The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Jack Ciattarelli on New Jersey’s Governor Race: Taxes, Parental Rights, and the Fight for Change

Summary

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The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Jack Ciattarelli on New Jersey’s Governor Race

Date: October 30, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (The Truth with Lisa Boothe segment)
Host: Lisa Boothe
Guest: Jack Ciattarelli, Republican candidate for Governor of New Jersey

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Brief Overview

This episode centers on the New Jersey gubernatorial election, offering a detailed interview with Republican candidate Jack Ciattarelli just days before the vote. Lisa Boothe explores the tightening poll numbers, Ciattarelli’s policy priorities, criticisms of Democratic opponent Mikie Sherrill, and the broader call for change in a state long governed by Democrats. The discussion is a mix of campaign strategy, contrasts with the opposition, and Ciattarelli’s vision for New Jersey on economic issues, education, taxes, and parental rights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Tight Race and Polling Dynamics (03:21 - 06:35)

• Boothe highlights the latest Emerson poll showing Ciattarelli trailing Democrat Mikie Sherrill by just 1 point, signaling momentum for Republicans.
• Ciattarelli explains why he always expected a close race and emphasizes “Republicans typically under poll in New Jersey because we’re outnumbered by so many people” (04:54).
• Growing support from across the aisle noted: “The reception in minority communities all across the state has been overwhelmingly positive. And when Democratic elected leaders are endorsing the Republican nominee ... it tells you people want change.” (05:04)
• Polling skepticism: Ciattarelli recounts that public polls were significantly off in prior cycles and says he trusts internal campaign data more.

2. Cross-Party Endorsements & Voter Dissatisfaction (05:32 - 08:55)

• 13 Democratic endorsements: Boothe confirms a high number of prominent Democrats backing Ciattarelli, a testament, he says, to widespread “dissatisfaction with [Governor] Phil Murphy’s governance” (05:56).
• The “majority of New Jersey voters want change,” with the economy as the decisive issue.

3. Critique of Opponent Mikie Sherrill (06:35 - 08:23, 15:26 - 19:23)

• Ciattarelli draws comparisons between Sherrill and Kamala Harris, describing both as “awkward on stage, inability to answer questions” (06:35).
• Integrity issues highlighted:
  • Naval Academy discipline: “She hasn’t come perfectly clean as to why” she was punished at the Naval Academy (07:34).
  • Unexplained wealth: “She triples her net worth, but can’t answer the question as to how that happened. I mean, come on, who wouldn’t know if they made $7 million?” (07:34)
  • Ethics concerns: “She violated federal law, had to pay fines for stock trades ... trading defense stocks while sitting on the House Armed Services Committee” (07:34).
• Press accountability: Ciattarelli laments that Sherrill “has gotten a pass by the press ... and doesn’t show up” to key campaign events (16:53).

4. New Jersey’s Current Challenges and the Battle for Change (08:23 - 10:49)

• Incumbent criticism: Ciattarelli labels the Murphy administration as a failure on taxes, spending, public safety, education, and affordability: “They’ve increased spending by 64% ... we slipped from 2 to 12 on the national report card.” (08:55)
• Voter frustration: “For all these reasons ... people are really just pissed.” (09:29)
• A "trait of mine": Clear, specific problem-solving is pitched as his leadership hallmark.

5. Motivation and Personal Stake (10:02 - 10:49)

• Ciattarelli, a lifelong New Jerseyan, frames his candidacy as personal: “When something I love is broken, I want to fix it. So this is not a vanity tour.” (10:09)
• He’s “already had the best titles in the world ... son, brother, husband and father” (10:20).

6. Top Policy Priorities (10:49 - 11:49)

• Reduce electricity bills: “On day one, by executive order, I pull us out of Reggie ... a carbon tax policy that has failed New Jerseyans.” (10:58)
• Cutting taxes: “Reduce ... state government to afford a tax cut for individuals and businesses ... who are the most overtaxed ... in the nation.” (11:18)
• Fix public education: “Get our public school curriculum back on track ... Reading, writing, math, science, civics. And get rid of that other stuff that Murphy’s put in there that belongs at home.” (11:33)

7. What a Sherrill Administration Would Entail (15:26 - 15:57)

• Ciattarelli predicts “more of the same, only worse. She’s ... endorsed every one of these failed policies.” (15:30)
• Claims Sherrill is “owned by party bosses ... special interests.”

