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Lisa Booth
Buckle up and get ready for a hard hitting episode of the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we will expose the hypocrisy and the potential criminality of New York Attorney General Letitia James. You know who is the one who relentlessly pursued President Trump claiming no one was above the law. But now the tables have turned. Federal officials have referred James for criminal prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud tied to properties in Virginia and New York. So today we're diving deep into these explosive allegations with Paul Morrow. You know him from Fox News. He's also former NYPD Legal Bureau commanding officer and executive officer of the Intelligence, Operations and Analysis Bureau. So let's just say he knows a thing or two about all of this. So what exactly did James do, and will she face consequences? She's also running for reelection for Attorney General. So will this derail that? We're going to ask Paul all these tough questions, plus we'll get his take on. On why these judges are blocking President Trump's mass deportation plans. Was this the plan from the left all along that they knew that he wouldn't be able to do these mass deportations? Kind of brilliant, to be honest, but problematic for a country. Get ready for the Unfiltered Truth with Paul Morrow. Stay tuned. Well, Paul, it's great to have you back on the show. Lots happened I've had you on, so I appreciate you making the time.
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Paul Morrow
Of course, anytime.
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Lisa Booth
So, first, I wanted to get into all this resistance that President Trump is facing as he tries to deport illegal aliens who came here. You know, apparently open borders are perfectly acceptable, but if you try to deport any of these people, a judge will try to stop you. Why do you think he's being met with so much resistance? And, you know, do you think the Trump administration's following the letter of the law and trying to deport these people?
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Paul Morrow
Well, talk about being on the wrong side of history, huh? This is going to shake out retrospectively, I think, as maybe one of the biggest blunders that the left has ever engaged in, which is a big statement because the American people are really not on board with this. And they're making, that is, the Dems are making it a very simple sort of bilateral choice. You know, it's just really a choice of A or B, a, we have a safe country, B, we don't. And they seem to have missed the message of the last election because it was probably the main thing driving the election, maybe the economy a little bit more. But, you know, the, the border really was the most salient issue because it was really just a such a clear choice. Now, I do think that there is an element of sort of caprice here in that they cognizantly, that is, the Dems did let in 10 to 12 million unvetted migrants, knowing that it was going to be almost impossible to get them all out. And so now the expectation is, okay, fight the Republicans tooth and nail, fight Donald Trump tooth and nail. And at some point, you'll have to cut a deal because you realistically cannot give full due process to 10 to 12 million illegals. The entire system will shut down. And so I respect the idea of the worst first, but the pledge to get rid of 10 to 12 million illegals, to eject them, I should say, from the country, is just not feasible. And so the Trump administration really does face a dilemma because it was the promise, and the Dems are fighting it tooth and nail to make sure that full due process has to apply to all 10 to 12 million. And I do wonder if that was not the plan all along. And at some point, a deal will have to be cut. Millions stay, and they're going to thank the Democratic Party by becoming full citizens and voting.
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Lisa Booth
Well, Paul, as you were talking, that was the thought bubble that just popped into my mind. Like, what a genius plan, right?
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Paul Morrow
They knew.
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Lisa Booth
They knew that you wouldn't be able to offer due process to all these individuals and that he would be stopped and trying to deport mass, you know, deportation. So it's brilliant. You open the southern border, you let the floodgates go in, you get a new voter base that gives you power, and then now the fight moving forward is going to be, you know, how do we prevent all these people from voting in the future?
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Paul Morrow
Right.
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Lisa Booth
It's. It's a whole new year. You're basically importing, you know, an entire state full of people. Yeah, it's crazy.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, it really is. And, you know, you don't have to speculate too far. It's like we're way out on a limb here because New York City already tried it got voted down in the highest court in New York State, but it went that far. And they tried to give illegals full voting rights here in New York City. So they're very clearly testing the waters. And, you know, we're saying the quiet part out loud. By now, it's become pretty clear that Joe Biden was not pulling these strings. And so someplace in the inner cabal, whatever, Hunter was actually running the government in America for four years. Somebody in there came up with this plan and just said, look, flood the zone. And then when the time comes, were we to lose, they'll never be able to get them out. And over time, it's just going to be a fait accompli. So you're right. There is an Element, you have to say there was an element of political genius to it. And yet it's one of the reasons that they lost both houses and the presidency. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if they win the next election, if the economy does anything like the Trump people want it to do, because as I said, they've made it just such a clear, you know, in this age of so much white noise, to be able to just point to an issue and make it very, very simple that we are on the side of safety and they are not, you know, guys like Van Hollen are making it easy, you know.
