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The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Inside the Protest Industrial Complex: How Billionaires and Foreign Interests Fund America’s Radical Left
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Lisa Booth
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Lisa Booth
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
The issues that matter to you. Today we're joined by Seamus Bruner. He is the director of research at the Government Accountability Institute. We've also had him on the podcast to talk about his book Control the Guards. But he was recently at the White House roundtable to talk about Antifa, to talk about the funding into some of these left wing groups, which is his specialty. Now we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars that have gone to some of these left wing groups, these Antifa linked groups as well. He's also identified some billionaire funders whose name might not be as familiar to you. This individual, Novelle Roy Singham, who allegedly has ties to the ccp. So we're going to dig into all of this. Who's funding all of this? Why are they funding it? And now that we know the Trump administration is doing a whole government approach to dig into the funding and also to disrupt some of these groups like Antifa, where is this all heading? What will they find? Watch Seamus Bruner about that and so much more. Stay with us. Well, Seamus Bruner, it's great to have.
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Lisa Booth
You on the show.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
I'm really looking forward to this episode and hearing from you. You know, obviously there's been a lot of talk about Antifa lately and trying to get into the root of a lot of this leftist funding. And you're the guy to ask those questions too. So appreciate you making the time.
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Seamus Bruner
Lisa, it's always a pleasure to join you on the show.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
There were some recently, some news articles kind of focusing on what you guys discussed at this roundtable with the White House that we'll dive into.
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Lisa Booth
But it seems like some of these.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Left wing groups are starting to panic a little bit as a result of some of the research that you've done and you've put forward. And now the White House has heightened attention to it. You know, talk about that, talk about the panic and talk a little bit about some of this breaking news that has come forward.
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Seamus Bruner
Yeah, sure. So when President Trump posted, it would be a couple of months ago actually that George Soros and his son should be investigated under rico. This was before the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And that's really around the time that this all starts. I mean, there had been a no Kings protest back in June. There had been a bunch of anti ice riots all throughout, you know, ever since Trump was inaugurated out in Los Angeles across the country, fires, arsons, et cetera. And so there's been kind of just this culture of unrest that the left has been fomenting. And we've been following the money to see who is backing this. So back when LA was experiencing its anti ice day of rage, we found that Neville Roy Singham, this foreign billionaire who lives in China, who has been funding unrest going back to BLM and all kinds of division in our country, he had been funding some of the groups out in L. A. And so we just have been, we've been tracking it for several months in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination. We have been just alarmed at the number of people who are celebrating and sort of just this condoning of violence against political targets. And so that is really what kicked off Trump designating ANTIFA as a domestic terror organization. And then after President Trump made that designation, he called together this White House roundtable about two weeks back. And so it was a number of journalists, many of them who have been on the front lines face to face with antifa, Andy Ngo, Julio Rosa, Savannah Hernandez and so many others who have been actually physically assaulted, attacked, brutally attacked. And I was kind of the one guy there who. I've not been beaten up by Antifa, thankfully.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
That's good. Let's keep it that way.
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Seamus Bruner
I would like to keep it that way.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Let's keep it that way.
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Seamus Bruner
But I was the follow the money guy. And what I said to President Trump in the Cabinet was that we've tracked this money to what we call the protest industrial complex. We call it Riot Inc. And like many corporations, Riot Inc. Has many divisions. It's got the boots on the ground division, but it also has a PR division and a communications division. It also has a very well funded legal division that helps get these violent criminals out of jail as soon as possible back onto the streets. Things like the bail funds that instantly get, I mean, basically overnight people have committed violent crimes, are then back out on the streets the next day to attack our law enforcement officials. So the thing that we are focusing on the most are the investors in rioting. So we followed the money to the top of the big NGO funding networks. I mean, yes, of course, George Soros and the Open Society Institutes are our major funders. There's also lesser known funding networks like the Arabella Network, the Tides Network. I mentioned Singham. He's got a huge protest funding mechanism called the People's Forum, it's in New York. And then there's a few others. Rockefeller, of course, pours a ton of money into this system. But the big ones are really tides, Arabella and Soros funding networks.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
I guess it's just the way the news is going these days. But it feels like the roundtable was like yesterday. Oh, it's like life just flies by these days, and there's so much going on. I feel like it moves so quickly. So you talked about Riot, the Post Industrial Complex, Riot Inc. Now, you've traced a lot of money going into these groups. You know this Singham guy? Tell me a little bit more about him. And I've just started to hear his name recently. How long has he been on your. Your map and your radar?
