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The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Rep. Chip Roy on Israel, Border Chaos, and America’s Fight Against Radicalism
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This is an iHeart podcast. Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today. We're joined by Congressman Chiproy to tackle a lot lot going on in the country, a lot going around, a lot going on in the world as well. Two years officially since the October 7th terror attacks in Israel. The Trump administration is engaged in negotiations right now to get the remaining hostages returned to Israel and to end the conflict. What does Trip Roy think will happen with that? We'll also dive into this assassination culture that's brewing in America right now, starting with the attorney. Another attorney general race in the state of Virginia where the Democrat candidate there is on record wishing for the death of a Republican opponent and that opponent's children. And then there's this shocking eight year sentence for the man who plotted to assassinate Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Why did the judge factor in President Trump's transgender prison policies? What does that say about our legal system? So there is a lot to cover and we're going to dig into all of it with Congressman Chip Roy, who is running for Attorney General in the state of Texas. Stay tuned. Congressman Chip Roy, it's always great to have you on the show. Always love your candidness. A lot going on in the country, in the world right now. So looking forward to your insight into all of it. I wanted start off just with two years since the October 7th terror attacks. Right now, the, the Trump administration's trying to hammer out negotiations and details of, you know, ceasefire, some sort of peace plan, returning the hostages. What do you think's going to happen with all of this? Obviously, you know, there's good reason to sort of be cautiously optimistic about everything.
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Well, thanks for starting with that question. It's such an important remembrance of what actually occurred on October 7th to not just our friends in Israel, but to American citizens. And when people question like, why is this battle going on? Remember the horrors that unfolded on October 7th. And you asked me, what do I think will happen? And I want to start with the credit that is due President Trump and his history of working out solutions in the Middle east, the Abraham Accords, notably bringing Arab nations together along with Israel to create a new paradigm where you've got travel going between the countries. And then he's got a track record of success in figuring out how to get these parties together. So I'm hopeful that the meetings that are occurring right now can yield that kind of result. But it should be noted that over the last 48 hours, I've seen some Absurd demands out of Hamas. Oh yeah, sure, we'll release the hostages if you release the murderers who killed a lot of our innocent Israeli citizens. That's absurd and that's a non starter. Hamas has to know that. So I hope that in the negotiations they're able to reach a solution. But that solution must begin and end with the national security interests of the United States, the security interests of Israel, and ensuring that Hamas is no longer an organized entity and is no longer carrying out terrorist threats and terrorist attacks on Israel. They need all of that to end. They need to release the hostages and then we need to get busy, you know, trying to figure out how to move forward.
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The thing I don't understand about, you know, some of the conversations around surrounding Israel is the IDEA that like two year, it's been too long of a war, like two, you know, like we after 9 11, which is, you know, the equivalent of what happened in Israel in terms of like, obviously they have much smaller population. So if that were to have happened, here we're talking, I think it's like, you know, over 45,000 people that would have died. And so like to say that two years is just too much, too long of a time. We engaged in like a 20 year war after 9 11. You could certainly make the argument that we didn't need to be at war that long and there was a lot of mistakes that took place. But like two years is not a long period of time when you have 1200 of your people slaughtered, you know, people kidnapped, like your women raped and you know, children murdered. Right. Like, like. So I don't understand the idea that somehow like, it's just too long of a war and Israel needs to lay down their arms.
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B
Yeah, I mean, look, that I think it is very much up to the people of Israel. Obviously we have a vested interest in stability and peace. Obviously some of our treasure goes to supporting Israel or has historically at least. But to say that Israel shouldn't be doing everything necessary to wipe out Hamas, I just disagree with. And I know there's some Americans who think that Israel's being maybe too aggressive or trying to carry this out in too long of a time or they've been too aggressive in Gaza. But look, it's not the Israelis and it's not the Americans who built these tunnels under schools and hospitals. It's not the Israelis or the Americans who have perpetrated these horrific attacks on innocent people and carried out these threats of violence and whose aim, Hamas is to destroy Israel. Let's always remember that. Right I mean, if we had the equivalent right across the border in Mexico now, by the way, the cartels are pretty bad, but if we had the equivalent in terms of jihad, and they wanted to say we're going to wipe Texas off the map and we're going to fire missiles into Austin, but you guys just suck it up and deal, how long do you think that would last? Right. I mean, it's just absurd to think about. So we've got to recognize that reality. While also this is now me speaking. I don't believe in endless wars. Right. I think after 9, 11, we let that go, move away from, hey, let's go take out the bad guys and turned into this like 20 year nation building. Let's remake the Middle east, guys. We weren't going to do that. And so we spent 20 years and $7 trillion and I think we should have had that be a lot shorter. So I think the President's right to try to draw to a close. I think the President Right. To negotiate. I think the President has successful track record, but let's make sure it's good terms, otherwise the deal shouldn't be struck. Yeah.