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Lisa Booth
And how dangerous did some of these people make our country? I mean, you look at places like New York City, for example, you know, how much more dangerous did some of these individuals, this influx of new people coming into the country, make some of our communities.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, it's a good, it's a good question, because there's no real metric for it. Right. You know, because the, the cities, you know, New York State is a century state, New York City is a sanctuary city. And you know, you see that pattern around the country in terms of blue cities and blue states. And so as a result, you can't really test it and you can't prove a negative. But that said, that said, look, we have to do is have eyes. And if you walk around the city, if nothing else, let's even take the arrests as a metric off the table. All right? If nothing else here in New York City, and I'm sure it's going around in the rest of the country, you have displaced the homeless and mentally ill population from the vast majority of the city run shelters because they had to be given over to migrants. And it's just a cascading effect because then what happens is you have to take over hotels. Midtown in New York City is dying. I know a couple of people now in my neighborhood who have restaurants who are just looking to close up shop or have because the tourist trade has dropped off. And all of these things just lean on each other. They all influence each other. They all lead one to another. And it's because you have a much worse visible homeless problem. Some of them are migrants, but not all. And it's because they've had to house in New York City. By Eric Adams Underestimation as many as 100,000. And then of course, there is the fact that you and I have spoken about on the air so often, which is that, look, we have enough of our perps. If you let in 10 to 12 million unvetted people, and you take 1% of them that you've just let in 100,000 new criminals. We don't have enough of our own. We got to import them. And no vetting was done. You and I both know that the CHNV program was a huge force multiplier for the migrant criminal element, for the gangs and the cartels, and they were paid for to come. We literally shipped them in on our time and our dime. So it was just madness. And when you say to yourself, why would any nation do this to itself? You have to say to yourself, there's got to be someplace in there some hidden objective. And I think you and I teased it out a few minutes ago, which is they're expecting this to be a massive Democratic voting block at some point.
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Lisa Booth
Well, and we haven't even, you know, I mean, we haven't seen this. But there have been threats. You know, you had Christopher Wray warn about some terrorists. You know, we know that we've seen a record number of terrorists on the watch list try to enter in the United States. So who knows who has actually been let in here? I mean, you've worked at the intelligence operations at the nypd. How much of a threat is that still? And how concerned are you that that will materialize in the near future?
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Paul Morrow
Put it this way. They'd have to be morons. And when I say they now, I'm going to switch to a little bit more of a nation state argument here. The Chinese and other nations that mean it's less than North Koreans, but certainly the Chinese, the Iranians, and the Russians, they'd have to be morons not to take advantage of the fact that New York, excuse me, America, blew open its open borders. It's particularly a southern border to any comer. They'd have to be complete idiots not to have taken advantage of that. And I can tell you they're not complete idiots. All right, so there are numerous examples that we could cite, and, you know, that's just the tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to go back to a historical. There's a rubric here for this, and that's the Mariel boat lift during the 70s under Jimmy Carter, because Castro took that opportunity to open up his jails and his insane asylums to about 150,000 Cubans who wanted to leave that island. And he. They mostly were not criminals and insane people, but there were plenty. But one thing that's often lost to history is that he also reportedly flooded Florida with a good number of intelligence agents. Cuba has a very active intelligence apparatus. It always has. They've trained Venezuelans and they were all Soviet trained at the time. So 100, 150 Cuban assets into Florida, reportedly some of them. And it's none of this is classified or anything. Reportedly still active and set up networks. And one of the things they do is they rip off the benefits system and they're just trained to do that. They know there are tremendous holes in our benefits system and it's just another way to drain the American treasury and to support there a lot of these intelligence operations by these foreign adversaries. They are self funding because of things like this. And the Cubans did it, you know, for a fact, the Russians must have been doing it. We know that there were 50,000 unvetted Chinese that came in through the southern border. The idea that none of them were intelligence assets beggars belief. And so, yeah, we've thrown ourselves open and we may never really know the extent of the damage, but at some point it'll become apparent, you know.
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Lisa Booth
So I want to get into this Tish James situation. So the Attorney General of New York, she told us that no one was above the law. And it turns out there's some stuff in her background that could potentially get her in legal trouble. You know, what do you make of some of these allegations against her and the allegation of mortgage fraud?