8. Parental Rights & Social Policy (15:57 - 16:45)

• Criticizes Democrats' stance on gender and school parental notification:
  • “She voted yes twice for biological boys to participate in girls sports. I just don’t understand it. It’s one of those 80/20 issues ... I’m all about what’s fair.” (16:11)
  • “School districts keeping secrets from parents ... that’s immoral, indecent, wrong, and ... dangerous.” (16:33)

9. Naval Academy Plagiarism Scandal and Nepotism Accusations (17:33 - 18:42)

• Multiple and shifting explanations from Sherrill about plagiarism discipline: “She’s changed her story three times ... she refuses to release those records.” (17:53)
• On helping her children secure Naval Academy nominations: “Don’t you think it’s kind of strange that ... two of the 12 [nominees she announced publicly] are your own kids?” (18:42)
• All these issues, Ciattarelli says, “just speaks to character.” (19:00)

10. Mobilizing Republican Voters and Closing Strategy (19:23 - 21:15)

• “We’ve seen the greatest number of Republicans return their vote by mail ballots. In the five days of early voting thus far ... we’re matching the Democrats person for person. If we go into election day tied ... we kill it on election day.” (19:36)
• “The enthusiasm factor, mine versus hers, is off the charts.” (20:11)
• Ciattarelli expresses confidence and readiness: “We smell the goal line ... energized and determined. We’re going to finish strong.” (20:59)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democratic cross-endorsements:
  “All across the state, Democrats have endorsed me, and I’m humbled and honored by it. But again, it only emphasizes how much people want change.”
  — Jack Ciattarelli, 05:41

• On Mainstream Polling Skepticism:
  “There are very few polls I trust other than our internal polling. … Many of these polls ... had me down by 12 with a week to go last time.”
  — Jack Ciattarelli, 06:07

• On Opponent’s “Character Problems”:
  “Who wouldn’t know if they made $7 million? ... It just speaks to character.”
  — Jack Ciattarelli, 07:34

• On Parental Rights:
  “School districts keeping secrets from parents, I mean, that’s immoral, indecent, wrong, and, I believe, dangerous.”
  — Jack Ciattarelli, 16:33

• On Enthusiasm:
  “When there’s ... the enthusiasm factor, mine versus hers is off the charts.”
  — Jack Ciattarelli, 20:11

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Context: 03:21 – 04:43
• Why the Race Is Tight: 04:43 – 06:35
• Democratic Endorsements & Voter Discontent: 05:32 – 08:23
• Criticisms of Mikie Sherrill: 06:35 – 08:23, 15:26 – 19:23
• Statewide Issues & Voter Frustration: 08:23 – 10:49
• Personal Stake & Motivation: 10:02 – 10:49
• Top Three Policy Priorities: 10:49 – 11:49
• On Sherrill’s Potential Governorship: 15:26 – 15:57
• Parental Rights, Gender Policy: 15:57 – 16:45
• Naval Academy + Nepotism Issues: 17:33 – 18:42
• Republican Enthusiasm & GOTV: 19:23 – 21:15
• Closing Thoughts: 21:15 – 21:33

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Tone & Style

The conversation is direct, energetic, and campaign-focused. Lisa Boothe contrasts Democratic and Republican platforms with pointed questions. Ciattarelli remains optimistic and policy-oriented while also engaging in sharp personal critiques of Sherrill’s character and background. Emotional language is used to emphasize urgency (“people are pissed,” “smell the goal line,” “it just speaks to character”).

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This summary covers the key topics, positions, and moments from the episode, making it accessible and actionable for anyone seeking clarity about the New Jersey governor’s race and Jack Ciattarelli’s platform.

