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This is the Tudor Dixon podcast and today we are going to talk about that infamous kill switch. You've heard a lot about it. What is it you're saying? This is the switch in your car. Your car actually is making the decision as to whether or not you can drive. Well, why is that important? How could that happen? Is that a thing? Okay, so we have an expert here and we're talking about this because you have probably just seen that. And if you haven't, you should know that there was an amendment to take this out of the infrastructure bill and say we can't, we can't fund a kill switch in our personal vehicles, like the vehicles that we think we own. But 57 Republicans voted to keep it in there. And one of them is from the state of Michigan, but they're Republicans from all across the country. So I wanted to bring on Lauren Fix. She's a former race car driver and engineer and she knows everything about cars. She is the car coach and the co host of the Drive. Lauren, thank you so much for joining me.
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Well, thanks for having me. Tudor. Yeah, this is a very hot topic. Lots of interest in it from all sides of the aisle because it impacts your freedom and your independence.
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That's. So this is what we keep telling people. But I. People say, oh, this is tinfoil hat stuff. But my car, so I have a Chevy Tahoe, my car watches me. I know, I can see. It has a little camera on the steering wheel to watch me because it has that self drive mode. What did you say the self drive mode is called?
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Super drive. Super drive. Super Cruise. Yeah. Super cruise. Yeah. 750,000 mapped roads. Yeah, It's a great system if you.
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Use it for that until it's not. Because sometimes it like decides to shut down or. And. And it will shut down if it thinks that you have looked away. If you look over to see, like this is a thing. In Michigan, we have a ton of deer, a ton of deer on the side of the road. So at night I'll. I'll keep my looking back and forth to the side of the road, to the front of the road while I have the super Cruise on. If you do that too much, the Super Cruise immediately shuts down. And it doesn't just stop self driving, it goes, it tries to take the car to zero. Like it stops any propulsion whatsoever of the car and it's a sudden jerk. It's. I can't imagine my car actually just totally shutting down.
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Well, what you just experienced and described is what the kill switch will do. It'll turn on your four ways. The vehicle will slow, slow, slow down. You will panic or think what's going on, pull over to the side of the road and will not accelerate at all. In many cases it won't even turn on. That is the early version of the kill switch which was supposed to be implemented in 2026 per the 2021 Infrastructure Bill that passed under the Biden administration. And if you want to look it up at section 24 to 20 in the rules, I read the bills not for anything more than the automotive part of it because that's where I specialize. That's what we cover here at Car Coach Reports. And it's really important that you know about this because when it's in your car and it's not in cars yet, there's some form of it, what you're experiencing. And there's tons of vehicles out today for years, actually for decades that track your eyes. And how do you know? Pretty simple. Put your car in park, start it, take your phone, your regular smartphone and take a picture of the gauges in your car. You'll either see two green eyes, two green dots, two white, two black. There'll be a color, it could be blue. And those are tracking you. Now if you don't see it and you're like, oh, my car is good, don't worry, it's in your rear view mirror. There's a company called Gentex, which is Michigan based, that has been doing this for decades. And it doesn't just track you in the car, it also tracks, and this is in addition, people in the passenger seat, second row, third row, your kids, your dogs, all that data is being collected and the software is going to make decisions based on what's going on in the car. And this kill switch bill, and we call it the kill switch bill because it will have the determination of judge and jury and convictioner without you having any say. And no way to get out of it. There's no way to get out of kill switch jail. And that rule has not been written yet by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration run by Sean Duffy.
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And this is meant to judge all kinds of different things. It will, it there's sensors, and there would be sensors in your seat. There's sensors. You're talking about cameras that are watching how your eyes are. There's even sensors potentially to see if you have alcohol in your breath. But if you are suddenly panicked or the car believes that you are incapable of driving, like if you're driving your wife to the hospital while she's in labor, the car might decide it's not gonna go right.
