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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Dave Asprey on Biohacking, Longevity & Beating Brain Fog
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Tudor Dixon
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Dave Asprey
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So if you have been listening to this podcast, you know that I have been trying to find someone that will, like, genuinely talk to me about biohacking. Biohacking, I guess, is like, somehow you hack into your system and you make yourself super healthy and you. Your mind is clear. And I'm at that point in my life where I do forget people's names in my mind. I feel like it's not clear half the time. I mean, it literally just happened before I started this podcast today. So I've been looking for someone and we've had a few people on and they have told me nothing. So I have pulled out the longevity expert. He is the founder of Bulletproof Coffee, the Bulletproof Diet, the creator of the biohacking movement. And I'm so pleased to say that we have Dave Asprey with us today. Thank you so much for joining.
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Dave Asprey
You are so welcome. What a. What an intro. And people don't usually realize I used to weigh 300 pounds and I had.
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Tudor Dixon
I'm shocked by it.
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Dave Asprey
Yeah. And it's. It. It doesn't make any sense. As a former computer hacker, I would have never imagined I'd be, you know, in help with my shirt off. Like, like, like, these are not the same universe. I was like the fat guy from Jurassic Park 1, the computer hacker. Like, I don't know. But the idea of biohacking is that your body listens to signals all the time that you don't pay attention to like a little puff of wind or the color of the light or what time you ate or temperature and magnetism and all sorts of things that are there, but we don't pay attention to them because our conscious brains are focused on what we're going to say. So the definition is it's the art and science of changing the environment around you and inside of you so you have control of your state. It means if you want to be healthy, be healthy. You want to live to 180 or longer like me. Okay, you want to get swole. Okay, do that. Whatever it is, you know, you want to not deal with perimenopause the way your mom did. Let's do that. You don't want to be a 46 inch waist the way I was. Let's do that. Like all of this, you get to pick your state. And then we're going to do this weird thing. We're only going to do what works and we're going to measure it. So if you believe, like I did, that being a vegan is gonna make me lose weight and be healthy, well, you look at the data. I did lose weight and I shattered three teeth and gave myself autoimmune conditions like everyone else who goes on the vegan diet. You don't get healthier, you get sicker. So like, what would happen if we just did what worked? That's all I wanted to do.
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Tudor Dixon
I heard you talking about women eating salads and you were like, you have a woman eat a steak and suddenly she's not cold all the time. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm cold all the time. And I was like, how do I even know? Because we are not. It is not natural. There's not a information out there saying this is what you should eat. Because obviously people are marketing what they want us to eat. And when I hear you talk, I'm like, this sounds amazing, but I don't know how to feel, to connect with my body in that way and know what that means, Why I can't think of somebody's name when I see them at the grocery store.
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Dave Asprey
Well, the first thing to understand is you have control. If it's just random or it's just getting old, then you're screwed. There's no chance. Right?
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Tudor Dixon
But that's. I had come to accept that until I started looking at what you were saying and I'm like, oh my gosh, wait, do I actually have a choice in this?
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Dave Asprey
Oh, you have a big choice. And that's why biohacking is now a $36 billion industry. Started with a blog post. And the biohacking conference is. We're now in our 13th year. 5,000 people. Steve Aoki is playing at the biohacking conference. And it started with a hundred people in a bar in San Francisco to meet, like, hey, how can we take over our biology? And so people can come and join in. Austin, it's biohackingconference.com and it's amazing. So you can come and you can look at this. But the first thing, you gotta pick a goal. Do you wanna fix your brain fog first or your energy first?
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Tudor Dixon
So I don't have to pick one permanently. I can get both. I just have to start someplace.
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Dave Asprey
You gotta start someplace. And this is the problem. What does healthy even mean? Everyone listening to this. It means a whole bunch of different things to different people. So what I finally started doing with my AI longevity clinics around the country, it's called Upgrade Labs. We have a survey that people take and we use AI to score it because it's like, okay, do you want to live a long time or do you want to look really good? Well, actually, I want both. And, like, which one's important?
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Tudor Dixon
Right?
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Dave Asprey
We're going to help you find what's the most important thing for you right now. And then what is the easiest way to get there?