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Seamus Bruner
So my colleague Peter Schweitzer wrote a huge book called Blood Money a couple of years ago, but I say maybe 20, 23 or 4. And that had a whole chapter on Neville or Roy Singham. Neville Roy Singham, I think he goes by Roy. And so he is. He. He sold his tech company, it was called ThoughtWorks, in 2018, I believe, for close to a billion dollars. He's married to the co, the head of Code Pink, which, for those who don't know what Code Pink, it's another one of these radical extremist groups. They were probably most recently in the news when they disrupted. President Trump, had gone to dinner with some of his advisors, and all of a sudden, spontaneous chaos erupts at the restaurant, and all of these people start shrieking at him and getting in his face. It really did look like a security threat. I mean, they were inches away from the president. Secret Service got rid of them pretty quickly, got him out of there. But Code Pink has been huge in the protest industrial complex. He, Neville Roy Singham, funds, of course, Code Pink, but he has this thing in New York called the People's Forum, and it distributes money to all kinds of radical groups. I mean, the. The protests that turned into violent riots out in Los Angeles were organized in part by a group called Chirla, the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, Los Angeles. He funds, again, blm. Actually, he popped back up on our radar pretty recently after the Charlie Kirk assassination. There was this group, Armed Queers of Salt Lake City. And the New York Post reported that the FBI was investigating them for potential knowledge of the assassination ahead of time. There's no evidence, I'll be clear, that they were linked to the Kirk assassination. But when we started looking into this group, Armed Queers of Salt Lake City, which is exactly like what it sounds. I mean, they go to the shooting range and, you know, just plan for. I guess they say defensive Maneuvers. But they were flown down this group from Salt Lake City to Cuba of all places and participated in a Neville Roy Singham backed Marxist revolutionary training event. He's actually helped fund at least 800 groups. I mean, whether it's BLM or you know, other radical groups like that antifa types to go down to Cuba and learn from real revolutionaries on how to overthrow countries. The Armed Queers of Salt Lake City, they posted all of these videos of the event. We were able to screen grab them before they completely went dark. And they did that, by the way, before they were announced to be under investigation. I think that's one of the things the FBI found suspicious is around the time of Charlie Kirk's assassination they just started taking all of their content off of Instagram, Facebook. They had substack articles talking about how to overthrow the U.S. so the point is, is Neville Roy Singham is what we would consider a foreign investor in Riot Inc. He lives in Shanghai.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Why does he live in China?
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Seamus Bruner
He's very pro ccp. Ironically, he funds a lot of things in the US that the CCP would never be on board with, like armed queers. So is he American? He, I believe he's got either dual citizenship or. He may, he may be American, but he does not spend the most, most of his time here. He spends it in China.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Interesting. And in these groups like Antifa, they have lawyers who protect them, like the National Lawyers Guild. Talk a little bit about these. What do we know about these lawyers and sort of like their ties to these left wing groups.
