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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
You are listening to the Tudor Dixon Podcast and we are going to cover what is going on in China today and how that is seeping into the United States, how communism is seeping into the United States and what we can do about it. But kind of like, how did this happen? How do we recognize this? And first of all, we want to get into kind of a little bit of a controversial story. And that is you may have heard your children talking about or your grandchildren talking about Labubus and Lefufus. And I know that's like some of you are going, what even is that word? This is a toy that is coming from China. I unfortunately have a lot of experience with it, having four daughters that are in that age of where you see a toy like this and it goes viral and everybody wants it. And this is the situation of so many people. But there is a story about the Labubus that you don't know. So I have Dr. Eric Patterson with me. He is the President and CEO of Victims of Communism Memorial foundation that teaches the truth about communism. And I know people are probably saying, Dr. Patterson, why are you here talking about Labubus? But it goes to how they're made in China, right?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
That's exactly right thanks for having me today. And we released a report, it's been in the New York Times, the BBC and other places as well, two weeks ago that demonstrates that the cotton that is used in many of these Labubu dolls, and it was 16 out of 20 tested in three separate labs, is generated in the areas of slave labor in western China. And we know this. 90% of China's cotton crop comes from these areas in the west where there are 300 concentration camps where the workers are imprisoned, Muslim uyghurs and others. 20% of the global cotton supply comes from there. And you can do genetic testing of cotton fibers and show where they came from. And 16 of the 20, it came from there. So these are a fun little innocent looking doll that are a craze around the world, and yet there's really blood on the hands of the people who are making a profit from these dolls in China.
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Tudor Dixon
And when you say they are imprisoned, they're imprisoned because of their faith, is that right?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
And their ethnicity. So China has a policy, whether it's in Tibet with Buddhist Tibetans or in the western provinces where these Americans would often say, well, there's kind of a more Mongolian look, a Central Asian look to these Muslim Uyghurs, but also Kazakhs, also Kyrgyz and others in the Western. They're minorities. And China has a policy that's basically genocidal of forced sterilization, imprisonment, imprisonment or a forced blending of the populace so that these bloodlines will essentially disappear and it'll be an entirely Han Chinese population over time.
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Tudor Dixon
How can the world not do something about that? I mean, I want to get back to the dolls in a second, but I have to comment on this. We have liberals in this country that are outrage about everything, but it doesn't seem like they are outraged when we see people horrifically murdered and raped in Israel. And when we find out that there are people who are being sterilized and imprisoned and enslaved in China, there's still this wild love on the left for China. Why?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
I think that what's so frightening in this is that even Muslim majority countries are not speaking out against the genocidal policies of China directed toward this primary, primarily Muslim population. And this shows the scale of coercion, intimidation and bullying by Beijing, buying off other regimes, intimidating them privately. So we don't have Indonesia recently on the record against this. We don't have the Arab states like Egypt and others. We don't have Turkey speaking out on a regular basis confronting China on these terrible, terrible policies. And of course we need to be doing it in the United States as well. It's not a conservative or liberal issue. Like you said, everyone should be in favor of the common humanity of these men, women and children. Not nearly enough is being done. The US I'm proud to say, did pass a Uyghur Force Protection labor act several years ago. Marco Ruby and others led on that. But much of the world is not justly outraged about how horrific these crimes are.
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Tudor Dixon
Is that because they are receiving too many goods from China, they feel like they can't go against them because they wouldn't be able to supply their people with enough food or products or what. What is the control that China has?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Well, part of it is it's far away. Think about Neville Chamberlain going into World War II. Let Czechoslovakia be divided up. And if I remember right, he said something about it's a people that we do not know far, far away. And so many citizens in Western countries and around the world, they're more interested in. They don't know about these things. It's not always covered in the press. They also, you know, they're thinking about low prices for, for socks and for clothing and things of that nature and not really being able to tie these. These. These fun little Labubu dolls to slave labor. Here's another one. Last year we published a report that showed that China was repackaging tomato products, primarily tomato paste and things as manufactured in Italy and then selling them in Europe that way. I'm very proud that our work with the BBC and others exploit demonstrating that this was going on resulted in 11 months, a drop of 76% of the use of those products. Imports to Italy, 60% to Western Europe. But the way that it worked was we had to get in front of European members of Parliament. Them understand that this was slave labor producing these products, and then them pass laws to slow down these imports. It is not easy, but we can demonstrate slave labor in China.