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And I don't believe in endless wars either. It's just like the idea that Israel is supposed to live alongside Hamas and any sort of like, governing position. It's just. Yeah, it's like absurd. But I wanted to ask you, obviously, after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, like, this environment is something that's, you know, been brewing, right. You can go back to 2017 when the Bernie supporter tried to gun down some of your colleagues, you know, Congressman Steve Scle and, you know, Lee Zeldin was almost stabbed on the campaign. Right. Like, there's a whole long list of things that have taken place to create and foster this environment. But recently, the man who tried to assassinate Justice Brett Kavanaugh and other members of the high court, who, by the way, it was like totally premeditated, right. I mean, this guy flew out from California to the D.C. area. He had all these Google searches, you know, purchased weapons on multiple occasions. On nine different occasions, he bought weapons, made Google searches about serial killers and mass shootings. There's messages about him talking about how he could change the makeup of the court if there was, you know, one less conservative on the court. But so this judge only gives him eight years and even references. The judge said she factored into the sentence her concern about Trump's executive order requiring transgender inmates to be detained in prisons that correspond to their sex at birth. Because this guy Nicholas now says that he's. Sophie, like, what the hell? Congressman? Eight years for a very premeditated, you know, attempted assassination of a Supreme Court justice. And then a reference to the fact that this guy, you know, allegedly says he's now, Sophie, as you know, some sort of reason to give him a lighter sentence. Like, what is happening and what does that tell you about the criminal justice system and the rule of law right now?
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B
Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for starting with the connection to Charlie, Charlie Kirk, because what happened there was the buildup, as you rightly note, of a long time of this building to this moment, the radical left, this Marxist left. They are organized, and they're organized with a mission to take out conservatives and to take out people that frankly disagree with them, and they want to attack the American way of life. Charlie was killed because he was willing to call all this out and stand up on college campuses and proclaim the gospel and stand up for the constitutional order. And I think that's an important predicate for what we're dealing with, with this radical Judge, Deborah Boardman. I think it's disqualified, even impeachable. In fact, I think it is, in fact impeachable as a violation of the constitutional clause for judges of holding the office under good behavior. For her to have basically said, I discount the reality of truth, man and woman, I'm going to set aside the importance of security and enforcing the law, one of the principal roles of a judge, for an obvious assassination attempt that was organized, as you laid out, and had all the evidence that made clear that it was purposeful, and she ignored that, to basically put forward her own worldview over top of the law. That's not good behavior. That's not what we should see out of judges who are supposed to enforce the law. It was an instance of a judge allowing her ideology to subvert the truth, and that's irreconcilable with the bedrock function of the judicial process. And it violates, in my opinion, the constitutional standard for continuance of judicial office of good behavior. Like I said, and I think this is a larger narrative that we need to be mindful of the war being waged against our way of life. You brought up Charlie. The last text exchange I had with Charlie, of substance, that wasn't just a trivial exchange was about, yes, this attack and this sort of Marxist attack, but it was a step further. It was the Islamist in advance of Sharia law attack on our way of life. I think it's all kind of one and the same. I think these things are related. And I think it's a Marxist Islamist attack on the American way of life that I think is central to what we're dealing with right now.
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It also, I feel like the judge also noted the fact that Nicholas called 911 and turned himself in as a reason to give him a lighter sentence. But if you look at what happened, he saw law enforcement outside of the house of Brett Kavanaugh. So, like, you. You know what I mean? Like, so. And, and, and apparently law enforcement saw him. So, like, I don't understand why you would get leniency when the 911 call seemed to be, well, like, inevitably, he was probably going to get busted regardless, and it's better to call 91 1, turn yourself in then. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't seem like that was just out of, like a change of horror and a, you know, a. This guy. Yeah. So it's like, I don't get why that would be factored in.