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Tudor Dixon
So I. I find. I'm interested in this because I think that it's not just that we are eating the wrong things. I believe that we have been tricked into believing that there's a magic pill for everything and that we, whether it's that we're sad or that we're overweight or that are. We have high cholesterol. There's. It's. We are very overmedicated. And the. The thing that I am interested when it comes to biohacking is that it seems like you're not pushing a lot of medication.
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Dave Asprey
I hate to tell you. Any means necessary. I don't care if we need to glue computers to your head. I'm actually at my company 40 years where we do that because it's faster than meditating. I don't care if we need to learn a meditation technique from the 13th century written in Sanskrit. And I've done that too. Right. It's all on the table. I just want you to get results that are safe and effective. And the problem is big pharma lies. They lie repeatedly. And they've been fined something like a hundred billion dollars over the years for just lying. They knew it didn't work. They knew it had side effects and they put it out there anyway. And it's much bigger than what Big tobacco did when they have doctors smoking Marlboros. What now? So that's why we don't trust big Pharma. But I will tell you, there's at least 10 pharmaceuticals that can do things for longevity right now that no herbal and no lifestyle thing can do, right? So I'm not opposed to them. I just want truth. And if I don't have good science, I'm going to shy away from the pharmaceuticals if I can do it naturally. And some natural compounds aren't safe either, like kale. Gross. That stuff is bad for you.
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Tudor Dixon
It is. What are you talking about? I thought we were supposed to eat kale all the time.
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Dave Asprey
No, that's only a form of self loathing is kale.
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Tudor Dixon
Thank goodness I was. That's the best news I've heard.
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Dave Asprey
Kale is high in a compound called oxalate that causes 70% of kidney stones. And it's also the number one plant on the planet for soaking up a toxic metal called thallium that is damaging to your nervous system. It's a garbage plant for cleaning up toxic soil. And it's nice to put around the salad to make it look bigger, like Pizza Hut used to do way back in the day. Otherwise, kale is not food. When I ran a regenerative farm, my pigs wouldn't even eat the kale unless there was no other food.
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, my gosh.
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Dave Asprey
No. Stop. Arugula. Arugula is good. Kale's bad. But no one tells you that stuff.
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Tudor Dixon
But that is so hard. See, this is the part where the average person is like, how do I. How do I find this out? And so you have the biohacking conference, which is in. In Austin. When is that?
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Dave Asprey
That is May 27th through 29th.
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Tudor Dixon
So that's coming up. So this is good. If you're listening, then you can. You can go there and you can find out how to do this. But if you are just starting out when you. I mean, I think a lot of people feel like they're just drained. They're tired, they're exhausted. The majority of moms that I talk to would say, I just don't have the energy. And we chalk it up, too. We don't have the energy because we're up all night with kids and we're. You know, you work all day and you come home and you're managing other people's me and you're eating crap as you get people to bed and out the door in the mornings and we're just exhausted. But how do we start? Where do we start with that? How do we know where what the exhaustion is coming from?
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Dave Asprey
Well, there's your first goal. Instead of I want to be healthy, which doesn't mean anything, say I want my energy back. Right? Okay. And do you want your energy back in six months or do you want it back right now?
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Tudor Dixon
I want it back now.
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Dave Asprey
Okay, great. So let's start with some short term strategies which is going to give you your energy and then you put the energy into things that make it long term sustainable. Right. So here's what you can do tomorrow. If you're waking up feeling tired, you wake up and instead of drinking whatever you drink in the morning, you drink a two and a half a teaspoon and a teaspoon of sea salt or some electrolytes that contain a meaningful amount of sodium and drink a big glass of water with that in it. And then you drink some coffee. And may I plug Danger coffee, which is mold free with a ton of therapeutic trace minerals in it, but have some really good coffee without mold and then have the. Have that and then have some creatine, about 10 grams.
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Tudor Dixon
We just had somebody on who was talking about mold being in our coffee. And, and now it's like one of those things where if you hear it three times, you have to take it seriously. Because I was like, this is not a thing.