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You're in panic, you're gonna have anxiety. So the only of the technology that hasn't been developed yet or completed is on the start stop button. It's supposed to be able to detect whether you have alcohol in your system. And you may think, well, I don't drink, so it's not gonna affect me. Yeah, but you could have taken your nail polish off or cleaning a paintbrush, or you had mouthwash. All of that is alcohol. And perfume has alcohol in it. Or maybe someone in the passenger seat was drinking and you're being a good person and you're going to drive them home so they don't drive unsafely and that alcohol's in the air and it will sense it and not start the vehicle. These are all issues that there's no way around. Remember, your center screen also monitors everything that connects to your phone. Your Bluetooth has all the data from your phone, so it knows that plus what's going on with your maneuvers of steering, acceleration and braking. All of that is in that center screen. There's multiple computers. So that computer will take software. It's not AI it's going to take the input and say, wow, you dodged around a squirrel. Maybe it was icing out. Maybe you made an aggressive braking situation because a ball ran in front of you from some kid. It's all going to take that data and say, you know, Tudor, I think you're driving what we think is unsafe. So it will shut it off. It'll literally put on the four ways and shut the car off. And that technology is already in play. And if you go, it's not my car. Yes, there's such things as software downloads. So at night, you might hear your car making noises. And I've had that with some of my vehicles. And sure enough, that software is suddenly in your car the next morning.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, my car will say, when it shuts down, you can press here for your software update. And it will say that every day until you update the car. And it's going to say it won't Turn on for 15 minutes. Your car is updating now. And then eventually, if you don't update it, you have to take it in for an oil change. They're going to update, it's going to get updated. You're not going to avoid that.
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Yes, that's true. It'll happen one way or the other. Or they can push an update whether you accept it or not. Also, the car brands have the ability to push a safety update. Well, they could call that a safety update because that's the guys that. They got it through. They got it through through Mothers Against Drunk Driving saying, we don't want drunk people on the street. Of course not. Nobody, nobody wants drunk drivers on the road. But Today there are 31 devices that actually work that have been in place. And if you're convicted of a dwi, that you pay for that device to be installed on your car. And so instead of putting breathalyzers on, which we know consumers would definitely not want to do before driving, but think about it this way, you're guilty until proven innocent, so you're considered.
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That seems very un American. I think that's why conservatives are looking at this and saying, how could we possibly have a conservative congressman or woman who would possibly vote this into law? And, you know, I know the argument is we want to make sure people are safe. But you have to see that argument is very effective. But you have to step back and say, are we throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Are we putting everybody into a terrible situation? And like you said, everybody is guilty and they have to prove their innocence. And what kind of harm could it cause? Because I think that's a major concern for people is like, okay, we. Nobody wants anybody to be killed by a drunk driver, ever. That's a devastating situation. But what happens when your car suddenly shuts down on the highway and you're stranded on the side of the road and suddenly, like I said, your wife is giving birth or you are sick and you can't get home, you know, something happens and you're in a terrible situation. It just feels like this is something that could develop over time. But the government, just like EVs, the government is saying it's gotta be now.
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Yep. Oh, that's exactly what's gonna happen. But think about it this way. The proponents are saying it's like seatbelts or airbags. It is not seatbelts you put on and they protect you in case of an accident. Airbags do not deploy unless you're in a collision over 35 miles an hour. Then the airbag will protect you from Getting injured, this is not the case. This will stop you from starting the car or if you're driving the car and it feels that you're being unsafe. And we've all seen that where you get a notification on the dash, it says you should pull over and get a coffee, get a cup of coffee or take a coffee break. All. There's different terms depending on the brand, but all of that is leading this to the car taking control. But currently the administration that's in place would not want it to be anything more than to stop drunk driving. But what would happen is the next administration, and we don't know who that's going to be, could easily flip it to. You're not allowed to drive more than 100 miles. And if you are, then it's going to be like a social credit score. You get in the car, it's like, I'm sorry, tutor, you've driven your maximum allottable mileage for this week. That could be a problem, especially if you had to take your mother to the doctor. It's an emergency, whatever it might be. There's no way to get out of this kill switch jail either. And these are the kind of controls that the government wants. So you look to see who's voting for this and how they get conned into approving this. This bill needs to be stripped of all of its funding. And like you said, I've said in the past, where is that money going? Is that going to the car manufacturers? Where is that money actually going?