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Seamus Bruner
Yeah, I mean that's, that's definitely one of the most well funded. That's where a lot of the money goes to, is lawyers at things like the aclu. The National Lawyers Guild is like a more extreme version of the aclu and what they're there is they're on the ground, they're in either yellow vests, yellow hats, something kind of, you know, marking that they're not part of the, the actual rioting and protesting apparatus. They're just there to document and help get these rioters out of trouble. And so, you know, an example would be the rioters have just thrown a Molotov cocktail or launched a mortar firework at ICE officers or punched them or beat them, or thrown rocks at them. But then the police will then crack down. Ostensibly, National Lawyers Guild or ACLU observers are there to only get the exculpatory evidence, say this is a police brutality event. Look at how awful these, these ICE.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Officers are, you know, how challenging, you know, we've Got the Trump administration now, obviously, to the roundtable, which you're a part of, they've designated TIFA terrorist organization. The Treasury Department has said that, you know, it's working in tandem with, you know, kind of a whole government approach on some of this stuff. Like, how many degrees of separation are there for some of these guys in terms of where the money goes, where it ends up? Like, how difficult do you think it would be for like, the Treasury Department or the FBI or however it goes to tie, you know, some of these leftists to, you know, like, armed riots and some of this stuff that would enter into, like, illegal territory?
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Seamus Bruner
It's, it's, it's exceptionally difficult, I would say, because they are very well organized, very well trained, and they're pretty savvy about it. I mean, some of the, some of the, you know, knuckleheads, you. And you say, oh, that's an antifa person. That's not like the, that's like the JV Squad I. And I. What I've seen and what the people, you know, I've talked to, the people on the ground, Andy no, and others up in Portland and Seattle, they're saying that the people who you're seeing in Chicago currently engage in these direct actions against the deportation, detention facilities. These are the JV squad, the real varsity Antifa, the OGs, they've kind of gone to ground. I mean, some of them have fled the country. They're taking President Trump's crackdown very seriously. But the people who are experienced at this, again, they get training, they know to keep separate the finances especially. And so because of the decentralized nature, it makes it very hard for a citizen and a journalist to follow the money for civilians to do that all the way down into the pockets of Antifa, because they raise their funding in a variety of ways, actually tracked it to the kind of the GoFundMe, but it's Venmo, it's Cash app, it's Cash. And so once you, once you get to the entities that don't have LLC or aren't incorporated like Antifa, there's other groups, the John Brown Gun Club, the Socialist Rifle association, these are really like clubs with chapters all across the country. Law enforcement is going to have to use those tools. Now, I would say that Treasury, FBI, Homeland Security, etc. They do have the tools to be able to map it. But again, it's clear that these antifa types are very well aware of kind of being decentralized using crypto, etc. Now, we did find One platform called Open. Well, we found two direct, what is it called? The Action Network and Open Collective. And they have not. I'm not alleging they've done anything criminal, but they do provide. It's basically like a GoFundMe, like conservatives set up, Give, send, go because Go Fund me was woke or what have you. These Open Collective and Action Network are like specifically tailored to these protest groups. They have like so if you are Rose City Antifa or the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City or the John Brown Gun Club of Elm Fork, which was linked by the way to a shooting of an ICE officer in Texas, you can go there and set up a page, just like a Facebook page or something and say we're the Portland Socialist Rifle association and it provides all of these mechanisms for funding. It's kind of like either maybe like substack set up a monthly subscription, $5, $10. But what we found is $500 donations by Anonymous. So we can't peel back the layers and see who gave $500 to the socialist Rightful association or the Antifa group. But there are digital platforms raising money for them. And we did find that Open collective received nearly $3 million because it is a nonprofit. Ostensibly it received $3 million from these Arabella Soros Tides funding networks.
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Lisa Booth
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Seamus Bruner
Fireworks in the fourth quarter.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
You know, when you look at, you know, I know Secretary Noemus told me this, that, you know, you go to some of these riots and it's like they all have the same gear, they all have the same shields. Like it's, it's very uniform, I guess. You know, kind of where are the lines in terms of, I mean, that seems to be like you're intentionally funding like a riot or an insurrect.
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Lisa Booth
Right.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Or a criminal activity. You know, talk a little bit about that coordination in terms of like where these people get the gear from and who they get it from.