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, so I am actually very conversant with this because the person who did the investigations and who found all of this stuff is a guy named Sam Antar. And he wanted happenstance things. I know him from around my neighborhood. It's just he knows I had a podcast, he knows I appear on Fox. So he brought it all to me and I kind of teased it out. I waited until he really had something concrete. But he brings me the documents and they're just inarguable. So it doesn't mean she's guilty. She's innocent until proven guilty just like anybody else. But that said, there is a lot of smoke to the point that I think there's going to have to be a fire here because sammy@whitecallerfraud.com that's his blog where he lays it all out, has the primary documents and she's really put herself in the box on two main issues. There's a bunch of attendant issues that are sort of collateral. But she's got one main thing in that she very clearly seems to have signed two documents right in the lead up to her case against Donald Trump that show she signed and had notarized a power of attorney, wherein she pledged that Virginia, a house that she was buying in Virginia was going to be her primary residence. This is while she's the New York State Attorney General. And then she did the same thing for the mortgage application for that same property. She also has a house, another house in Virginia that apparently she values at about 100 to $150,000. You give a range in your disclosures. It's valued according to the mortgages on it. Because there's like three or four mortgages on it, over 500,000, which is exactly what she went up to Donald Trump for, literally over mortgaging a property. And then her other problem is here in Brooklyn, she has an apartment building that throughout the history of the building has been listed by the New York City, the authorities here in New York City as having a certificate of occupancy, according to the Department of Buildings, as having five apartments, five different residences. Every time she's mortgaged it and she's remortgaged it, she applied for a distressed loan and everything else. She puts it at four and numerous times over and over. Why does that matter? For the same reason that the Virginia thing's a problem, because she puts down four so that she can get a more favorable rate. That's why she pledged the Virginia property to be a primary residence. You get a more favorable mortgage rate now. There's been complaints about it up here in Brooklyn. Apparently they were washed away. They were swept under the rug because she is who she is. You also have to say to yourself, how in Virginia could she encumber properties with over $500,000 when they're worth a fifth of that? And you got to say, people in the loan industry must have been complicit from where I sit. So you got a real investigation here where people could flip. You're going to have to pull documents, you're going to have to dump emails. All that's going to go on, not at the criminal referral has gone to doj. And that's why she's holding fundraisers, I'm sure, so that she can lawyer up. Because I think she's got real problems here and she's going to frankly, be lucky to retain her law license, never mind her political career.
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Lisa Booth
Well, and also like really creepy back in, I think it was like from 1983 to 2000 for a property she purchased with her father. She apparently listed them as husband, wife.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, that apparently happened way back. She was 20 years old. It's a little unclear to me as to why that would get you a more favorable rate or more favorable treatment from a bank. Maybe she, she thought it made her look more stable if she was married. And she said, yeah, I'm going into this with my husband. Yeah, you're right, that did happen. The statute of limitations would have run on that, but it's part of the whole pattern here. And look, this is what Sam Anar was able to uncover without subpoena power. You can imagine what's going to happen when DOJ digs into this with the ability to go to a judge and get a search warrant, a subpoena and rip all of those financial records. I think she's really got trouble here and it's just mind boggling because she was doing precisely what she went after Donald Trump for. It's just really a, let's be frank. It's really a delicious irony because most of us in the legal community thought that her case against Trump was entirely trumped up. No pun intended.
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Lisa Booth
Do you think from what we know now and as you said, you know they'll learn more. Right. As they investigate. But do you think from what we know now and what you just laid out, does that constitute mortgage fraud after under federal or New York state law?
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Paul Morrow
Oh, God, yeah. They're going to be able to find all kinds of cases. She's one thing she's not going to be able to do is to say that. I mean, she'll say it, but it's not going to fly. She when she claims, are you targeting me? These are the kind of cases that are never brought. Yeah, that's not going to work because they're going to be able to point to numerous, numerous instances of I can tell you for one thing, the thing with the certificate of occupancy, they go after that all the time here in the city. And in this case, you actually do have a victim, unlike the Donald Trump situation where the loan was given to Donald Trump with the full cognizance of the bank, were happy to give it to him and he paid it all back. And they were happy to get the interest. In this case, the banks can claim, hey, we were supposed to be charging a higher mortgage rate all along. She owes us the interest difference here for whatever, how many years. So you do have a victim. So absolutely, she's potentially on the hook for mortgage fraud. All those charges that the feds always lay around. They're going to have mortgage fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, scheme to defraud, probably a conspiracy charge. I would think they're going to be looking at the cousin, they're going to be looking at the loan officers. I'd be looking to flip everybody because as you know, you flip up, you don't flip down. And I would say give it about six months, but I think that six months from now, you're probably going to hear this stuff going into a grand jury, and God only knows what else they're going to find. Because anybody who would be operating with such impunity and had such arrogance to be doing what it appears she was doing while going after Donald Trump was likely not very defensive, let's say, in texts and emails. They may not have been very cautious about all of that, and it could lead them in all kinds of directions. I really think she's opened herself up to trouble and then.