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Tudor Dixon
So let me ask you, when we see all of these things online and we're constantly barraged by like, inexpensive clothes, inexpensive this, inexpensive that, you get the ads all the time, the TEMU ads, the Shein ads, and my daughter's. A few years ago, Sheen really blew up. And all the kids were like, I've got to order because I can get this for $5. And so I remember specifically a product that was made here in the United. My daughter got. It was a sweatshirt. It was like $75. And she saved up and she was excited to get the sweatshirt. And the next day, her girlfriend Comes over with almost the exact same sweatshirt for 699. And it was. The lettering was the same. I mean, a child of God on it. Everything. It looked the same, but the feel of the fabric was incredibly different. I mean, it was almost like it was sweatshirt material that felt like you could. It was like mesh. You could almost pull it apart if you wanted to pull, really. And I think that's something that young people don't know. They're like, why wouldn't we? We can get this for so much less money. But they really are stealing the concepts. And obviously, I'm a manufacturer, so I know from the years I had in the steel foundry business that they steal IP constantly. And anything that you have made over there, you might as well be just giving away. How do you control these? I mean, if you're telling me this is in the Labubu dolls, I cannot believe that the same cotton is not being used in Shein clothing and Temu clothing and all of these clothes that are coming, but probably even more clothes, because American companies are making things over there. How do you control it?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Well, it's very hard to control. And I think that there's a good news story and then maybe a challenge for our parents. I think the challenge for our parents is young people, by the air they're breathing these days, really care about social justice of some form. This is a justice issue, and it's a justice issue about the terrible conditions that so many of these people labor under in a place like China and Vietnam is the same way. So one of these things is we can be in our homes, in our houses of worship, in our schools. We should be activating that button. Here's a way that you can demonstrate that you care about these issues is by not buying things from a country like that and looking for ways that you can buy things that are made in the Western hemisphere or things that are made in Indonesia or in India, or some of the alternatives, particularly to China, America's greatest threat out there. The second there are corporations who take a stand. The best example, perhaps about a year ago, was Adidas, who said that there were things that they were not going to do in China, and the Chinese government attacked them. And it showed that the Chinese government actually is watching who is stepping up against them, which companies are willing to try to take a stand to manufacture in certain places, not in others. Adidas was very courageous. And it's a reminder. Companies can make decisions. They're humans. They can make moral choices about what they're going to do. And what they're not going to do?
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Tudor Dixon
Well, one of the reasons that companies often pull out of China is because there are fakes and they're being copied and they're stealing the ip. But I find the. The interesting thing about the Leboo story and. And at the beginning I said Leboos and Lefufus is that China has kind of embraced this Labubu story as, like, a good news. China, we actually made something. It's not made in China. It was fully created in China. Like, the idea came from China. So they were very excited about this. And then all of these. I mean, to be honest, the culture is to make knockoffs, right? So then people within the country start making knockoffs and they crack down on this pretty hard. What is it like if you get caught making a knockoff of a Chinese product in China? Is there. Are there punishments? How does that work?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Yeah, there are punishments. There's fines and possibilities of imprisonment, just like in other places, but not if
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Tudor Dixon
you steal American ideas.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
That's exactly right. And here's the key point. People will say, well, you know, China's not that bad. They're a capitalist country today. Maybe they're a little authoritarian, but this is absolutely not true. A free market, a capitalist society, works on trust. It works on contracts. It allows for freedom of ideas and for innovation. It allows for people to protect their ideas through patents, trademarks, et cetera. All the business practices that you did in your business. The way China has pulled itself out of poverty over the past 25 years is, like you said, surveilling other countries, industrial espionage, stealing intellectual property, mass production of these things. In other words, it is not a culture that has been innovative and creative. It has been a government complicity and outright theft and then remanufacturing, RE engineering, et cetera. That is not a free market system. And you can't own a whole business over there if you're a Westerner. Of course, the party or the army or some other organ of the Communist State will own 51% of the business, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. This is not a free market capitalist system.