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Because this judge is accepting the delusional fiction that a man has become a woman and that that fiction is a proper factor to consider in sentencing. That's why it's insanity. Like, this is. This is a break from the foundational principles of our republic. That's what's actually happening. And I think that's what we've got to recognize when we try to think through what we're dealing with here. If you were to ask a conservative like me, and I won't speak for you or anybody else listening, hey, what do you think is the standard for impeaching judges? I would be pretty reticent over the years of saying, well, I mean, look, that's a big leap. Right? But I've been studying and looking at this, and when you look at the power judges have, and impeaching a judge is not the same as the president. Right. It's not just high crimes and misdemeanors. There's a specific clause in there for good behavior, and I think this is directly in violation of that. So that's no small thing. Okay, this is, this is actually somewhat newsworthy. The chairman of the subcommittee of the Constitution subcommittee on the House Judiciary Committee believes that this is impeachable. And I don't take that lightly. That's how crazy what we saw unfold is.
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Got to take a quick commercial break. More with Congressman Chip Roy on the other side.
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I was co hosting Fox and Friends over the weekend and Secretary Noem came on and she broke some news that had all of her jaws know dropped to the floor, had her mouths dropped to the floor. She said that some officers and agents have had bounties put on their head. $2,000 to kidnap them, 10,000 to kill them, that their pictures have been released through networks. I had asked her, you know, like, who's behind it obviously, and, and she said it's gangs, it's cartel members, it's foreign terrorist organizations and that they're working with the Treasury Department to try to dig into some of the financing and the possible coordination. How much of what we're seeing internally with this domestic terrorism in cities like Portland and Chicago is linked to potential foreign terrorism with whether it's these cartels or other, you know, terrorist organizations. Do you think there's a link between the two? And what do you think we're going to find out with some of this investigation? Investigation?
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Well, let's start with what we know. We know that foreign terrorist organizations, including by the way, cartels, which the President was right to designate them as foreign terrorist organizations, by the way. I introduced that legislation in 2019 and I was derided by Republicans who said, well that's crazy, we can't do that. They're not foreign terrorist organizations, Chip. You know, they're not the same as what we're dealing with in the Middle East. I'm like, yes, yes they are. And they are in fact having a much more direct impact on our way of life. Look, I was a federal prosecutor. We had to deal with cartels and the violence that they were carrying out and the kidnappings and what they were perpetrating against the American people. So yes, there is an organized attack from foreign actors to target our people, including our law enforcement officials and our elected officials as people in South Texas. Been going on for years. And now I think it is much more coordinated, much more networked. Now let's look at the domestic side. I don't know if you saw the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund put out a report two weeks ago about something called the Ren Collective, and that is a network of leftists, Marxists that are specifically putting, you know, DAs and judges in place to let criminals out on our streets and importantly, have a plan on how to do it. They put these bad DAs and judges in place and then they really just give them the playbook and they tell them what to do. That's all connected to the Soros funding. That whole network exists. That network has overlapping concentric circles with a network of the 250 or more organizations that were a part of dumping millions of people into our country, including violent gang members and so forth, under the Biden open borders policy. Now take that whole network which is more domestically centered and now go tell me, if we follow the money, it's not going to be connected to the foreign actors. And I'm with you. I don't believe that. In other words, I believe that they are meaning I believe that they are connected. And so I think we've got to follow the money. You might have seen a couple of weeks ago, I called for a special select committee to come together to target the actions of these radical Marxists and leftists and what they're doing to undermine our way of life and target conservatives. And this was in the wake of Charlie getting shot. But I think it could be even bigger than what I described. Like, we need to follow the money in all directions. We need a concerted effort by our executive branch law enforcement officials all the way up, but also Congress doing its job in its part to expose it to the people that this is not an accident. This is not just a couple of random people. This is organized. The Southern Poverty Law center is doing what it's doing. And as a result, the Family Research Council got shot up a decade ago. And as a result, Charlie Kirk gets shot. Antifa is doing what it's doing and it's doing it on purpose. And it's not just an accident. It's coordinated. So I think we've got to go follow the money. You know, when you see those, when you're a prosecutor and you're trying to go prosecute cartels or say a mob ring and the Mafia and you got one of those great big whiteboards where you're connecting all the dots. That's what we need to do on a grand scale across the entire spectrum, in my opinion.