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Lisa Booth
How much trouble? Well, also, it's kind of hard to argue when you're the Attorney General that, like, you don't know the law, right? Like, it's like that just doesn't fly. It's like, of all people, you should know the law. You know, if you don't know the law. Attorney General.
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Paul Morrow
Exactly. I mean, I, you know, I did a search. I, you know, just threw it into AI and her office has prosecuted similar cases. There's no way she can say, well, you know, I'm going to claim ignorance, first of all, it's not a defense, number one. But number two, people are going to say, oh, yeah, well, what about, you know, these 15 people that you're locked up on similar charges? Because the AG's office does a lot of financial stuff, a lot of things they do. So, look, this is now a personal experience. I had to deal with her a few times, you know, when I was. Yeah, she's. She's pretty much. She's what you would expect. I mean, during my primary contacts with her was when I was commanding officer at a legal bureau for the NYPD. And, you know, she's just. It was during the 2020, quote, unquote, summer of Love, and they were trying to burn down the city. They were literally trying to burn down Macy's. I was there, you know, so I can attest to it. Billion dollars in damage, I'm sure, just in New York City. And while bricks were bouncing off the faces of my cops, quite literally, you know, I had to go and watch one of my lieutenants get his face sewn back together from a brick that hit him in the face, I had to deal with the fact that all she wanted to do was lock up cops. She was putting out on Twitter anybody that has anything approaching an encounter with the police that's unprofessional. DM me directly. And these cops were undermanned. They were running around 247 trying to save the city from a riotous mob that was using the George Floyd thing as Cover for all of their frustrations with whatever they. Ostensibly, the whole BLM thing. And as the ostensible chief law enforcement officer for New York State, she did nothing. You know, I was waiting for an offer of assistance and we got none. And the amount of damage done to the city, number of cops who got injured, et cetera, et cetera, I could go on. It's a little bit of an old story right now, but it was very clear what side of that whole thing she was on. And of course, all of it now has been shown to be completely bankrupt. BLM was a scam. If you really want to dig into it, we can, you know, sort of re. Litigate the whole George Floyd thing. I'm not here to discuss. Yeah, I mean, you know, look, you. If you've probably heard about the documentary about it, and here's a guy that did push in robbery by holding a gun to the, to the belly of a pregnant woman, this guy was no hero. There should be no statues to George Floyd around the nation. Let's be clear. And you know, Derek Siobhan has his own appeals process. That's the, that's the cop. But when you see that the autopsy report for George Floyd has him with what, three different forms of drugs in his system. The film, the video of him when he was trying to pass the counterfeit money in the, in the bodega before the cops came. If you look at the video in that documentary that came out about it, you can see him swallow a pill when the cops come up to him because he doesn't want to get caught with possession. There are mitigating factors. Now, I do not want to re litigate that whole thing just because I, you know, you really have to go deep on it. And the documentary that came out about it, there was pushback on that as well. And I'm not deep enough into it to be able to really speak authoritatively about whether or not Siobhan got a fair trial. Didn't get a fair trial. Was it just a pile on. But what I will speak about is that the reaction was completely just an opportunistic chance for some of the worst race hustlers in this country to get their wish list. And as a result, you got criminal justice reforms that are now to this day continuing to harm the very communities who they ostensibly are supposed to help. Because where the crimes are occurring, who gets shot? Young black men, that's who gets shot. That's just a matter of numbers. But yet we're supposed to all sort of hide our Eyes and act like that's not going on. That's who suffers from this thing. Not the limousine liberals who have penthouses on Park Avenue. You know that. I know that in their hearts, most people know that. But it's about control. And as I said, I was there. And very clearly she was part of that whole opportunistic pylon. And it's amazing that she left herself open to this.
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Lisa Booth
Although it's like, sort of rich that in New York City, it's like she's doing the very thing she went after Donald Trump did or didn't do. I mean, there's question. You know, there's questions about. Because there weren't. The banks were happy with him. Right. Like, they didn't feel like they were defrauded or anything. So that's Right. You know, so she goes after him while knowing full well that she has done, you know, worse, probably. Right. While then going after, you know, then New York City goes after people like Daniel Penny or Jose Alba for trying to defend themselves, meanwhile letting criminals out on the streets. It's like, what. What the hell is justice in a city like New York?
