of his administration, you better be ready to run because that's how they roll. And I have to say, I think he's doing a great job with what he's been given, but it is going to take time.
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Lisa Booth
Do you think that the FBI under Cash Patel, that they have gotten back to prioritizing core missions?
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Nicole Parker
I do think that they have certainly gotten back to a lot of things that they should have been doing a long time ago. The FBI was doing these amazing things and they went off the rails. So I'll give you an example. All of the January 6th resources were immediately cut, done. That is now over. The four year investigation of January 6th, he redistributed that to doing foreign terrorist organization. I'm sure that you just heard about the Halloween foil plot that was stopped. Those are the types of things we want to see our FBI doing. And with Biden having had the open border for four years, you have no idea how many terrorists could be lingering in our country because they were just allowed to freely walk in. So I appreciate and respect that he is focusing back on foreign terrorist organization groups with a vengeance. That's amazing. The violent crime focus. It does matter. Americans want to feel safe in their individual cities and they are obliterating violent crime in many of these cities. They're sending task force officers or task forces in doing a lot of good work. The violent crimes against children. I'm getting a lot of positive feedback from my friends who work that violation. So they're getting back to, I believe, what the core mission of the FBI should be. They've taken out DEI completely. I talk about that in my book a lot because it became a focus. So I have to say I Do think that he is getting back to what the FBI should be doing. And again, we got to be patient. It takes time. I know a lot of people, you know, at the beginning there was a lot of immigration movement and people helping with immigration, and they still continue to help with the, you know, immigration issue that has been mandated by the American people by electing President Trump. But I think also he's saying, look, we can't do every, you know, we've got to put our resources where the FBI works best. Cyber intrusions, the Chinese threat. I think he really is trying to focus. But, Lisa, the FBI's responsibilities is so wide ranging that you can't be wasting resources on things that don't matter. And that's what the Biden administration did. And he's getting it back on track, I think.
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Lisa Booth
Do you think the FBI and the Department of Justice should release information relating to Jeffrey Epstein? You know, why do you think they haven't?
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Nicole Parker
That's a great question. The Epstein case started actually in FBI Miami back under Acosta when He was the U.S. attorney. And I think a lot of people don't know the background story of how some deals were cut back then. But a lot of the information that Americans want to see is protected by court order. And it's not up to DOJ or FBI to release those records. That's actually up to judges. And so their hands are tied on certain details that can be released. But I know that they are. Look, I know Pam Bondi and I know that she is trying to be as transparent as possible to give as much as she can. So you're dealing with very delicate. It's very delicate. Anytime it's a violation of that sort. The victims have all rights, and you've got to protect your victims at all costs. They have those legal rights and additionally, court orders, they can't trump a court order when a judge says, no, we're going to keep this sealed. So I have not seen the Epstein file, but I do know agents back in the day that were very familiar with it in FBI Miami. And that was a disaster from the get go. And that dates all the way back to, you know, 2007, like we're talking a long time ago. And that case is, you know, Epstein's a disgraceful. He was a disgraceful human being, as was Maxwell. But I understand the frustration, but yet I think that they're doing what they can, but their hands are definitely tied in certain aspects.
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Lisa Booth
You know, before we go, you know, you did resign from the FBI. Would you tell young People to join the FBI or sort of. What? Like, what is your sentiment today?
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Nicole Parker
That's a great question. I actually get asked that by a lot of people. People always say, oh, do you mind talking to my son or my daughter? You know, they're considering applying to the FBI. I'll be blunt. In the Biden administration, I said don't, don't apply. And it really does. Now I'm learning that the administration does set the tone for the priorities of the FBI, even though it should be completely independent. Because I saw what the Biden administration, Obama administration did do it and completely, and frankly, the Trump administration, Trump. It wasn't Trump. It was that Trump put people into positions that he trusted and they like Christopher Wray. He was a horrible director. But President Trump trusted Chris Christie's recommendation. I mean, why would he not, right? Trump knows who we can trust now. And that's the good thing about the second administration is he knows exactly who he can trust. He got screwed over in his first administration, but he's doing a phenomenal job. I think he's put the right people in there and I think it is important that good people apply to the FBI. I do strongly recommend it. And that's why this book, if you're looking to apply, read about FBI1. And if you're going to apply, make a vow to yourself that you're going to be FBI1. That's what we need. We don't need two FBI's, we need FBI1 to be FBI1, to be the only FBI. FBI2 needs to be completely wiped away. So, yes, I would recommend it to those that want to do good work for the American people. Work hard. You're going to work hard. If you're a good agent, you're going to be working long hours. Expect that. And be honest. Have integrity, do the right thing for the right reasons, the proper motivations. So for me, that's what made it difficult to walk away. Lisa it wasn't easy to get in and I worked so hard. You read about the, I call it the Quantico Crucible. It was difficult for me to get through that firearms training at Quantico. I made it through finally. It was, you know, I passed every single time for over 50 qualifications after that. But it was difficult to walk away because I loved what I was doing. When things were good, it was, it wasn't a job. It was like a passion and it was a mission. And I really felt like what I did mattered. So I would highly recommend it. It's a very fulfilling job. It's difficult, but it is worth it.
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Lisa Booth
Nicole Parker, former FBI special agent and new Author of the two FBIs the Bravery and Betrayal. I saw my time at the Bureau. Nicole Parker, thanks for coming on, my friend. I appreciate the honesty.
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Nicole Parker
Thank you, Lisa. God bless.
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Lisa Booth
That was Nicole Parker. Appreciate her for coming on the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I also want to thank John Casio, my producer, for putting the show together. Until next time.
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