Transcript

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[Lisa Booth]

O.Com welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth where we get to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today. We're talking about the Garden State. The New Jersey gubernatorial race is this Tuesday between Democrat Mikey Sherrill and Republican Jack Cittarelli. So we're going to talk to Jack Cittarelli on the show today. Some good news. An Emerson poll shows him within 1 percentage point of Mikey Sherrill. So he is closing the gap in this election at a perfect time right ahead of Tuesday's November election. Now, people got to get out and vote, which is part of the conversation we're going to be having. But you look at a state right now in New Jersey where the Democrat governor, Phil Murphy, he is underwater. People are dissatisfied with his governance. The majority of New Jersey voters, they want change. The top issue is the economy. So Jack Chittarelli could be that change for those voters. He's also received President Trump's endorsement as well. So we're going to dig into this tightening race where he's got momentum, the big issues and why they matter. Stay tuned for Jack Ciarelli. Jack Ciarelli, it's great to have you on the show, sir. I interviewed you before when I've been filling in on Fox and co hosting. But it's great to have you on the podcast. I know you're a busy man. You've got a lot going on right now. Little thing called an election next week. So appreciate you making the time, sir.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Thank you.

[Lisa Booth]

Lisa, Emerson's out with a new poll. I'm sure you've seen it. It has you down by just one. I mean, this race has really tightened over the weeks. Why do you think we've seen so much movement?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Well, listen, all along we felt that this was a very, very close race. Keeping in mind that Republicans typically under poll in New Jersey because we're outnumbered by so many people. But we're right in position to deliver a win. This is exactly what we expected to happen. And all I could tell you is, compared to 2021, when I thought I was gonna win this time, the energy is electric. The reception in minority communities all across the state has been overwhelmingly positive. And when Democratic elected leaders are endorsing the Republican nominee, as has been the case with me, it tells you people want change. So I'm not surprised one bit by the polls. I just feel like we're in a great position to deliver a win on Tuesday.

[Lisa Booth]

Has it been 13 prominent Democrats, or how many Democrats have endorsed you? I think it was something like that, right?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Yeah, it is. I mean, we picked up another one last weekend with the deputy mayor up in Bergen County. So all across the state, Democrats have endorsed me, and I'm humbled and honored by it. But again, it only emphasizes how much people want change. After eight years of failed policies by Phil Murphy, all of which, by the way, have been endorsed by my opponent.

[Lisa Booth]

And you almost beat him in 2021, I think the real corporate politics average, it was off by like 5 percentage. Do you feel like we're seeing that again with some of the polling this cycle?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

You know, Lisa, there are very few polls I trust other than iron internal polling. I really do. I mean, listen, many of these polls that have me down right now by three or four points had Kamala Harris winning New Jersey last year by 20 plus, and they're the same ones that had me down by 12 with a week to go last time. I trust our internal polling. There are a couple out there that we trust, but we just think we're in a really, really good position. Again, keeping in mind that Republicans typically under poll in New Jersey.

[Lisa Booth]

You know, it's interesting because your opponent, Mikey Sherrill, a lot of people have said she's very similar to Kamala Harris, just sort of like awkward on stage, inability to answer questions. Do you see those similarities?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

What's obvious to me is that they took this election for granted because there's so many more Democrats than Republicans. But if you look at history, when the Democrat in office has failed or the candidate stinks, the moderate Democrats will vote Republican. It's not a deep blue state when it comes to gubernatorial elections. And her, the manner in which she's gone about this campaign, whether it's her interviews, being out on the stump, or lack thereof, it really has proven what we're dealing with in her case is somebody who's ill prepared and really unqualified. For the job, you know, and she's.

[Lisa Booth]

Been asked before about increasing her net worth pretty substantially since getting elected to Congress. Do you have questions about that or, you know, I guess why. Why do you think she was unable to explain it? Particularly in that interview on the Breakfast Club with Charlamagne Tha God.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

There's questions of integrity and there's questions of character. It starts with her Naval Academy attendance where she was severely punished for not being allowed to participate in the graduation. She hasn't come perfectly clean as to why that's the case. Then she gets to Congress and in six years time triples her net worth, but yet can't answer the question as to how that happened. I mean, come on, who wouldn't know if they made $7 million? Okay. And we also know that she violated federal law, had to pay fines for stock trades and stock reporting as a congressperson. New York Times reports she's trading defense stocks while sitting on the House Armed Services Committee. I mean, again, this speaks to character. But listen, the worst attribute of all is that she's not from New Jersey. And she's proven that with her inability to talk to the issues that matter and provide. Nor does she provide any solutions.