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No, I. I agree, and I. I think we'll probably be alarmed with what we'll find out. I know that the Treasury Secretary is, you know, working with the Department of Homeland Security and trying to dig into all this, so we'll see what comes of that. You're currently running for Attorney General in Texas. There's a. The Democrat candidate for Attorney General in Virginia has been on the record and released text messages for wishing the death upon a Republican opponent, even saying that he deserves to get two bullets to the head, also saying that he wished to see the Republican opponent's children die. And then also, it has just been revealed, talking about how police. He wanted to see police officers die. How can someone like that be an Attorney General of a state when he wishes people he disagrees with to die?
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He cannot.
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What is that?
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Yeah, yeah, he cannot. I mean, that's just the truth. Look, and I live in a world right when we're in this world of social media and Twitter and communication and, you know, people pop off and they say some things that, you know, they can say they regret. This is a line much beyond that, and I think it's absolutely egregious. Did not one entity, organization, or Democrat official in the Commonwealth of Virginia have called on him to step aside? It's pretty absurd, really, because there is no defense. He literally said. Literally said that he wanted this political opponent's children to get killed so that they could feel the pain. Like, think about that. I can't possibly imagine that, right? For the life of me. I don't understand, you know, like, I know Abigail. We disagree on so many things. I've worked with her before. Obviously, I'm strongly backing Winsome Sears and the Republicans in the Commonwealth. But I can't imagine ever, in my most fit of frustration with Abigail ever thinking and writing and communicating. Man, she's got to feel the pain. I hope her kids get killed. I mean, that is psychopathic thinking. You have no business being the Attorney General of a state, much less a state of the historical importance in the literal cradle of democracy of our Republican form of government in Virginia. And for that guy to think that he can possibly be the Attorney General. What worries me is that he can still get elected because of how many, you know, leftists exist up in Northern Virginia and a handful down to Charlottesville. I hate to say, as a University of Virginia graduate, they're pretty. They're pretty Pretty crazy in Charlottesville. I'm afraid that there's too many leftists and they're gonna actually still vote for this guy. But, you know, has Larry Sabineau called on him to step out? I haven't seen him. It's crazy.
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I mean, I worry he is going to get elected. And to your point, it's very scary that there's not an immediate call for him to resign from Democrats in the state. And in fact, they're like, saying they're solidly standing behind him. And it's just terrifying because I think we're seeing a lot of scary things sort of align on the left. It's sort of like this dehumanization of others. This dehumanization of started with President Trump and then extended to his supporters, and now we're seeing it with ICE agents as well. So you have sort of this dehumanization and then also like just the desensitized or. What am I trying to say? They're becoming desensitized to human loss. And like, you know, with Charlie, oh, we saw the reaction after Charlie was murdered of, oh, he deserved it, you know, oh, well, he was a fascist. And we saw this from, you know, a surgeon. We saw this from teachers. We saw this from people in positions of, you know, some authority. Right. And when you, when you combine those two, I just worry that we're going to see more of that. We're going to see more of these assassinations, and then they're going to say, well, they deserved it.