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So, so this is, there's a few things here when you bring up the idea of like what would Democrats or what would the next person in power do? And let's face it, progressives will always go to the next level. They've already said they want to monitor your miles and tax you based on the miles that you're driving. So all of a sudden, at the end of the month, you're going to get a big bill from the government saying, well, you drove over your allotted miles, so now you have to pay us this amount. Because there's they, you know, they were saying, well, we're going to have to start taxing your miles. They were getting you ready. I think they always knew EVs were going to fail, but they were getting you ready and saying, we've got to tax your miles because you're not going to have gas anymore. We won't be able to tax your energy, so we've got to tax your miles. So they put this in place to make sure they had a way to monitor you. The government would. This is a government bill. It would connect directly to the government. They would be able to monitor everything you're doing. Why would any conservative ever vote for this? Because, you know, I've got conservatives out there every day saying, I want to get rid of property taxes because you should be able to own things. Well, my gosh, I think I own my car, but I guess I don't.
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No, you don't. As a matter of fact, the data that's collected is being sold. Every car collects data on you. Everything about where you go, your phone is connected to it. It's got all that data, too. You use a Bluetooth, all of that data is being sent through your center screen. So you can use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto or Google. All of that collection information is sold to whom? You don't know. They could send it to the government. They could sell it to an insurance company, the extended warranty company that keeps text messaging you that you should, you should sign up with them. All of this data is where the value is. The value is not in the sale of the vehicle. It's in the service and the data collection. And when you think about this whole thing, consumers typically push back, back all the way back to the Carter administration when they said it's 55 miles to the gallon. Consumers got pretty mad. And that disappeared eventually. And now there's been a lot of things since, like EV mandates didn't sell. We knew that we're going to end up with maybe 4% of total auto sales will be electric. Even though the past administration wanted 100% electric, the grid can't support it. Again, government overreach, mandating what you can do. It's like, do you want a Coke or a Pepsi? You're not allowed to choose. We're going to choose for you. We're going to tell you what to eat, where to go and if you can drive your car. And that's what the problem is with a lot of these politicians. They say they're here to help us, but they're really not. They're here to help themselves. It's about power and money.
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This is the infrastructure bill. There was, this was designating money for this kill switch. They obviously call it something different. It was designating money for this. So you're saying this isn't really AI technology, this is software that is within the vehicle. We know we've, we know we've given our auto manufacturers money in the past. So I would almost say it would be interesting to look at those 57 Republicans, see who's taking them out to dinner lately, see how many auto manufacturing plants they have in their state, see how many of them do business in their private business life with auto manufacturers. I mean, I know that's the case with our Michigan Republican who voted to make sure that we keep this kill switch. Family business is auto manufacturing and doing all the logistics and supply work for auto manufacturers. If you're heavily involved in that, would you really vote against your constituents interests because of your own personal financial situation?
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Well, we've already learned that from a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle. It's always about, like I said, power and money. And that's a really good point. I mean the lobbyists put a lot of money into reelection campaigns. Oh, you wanted to get reelected. We can, you know, guarantee you X amount of money from these particular locations. And you really need to think about the money flow is like why does this need to be funded financially? If this is actually the case, then the car manufacturers would be forced like seatbelts and airbags to put it in. And then they would increase the price of vehicles which are already over $50,000 on average for a vehicle and unobtainable for many people. And this is what happens when the government gets involved. They make cars more expensive, that make more controls, more limits on you, the consumer. These are really major factors. And the only way this could be defunded is if it goes to the Senate. They strip it out, it'll have to go back to the House. But like Thomas Massie, Tim Burchett, Steve Perry have said this has to be removed. It's a foolish move to leave it in because consumers don't want it. And once it hits National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Department of Transportation, they're just going to make rules. What rules those are we don't know. Under Sean Duffy they'll probably be more in our favor when he's not there, who knows?
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I think that's what people need to understand. Whether or not car companies are putting these things in right now. Once there is a law in effect saying that they can have access to that information that they can, they can take away or they can charge us, the government. This is a really serious situation because think about it. What you're telling me is that they already have many of these things in place, so they're already monitoring what we're doing and our phones are plugging in there. So my gosh, if you went out to dinner and you had a few drinks, it might even say you've had too many drinks based on your receipt to be able to drive. So there are already monitoring what is happening. So the car company could potentially be making money from the government, giving them some sort of allotment for these kill switches. They are getting then more data from us, they're selling our data and then they're going to have a partnership with local governments to make sure that they are getting the taxes that they want from the miles that we're driving and probably they'll get, they'll be able to sell that information to those local governments. This is going to be some sort of a partnership. I mean, this blows my mind when I think about the fact that our tax documents dollars are then going to harm us.
