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The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Tudor Dixon: Michigan’s Next Power Player?
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Tudor Dixon
My friend Tudor Dixon on the show today. She is the host of the Tudor Dixon Podcast. She previously ran for governor in Michigan and she might be running again. We'll get into that. But I want to know, how is Trump doing? You know, what does she think of the administration so far? Also, you look at the Tesla firebombings and how unhinged the left is. Is this an outlier or just a pattern of behavior from the left? Also want to get her take on these trumps 25% auto tariff. You have groups like UAW love it. But then also some of these critics are saying that car prices could jump anywhere from 4,000 to 15,000. She lives in the state of Michigan. We all know that Detroit is the auto capital of the world. So what does she think? Which side is she on? Or is it maybe somewhere in the middle? Also, Dems are looking at a record low 27% approval rating. What's next for them? Where does the Democrat party go from here? And lastly, as I mentioned before, is she running again? Her name has been floated for a possible senatorial run. Also maybe a gubernatorial run as well. What is she thinking? Will she let us know on today's episode? Stay tuned for my friend, Tutor Dixon. Well, Tudor Dixon, it's great to have you on, my friend. I've missed you.
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Molly Roberts
I mean, I know you're so busy. I watch what you're doing. I'm so impressed. I see you on Fox and Friends weekend and I just love it. Every time you're on, I love it because I feel like, oh, it's my friend.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, I love you. We met at a conference and it was like stepbrothers. Did we just become best friends? Also, I was just telling Tutor that my morning started off with me knocking over my Starbucks latte into my makeup brush bag. So just all my makeup brushes Covered in latte.
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Molly Roberts
And then I selfishly thought, I honestly, I want to feel really sad about it, but I selfishly thought, great, now I have to really be good on this because she's already had a bad day and I have to lift her up. Isn't that.
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Tudor Dixon
I know. Well, that's what I said to a mike tutor. I need you to carry this interview. So I'm like, no, no pressure, but all the predators. Kidding. Well, I'm great. I'm so glad to have you on. Obviously a lot to discuss, a lot going on in the country and also potentially. Well, there's always a lot going on with you, but you know, potentially some big announcements maybe in the future that we'll get into. But let's start off with just, you know, how you think the past couple months have been going with the Trump administration. How is he doing so far? What's, what's sort of your, your assessment of, you know, this first period of time?
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Molly Roberts
Well, I of course think he's doing great because I love what he's doing. But it's not me alone. It would be one thing if it was just me saying that and the country was like, oh gosh, this is a disaster. But you see that his approval ratings are staying high. The Democrats approval ratings are the lowest they've ever been. And they're kind of in a meltdown. I mean, they're not even talking policy stuff. They're just out there swearing and making fun of people. And so I think that that for us is good. But what Donald Trump has been doing has been phenomenal when it comes to just going in there. And no other president has said, I'm going to cut was I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. And then gotten in there on day one and been like, okay, we've got the people in place to do this. And it's interesting to me that that scared people because it's what we all voted for. But there's this faction of very loud people who keep saying this is scary and this is dangerous and I think change is scary for people, but this is necessary to, to avoid bankruptcy. And that's what I don't understand why people aren't seeing that.
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Tudor Dixon
What I thought that was what was so interesting. I'm not sure if we were able to watch the Doge interview with Brett Bar Report, but it's like the media wants everyone to believe that the Doge people are just like 18 year olds playing Call of Duty in their parents basement when in reality it's like, you know, the Airbnb founder and CEOs and CFOs and, you know, people who left jobs who don't need to be doing this, who just want the government to be more efficient, to work better on behalf of the American people, and who realize that if we don't cut spending now, you know, we'll end up in financial ruin as a country. So I found it so interesting.