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Dave Asprey
I'm the guy who taught the world about mold and coffee. My last company, Bulletproof, is probably in your store. I have nothing to do with Bulletproof anymore. My latest standards, I invented mold free coffee as a category. So yeah, dangercoffee.com and mold is in coffee. And I published 36 studies on it in my book. And still Joe Rogan's like, I think Davis was misleading because you had an investment in a competing company. So you're like, all right, here's the deal. Most governments in the world have mold standards for coffee, but the US Doesn't. And so the president of the coffee association, I have him on camera saying this. He goes, oh, I was in Japan. They rejected a thousand shipping containers of beans. He goes, what? What did you do with them? Oh, yeah, we, we sent them to the US where it's legal. So if you're drinking crap coffee, maybe with a big green label in the morning, and then an hour or two later you feel jittery and tired, you want more sugar in a snack, dude, it's not the coffee. It's the mold in the coffee? No. Or you could skip some coffee, but then you'll have a bad morning. So let's not do that.
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Tudor Dixon
No. Right. I cannot do that. Is not an option. So I did actually just order mold free coffee and I, I, and I was not a believer. I'm like, how much different could it be? I mean, it even tastes different.
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Dave Asprey
It's like, I'll send you some danger coffee because there's a lot of people who try to make mold free coffee and we could get talk science for a while. But truly testing for mold is harder than you think because of something called masking. But getting the flavor down is another thing. But you feel different, right?
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Tudor Dixon
Totally. Oh, my gosh. Completely. It's like night and day. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
So I also saw something where you said a good way to and maybe I'm you, maybe I'm getting this wrong. A good way to get your energy up is to go outside in the morning. And you were. I thought it was like 20 minutes. And I thought, how could I possibly spend 20 minutes outside in the morning? But am I wrong about that? Are you telling us to go outside?
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Dave Asprey
You have to go outside. You have to wear a bikini even if it's snowing.
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Tudor Dixon
I'm in Michigan.
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Dave Asprey
If you're not doing it right, you're doing it wrong. No, you don't have to do that. So here's the deal. You will benefit from 20 minutes in the morning, right? But what do you do? Brush your teeth outside while you're too like, no, it doesn't work for most people, but five minutes can work because there's probably something that takes five minutes that you could do while you're outside and take off your sunglasses while you do it and doing that. If you just say have that salty water, which is electrolytes, to get energy in the morning, have your danger coffee and then take 10 grams of creatine and you can drink that coffee while you're outside with the creatine in it. Cause it'll work better.
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Tudor Dixon
And what does that do?
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Dave Asprey
Creatine causes your brain to make more energy, but when you put it in the danger coffee, it dissolves in a certain way so that it goes into the brain better than if you just mix it into a smoothie. So creatine is. Is incredibly potent for making more electricity. Because if you're tired all the time, it would make sense that it's like the battery in your phone is below 20%, so everything slows down. That's just you. So creatine electrolytes danger coffee in the morning, and then get your 5 minutes of sunlight with no contacts, no sunglasses, and that's a signal to your body that it's time to wake up. And if you do those things tomorrow morning, it'll be amazing. Like a completely different day. You won't want sugar in the danger coffee because it just doesn't need it. Your body knows you're craving the sugar in the coffee because the coffee's bad.
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Tudor Dixon
So why no sunglasses? I've actually heard something about, like, your eyeballs actually need sunlight.
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Dave Asprey
It's true. So about, geez. 12 years ago now, I started a company called TrueDark that makes circadian glasses that filter out light to tell your body what time it is. So 5% of the cells in your eyes, they're not seeing what you see. They're only measuring the color and brightness of the light so they can tell your brain, hey, is it time to go to sleep or time to do some stuff? So if they never see bright light in the morning, it's like, I guess it's still time to sleep. We don't really know what's going on, so you get less energy. So that bright light in the morning aligns the timing signal. So now all of your body is like, hey, let's make energy now. And that also strangely means you'll sleep better at night. And if you have kids, do it with your kids too. Make them go outside for five minutes and they'll sleep better. And if your kids sleep better, you sleep better. I've got two teenagers. We know what that's like.
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Tudor Dixon
Yes, yes. I have teenagers too. And they're there. There is a. That is a whole nother realm of. I was just actually talking to somebody about this this morning. I'm like, people who have their kids when they are toward their 50s. I don't know how last night my dog was. And this never happens, but I had this tiny dog and he was up barking all Night. And I thought if they were up all night still, I could not handle it. My body cannot recover like it used to.
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Dave Asprey
That's totally a lie. Tutor.
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Tudor Dixon
That does not.