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Oh, well, our tax dollars are going to a lot of things that we don't approve of and I'm sure you cover that on a regular basis. But I mean, besides the fact that I could list, just listen to the news, all the places that our tax dollars go is a total waste. The fact is that the government is saying we want to control your cars because they've already controlled literally everything else in your life. I mean, I live in New York State. Kathy Hochul wants to put everything electric, everything, hot water tanks, your furnace in your house, every appliance. You have to be electric. Electricity in this state is extremely expensive and they want controls of that. That's why they wanted electric cars. Because while you were plugging in and charging, they were limiting your range. They're limiting where you go. And then the cost of electricity was more expensive than that of gasoline. And these were major factors and including the higher insurance rates. So again, anytime you restrict Americans, I don't care what side of the aisle you were on, they don't like it. Nobody wants to be controlled.
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We were all saying, my gosh, if we have these electric vehicles, we can't drive more than 250, 300 miles. And in Michigan, you're. I mean, right now it is the frozen tundra out there. So that battery is not going to last very long. Never did we talk about the fact that it is a control that's control in and of itself.
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Yep. And you think about it. I mean, I was saying to people, what a great place to catch you. You're a bad person and the police are looking for you. The IRS says you owe money. Think of all the other things. We've been trying to track you down. No problem. We know where you are. Your car is plugged into a charging station, and we know you're there because it's easy to geolocate you anywhere. And that's what it's about. So they can track you down if they need you. I mean, it sounds like a really bad movie, and it sounds like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, but it's not a tinfoil hat. It becomes fact. In this case, it's fact. And I've got proof to back it up. This went through in 2021 under the Infrastructure bill and still has not been stripped out, even though some conservatives and some Democrats, including aoc, have said they don't like it. I'm shocked that she said she didn't like it, but she must realize that, hey, if I have a drink and I want to drive home, I got a problem.
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Well, and she was a bartender, so remember, she probably has seen a lot of people leave the. And I'm not advocating for that, but I am. I do believe that you. If you have a sober driver and the other person gets in and that has an effect on your car, how do you suddenly get out of a situation where you've left a bar, it's late at night. This is a safety situation in and of itself. I mean, we've just heard this past week someone who walked home from a bar ended up dying of hypothermia. You know, the idea that you would leave someone stranded and potentially lock them out of their own car could be absolutely catastrophic. And I do think that this is one of those things where it sounds so good that people don't think through the consequences. But I have to believe there are lobbyists that are convincing people that Americans giving up their rights would actually be beneficial to the rest of the country.
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No, because you take away your freedoms, you don't get them back. Once you give up your rights to anything, you don't get them back. I believe Benjamin Franklin said that originally. I may have the person who quoted it wrong, but you think about who's really behind this. It's Mothers Against Drunk Driving. So who's funding them? To put the pressure on some Republicans that voted against it in the past who are now voting for funding this. So that's again, looking at the lobbying list. There's 57 different House of Democrats that are voting for it in all states, whether it be red or black state or red or blue states. And, and this to me is very interesting because it says that you're willing to give up the freedom of your constituents, the people that elected you into office, so that you can have more money in your coffers for reelection. And that's a huge problem.
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Well, I know it's been quite a topic of discussion in the last week in the state of Michigan because people, I mean especially, I think especially in a manufacturing state where our legacy is the automotive industry. Right. So people are very protective of their cars. They're very protective of how they're built and they're very protective of their privacy. So to see someone who would say, and the message was that I'm voting for this because this is what the President wants. But Speaker Johnson voted against it. Lisa McClain voted against it. Why would, why would this have been a good. And this, just to clarify, this amendment was just about this. This is not like I had to vote for it because other were there.
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Right, right. There was no pressure from the other side. It was an individual line item. And that, that's why Thomas Massie was on the floor. He's actually read the full infrastructure bill, the, the, the section 24220 to everyone and explained it as he went through it and gave scenarios. So that caused some Democrats and Republicans to vote for with him. But then there's others that said, no, no, I'm going to still vote for it. So there's definitely money going to the car manufacturers. We have to find a paper trail because anytime you follow the money, you find out the real facts.
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Yeah. Well, it's interesting because obviously that's also the situation with these green new deals. There's a lot of money that goes into green and a lot of money that has gone into this push for many governors, I mean, including, I know our governor and probably your governor as well, have also come out with these mandates for renewable energy, which is, it's like energy suicide because we know that we cannot possibly get enough energy. And so Alyssa Slotkin came out. She's the senator for the state of Michigan. She came out and I say this because I think that we need to watch her. She ran as a moderate like they all do.