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Molly Roberts
You make such a great point. Because I looked at those folks that are out there that are in those positions, and I thought, I'm watching these people come out and say, you know, I don't have to be doing this, but I want to do it for the country. And I think, gosh, the number of times I see comments on social media, and I'm sure this will resonate with people out there that say, why don't we have executives step out of their position and run for office? And I think because it is such a toxic thing for people to step out of their careers and take that risk in the middle of their life to say, gosh, I'm going to put my reputation in the line, because you only have your reputation. So if you put your reputation on the line and you lose, then you can destroy your life. It's very interesting to me. These guys, they're like, yeah, I don't have to be elected and I can serve. And they're willing to do it. They're willing to put their life on hold to serve. And I find it fascinating that the media has tried to paint them as a bunch of silly 19 year olds that don't know what they're doing, because it has really protected these people who are very smart executives to be able to come in. They haven't had to go through the scrutiny that a candidate does, but they have the credentials based on what they've been able to do in their life. I mean, it really is a unique situation that we have going on right now with some great Americans willing to give up their time to do it. And I was glad it was highlighted with Brett. But I also think it's good to have these people protected as well. You know, these Democrat crazy people that have been, or just, you know, these folks that are like far leftists that have been inside the government determining where money goes and how to almost launder money. Nobody knows who they are. Why should these guys have to go out there and be scrutinized when they have the credentials to go in there and say, we're not, we're not taking money for ourselves, we're getting rid of spending.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, you know, and I think that's also why, you know, they've gone after Elon so much and why they've just been so malicious towards him as well, is because they want to keep people like him outside of politics. You know, they want to keep effective people outside of politics. They want business people to be like, you know what? I don't know, I don't want that. Like, you know, I don't want to put myself in that position. So I. Do you think that's why they're, they're, you know, kind of being so malicious and attacking someone.
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Molly Roberts
But I also, I think that it's also because there is such a large brand that comes along with him and they can activate their base. But look at how, what happens when they activate their base. And, and I really, that this is backfiring on them because we've seen all these videos of people going and keying Teslas and doing other things that are just horrible to individual people's cars. And the funny thing is these are leftists, for the most part. The people that buy the Tesla, you know, these are generally not the far right conservatives that you think you're going after. These are people who are typically left of center who have bought a Tesla and they're Tesla owners. And you see that they've even called for people to go out and go to these, these Tesla dealerships and continue to attack. You've, you've seen the calls for violence from the left. When we were mad about some of the things that the left was doing when we weren't in power. It wasn't that. It was like, hey, don't buy Bud Light. Hey, you know what, let's boycott Target for a few months and see if they will change and see if they will listen to their consumers. That was so much more effective than what I see on the left. But it scares me that they think violence is the answer.
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Tudor Dixon
But, but you know, it's been the answer for them, though. You know, I mean, there's been a long list of things that, you know, like, you look at the 2016 congressional shooting, you look at Lee Zeldin almost getting stabbed on the gubernatorial trail trail in New York. Trump almost assassinated twice, Justice Kavanaugh. Someone showed up outside his, his house, you know, wanting to kill him. You look at the firebombing of pregnancy centers or even when President Trump was inaugurated in 2017, you know, there are fire. The limo was set on fire. There was so much just right, like the you know, the. Of love, right. The summer of riots. It's like militant, you know.
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Molly Roberts
No, you make such a good point. Because when you list that list, right, one after another, it is shocking. And it's something that we, I think, have given grace to and forgotten and passed on. And it's something that we shouldn't. I mean, you should be going through that list on a daily basis. So people have to remember this. And I talk about the, the summer of love people died in that Chaz zone or the Chad zone, whatever they, the multiple names that they had for it. But young people we're talking about. Well, I think the one kid was 16 or 17, the other kid was 19. These are young people that died in these zones. And we never talk about the fact that this violence led to a loss of life, but you look at what happened in Minneapolis and these attempted attacks on conservative politicians. I mean, you mentioned Donald Trump, but I, you know, I'd even forgotten about Lee Zeldin. And it is very unappealing to run for office when you know that there are people out there who don't just disagree with what you believe is right. They want you dead. I mean, and they don't even hide it. I've seen these people. I saw a woman interviewed the other day who said that she absolutely still wants that to happen for. To Donald Trump and openly, but she has a mask on. You know, she's a, she's a coward. She's not going to say it out in, in the public. She has a mask on. It's illegal. She's calling for someone's murder. It's illegal, but don't even care.