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Well, again, this goes back a little bit to what I was trying to say earlier. I think still somewhat in artfully, when I'm trying to explain the war on our way of life, that evil exists and that this Marxist, Islamist radical worldview, they're not going to stop. Okay? And we have to recognize that war. And I will say, as I said, to Charlie's credit, he understood it. You know, I think back in July, was it that he went over to London and engaged in debates at Oxford and a few other places and was willing to take it on. And look, obviously, you know, the radicals got to him. And I've been telling people out across Texas as I'm campaigning for attorney general, which is another reason I feel so strongly that he should step down. It's just insane that you could, you know, think that you could be the chief law enforcement officer or the chief legal officer. Each state's a little different how it's structured. But. And think that you could stand up and be an advocate for the rule of Law. Having said that, it's insane. I mean, and as I'm going around and campaigning across the state of Texas, I'm reminding people, you know, what are we willing to risk? I don't want my children to grow up in a despotic, tyrannical, Marxist hellhole. Right. That's not. When my great, great grandfather came to, you know, Hays County, Texas, outside of Austin in the 1850s. It's not why he saddled up to become a Texas Ranger. It's not why my grandfather was a police chief. It's not why my family sacrificed over 170 years in tough Texas terrain to figure out how to build a life so that we could have a bunch of totalitarian statists come tell us how to live, or that we've got to adhere to Sharia law, that man is not a man and a woman is not a woman. And, oh, by the way, if you try to kill a Supreme Court justice, don't worry about it. I'll factor in the fact that you're, you know, oh, you're not all together because of this plight you have of your, you know, transgender, whatever it is. It's just. This is insanity. And we have. We have got to reclaim our rightful place as Americans and recognize the war that's being waged against us.
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We're learning that Fox News recently learned that Jack Smith and his Arctic Frost team investigating January six were tracking the phone calls of some members of Congress, like Lindsey Graham, Marsha Blackburn, Ron Johnson, and a few others as well. We also look at the fact that Comey is. Has been indicted facing one count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice stemming from some Testimony gave in 2020. Do you think, you know, obviously these are, you know, two different things, but sort of part of the same weaponization that we saw under the Biden administration. Do you think there'll be any accountability in any of that for any of these people?
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One can certainly hope that this administration will carry out the kind of accountability that I think is due. I will say this. I saw that report yesterday. Obviously, that was put out by Chuck Grassley and then all the news that flowed from that over the last 24 hours. And I got to admit, I didn't really pounce because I know people are getting a little tired of, like, members of Congress who go, oh, this is horrible. This is terrible. And then, you know, we're gonna, what, have a resolution of condemnation, right? Like, people are just getting tired of that. Scott Perry is one of my best friends in Washington. Just Great American patriot. You know, veteran conservative congressman from Pennsylvania, represents R&4 district, but he brings the heat. When I was first in Congress, I spent four years representing a R&4 district that had Austin in it, and I brought the heat. And so we're kind of compatriots of being conservatives in moderate areas now. My district is more conservative. But the bottom line is we've got to have accountability. Now. There's somewhat of a limit to what you can do in Congress. Right. Our hands have been tied somewhat with subpoenas by the court. You've got, you know, if you're not using. Willing to use the power of the purse, most mostly often we're not. It's hard to have accountability. And that usually only works when you've got the other party in the executive branch. So right now we've got President Trump and we've got Cash, and we've got Pam Bondi and we've got, as you pointed out, Scott Bessant in terms of treasury, all these ways in which we can go pursue the truth. And I think we've got to pursue the truth, and I think we've got to have some heads roll for some of the things that were carried out against the American people. You can't have the government spying on United States senators. It's absurd, right? I mean, I remember when my text messages were released that I'd had exchanges with Mark Meadows, and now Mark voluntarily released those, by the way, and that's fine. And we went back and forth, and what it showed was I was working hard to try to figure out the nature of the mail in fraud and the fraud perpetrated in the 2020 elections. As we built up to figuring out how everything was unfolding, I ultimately disagreed with the idea that we should reject the electors because I don't think we should empower the vice President to make that decision. That's not what this whole conversation is about. But it's important for the context that my text messages were released in which I was saying, I think I said, quote, hey, we need more work. We need, give us the ammo. I think was one of my quotes. And the New York Times and the Post were like, this guy is, you know, he's asking for ammo to go, you know, try to, you know, take down the Biden presidency and so forth. These guys want to come after any one of us who challenged the regime. And now you've got not just Scott Perry in the House and other House members, but you got these senators. And I think heads need to roll. And I hope the executive branch will take action. I hope Congress will too. We need to have hearings. We need to expose it. But we need action. The American people are tired. Tired of talk.
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You mentioned Sharia law earlier. I know that you've co sponsored legislation from Representative Fine to ensure that no US Court, public agency, legal institution can ever enforce or legitimize Sharia law. Also, in the state of Texas, Governor Abbott signed a bill into law to ban residential property developments from creating Sharia compounds and defrauding and discriminating against Texans. You know, why do you think that this is getting sort of renewed focus or why is there more attention being paid to concerns around Sharia law right now?