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She's not a moderate to the left.
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Yes, yes. And she is definitely gearing up for something bigger. So I think she's looking toward VP she's looking toward 28, but she came out and she has been like, look, the Republicans are trying to get rid of renewable energy and we shouldn't be getting rid of energy. There's nobody that said that. The only people who have ever said they wanted to get rid of a form of energy were the Democrats, let's be honest.
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True. It's true. I mean, they wanted solar panels, but those between solar and wind, you can't even gain 18% of what the grid demands. There's no baseload power. They don't want to use coal, they don't want to use natural gas. And nuclear power does work, but there's no incentivizing for it until now. They're just starting to get some incentives going for nuclear power, which by the way, China has been building coal and nuclear as well as natural gas plants all along after they told us we should go all electric, it's good for the climate. But at the same time as we all complied because the Green New Deal and everything else that was being presented to us, China didn't, they didn't listen, they didn't follow and they did the opposing to it. And then they promptly offered us electric vehicles that we are now, we have tons of them on the road. People that have them typically don't go back to, if you look at the percentages, people wake up and go, wait a minute, I don't like this. There's a lot of limitations and the costs are too high. And so that's why consumers are shifting back to either hybrids or gasoline powered vehicles. And the results are what you see from GM and Ford Stellantis. And those are real statements because those cars are being built in Michigan and people see that and they go, that's what we need. And the UAW likes it too.
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Well, and I think about the fact that you have all these people that spent $90,000 or more on an electric vehicle that is no longer being built. And what, what does that, you know, what happens now? Do they have somebody that can service those for the next 10 years? And then you have a car that you can't do Anything with, I mean, they really, really hurt the consumers who believed in their message because their message was just a lie. But I look at at how they got to that message and that was really a push from China. There has. And this is going to. People are going to say this is tinfoil hat stuff, but you got to be kidding me. China is in control of all the rare earth minerals. They want to make sure that we are building big batteries and that we require a lot of rare earth minerals and they want to be in control of our market. Now, if you can get this kill switch in these cars and you have some control over it, what's to say China isn't going to just suddenly shut down all our vehicles?
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They could and we don't have Chinese vehicles here, although Canada is supposed to get 49,000, which is a very foolish move because that's going to impact their jobs and their manufacturing industry and their supply chains. And I've written articles on that as well. That's a huge, foolish mistake. But I think President Trump is waking up Prime Minister Carney quite quickly, as he calls him Governor Carney, which I find hysterical.
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Think about this. Much like autonomous cars, where everyone thinks, oh, that's going to be the future, there's a lot of limitations and a lot of issues. And the one that also impacts this kill switch is hackers. Hackers are everywhere. We've seen Teslas hacked, we've seen Jeeps hacked, we've seen a lot of things hacked. And we've all had people attempt to get into your social media or whatever, your computer, whatever it might be. Think about this. If this infrastructure is software based and it's all connected through the automatic software downloads, it's entirely possible these hackers can get in. And if they do, they could shut down all the cars. And if it's a China based car, I promise you it's probably likely or the software, software comes from China. A lot of the, like Nvidia makes a lot of the stuff here in the US but if it's a Chinese based interface that's in your car and you would never know that could easily be hacked remotely. But to follow up on what you said on electric vehicles, China knew they could not beat the US when it came to combustion engines. And so they tried to fight that fight and they didn't get anywhere. So what was a better way to do it? They came up with a plan. It was crafty, that worked for a while. They bought all the mineral mines they could around the country with their road and Belt initiatives, we'll build infrastructure for you. You give us access to your minerals. And a lot of countries like Afghanistan were like, sure, that's great. A lot of countries agreed to that. And what they got in exchange was access to all these mines on a global basis. And so then they said, okay, now we're going to push a story that the world is getting warmer, and if you don't buy an electric car, we're not going to have enough fuel, which is absolutely not true. We're not going to have enough gas. That's absolutely not true. And they use the word, this is a great marketing term, rare earth minerals. So they use the word rare in order to get everyone to go, oh, my gosh, there's a limited amount. Of course, a lot