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Tudor Dixon
So I guess where did the Democrats go from here? Because we've all seen the approval ratings, you know, 27% for an NBC poll. It's the lowest they've ever registered going back to 1990 for that poll. So where does the party or the Democrat Party go from here?
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Molly Roberts
Look, that's how I feel until I see things like this special election in Florida where it's like, oh, gosh, it's really close in a red state of Florida where we had a really safe seat where Mike Walls was, and now it could potentially turn bl. And I think, okay, here we are as Republicans. You cannot get comfortable. Just that, I think, is the message. Don't look at this and say, man, they're so radical, no one's ever going to come back to them because they are very creative when it comes to messaging and when they are looking at specific races that they want to win, to take power back. They're strategic about it. So where does the party go? I think the party will target people very specifically coming up in the midterm elections. And my fear is that if we are not on top of that messaging and if we are not letting people know, like even the list you just went through. That's why I said, man, it's so important that people remember this, because if we are not on top of it, the party will take back their power and then who knows where they'll go because they are split. They have this radical new system of going out on the Internet and all posting the same things filled with curse words and very negative messaging. And yet somehow they are saying, oh, Jasmine Crockett's like the new face of the party and AOC is the new face of the party. But they're pushing. I mean, they've pushed out Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi pushed out Joe Biden. She was trying so long, remember, to keep the party together as what she thought the Democrats were and, you know, keeping AOC in line. Now she's. She didn't have a generation between she and AOC to rely on. For some reason, she. Because she held on to power for so long, she was never willing to give up the reign. So this is her own fault because she was never willing to train someone up behind her. She left this massive generational block between she and aoc. She's gone now. They're pushing Chuck Schumer out of the way. The party is going to shift to AOC's generation, and she right now looks like the leader. So what happens to the party? Unless somebody can strategically come in and say, man, there's going to be some folks in their 40s and 50s that are going to get this back on track. They go full socialist, and I don't think they can get back the majority at that point.
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Tudor Dixon
I wanted to ask you, obviously, you know, Michigan, Detroit, car capital. So President Trump recently announced that he would impose a 25% tariff on foreign automobiles imported into the United States. We've seen the move supported by, you know, the United Auto or Auto Workers saying it's a victory for autoworkers. However, you know, critics are saying that it's going to increase prices for consumers, potentially anywhere from 4,000 to 15,000 per vehicle, depending on how much of the cars imported. What do you, what do you think? You know, which side of that are you on or are you sort of in between things or what do you make of that?
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Molly Roberts
I'm absolutely opposed to. I'M absolutely opposed to us allowing foreign car companies to bring cars into the United States with, with no repercussions whatsoever, because, you know, I want to support our American car makers. But I also look at, I mean, we can never let Chinese vehicles get into the American market. And that's something that I think Donald Trump has been intentional about protecting us. If you look at Germany, they allowed all the electric vehicles to come in from China. They just closed down three Volkswagen plants in Germany because they can't compete with these Chinese vehicles. We don't want our manufacturers to close down. We certainly don't want the national security implications of having our transportation rely, that we have to rely on a foreign country, certainly not a foreign country like China. So it's very important what he's doing, and he does it strategically. And I know there's been some conversation about, well, some of these parts will go back and forth across the border in Canada and Mexico multiple times. Donald Trump, as you've seen, has not done, made radical moves that he cannot negotiate into different areas to make sure the Americans are getting the best possible deal, but also making sure America first is top of mind for everybody and continues to be pushed. So if you, if you've watched what he's done with Mexico and Canada, you know, he's, he said, okay, this is when I'm putting the tariff in. There have been negotiations. Sometimes the tariff gets delayed, sometimes the tariff gets changed. He is a man with leverage. He knows the United States has the most leverage in the world. He is a master negotiator for anybody who thinks that Donald Trump is going to just crash the economy because he's going to put tariffs in that are to protect American manufacturers and bring manufacturing back. They have no idea what it is to negotiate. And I think they don't because I think they're so used to some of these legislators that come in and they get elected based on being loud and being popular and being great with young kids, but not based on experience. Just like we were talking about those DOGE guys earlier that have the experience of being executives. It's not what you see from a lot of the people who are critiquing Donald Trump, but he does have that, that ability to understand your leverage and negotiate will keep American manufacturing safe and grow it in the future.