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Well, it's because there is a specific effort for the Islamists. And by Islamists I mean not someone who just adheres into a belief in Islam. And we can have a debate about that itself. But the Islamist and the Sharia law adherents who are political, okay, which is, by the way, directly in conflict with our Constitution and the Declaration and antithetical to our American values. So yes, I co sponsor that legislation, which I think, by the way, is somewhat redundant. It's a, it would be a federal law saying, hey, Sharia is not applicable in any of our courts. I don't think it's applicable in our courts anyway under the Constitution. But it's important for Congress to state that. So I applaud Congressman Fine and the colleagues of mine who joined in co sponsoring. I've got legislation I'm going to introduce next week, maybe even tomorrow, trying to get it drafted, finalized that will severely restrict or make more difficult through vetting process, the ability of anybody who adheres to Sharia, anybody who adheres to the Islamist kind of politically motivated efforts from being admitted to the United States. Now why, to answer your question, why is this a problem? Well, you see it in Dearborn, you see it in Minneapolis, you see it in Epic City. You referenced the bill in Texas that Governor Abbott signed to restrict this thing. It's called Epic City. For those who don't know, it's a compound like 400 acres outside of Plano, Texas, used to be known as a conservative bastion suburban north of Dallas, and it's the East Plano Islamic Center, I think, is what EPIC stands for. And it was basically going to be a massive kind of compound to a Sharia adherence. And so this legislation was passed and said, well, you can't do that. The problem is I'm not sure it's going to stop it. Right? It might stop it to a degree, but they're going to, I think, continue to develop. They're going to say, yeah, we're not going to do Sharia, but then they are. And so we're going to have to work through that. Deceptive Trade Practices Act. Other things you can do in the AG's office. But we've got a lot we need to do to combat this. Let's just cut to the chase, right? When the problem with Islam is that it is political at its core with a goal of crushing the west, right? And that's the truth. I mean, why do you think we're seeing what's unfolding in Syria or Nigeria? Why do you think we're seeing this cleansing of Christians, right? Do we think that somehow America is going to be immune from that? I mean, like Boko Haram, right? That's, I think basically translates to like, you know, Western education or Western civilization is, you know, sacrilege, right? It's something like that. That's what it literally translates to. And I don't think people recognize this. And it's all a part of the process. Once there's a majority of the Muslim population, go look at London, go look at Paris, go see what's happening, go understand what's happening with the push of Islam into Western civilization, into America, and you'll know that that war is being waged against us and we're not responding.
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How much of an increase, concern and threat is this all considering we just had wide open Borders for four years under Joe Biden.
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Massive, massive concern because you have people who came here illegally. That's a problem. You have, you have people who came here legally who overstay their visas. That's a problem. You have people who are released into the United States and came here legally either through the siv, which is the special interest, I think visas after Afghanistan or other H1B, all the big workers, the big corporatists. Don't get me started on corporatism. We should do a whole other podcast interview on corporatism. But all of that has literally hundreds of thousands, millions of people coming into our country that are in fact adherence to Sharia or they're certainly hardcore in their beliefs in Islam. And then we saw last week, USCIS pointed out that there was massive fraud and a whole lot of the what we call diversity applications and chain migration where it's like, oh, my wife needs to come here. And then you had people marrying under false pretenses. Obviously there's all the rumors about Elon Omar, but we know that there was fraud perpetrated. And so you have this expanding population and then you have birthright citizenship and anchor babies and you have this massive growing population. And it's a problem. If you believe in our Western civilization values, if you believe in Christ as our Savior, if you believe that our Judeo Christian principles and the founding principles of this country and the declaration of the Constitution are sacrosanct and central to our being and our communities. I mean look, you're going to be waking up to a mosque on every block with all of their traditions and all of the prayer calls and all of the stuff going on and then inserting into the schools, you see what's happening in DFW airport or essentially a religious non denominational prayer room which historically would have been Episcopalians and Baptists being able to pray in the same room. Now you got fricking prayer mats and it's being taken over by, by Muslim adherence and Islamic adherence and you've now got a total change in our culture. And I think that's going to be destructive to who we are as a people. And we need to reconcile that.