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Seamus Bruner
Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, there's, there's the coordination is. I mean, when you, the deeper you look at it, the deeper it's just like it's mind boggling how well coordinate coordinated they are and how it's, I mean, they're traveling city to city as far as where they're getting the gear. I mean, some people have found that it's like, oh, it came from Amazon. Again, we can't really track the. Well, who, whose Amazon account was used to buy some of these face shields or the, you know, the gas masks, et cetera. But yeah, it, it costs a lot of money. And U haul trucks and storage units have been identified. There's this headquarters in Portland. But you know, an antifa, like headquarters or safe house is another term people are using that's very expensive real estate that costs money. And just the fact that people are spending weeks and months with no apparent job just causing chaos and mayhem, you know, people got to eat. Now when I speak to the coordination, it's like on this site, open collective. And there's other sites too. Like there's this term mutual aid that they use, which is like basically like couch surfing and stuff. So there is a lot of coordination where they look out for each other. You know, various businesses in Portland or Seattle will kind of identify themselves as a mutual aid supplier. So they're kind of, you know, providing aid and comfort to what the administration has declared are domestic terrorists. So again, the coordination is kind of crazy. And then as far as the big funding networks, they. We know for a fact they're going to say, and they have said that, well, we make every grant recipient sign a contract saying that I promise I won't engage in illegal activity. And that'll probably hold up pretty well in many courts that, well, look, we didn't know. Now what I would say is probably that.
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Lisa Booth
So some of this money is from.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Taxpayers then, is what you're saying.
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Seamus Bruner
Well, There's. Well, yeah, that's a. That's a separate issue. And yes, a huge amount of the money flows into the big funding networks, Tides, Arabella Soros Funding Networks. Rockefeller gets a touch of taxpayer money, and it goes. We tracked over $100 million, finds its way into these groups, which then distribute money's fungible. It is the exact entity funding. There was an event down in Atlanta, for example, called Stop Cop City, where more than 60 rioters were charged with things like domestic terrorism, violent assault on law enforcement, arson, et cetera. Those were directly funded by Tides. Like the. The organization was called Network for Strong communities. Tides gave $160,000, and this was a pretty small organization. All of its executives were charged with violent crimes for the attack on law enforcement in Atlanta. Tides receives tens of millions of dollars, taxpayer dollars. So it's not a very. It's not a meandering path. It's like taxpayers give to Tides. Tides gives to groups that have its executives get arrested for violent crime. So it's pretty straightforward there. But just real quick on the. The grants that they give. So Tides will make Network for Strong Communities sign a agreement in order to get their $160,000. They will make that entity sign an agreement, say, we're not going to do anything illegal. Then it goes and does something illegal, and Tide says, hey, we had no idea that it was going to do this. Well, first of all, you can kind of look at their history and see that they've been doing this kind of rioting and protesting for a long time. I would say that they didn't. The funding network ties in this case, or it would be a Soros or Arabella type thing. I would say they didn't do their due diligence, but I'd say the bail funds are really kind of a smoking gun because they are pouring tens of millions of dollars into bail funds, and they're bailing out people who have already been charged. So it's like the crime has already been committed, and you're trying to get this person who probably belongs there for a number of years. You're trying to get them out overnight. And in many cases, these violent criminals are bailed out overnight.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
You know what I had. I was on Fox and Friends, and we interviewed Secretary Noem, and she broke some news about how some of these ICE agents and officers and agents have had bounties put on their head for 2,000 to kidnap them, 10,000 to kill them. Their pictures are released through different networks. And I'd asked her, well, you know, who's behind it? And she said gangs, cartel members and foreign terrorist organizations as deemed by the President. You know, we've referenced some of the domestic terrorism happening here in the United States. How linked is it to foreign terror groups? Like, what's the, like, coordination or correlation between the two?