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, I think that's the concern that people have in the United States about China coming in and buying businesses in the United States. Why would we allow that? They've never allowed us to have full ownership of a company within the borders of China. Why would we allow the Chinese to come here? And I think there are some concerns over the President's trip. Is that going to be discussed? Is there going to be Some leniency there. But you made a point before we got on about there being a few strong men left in the world. It stuck with me. I want you to reiterate that because I think in the past, the United States has always felt like, well, if we stand up and we have a certain amount of gravitas, we have England or we have the UK we have Germany, we have Italy, we have those leaders also backing us, but they're not as strong as they used to be. There is some concern that Donald Trump is holding the line here, and it's a hard line to hold. And I'll just say we had someone on recently who was talking about the war with Iran and saying, look, it's not so much the danger of them having the nuclear weapon, it's the power that they wield by having a nuclear weapon and then they become the fourth strongman. So tell me what you were saying about that, the Russia, China, United States connection.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Well, I think that one of the things that President Trump has faced on the world stage is having almost no peers. Part of that is the maturity level of his age group. Part of it is the things that he's done. And so when you look on the world stage, there really are only on the international stage only two other people who are kind of at his peer level. One is Vladimir Putin and one is President Xi. And then maybe there's a couple of others two notches down or something. For instance, in Turkey and the current leader in Egypt, who's a close American ally. There are not these kind of strong, experienced, and these guys are all quite masculine. There are not these kinds of people running any of our European or other NATO allies right now. There are some strong people, I'd say in Italy, Giorgia Meloni is strong, but she's the age of Trump's daughters. And it's a different generation. There's not the years and years of experience in a variety of domains. And so I do think that President Trump, as he's reentered the world stage, but this was also true during his first administration, has virtually no peers and also no risk takers in the West. In other words, people who are willing to use power forcefully to act on the national interest rather than hand wringing, second guessing and an unwillingness to act. We saw this across Europe. I mean, look at the way that Europe has frittered away its energy security, handed it to the Russ in pursuit of some sort of climate virtue instead of being resilient about nuclear, coal, natural gas, oil, et cetera. They just handed it to their enemies. In other words, the kinds of decisive choices that doesn't kick the can down the road. The reason we have the Iran crisis. Remember, they've attacked essentially almost all of their neighbors in the past. They're responsible for close to 200American deaths in Iraq. They support the Houthi rebels, they support attacks on Israel. I mean, the list goes on. And it go back to them supporting the terrorists that bombed 219 Marines in Lebanon in 1983, that bombed two of our embassies in Africa. It is a long road of injured and dead Americans and others. The last couple of presidents have just kicked this can down the road. Barack Obama opened his hand to the regime, not the people demonstrating in the streets. Biden was the same way and most of our European allies have been the same way. So President Trump is in a very unique position to not kick the can down the road on Venezuela, not kick the can down the road on Cuba, not kick the can down the road on Iran.
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Tudor Dixon
are these leaders of other countries though? Becoming kind of romanced by communism? I mean, you brought up the leaders in Europe, but what about Canada? I mean you saw the Prime Minister of Canada saying we're going to align with China. Like getting mad at President Trump and saying we think China is a good option for us. I mean kind of walk that back a little bit. But people were stunned when he said, you know what? We're going to bring China closer. And we've seen that this, with some of the European countries, certainly we've seen this dance between Russia and China, which is incredibly dangerous. But if you have Russia and China, which is like part of the axis of evil together, and the United States alone, and some of these younger leaders, as you point out, who I do think are susceptible to the Roman romantic nature of the utopian communism, you know, they. They are stepping away from the United States in a very dangerous way.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think part of it is almost all of these people are statists. In other words, they've lost cultures of individual responsibility, of small businesses, of the corporate sector, of all of the other voluntary associations and nonprofit parts that make America so vibrant. And so it makes us. Is far more individualistic. Most of the countries, particularly Canada, there's just kind of a default position that the state should do things, the state should take care of everybody, and that we're not responsible for things. And that ties into a sense of, well, then efficiency is the most important thing. And there's no one more efficient than a hardcore authoritarian or totalitarian regime that makes society very orderly, but not free, and not free in all of the best possible ways. I think that that's part of that romance.
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Tudor Dixon
I think you do just see the one side of it. This is, oh, there's no crime. You don't have any litter on the streets. It's great. Everybody's working. However, there's no crime because the minute a crime is committed, you're executed. I mean, for small crimes. And there is no ability to own anything on your own.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
On, pardon me, the state's committing the crimes.