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Dave Asprey
But I'm obviously causing this recover like it used to. But it can and it does. And I'm promising if I can do this as a 300 pound computer hacker with chronic fatigue syndrome in my 20s. Seriously, you can have more energy next year than you did when you were 30.
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Tudor Dixon
So that is actually the only reason I believe you. Because I would not believe you if you look like this your whole life. I just want to be clear, because
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Dave Asprey
fitness influencers who are 30 years old, who've never been fat, telling people they can eat a Snickers bar and a Diet Coke. I would choke them if they were here. Except I'm full of peace. So I don't. I give them kale.
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Tudor Dixon
But you look, you look very naturally healthy.
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Dave Asprey
It's insane. Like, literally, if anyone on earth has no right to look like this, it's me. And I, I, it's. Sometimes I just, I look in the mirror and I'm like, what is up? All right, I'm gonna do the, the douchey thing you're not supposed to do on this. But look at my abs, okay? And I'm. I just got back from the gym, but like, I still have stretch marks. You can see stretch marks. But like I have veins. Like, how can I be 50?
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Tudor Dixon
But you only work out 20 minutes a week.
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Dave Asprey
Uhhuh. A hundred percent.
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This.
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Tudor Dixon
Okay, I do not.
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Dave Asprey
I can't CEO that. That big podcast. Steven interviewed me and he wouldn't publish interviews. He didn't think it was possible. I also think his largest sponsor was vegan. That might have been it. But here's the deal.
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Tudor Dixon
Okay? So I am super impressed because I do feel like there is a point when you're in that perimenopause menopause stage where things are changing inside of you and there is not a guideline. I mean, I've talked about this for many different parts of a woman's life. Especially you go through pregnancy. There's a getting back on track that you need to do, but there's no real guide. There's no markers, there's no understanding of that. And then I hear people talk about peptides and oxalate free diets and all of these things, but I have no idea what it means. I want to know. That's why I'm talking to you.
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Dave Asprey
You know, I don't think you really want to know.
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Tudor Dixon
I Do want to know? I do. Are you thinking that I'm not committed? I am not committed. I'm trying to figure out how to be committed.
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Dave Asprey
You want to know what to do to get results. You actually don't want to know what an oxalate is. Am I wrong?
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Tudor Dixon
I don't know. Well, now I'm freaked out. I feel like you're going to tell me something horrible.
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Dave Asprey
No, I'll tell you what an oxalate is. But here's the thing. We're at a unique time in history. So if you were to go back 20 years or even 10 years, you were going to have to hire me. And people do. I have a longevity, like advanced life extension program for VIPs, and people spend six figures a year to work with me and a team on managing all of their stuff. And that's called unlimited money.
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Tudor Dixon
So only rich people can do this?
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Dave Asprey
Well, no, that's. This is. Well, this is a very, very deep program, and a lot of people say it's for rich people. However, right now. Thank you. AI. You can do almost all of this by yourself. And you can literally go to your favorite AI by the way, don't use ChatGPT because, number one, it doesn't work very well. Number two, it's a narcissist. Number three, it's now spying for the government. So go to Claude, because it's better, okay? So go to Claude and say, hey, what would Dave Asprey do? You can literally ask it that. And Claude stole every author's books on the planet, including downloading some of it illegally, and just signed a legal settlement with like hundreds of thousands of authors for doing it. So all my books are in there. And you could go to my websites and I have all my books and all of my talks and everything else, but it doesn't pick one, right? So go out there and say, my goal is to do this. Use Dave Asprey's biohacking techniques and tell me what's most likely to work for my biology. Here's what I know. And now you don't have to know what an oxalate is. You can go to daveasprey.com, i have a Lewox challenge, and I'll teach you how to avoid them and what they are. But here's the thing. It's faster and faster to just know what to do and then you learn what you want.
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Tudor Dixon
But now I really want to know what they are.
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Dave Asprey
Okay, here's what they are. Oxalates are plant defense compounds. It turns Out. Plants hate it when you eat them and when you eat their babies, it would make sense because then they wouldn't reproduce. So how do they stop us? They can't run away because they have roots. So they make toxins where if you eat too many of the plant, it'll poison you and poison your babies. So then some of you will die and then they can live. This is the balance of nature. It's called an ecosystem. Right. This is a very common plant toxin. Very high in spinach, which is one of the worst in kale. And sadly, potatoes.