of people bid onto that. And then they go on and say, well, we have all the mineral mines. We'll supply you with batteries. And so what ended up happening is all the brands went to Chinese branded batteries. And initially they let us build cars into China, but the deal was they owned half of the plants. Now they're booting us out, essentially because there's no sales, because they're saying, you need to buy Chinese vehicles. And they think they still own us. But since President Trump has gone into office, he has said, no, you're gonna be able to buy whatever you want. There's no mandate. And so that takes China out of the picture, and they're not very happy, because if Kamala Harris had got into office, she would have continued along this Chinese line of everything being electric, and we would have had a lot of limitations, especially in the upper half of the country where I live in Buffalo. So we have a lot of cold weather here. But think about further north. Montana, Green Bay, Wisconsin. You know, anything that's even up into Canada, it gets cold. And it cuts the battery range down dramatically in some cars, 50%. But in Chinese cars, it cuts it down 60%, so you would only have 40% of the possible range. And this is a problem in a lot of countries. Russia went 100% Chinese cars because the Lotta, which is a horrible car they were building, wasn't doing well. So they brought Chinese cars in and offered options to their people. Except the problem is the doors get frozen shut, they get frozen open, and battery range has dropped dramatically. And now Russia is saying, you know what? I think we need to bring in vehicles from other countries. It's a little late. Because everything is always in the world of politics is we let the horse leave the barn and then we want to know why and how do we close the doors? It's a little late.
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And I think it should be disqualifying for anybody to run for office who has been a proponent of this, who has been fooled by this, these useful idiots. I mean, you've got Tim Walls who honeymooned in China. He honeymooned, and he had his wedding on the anniversary of Tiananmen Squ Massacre because, I don't know, he's twisted and loves that kind of crap.
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Obviously Bernie Sanders, too, you know, he went to Russia for his honeymoon.
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It's like, okay, but you also cannot deny that these are dangerous people, whether they are just useful idiots or they are malicious. And I think that Kamala Harris and I think Gretchen Whitmer, I think those are useful idiots who sit there and go, yeah, welcome the CCP in. I mean, Michigan. We had her welcome the CCP in. Just miles away from a base where we're training Taiwanese soldiers to protect themselves from China. I mean, this is outrageous to think that she would allow the CCP in. Harris is the same. And I think it has to be called out that you cannot protect yourselves with people who do not do their research, who do not understand how they are crippling their own people, their own country, their own national security, because they are duped by a lie by their adversary. This should be disqualifying.
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I wonder sometime if they were duped or if there's ulterior motives or if they were paid. Maybe. But, you know, it always makes you wonder when you see the actions of some on either side of the aisle, what is really the truth going on here? Because it doesn't seem to me when you see some of the actions of politicians, and I won't name any specifically, but you see, like, why would you allow a battery plant to be built next to a U.S. naval base or an army base, why are we allowing the Chinese to buy land in our country? We couldn't go to China and go, I want to buy land there. You can't go to many countries and buy land there. But we're allowing them to come and buy land here. And that's a state by state thing. I know that Florida is trying to eliminate that, but what do you do? Take the land away. We have the same problem in Texas where they're building all these mosques and things, and they're saying, we bought the land, we can do whatever we want. And so, because the laws, we don't like laws, but the more laws they put in place to protect in this case, and it almost Sounds like you're going full circle with the kill switches. Where is the line in the sand that we're protecting the people or are we controlling the people? And that's where it. It shifts.
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And that is. If you can't see that, then you shouldn't be in elected office because you're not seeing what the majority of your constituents are seeing and are concerned about.
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Right.
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But I. I think it was so critical to have this conversation today because so many people are going, what. What even was this? And why would 57 Republicans vote for it? And that's where we implore you to go out and do your research. Say, yes. Who are these people? What kind of connections do they have that could have compromised their vote here? Because I do believe that these votes are compromised. But I appreciate you being on today, Lauren Fix. Thank you so much.
C
Thank you so much. And the list is on my website at Car Coach reports.
A
Awesome. Yes. Go there, check it out, do some research, because we should hold these people accountable for their votes. Absolutely. Thank you.
C
Thank you.