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It's your point. DHS did a sweep in Minneapolis St. Paul area and found that 50% of immigrants had committed some sort of immigration fraud.
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Right.
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So pretty remarkable. Yeah. They visited 1,000 homes across Minneapolis and St. Paul and found nearly 50% of inhabitants were engaged in some sort of immigration fraud.
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B
Yeah. The press conference for that was a guy named Joe Edlow who's the head of uscis, who's a good friend of mine, worked together, he was a staffer on the House Judiciary Committee. Great guy. And they, they, you know, we talked about this back before he was confirmed and they've gone through, done the research, done the review, and they're putting that out there. Now we got to act. Right? What are we going to do? Do you find that fraud and you prove up the fraud, then we need to remove these people. Right. Because fraud is fraud and you shouldn't be the beneficiary of your fraudulent act.
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A
Absolutely. I want to end on the shutdown. It's allowed us to have some time to free to have you on the podcast today, but, you know, maybe not the best for the country. How do you think this will end? You know, what are the off ramps? And who do you think has more leverage right now in this shutdown fight?
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B
Republicans will hold the line and Republicans will stand behind the president. I believe we have the leverage, and here's why. I think Newt Gingrich said it very well, actually, when he said, look, Democrats have picked a fight on two things. The American people don't like. The American people generally don't like a shutdown. Fair enough. Right. You got to deal with troop pay that expires and it's destabilizing. And the American people also don't like profligate increased government spending. So Democrats have picked a shutdown fight to spend more money, both to give money to illegal aliens for health care, but importantly, and I'm saying this more than some of my colleagues are, because they're afraid to talk about health care, and I'm not, they're doing it to expand the COVID era subsidies under Obamacare. They're taking that massive expansion. They want to extend it. And all that money goes into the pockets of insurance companies. So basically, they want to enrich insurance companies and fund illegal aliens health care, and they're shutting down the government to accomplish those objectives. I don't see that as having the upper hand so long as Republicans hold the line. What I worry is that Republicans will claim victory on stopping illegal aliens from getting health care, which, by the way, we got a lot of those victories in the big beautiful bill working together with the president and his great team to do it. But I worry that some of our more moderate members will say, well, we'll stop that. Which by the way, was never gonna happen. We were never gonna give in to the Democrats demands to give healthcare to illegal aliens. But instead that they'll then try to Cut a deal and say, well, but these subsidies are important, so let's have more subsidies. No Republican has ever voted for one of these subsidies. And we should. Now they're driving up the cost of health care, empowering insurance companies, empowering mega hospital corporations at the expense of doctors and patients. And that is why you can't afford health care. That's why the average family of four spends $25,000 a year on insurance to get a massive deductible and a massive copay. To have to call some person in either Topeka or India to beg to find out which doctor they can actually use in a network and have to drive an hour to. To go see this doctor that they didn't have a choice in choosing. That's what Obamacare has given us. We have the upper hand. We should hold the line. No more subsidies, no more legals getting pay. Democrats shut down the government. It's their choice. Let them explain to soldiers when their paycheck doesn't come in on October 15th that they're not getting paid because they want illegals to have healthcare or they want insurance companies to get rich. I don't think they can win that if we hold the line.
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A
I agree. So hopefully your colleagues will listen to that and we'll hold the line. Congressman Chip Roy, appreciate you for taking the time. Thanks for, you know, obviously a lot going on as we started the show with saying so appreciate you taking the time to. To give us your insight into all these different issues facing the country in the world right now.
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B
Well, thanks for all you do. Thanks for your show. It's so important for you to get the message out. Lisa, you do a great job and happy to come on anytime. God bless.
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A
And then before we go, obviously you're running for attorney general in Texas. Where can people find information for that?
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B
Shiproy.com or on Twitter slash X? I still call it both. Chiproy Tx C H I P R O I T X. Appreciate it. And you know, bottom in Congress another 14, 15 months fighting and, and look forward to serving the people of Texas statewide as the Attorney General. Thanks, Lisa.
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A
That was Congressman Chip Roy running for Attorney General in the state of Texas. Appreciate him for coming on the show. Appreciate you guys for listening. Listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I also want to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together. Until next time, this is an iHeart podcast.