[Lisa Booth]

How much of this? You know, you look at the polling and like the majority of voters in New Jersey, they say the economy is the top issue. I've seen polls where, you know, I think it's something like 55%. They want change. You look at Governor Phil Murphy's numbers, who's the Democrat governor currently totally underwater. Like, people are very frustrated with him. Do you think this is going to be a change election? Do you think voters in New Jersey are ready for a Republican? I think it's been 13 years since Chris Christie won his last reelection.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Absolutely, they're ready for change because of all the failures of the current administration, which, again, have been endorsed by my opponent. I mean, let's just look across the board. They've raised taxes dramatically in the eight years in office. They've increased spending by 64%, and nobody's better off. We have a public education crisis in the state. We slipped from 2 to 12 on the national report card. We have a public safety in the crisis in the state because they've handcuffed our police. And with cashless bail, professional criminals have learned how to game the system. And of course, just the affordability crisis, not just because of taxes. It's housing, it's childcare, it's across the board. All the insurances have gone up. And so for all these reasons and More people are really just pissed. I mean, even the suburban communities, we've got this over development crisis that's taking place because with the social engineering the Democrats are doing with high density housing, they're taking Garden right out of the Garden State. So for all these reasons, and more people have just had it. And what we've been able to do is go out there and say very specifically how we're going to solve each one of those problems. That's always been a trait of mine. I try to give people specifics so they get excited about ideas and so hope for change.

[Lisa Booth]

You know, you're a successful business guy. Why do you want this? Why do you want to be governor?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

This state has been very good to the Chedorelli. We've been here for 100 years. Three generations of Ciattarellis have all achieved our American dream here. And when something I love is broken, I want to fix it. So this is not a vanity tour. I've already had the best titles in the world. Whether it was son, brother, husband and father. It's not that I need the job. I've been very, very fortunate in owning my own businesses. But again, when something I love is broken, I want to fix it. And I do believe that my brand of leadership will make a difference in making New Jersey a more affordable place, a safer place with a great educational system. Those are the issues, and I've got very specific ideas on how to fix them.

[Lisa Booth]

You know, walk me through some of those. Like, what are you. Like, what would you say if you had to pick, like, your top three ideas that you think would make the biggest impact in New Jersey? What would they be?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Number one, everybody's got their electricity bill on their mind because it's gone through the roof because the Murphy administration has failed us with their energy policy. So number one, on day one, by executive order, I pull us out of Reggie. The Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative is a carbon tax policy that has failed New Jerseyans. And by pulling out, which I can do by executive order, I can lower people's monthly bills significantly. The second thing we gotta do is reduce the size and cost of our state government to afford a tax cut for individuals and businesses who are the most overtaxed and the highest taxed in the nation. And the third thing I can do for, particularly for families with K through 12 children, is fix the educational system. We gotta get our public school curriculum back on track. Reading, writing, math, science, civics. And get rid of that other stuff that Murphy's put in there that belongs at home. Those are three things we can do right off the bat.

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[Lisa Booth]

What do you think New Jersey would look like under Mikey Sherrill if she were to win?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Goodness, Lisa, it's more of the same, only worse. I mean, she's, you know, endorsed every one of these failed policies. She's endorsed Mandami. Mandami's endorsed her. It would just be more of the same, only worse. And we cannot afford another four years of Phil Murphy failed policies, which is exactly what we'll get. So she's owned by party bosses. She's owned by special interests. Whether it's the teachers union, estate workers union. It would be a disaster.

[Lisa Booth]

You know, parental rights has become an issue in this race as well. Why do you think Democrats keep doubling down on things like letting men play and are, you know, boys. Men playing women's sports and that?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

When you say Democrats, that includes my opponent, she voted yes twice for biological boys to participate in girls sports. I mean, I just don't understand it. It's one of those 80, 20 issues. So, listen, I'm all about inclusivity. I'm all about everybody feeling welcome. I'm all about everybody feeling safe. But I'm also about what's fair. So, I mean, I don't understand that policy one bit. Nor do I understand the policy of school districts keeping secrets from parents. I mean, that's immoral, indecent, wrong, and, I believe, dangerous. So those are two things that change on day one.