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Seamus Bruner
And it's a, it's a great question. I mostly been focusing on the domestic. Of course, Neville Roy Singham, he's got a lot of overlap with like, the Party for Socialism and Liberation. And I would say he's the one we've looked at the most with, like, ties to radical foreign groups, potentially terror groups. You know, there's another one, cair, the Council on American Islamic Relations, which has historically always been, you know, in the news for its potential ties to terrorist groups. CARE is very, very much involved in a lot of this stuff. And, and, and there's other groups too. Like the PFLP is tied to some of the SIGM entities. So the, the connections are there. Of course, these are very sophisticated NGOs in the US who have been at this for a very long time. So they know how to kind of keep the accounts separate from, from foreign terror groups. Because, and that came up at the White House roundtable was. Well, one of the reporters asked, like, have you considered, President Trump, have you considered designating ANTIFA a foreign terror organization? And it had been right when Secretary of State Rubio had walked in to pull the President away for the ceasefire and peace deal talks. But Marco Rubio was right there and Trump turns to him and says, what do you think, Marco? Should we, should we designate Antifa a foreign terrorist organization? And Secretary Rubio kind of said, yeah, let's look into it. I don't know if that will actually happen, but I can say that when you designate a group, a foreign terror organization, there are even more tools because the left is saying right now that, oh, domestic terror organization doesn't mean anything. It's not necessarily true. It's kind of like a forcing function of getting the entire administration to have a whole of government approach to take the antifa violence threats seriously by designating it a foreign terror organization. And I would say that there's absolutely evidence that this is a foreign group. We don't have a whole lot of visibility into the foreign funding. But you just look at this website I mentioned, Anti Open Collective, which allows ANTIFA to fundraise from anonymous sources. There are ANTIFA chapters all over the world. And so it certainly isn't just in only a domestic group. It's in Europe. It's in other countries, South America, et cetera.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
You know, we look at, you know, President Trump designated antifa a domestic terrorist organization, as we have established. How does that, how much does that help? You know, I know ANTIFA is like very decentralized. Like, how difficult would it be to sort of disrupt that? Like, talk to me a little bit about that because my understandings are sort of like intentionally decentralized for those types of reasons. Yeah, talk a little bit like, does the designation help? Like, how do you, how do you see it?
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Seamus Bruner
What it, what it does is it tells and they, I mean, you know, you gotta, you gotta give the administration credit for having something like the, the roundtable, which is very much in the public, you know, like it was a televised event and you know, speaking quite openly about the administration's plans. Whereas the FBI has been infiltrating terror groups since forever. So I mean, it's, this isn't anything new. The left is kind of hyperventilating, like, oh my gosh, he's, he's going full fascist or whatever. But you know, the FBI has done this for a very long time. As far as the designation, what it does is it sort of tells every official Attorney General Bondi or FBI Director Patel, this is an administration priority. He could have done it in a memo. It says it's a really, really strong priority. They have charged two individuals, which I think enhances the penalties. But what's been going on for years now is that the ANTIFA rioters will go assault law enforcement, they'll go burn a car, they'll go try to set fire to an ICE facility, and then they'll get arrested by maybe, maybe they'll get arrested by local police, Portland police, Seattle police, et cetera. And then they'll get out overnight because the city, the mayor is not taking it seriously. We're seeing that obviously in Portland right now. They're actually sort of on the side of the so called anti fascists. And so when you make this designation one, it tells the Justice Department, most importantly and Homeland Security that federal crimes need to be filed here in any way that these people can be charged with federal crimes because then you can't get them out overnight. And it emboldens them, by the way, it emboldens the violent ANTIFA members when they just get a slap on the wrist and then they're back on the street the next day when you get arrested by the feds and you go to federal prison for 10 years for committing federal assaults on federal officers. And it's enhanced with Terror designation. I think a lot you're going to see this crackdown, I believe work once a few people get charged with federal crimes and are not going to be getting out of jail anytime soon. But to your point, it's going to be like whack a mole because all they have to do is stop calling themselves anti fascist or antifa and they'll say, well, I'm not a member of Antifa. I'm just a member of some new thing called pro democracy, we're pro Dems or something. And they can change their name easily. They can get rid of their antifa flag and make a new flag and continue to commit the, the, you know, the crimes that they are committing. Which is why, like my point was this is a much bigger ecosystem, why we call it the protest industrial complex rioting. It's so much bigger than just antifa. You really have to go after the funding sources that enable all of this chaos. Which means, no, no, you're not going to be charging the ACLU or the National Lawyers Guild with DOM domestic terrorism. But if they are funding or enabling criminal behavior, this is kind of where you get back into what President Trump posted a few months back about rico. Now RICO is, I mean a very tough thing to prove. But if you have an entire ecosystem network of people funding and enabling criminal activity and if you can prove that, then you can actually start to try to kind of dismantle and disrupt the funding sources. And I think that's the only way you can really stop this, this chaos.