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Tudor Dixon
No potatoes.
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Dave Asprey
And the worst of all, whole grains. Whole wheat has a ton of it. White flour has almost none of it. That's why they make white flour. Brown rice, not so good white rice. Very low in toxins. This is why throughout all of history, we've thrown away part of the food because it's not very edible unless there's a famine. And when you eat this, it goes into your body, it finds calcium, and it forms razor sharp microscopic calcium crystals that are tied to gout. 70% of kidney stones, arthritis, brain dysfunction, Alzheimer's, autism, skin problems. So pretty much most nuts, but not all. Most seeds, but not all. And all grains, unless you throw away the outside. If you're eating those, along with a bunch of these superfoods that are mostly high in it, you're getting five times the dose that your body can handle every day. And it's affecting fertility and that muscle pain you wake up with and the brain fog and the little sties that you get in your eyes, all these things can be explained by razor sharp calcium crystals. So I'm not saying that this is the cause of everything. I'm just saying if you don't know about it and you're having a big old spinach kale, almond milk. Almonds are particularly bad. Smoothie every morning, thinking you're healthy, and then you walk around going, why does my skin look like crap and my joints hurt? Oh, and I get UTIs all the time from because something's cutting my urethra. Maybe you should step away from the freaking vegan food and eat the way your great great great grandmother did. When she wanted to be fertile, she ate steak and eggs.
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Tudor Dixon
But she liked potatoes, too. No potatoes.
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Dave Asprey
If you have some potatoes and you're eating enough steak and eggs, you'll be fine. But if you're trying to eat potatoes and almonds and like, this long list of these weird California superfoods that no one ate until the California Farmers association started marketing this in the 70s, dude. Grape nuts. I wouldn't feed that to my chickens. Literally. They eat my kids.
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Tudor Dixon
I have, I have in the last probably 20 years, felt like if I was drinking something that was a horrible color and didn't taste great, that it was healthy.
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Dave Asprey
Yep, I've been down that path too. And look, I. I just measure results. And I have taught millions of people. I have nine bestselling books, everything from meditation down to what to eat and longevity and brain function, because I had all the problems myself.
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Tudor Dixon
But does this mean, like, really weird eating, like raw things? Or you have to eat like, or you can't have butter or you can't have flavor.
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Dave Asprey
Just raw liver, nothing else. It's gross. No, it's gotta. I have a cookbook. I have a Michelin star chef who works for 40 years. As in, I'm into food. But here's the thing. You eat your animal based proteins first because you need enough protein. And a lot of women who are tired, they're not eating enough animal protein and they're not eating enough calories. And if you want to be tired all the time, calories measure energy. So if you're eating salads, a huge number of women, they eat more calories and suddenly they lose weight. And like, how is that possible? It's because now your body feels safe enough to put on muscle. A friend who was a vegetarian and kind of semi vegan finally just threw up her hands and said, fine, I'll eat steak. And so she started eating, oh, one gram of animal protein per pound of body weight, the way I recommend. Within six weeks, she lost six pounds of fat and gained six pounds of muscle without changing a workout, just from getting enough calories and just from getting enough protein. So women in particular need to eat steak. And if you're worried about this, if you're on a date and you're picking at some dumb little salad with spinach in your teeth. For guys, a woman eating a ribeye is really sexy. And a woman eating salad, Gross. We don't even want this. We don't eat the salad either, so.
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, my gosh. So salad is a dating turn off?
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Dave Asprey
Are you kidding? Gross. Yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
So I will tell you a story that one time. This is not a dating story, but I was in. So I used to work in manufacturing. And it's like totally a dude's world. Right? So there was this one guy and he was probably 30 years older than me. And we went to dinner with a group of people and I ordered the steak, but it came as like two. And they were big and they were. I feel like they were stuffed with something. They were too big for me to eat. So I ate one and then I. And then I was traveling. So it was like, should I take it? That's weird. Weird because I'm going back to a hotel. But I felt like I had to. So then I did. And the guy just reamed me in front of all of these other men. He was like, this is why you don't take a woman to dinner because she can't finish a steak. How embarrassing that she can't finish a steak. So we were never going to date. But that was not a turn on to him that I ordered a steak.