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Tudor Dixon
We're also used to having a comatose president. And so I think it's a good shock to the system to go from having a president who the special counsel said was basically not fit to stand trial, but was okay being President, but couldn't run for reelection, but stayed in power to now having a president who, like, doesn't sleep and is working seven days a week. And, you know, like, it's. It's like a. I think people are. It's like whiplash, right? Like, it's like going from one extreme to the other type thing. I think one thing that's obviously great for the country, but also infuriating is to see that, you know, we were told time and time again that, oh, like, the border crisis can't be solved by executive order. It's a congressional thing. We need by, you know, all these excuses and, you know, meanwhile allowing, you know, millions and millions of illegal aliens to come to the United States. And then in like, a month, President Trump already solved the border crisis. And, you know, now we're seeing border crossings at the lowest level in decades. So it's like, you could have done it all along, yet you chose not to.
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Molly Roberts
Well, what I think is even more frustrating is these communities who say they absolutely will not work with ice. I mean, you've got what. Who is it the mayor of Boston who is saying, these are my residents, these are my people? And the fact that you still have that pushback after even that, the congressional address, when he sat there, when he brought in these people who were real American stories, Lake and Rileys, the Jocelyn Nungrays, those people's families who lost everything when they lost their children, they sat there and he said, hey, I'm going to keep my promise to you. I'm going to make sure that the people who hurt your children, who took their lives, are going to pay the price. And yet there are still Democrats on the other side who say that they will not stand for keeping Americans safe. It makes absolutely no sense to me. But the funny thing is it makes no sense to the country either. Even if you take the poll of the country, if you take the heartbeat and the pulse of the country on this issue, they will almost 90% agree with you. Yeah, we don't want criminals in our country that are going to kill people. And yet the Democrats are still on the other side. That's the concerning part to me, because you're right. They always knew that the Biden administration could do it. They were choosing not to. That's the sick part.
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Tudor Dixon
When it's like, you know, it's pretty obviously, you know, why is for power, right? Like, they were hoping to essentially import a voting bloc. And I love how previously it was, like, racist to say that, and somehow this was like a white Supremacy talking point. And then we saw people in inner cities across America and, like, minority communities rise up and be like, tell us exactly what was happening that that was happening, that, you know, services are being taken away from them. And it just sort of negated this lie that the media and the left were telling for, for so long. I also, you know, you mentioned Boston. One thing that really annoyed me, it was Michelle Wu sort of invoked Boston's rich history with the American Revolution. Like, we stand up to kings and da, da, da. The whole point of the American Revolution was that so that we would be a sovereign nation. You can't have sovereignty. You can't be a sovereign nation without enforcing your border. So it's like, you know, these people are just outrageous. But, you know, particularly when you look at some of these issues, like the, the men and women's sports, like, why do they keep digging? Why do they keep, like, hooter. Why do they keep digging their heels in on just this insanity?
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Molly Roberts
I don't know. Just today there was a story that came out. Someone tried to stop a, a woman in Michigan who, you may remember her, she was the, the, she has red hair. She spoke at the dnc. She was a, she's a state senator in Michigan. And she got a lot of attention for that speech at the dnc. And now she's talking about running for US Senate in the state of Michigan. And they tried to stop her recently and ask her, you know, what do you think about men and women's sports? No response. Won't even acknowledge it. I mean, how can a woman not be willing to turn and say, no, I want to protect other women? And it's not. This is, this has actually been a topic that many progressive women have turned against the Democrats on this subject. And yet a woman who wants to run for US Senate won't comment on it.