A
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Date: January 30, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (The Tudor Dixon Podcast episode)
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Lauren Fix (The Car Coach, automotive engineer, former race car driver)
This episode centers on the controversial "car kill switch" provision embedded in the 2021 Infrastructure Bill—a regulation set to require new cars to have technology capable of disabling vehicle operation under certain conditions. Tudor Dixon, joined by automotive expert Lauren Fix, delves into what this kill switch means for personal freedom, privacy, and the future of government and corporate control over citizens' vehicles. The episode scrutinizes both the technology and the politics behind the law, raising concerns over government surveillance, lobbying, unintended safety consequences, and international vulnerabilities.
[00:35-01:33]
[01:33-02:53]
Lauren Fix:
"What you just experienced and described is what the kill switch will do. It’ll turn on your four ways, the vehicle will slow down...In many cases, it won’t even turn on."
[02:53]
[02:53-07:02]
Lauren Fix:
"You’re considered guilty until proven innocent."
[07:02]
[07:42-10:22]
Tudor Dixon:
"What happens when your car suddenly shuts down on the highway and you’re stranded on the side of the road...It just feels like this is something that could develop over time. But the government, just like EVs, is saying it’s gotta be now."
[08:54]
[10:22-12:50]
Lauren Fix:
"There’s no way to get out of this kill switch jail either. And these are the kind of controls that the government wants."
[09:58]
Tudor Dixon:
"Why would any conservative ever vote for this? Because, you know, I’ve got conservatives out there every day saying, I want to get rid of property taxes because you should be able to own things. Well, my gosh, I think I own my car, but I guess I don’t."
[11:17]
[11:29-16:51]
Lauren Fix:
"The value is not in the sale of the vehicle. It’s in the service and the data collection."
[12:07]
[16:51-18:56]
Lauren Fix:
"They want controls of [electricity]. That’s why they wanted electric cars. Because while you were plugging in and charging, they were limiting your range, they’re limiting where you go."
[16:57]
[18:06-18:56]
Lauren Fix:
"No problem. We know where you are. Your car is plugged into a charging station. And we know you’re there because it’s easy to geolocate you anywhere."
[18:22]
[19:49-21:54]
Lauren Fix:
"You take away your freedoms, you don’t get them back. Once you give up your rights to anything, you don’t get them back. I believe Benjamin Franklin said that originally."
[19:49]
[20:39-23:01]
Lauren Fix:
"There was no pressure from the other side. It was an individual line item...So there’s definitely money going to the car manufacturers."
[21:22]
[24:49-29:22]
Tudor Dixon:
"Now, if you can get this kill switch in these cars and you have some control over it, what’s to say China isn’t going to just suddenly shut down all our vehicles?"
[25:41]
Lauren Fix:
"If this infrastructure is software based and it’s all connected through the automatic software downloads, it’s entirely possible these hackers can get in. And if they do, they could shut down all the cars. And if it’s a China based car, I promise you it’s probably likely or [if] the software comes from China."
[26:05]
[29:43-32:29]
Lauren Fix:
"Where is the line in the sand that we’re protecting the people or are we controlling the people?"
[31:44]
Tudor Dixon:
"If you can’t see that, then you shouldn’t be in elected office because you’re not seeing what the majority of your constituents are seeing and are concerned about."
[31:50]
On the car tech’s expanding power:
"It's not seatbelts...this will stop you from starting the car or if you’re driving...it feels that you’re being unsafe." – Lauren Fix [08:54]
On data monetization:
"The value is not in the sale of the vehicle. It's in the service and the data collection." – Lauren Fix [12:07]
On bipartisan concern:
"Some conservatives and some Democrats, including AOC, have said they don't like it. I'm shocked that she said she didn't like it, but she must realize that, hey, if I have a drink and I want to drive home, I got a problem." – Lauren Fix [18:51]
On giving up rights:
"Once you give up your rights to anything, you don’t get them back." – Lauren Fix [19:49]
This episode paints the car kill switch debate not just as an automotive or safety regulation issue, but as a flashpoint for broader concerns about personal freedom, government and corporate power, privacy, and even international security. Through technical explanation and political critique, Dixon and Fix issue a clear warning: the road to convenience and safety features may be paved with deep, lasting risks to individual autonomy, all enabled by bipartisan political machinations and powerful lobbying interests.
Call to Action:
Listeners are encouraged to research their representatives’ votes, follow the money trail, and remain vigilant against policy moves that trade freedom for (purported) security.
Lauren Fix: "And the list is on my website at Car Coach reports." [32:26]