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Lisa Booth
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International Games continue on NFL Network and here our stars come out in the morning. Week 10 Bajan Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin.
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Seamus Bruner
Fireworks in the fourth quarter.
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Then in week 11, Jadyn Daniels and the Commanders face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on it's Sunday Morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Do they even believe in anything? Because it seems to be the same people who are like part of Black Lives Matter, who then you know, are with the Palestinians and hate Israel but then also are like the same people who hate ICE and you know what I mean? Like it seems like they're just like hate squads and it doesn't matter. Like do they have any core beliefs or is it just like anarchy and anti government?
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Seamus Bruner
You know it varies person by person. But I mean you're right, a lot of these people are kind of just malcontents. What the, the guy sitting next to me, I'll give him a shout out. Jonathan Cho of Turning Point usa and he did a report with the Capital Research center that was titled Infiltrated and it's all about how the homelessness industrial complex. Like there's all, there's all. You'd be stunned to know the number of groups that are purporting to help fix the homelessness crisis, especially in, you know, in Gavin Newsom's California, where $18 billion. Where did it go? It went to groups like these ones. And what, what this report shows is that these homelessness advocacy groups have been totally infiltrated by radical leftists who are now taking advantage and exploiting homeless people, bringing them into the cause. A lot of people like, you know, Cam Higby was on the ground in Portland. He was interviewing various antifa members who sort of undercover and several others were there. They all told me the same thing and said at the White House that the homeless, there's a huge homeless contingent and people who shouldn't be able to travel between Chicago and Portland and Seattle don't have the resources or somehow finding their way there and just causing chaos. So I think there are paid agitators finding that. I think that's going to be a law enforcement job of how they're getting paid. If it's cash, I can't do that from here. But you know, I think, I think we're going to find out a lot more, especially like because it's finally being taken seriously. You know, we've all suspected for years that, you know, you see a video of someone handing out, you know, cash to various agitators. They're going to have to really do like tough law enforcement work of getting them to flip. You know, true believers are going to be, you know, they'll probably go down with the ship. But some of them are going to say, you know, I'm facing 10 years in federal prison. I'm going to give up, you know, the guy who funded me and who paid me in cash and that kind of thing. So yeah, I think it's going to take, take a while. I don't think it's, you know, we'll see if the National Guard goes into Portland, maybe that'll be able to clean it up. And you know, but I think they're going to buy their time. I mean, this is just a tactic, a color revolution tactic.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
And then Seamus, before we go, where can I know we had you on recently to talk about your latest book, control Garcs, but where can people continue to follow your work?
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Seamus Bruner
Yeah, I'm on, I'm on all platforms at Seamus Bruner. Seamus is S E A M U S Bruner B R U N E R mostly on Twitter. That's where I spend most of but I got Instagram and others. That's probably the best place you can find our investigations@theduldown.com that's where Peter Schweitzer hosts his podcast, the Drill Down.com and that's where all of our investigations and receipts are posted.
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Lisa Booth
Awesome.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
Well, very interesting stuff. We'll continue to follow it. Would love to have you back back on and check back in about where everything is going. So appreciate you making the time, Seamus.
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Seamus Bruner
Thank you, Lisa.
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Podcast Host/Interviewer
That was Seamus Bruner. Appreciate him for making the time to come on the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday. You can listen throughout the week. I also want to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together. Until next time.
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NFL Announcer
The NFL International games continue on NFL Network. And here our stars come out in the morning. Week 10, Bajan Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin.
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Seamus Bruner
Fireworks in the fourth quarter.
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NFL Announcer
Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders touchdown once again. Face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on it's Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.
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