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, you got to really ask yourself. And, you know, we're now teed up. And, you know, I tell people this, and I get these incredulous looks. You know, we're teed up for an Andrew Cuomo mayoralty. He's going to win, barring something crazy. And it's an amazing thing because it's. It's an amazing thing to watch, because what it is, is hyper progressives, especially in Manhattan island where I live, that have to sort of cut a deal with themselves. There are. There's no universe under which they could vote for even a moderate Republican or even an independent who leans to the right. There's a guy named J. Walden here who is probably, you know, center. Right, maybe just center. You know, there's just no way they can bring themselves to do that. So they would rather. But. But voting for Cuomo is something of an admission of how wrong they've gotten things, because Cuomo is running on a platform of just the kind of things you and I are talking about. Restoring law and order, getting the homeless off the streets, restoring some sanity to the city. And yet they know he's the one who signed the bills that created a lot of this. He signed into law not only all the COVID mess, but the criminal justice reforms that have just completely destroyed quality of life in New York City. I don't care what anybody says. I'm living here. My whole life in various capacities. And it was really in a renaissance, this town. You know, the tourism was going up every year. They were breaking new records. Crime drops were going up every year. And that was just too successful for everybody. And so the de Blasio administration, in collusion with the Cuomo administration on a state level, passed this slate of criminal justice reforms that we're still suffering from. But the left cannot countenance the idea that we're going to undo that stuff. They're fighting every little incremental attempt to change. And Cuomo is their grand bargain. Well, you know what? He had a bunch of sex harassment stuff. Yeah, he caused a lot of this. But you know what he's saying the right things will look away. And he's going to be the next mayor, and he probably will be for eight years.
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We also talked about before about how like even the statistics for crime in places like New York City don't matter as much if people aren't being arrested. And so like they don't really gauge how bad things are if you know, these criminals aren't being arrested and thrown behind the bars. Right. So like, even those numbers don't give like the full picture. Right. For places like New York City and some of these cities.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah, no, that's exactly, that's absolutely right. The, the, in the confluence of the insurance industry and the criminal justice reforms, the bail reforms, et cetera, that's really the sort of sour spot rather than sweet spot where all this comes together. Because it's why in New York we lock up our toothpaste but not our criminals. Because if you are a Rite Aid or a CVS or any of the big, you know, drugstore chains around the city and there's, you know, a plethora them, you don't even call the police anymore because if you do, they come. That's a report. Your insurance goes up. If a security guard very often who's an off duty cop tussles with a homeless person who comes in and just fills a bag worth with stuff and leaves, you then end up having a complaint. And there is a host of lawyers lined up to sue over that. And the insurance companies will tell you, well, you got to get rid of that security guard, otherwise we're going to drop you. The local precinct doesn't want to catch these numbers. They don't even a misdemeanor number, okay, they'll live with that. But if a security guard tussles with a homeless guy who's stealing toothpaste, now it bumps to a felony robbery. Now the crime statistics go up. So there is this sort of metric that is tacit here that everybody is trying to avoid, which is any of these quality of life crimes that could make things look worse to downtown where all of this stuff is counted up and where the newspapers get their articles. And so as a result, there's this whole shadow world of crime that nobody acknowledges. And look, we have a pretty good police commission now. Jessica Tish is doing what she can, but the cops and she are operating within a system that's just been gamed against them. The system hates the police, hates the prosecutors. Really, I hear just as much grief from line level prosecutors as I do from the cops themselves. They just can't get a case to trial. Everything is dropped. It's dropped down at the least, from a felony to a misdemeanor. And all these things are done to perpetuate a fiction that the city is as safe as it used to be. And it's just not.
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Lisa Booth
Do you think so, Tish James. Let's just say James is running for reelection as Attorney, New York Attorney General, 2026. Do you think this mortgage stuff, like, how quickly could it pick up? I wonder how much of an impact that would have on the Attorney General's race.