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Tudor Dixon
I just remember, you know, working on Capitol Hill and campaign campaigns and like, all the messaging and remember, like, even Mitt Romney's I binders full of women, which was such a strange thing to say in response to the accusation. But it was like the whole thing was, you know, Republicans war on women, Warren, Women war on women. And, you know, now Democrats are trying to erase women. Yeah.
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Molly Roberts
Completely.
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah. So it's like, it just, you know, it's pretty ironic to, you know, look back on all those campaign talking points from the left. And now the Democrat Party is just insane. We've got to take a quick commercial break. More with Tudor Dixon on the other side.
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Molly Roberts
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Molly Roberts
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Molly Roberts
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Odoo Representative
Hey everybody. So when you get asked, what is Odoo? What comes to mind? Well, I'll tell you. Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a suite of business management software that some people say is like fertilizer because of the way it promotes growth. But you know, some people also say that Odoo is like a magic beanstalk because it grows with your company and is also magically affordable.
- [30:33]
Ooh. But then again, you could look at Odoo in terms of how its individual software programs are a lot like building blocks. Whatever your business needs, manufacturing, accounting, HR programs, you can build a custom software suite that's perfect for your company. So what is Odoo? Well, Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a fertilizer magic beanstalk building blocks for business. Yeah, that's it.
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Which means that Odoo is exactly what every business needs. Learn more and sign up now@odoo.com that's O-O-O.com.
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Clorox Representative
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Molly Roberts
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Tudor Dixon
So what are you going to do, Tudor Dixon? Because there are a lot of rumors I'm sure you've seen that you compete. You could be potentially dipping your toe back in the political waters, maybe for Senate, maybe a gubernatorial run. Again, we have two races, my friend.
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Molly Roberts
We have two races here. Michigan is an interesting state in 26 because we have an open Senate. U.S. senate race because Gary Peters retired. We have the open governor's seat also because Gretchen Whitmer is term limited. Praise, praise the Lord. So we have two opportunities in this state. And I am truly blessed by the numbers of people who are supporting me. And that was something that one of the local news groups here did a poll on both of those and numbers came back very strong, supporting me for actually both seats. And that's kind of the, the calculation now is where could I best serve the state of Michigan? And that's what I'm looking at because obviously, having run in the governor's race before and having come out of a small steel foundry and knowing what we're up against here in the state of Michigan, my passion has been for years to protect the state, bring the state back. We're 41st in the nation in so many areas. Manufacturing is dwindling in the state. That's why Donald Trump has been so helpful with everything that he's doing now that he is the, the 47th president. We're so proud of what he's done for the state of Michigan. And so the question is, like, what, in what position can I partner with him best to make sure that the people on the ground here are getting the best, having the best life that they can have in this state, and that means allowing them to open their own businesses and reducing regulation to do that. That also means making sure that our schools are being taken care of the right way and that they are educating kids, and the kids have a future lot to look at. So I am very seriously looking at both. I've been talking to folks in Washington, I've been talking to folks here, and I. I don't have a decision yet, but I hope to have a decision soon.
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Tudor Dixon
What lessons do you think you learned from your previous run that you would want to apply to either, you know, Senate run or, or gual.
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Molly Roberts
I think there's so many things that you learn when you go through that. You know, in the first race, I was an unknown. You know, I came out and I had to really fight to get people to know who I was and who I am and what I wanted to. To do for the state. And we were very quickly, once we got into the general defined by a ballot initiative on abortion, and I had way too much trust for the news media in the state of Michigan. And so I made mistakes there, and I learned a lot from those mistakes, but I think also just mistakes in how we got our message out. You know, there's been so many advances in technology on how you can target your message, how you can make sure people are hearing it, how you can make sure they're seeing it, the ways you can deliver it. And that's something that I know Gretchen Whitmer and her team used very effectively. And I don't think that we had really discovered that yet. I think President Trump and his campaign, they changed the way Republicans will campaign, not only from targeted advertising, but also who they talk to. You know, he was careful about the media. He talked to the right media, he talked to the podcasters, and he didn't let these people trap him and put words in his mouth. You know, that was. That was really. I suffered from a lot of allowing the media to put words in my mouth, and that's something I've learned. And I think all Republicans should look at things that they've done in the past two cycles and say, okay, this is what we are up against, and this is what we have to be prepared to. To not engage in fight and. And define ourselves before they can define us.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, I also just think as a party, we've learned a lot of lessons in turnout, you know, and we, we saw those lessons Applied in the 2024 presidential election of just like our turnout machine was a lot better than it's been, you know, turning voters out early in a way that we didn't, you know, in 2020, which really ended up being effective, which I hope we, we obviously continue to apply moving forward in elections, particularly since all these states are engaging and early voting in ways that we hadn't prior to, you know, 2024 and prior to 2020.