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Dave Asprey
He was probably a guy, though, who looked like he could eat 12 steaks.
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Tudor Dixon
He could. Yeah.
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Dave Asprey
Yes. So here's the deal. There are always douchebags. There are.
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Tudor Dixon
That's. That is a fact. No matter where you are or how well you eat.
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Dave Asprey
Yeah. And you don't have to order the £1 steak. But it, it's just give yourself permission to eat enough protein. Protein first. And then have some veggies if you feel called. And then after that, have some white rice is the best carb. Or some potatoes if you're not loading up with these other higher toxin superfoods all the time. And be happy. Right.
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Tudor Dixon
What about salt? Am I allowed to salt my food?
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Dave Asprey
Salt your food as much as your body wants and it is life changing. And people get really offended at this. Go. But salt, high blood pressure. That science is mostly based on a survey where they asked 40,000 people, how much salt do you think you had in the last couple days? And they just made up a number. So the president of the High Blood Pressure Society, who's a medical doctor with years of experience, said, I'm just going to measure sodium in 3,000 people for three years. And he's trying to prove salt raises high blood pressure. Into the study, he says, this is Michael Alderman's. His Name. He says, if you want to live longer, eat more salt. Salt allows electrons, electricity to move around inside the body. And if you're tired right now, have some salt and water, have some creatine, have some danger coffee, and then have a steak or some animal protein, and your entire day will change. You won't yell at your kids. You won't get brain fog. You won't have the cravings. You won't be hypoglybitschy. Cause the protein just completely makes that work. And life is better. Like, it's actually better.
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Tudor Dixon
So I did see that you said that this would make you less likely to have those moments where you yell at your kids. And I know people will say, I never yell at my kids. But you know that moment where they do something and you go, why did I yell about that?
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Dave Asprey
It's not cause you're a bad person. It's because you didn't have enough energy in your brain to regulate your response. You couldn't catch it because your brain was, like, on a dimmer switch. So no one's mean to their spouse. No one's mean to their kids on purpose, unless you're maybe a narcissist. But why are you doing it? Because you couldn't help yourself because you were low on energy. And I. I measure brain waves on executives and high performers. People come and spend five days upgrading their brain at. At 40 years of Zen. I'm actually at our facility right now in Austin, and I have measured this for more than a decade. And the most powerful people on Earth, when we act like jerks, it's because we couldn't help ourselves. And when you up the energy and you up the level of presence or training or awareness, then you don't yell at your kids very much. But I've yelled at my kids. Right? I think I have great kids. Right. I apologize when I was done yelling at some point afterwards. Right.
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Tudor Dixon
I've been in the past.
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Dave Asprey
You're human. And no human is at full energy all the time. But when you're at full energy, you won't yell at your kids.
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Tudor Dixon
Okay? So before I let you go, I have to ask you about nicotine, because I cannot wrap my mind around this. Our whole lives, we've been told nicotine is so bad. And then I see you saying, you need. You should have a little nicotine. And I'm like, what is that? What does that mean? Like, you go out and have a smoke in the morning. What is this?
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Dave Asprey
Okay. I have never smoked. I have never advocated for smoking. Or even tobacco. There's a large body of evidence that a small amount of pharmaceutical nicotine, not smoking, has health benefits. And I'll tell you tomorrow morning if you're really having brain fog, do all the stuff I just said and add 2 or 3 milligrams of nicotine. Oral nicotine.
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Tudor Dixon
How do you do that?
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Dave Asprey
They have little pouches, they have a spray, they have gum, they have lozenges, and you could even put a patch on if you wanted to. We're talking a cigarette might have 20 milligrams. We're talking 10% of a cigarette's worth without ever smoking.
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Tudor Dixon
And I'm not gonna be walking around with a dip cup and like my lips sticking out.
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Dave Asprey
No, no. I mean, if, if you're into that. But that's still tobacco cancer risk. So this low dose nicotine neuroprotective, it actually is the most studied cognitive enhancing natural compound, along with caffeine. And really the reduction of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's comes from Vanderbilt University. In 1986, I interviewed the researcher on my show on the Human Upgrade. And he's like, yeah, we noticed smokers get cancer, but they don't get Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. There must be something good in there. It turns out the good is the nicotine, the bad is the smoke. And I'm not saying you need to pound nicotine all day long, but there's a very strong case, especially starting around age 40, for doing up to 5mg of nicotine a day. And a lot of those little, um, little zins and things like that are more than 5 milligrams. So you'd use it for a brief period of time or buy the lowest dose and use it before a big meeting.