[Lisa Booth]

Has she been forced to explain why she supports men and women's sports? Has she given any sort of explanation?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

You know, Lisa, what's been very frustrating is she has gotten a pass by the press, in my opinion, as to what went down at the Naval Academy, what went down when she was a U.S. attorney, that one only lasted 11 months. She brags all the time about being a U.S. attorney, and she's gotten a pass on these particular issues and others. But part of it is also her not showing up. I mean, yesterday was another example where there's 500 people in the audience with one of the most important business advocacies. She doesn't show up. Time and time again, she sends a surrogate, and I don't know why the press has given a pass to somebody who wants to be governor but doesn't want to interview for the job.

[Lisa Booth]

You know, now the Naval Academy scandal, so there was like a plagiarism scandal, and she didn't walk. And she claims it's because she didn't want to rat out her Naval. Her fellow Naval Academy grads. Do you think that passes the smell test, or kind of like, what have you heard about that? You know, what do we know now?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

It doesn't pass the smell test for two reasons. Number one, she's changed her story three times as to why she was punished. And. And the second reason is because why won't she approve the release of her disciplinary records that would tell us what exactly she did. If she's telling us the truth, then the disciplinary records would match what she's saying, but she refuses to release those records.

[Lisa Booth]

And then also there's been accusations of nepotism, of Mikey Sheryl sort of using her office to get her kids into the Naval Academy. Now, they were nominated by the senators in the state, but, you know, I would imagine they wouldn't have done that if she had not been a member of Congress, I guess. What do you think that says about her of sort of using that position of power to let her kids kind of circumvent, you know, other kids who don't have that political connection.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Lisa, what I found really strange is when she announced that there were about a dozen high school graduates from her congressional district that were getting into the military academies, and she listed them all by name, two of which were her children. I mean, don't you think it's kind of strange that you would specifically mention these 12 people, congratulate them, but then not tell people that two of the 12 are your own kids? It just is very strange, as is the whole Naval Academy thing, as is tripling her net worth, as is the New York Times reports on her stock trades, as is violating federal law for congresspeople's stock trades and stock reporting. Again, it just speaks to character, you.

[Lisa Booth]

Know, already early voting is underway. Democrats have been out in force kind of. What are you seeing in the early voting numbers and what's your message to voters and asking them to get out their vote and support you?

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Lisa, we really like what we see. We've seen the greatest number of Republicans return their vote by mail ballots. That's a very good sign in the five days of early voting thus far because it started last Saturday. We're matching the Democrats person for person. And let me tell you, if we go into election day tide based on VBMs and early voting, it's going to end up being a really good night for Republicans in the state of New Jersey because we kill it on election day. So I'm really proud of the job our local caucuses have done to get people to get their vote by mail ballots in and convince people to participate in early voting. I do think those that are supporting Ciatarelli are much more motivated. And what you see in the polls is something that's easy to overlook. But when there's. There's this thing called the enthusiasm factor. And the enthusiasm factor, mine versus hers is off the charts. And people were asked in a poll that went out yesterday, who do you think is going to win the election? And 54% said Jack Ciatarelli. So I just feel that our supporters are much more motivated and a lot of it has to do with Democrats acknowledging that the last eight years have been a failure and she's just a repeat of Phil Murphy.

[Lisa Booth]

Well, you've definitely been working your butt off. You know, I've not been a candidate, but I've worked on big races and, you know, big statewide races, and it's a lot of work. It's very exhausting. You know, you and your team have got to be wiped out right now. Right. So you've been working hard out there.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

I appreciate that, Lisa. But let me tell you something. We're exhilarated. We smell the goal line. We've worked extremely hard, but we're also very disciplined and very committed, energized and determined. We're going to finish strong over these last four days and we'll count the votes on Tuesday. But I really like our position well.

[Lisa Booth]

Here in New Jersey. Voter elections. Tuesday, November 4th get out and vote. Check to see where you can go vote and get out there for Jack Cittarelli and encourage your friends and family as well. Sir, thanks for making the time. You've got a lot going on. So hoping, hoping we we see you win on Tuesday, sir.

[Jack Ciattarelli]

Lisa, I appreciate the opportunity and I look forward to coming back on as governor elect. How's that sound?

[Lisa Booth]

I think that sounds great and I would love that. All right, God bless sir. That was Jack Cittarelli running for governor of New Jersey. Election is this Tuesday, November 4th. Get out and vote. Appreciate you guys for listening every Tuesday and Thursday. You can listen throughout the week. I also want to thank John Cassio, my producer producer for putting the show together. Until next time.

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