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Molly Roberts
Right. And embracing that is something that we didn't do in the past. Embracing that is so key. But it's not just that you can turn people out in different ways. It's also, who are you turning out? You know, you need to go to. We have people that vote for Trump, that don't vote for other Republicans. But in 24, I think that the GOP and Lara Trump were very effective going to these communities and making sure that those people were not just going to come out for the president, that they were coming out for Republican candidates, they were coming out for congressional candidates, they were coming out for Senate candidates. And that's something that we need to look at 24 and say those low propensity voters are the ones we want to get. We don't want to have to try to convert people. We want to get those now. President Trump, I think, was also very effective in converting people, and that was in the new media that he was using, like your podcast. You know, going on a podcast like this is a different way of reaching people, and it allows you to talk in a longer form so somebody can say, well, you know, what, what are you really going to do for the country? And when you listen to Donald Trump, he's not looking at notes, he's not giving you a talking point. He's very normal. He's talking about it because he lives it. He knows it. It's in his soul. It's gut. And I think that's the, the benefit that we so many people on the Republican side have, and we're not exploiting that. Like, I get the issues of the state. You know, I've lived it. I have lived it as a business owner. I've lived it as a mom with four kids in school. I've lived it as, as just a resident of the state. And I've lived it because I've gone around and talked to people about their own experiences. And if I can't sit down for a half an hour or three hours on a podcast and tell you, well, this is how I really see it, this is what I'd really like to get in and do, then I don't deserve the job.
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Tudor Dixon
I totally agree. And the longer form interviews, you. You get to know someone's thought process better, and then you also get to know the person on just a human level, as opposed to just these, like, little sound bites, you know? Yeah. Tutor, is there anything else you'd like to leave us with before we go?
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Molly Roberts
You know, I. I think that we should be very open minded about what we see in Washington right now, because I think everybody in the states can look at how Donald Trump has entrusted so much to his cabinet secretaries and the work that they're doing with the Doge team and take that to a state level where a state like Michigan, for example, we haven't been able to afford to fix the roads in the state for years now. I mean, decades, really. It's been a disaster. So how can we look at what Doge is doing and say, okay, on a statewide level, we should all do this? Government has had many, many years, centuries now to become bloated, and we need to debloat our government across the board, whether it's state or whether it's federal. And we can be grateful every single day that Donald Trump was in there showing us what to do.
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Tudor Dixon
Tutor Dixon, I love you. You're awesome. I can't wait to cheer whatever decision you make, and I'm looking forward to finding out.
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Molly Roberts
Thank you. Well, I'll come back when I decide. Yes.
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Tudor Dixon
Also, you know, if you were governor, I'm sure Elf at the Shelf, Elf on the Shelf at the governor's mansion would be a lot more interesting for your kids, so.
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Molly Roberts
Yes, that's true. You know my stories about the Elf on the Shelf?
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Tudor Dixon
Yes, very much.
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Molly Roberts
Yep. That's my friend, the elf.
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Tudor Dixon
Yep. Take care, tutor.
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Molly Roberts
Great to have you on.
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Tudor Dixon
That was tutor Dixon. Appreciate her for taking the time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. Until next time.
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Clorox Representative
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Molly Roberts
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Clorox Representative
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Molly Roberts
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Molly Roberts
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