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Tudor Dixon
Interesting.
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Dave Asprey
And the focus is insane. I started on 1 milligram a day 15 years ago and been talking about it ever since, including for neuroprotection. Cause if you want to live to, you know, hundreds of years, you might want a working brain and low dose nicotine is part of it.
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Tudor Dixon
But do you get addicted to that?
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Dave Asprey
At 5 milligrams a day, the addiction is about the same as coffee. It goes away in three days. It's not a big deal. If you go above 5 milligrams a day on a regular basis, you become addicted and you need to taper down. But it's not like smoking addiction. And by the way, vaping is terrible. Don't vape, don't smoke.
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Tudor Dixon
Okay? So there are other ways to get it, and that will Help. Is it like. I mean, it's a stimulant. So I. So I know so many people who are taking Adderall, and I just think that is so dangerous because I've seen a lot of people become really, really addicted to that.
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Dave Asprey
Adderall is bad news. So instead of Adderall, there's a drug that was invented for narcolepsy called Modafinil. And I've been on ABC Nightline, they call it the limitless drug. And I'm the only guy saying, yeah, I took that to get through business school. And I did have a bag on my head because I'm happy to talk about what I do. So I've been taking the lowest dose of that. It's not even a stimulant. It's a cognitive enhancing drug for about 25 years. So, yeah, you can take things that are better than Adderall that make your brain work incredibly well. Nicotine's one of them. Modafinil is a prescription drug. That's another danger. Coffee is a third thing. These are Mother Nature's original nootropics. The coffee and the nicotine. Anyway.
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Tudor Dixon
Hmm. So interesting. Okay, so if people wanna learn more, they can go to this conference. It's the Beyond Biohacking Conference. This is. You said it's May 27th through the 29th.
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Dave Asprey
Correct. In Austin, Texas. And just go to biohackingconference.com and I've
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Tudor Dixon
heard there's a code that they can use to get $400 off. If they use the code tutor 400. Is that true?
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Dave Asprey
That is true. Code tutor 400 to get a discount. And you will meet people who are totally curious, totally interested, and just willing to say, I want to be more than healthy. I want to do something beyond.
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Tudor Dixon
So are they going there and they're listening to lectures or is this interactive? Just give us a little idea of what they'll see.
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Dave Asprey
Super interactive. So there's a huge community there. Like, everyone is friendly. Steve Aoki is playing for the party. And it's actually a themed party this year. It's Spirit Animal. Last year it was 80s, right? So people, thousands of people showed up for like a major dj and we're just having fun. The inventors for hundreds of biohacking devices and supplements. They're there, they're giving talks, but they're also there. So it's like an adult playground. You get to go in and like, try the thing for your brain. Try the thing. All of the technology for biohacking, for longevity. So if you wanna be smarter faster or live longer. This is probably the place to be.
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Tudor Dixon
And we'll find truly mold free coffee there.
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Dave Asprey
There will be danger coffee on an unlimited basis for you.
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Tudor Dixon
Amazing. All right, so you're. You're convincing me. I. Because I really. I. I'm telling you, I'm not kidding when I say I've been trying to figure out exactly what this is, and it does seem hard. So now I'm gonna check out AI And I'm gonna. So I'll be somewhat of a stalker, but you won't know because you don't know what I'm doing on AI which is the great thing. I can, like, privately stalk you.
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Dave Asprey
Definitely also go to Instagram. Dave Asprey. I post a lot about just the latest.
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Tudor Dixon
This is where I watched a lot of your videos.
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Dave Asprey
Cool.
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Tudor Dixon
Awesome. Thank you so much, Dave Asprey. It's been great talking to you, and I am so impressed with what you're doing.
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Dave Asprey
Thanks, Tutor.
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Tudor Dixon
Absolutely. Thank you. And thank you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. As always, you can get it wherever you get your podcast, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Rumble or YouTubeutter Dixon. But just join us on the podcast and right now, go have a blessed day.
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