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Paul Morrow
I think she's done. Yeah. You know, like if this were the Biden administration, I would say, well, you know what? They'll just let it sit there and it'll die and they'll just obfuscate it. Because that was a, just a, I don't know, it was an administration that had no soul. The, the, the complete farce at the southern border was proof of that. Never mind a host of other things that have not. I mean, what. There was not one federal case. Think about that. There was not one DOJ case against Trend Aragua. They didn't make one conspiracy case or gang case, gang, you know, a RICO case, nothing like that against any of these guys. They just decided to punt. I don't know what the heck they did. They had literally had. You've seen the numbers. Half of the FBI working on the January 6 thing. And the metric there, and I have this direct from a source, was that if your foot touched the Capitol steps, you were going to get arrested. And so they had half the FBI scanning videos, looking for old ladies whose feet touched the steps and then trying to use facial recognition software to figure out who they were to go out and make an arrest. And I don't have to really even speculate that much, when I was talking to somebody who was on an FBI task force the other day, who I guess is a source now, he's an old friend, told me that when Donald Trump won, there were FBI agents at their desks with their heads down, crying. And I said to him, you know, men and he was. Yeah, yeah. Young men in the FBI, you know, this is, these are the guys that were hired during the Obama years and everything else. So the old FBI, a lot of respect for and then. True. You know, in advertising here, I didn't always see eye to eye with them. You know, we had a lot of interagency battles and all that. I got the scars to prove it. Some I won, some I lost. Generally, it was better to just kind of cooperate and try to find a middle ground, you know, But I never took it personally. I saw very few of them who I thought had some sort of political ulterior motive. I don't know that you can say that anymore. So now with a Trump DOJ and with Pam Bondi in there, she's not going to sit on this. She's going to look at this and say, are you kidding? She gifted us this case. This thing's going to a grand jury and they're going to get indictments. And I don't see how you can be an attorney general when you may have a felony indictment or prosecution and conviction on your record. You're automatically going to lose your license and you can't be an attorney general without a law license. So I think she's in real trouble. As I was saying earlier, look, it is at this point, she hasn't been charged, she hasn't been indicted. None of that stuff has happened. But according to the stuff that's public, even some on the left there, and I won't name them, but there's some news outlets on the left who are willing to even say, yeah, it looks to be trouble here for the. Just the fact that the New York Times reported on it, that must have killed them. But they had report. There's a lot of smoke here. The fact that they would do that, when you consider how much stuff they're willing to ignore, tells me that even they're willing to accede to the idea that she really seems to have blundered.
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Lisa Booth
Yeah. And so, Paul, on that note, before we go, obviously, you know, you'd mentioned the New York Times that even some, you know, more liberal outlets are saying that what she did was bad. But you know, there is, this can be this argument that it's a political persecution. The irony is that these are going to be the people who wanted the FBI and were cheering on what was happening to Donald Trump. So they're hypocrites. But is there any credibility to that? Or is this just so bad and so blatant that it needs to be prosecuted?
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Paul Morrow
The Latter because she's a public servant, because she's supposed to be New York state's top law enforcement officer and top prosecutor. But you know what the irony is? The guy who discovered it, Sam Antar, who I referenced earlier, he was arrested himself back in the 70s for a financial crime and he ended up flipping. He testified for the prosecution and has since worked for the government, assisting them since then for whatever it's been, 40, 50 years working with the government to help them put together financial crime cases. He's a Democrat. He's not a Donald Trump. He's got no, he hasn't had no contacts with the Donald Trump regime administration. So, so that argument is going to fall flat. She's going to make it and her proxies will make it of course as well. But it's not going to hold water. And I got to tell you, the problem for her is the documents. She's going to have to. What's she going to claim that the documents are fake? The bank is going to give it all up. She's going to have people that are going to be afraid that they're going to get caught up in this. And if the deal is, hey, look, you're going to get charged with conspiracy here or you're going to tell us what happened. You're going to get some 30 year old loan officer who's going to say, well, she was the attorney general, I thought it was okay, but I guess I was wrong. Yeah, these are her documents. I will attest to that. The documents are authentic. And boom, you got it right there. For all the fraud stuff. We talked about perjury, a whole host of federal crimes because the banks are involved, that bumps it all. The federal. And as I said, she can spout all she wants, but they have the receipts.
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Lisa Booth
Well, Paul, really interesting stuff. I'd love to have you back on as this stuff like pops, right? Like I'd love to have you on as we, as we learn more and as the investigation moves on. So it's, it's just like at the iron is just so rich. It's just like, you know, it's really amazing.
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Paul Morrow
It really is. I'd love to come back. You let me know and yeah, I'll keep you guys updated.
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Lisa Booth
You're the best. I really appreciate your time. Good stuff. Very interesting.
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Paul Morrow
Sure. Anytime. Anytime. Thank you, Lisa.
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Molly Roberts
That was Paul Morrow.
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Lisa Booth
We appreciate him making the time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. Until next time.
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