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Tudor Dixon
Exactly, yes. And that's what, you know, we. I was talking yesterday on radio with someone who was talking about AOC's comment on billionaires, and you know, she's out there saying, you can't become a billionaire. Well, that's absolutely ridiculous. That's the beauty of the United States of America. But in her world, she wants to make sure no one can become a billionaire because instead of working for an independent job creator, they want you to work for the government. I mean, look at what they've done. They've tried to nationalize things in Canada. You look at healthcare, people come here because they're so desperate to actually get even. Even have a, you know, heart. Heart surgery done. They can't get it done in Canada. The government is not efficient. The Government is not a business. Very rarely are people, even in the government, business owners. I mean, when we look at the people who are chosen for Congress and Senate, it's probably more. Probably more than 50% are not small business owners or have never been small business owners. And to me, that is a very scary thing when you think about this catching on with people that they're going, yes, I want communism. Yes, I want the government to control. And I see this in here in Michigan with Abdul El Sayad running, you've got Rashida Tlaib here. She's endorsing other candidates. The state of Michigan, the Democrat Party is leaning more and more toward communism. You've got Maine, which you would never think Maine was going to be in this situation. But you have Janet Mills, who's the governor there, who said, I'm going to run for Senate. And then this openly communist guy, Graham Platner, comes in, Communist, tattoo everything. And she steps out of the race because she says the party doesn't have space for me anymore. We see it with Mamdani, we see it with Talarika. We see Obama leaning there and pushing that. What does this mean for the United States? And how are these young people getting drawn in by something so dangerous and so anti American?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
You're exactly right that it is dangerous and it's anti American. And a poll last year demonstrated that about 62% of young adults and teenagers thought that socialism and communism are a good idea for our country.
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Tudor Dixon
That's crazy.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
How did they get there? Well, a big part of it is simply they've been raised in an environment where we've provided them with everything. And so by the time that they're young adults, it's in part what they're taught in most of our universities today, which is a very hard left type of message that denigrates our own country and our past. It rips America apart rather than focusing on the incredible legacy of liberty and opportunity over the past 250 years. So they change our history. They make these young people hate our history or feel ashamed of our history, and then, then they root out a fundamental morality in our country. In other words, there's not really right or wrong. You get to just do whatever you want and you tie that to, and the government should support you in doing that. And by the time many of these people are 22, 23, 24, they've paid very few bills. Their phone, their transportation, their healthcare, their education, everything has been paid up to that point. And then all of a sudden, their bills, their responsibilities, At a different level. And honestly, it's on an older generation, it's on us. Maybe we didn't prepare them intellectually and in terms of just practical life for the way that you get ahead in America is to be responsible for yourself, to be responsible for your family, to be responsible for your neighbors. And that's the best way to live. That's the American dream. That's not what most of them have been talking about.
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Tudor Dixon
Don't you think there was a switch probably 20 years ago in public school where it went to, we're gonna, we're going to allocate funding based on passing testing. And testing was changed to we're going to test English and math, we're going to test reading and math. And then there was no history testing. And so a lot of the schools were like, we're going to teach to what we're tested on because we want to make sure that we get the money in so that we can continue to teach. And they focused everything on those two areas. And then history kind of went by the wayside. And I, I suspect that this was. There was an ultimate plan in this because a lot of these students, they don't know the history of communism. Somehow that gets skipped in their entire. In their entire 12 years in public schools, they skip American history or world history and communism and the hundred million people killed by communism. Them.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
You've hit on a lot of, I think, exactly the right. I mean, there has been a change in the past 20 years about how we teach American history. And it's through a neo Marxist lens. That's very simple. One side are the oppressors and the other side are the oppressed. And it's white, male, Christian primarily, who are the oppressors. And women and young people and people of color are the oppressed. And it's a very simplistic but easy to grasp concept. Especially when we say, and by the way, way, what's your oppressed group? Certainly you're in some sort of oppressed group. We'll give you a medal if you tell us what your victim status is. And so this change from kind of a. And Mamdani made fun of a rugged individualism. Americans are about an appropriate individualism. Individualism is not alienation. It is people taking responsibility for themselves, their families and their communities. That's the American way. But tied to this is a change in education that is not about facts and figures. And, you know, we need the facts. 100 million people murdered by communism. This is what it looks like. And America won the Cold War by fighting communism. Instead, a lot of our education has been, well, tell us how you feel. And so essay prompts that are how do you feel about this? What do you think about this rather than what the facts are? I mean, it really is a subtle but a seismic shift when it's all about how someone feels about something. What is your opinion? What is your perspective rather than the facts?
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Tudor Dixon
So what is pop Marxism?
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Pop Marxism is a term that we've coined here at the Victims of Communism foundation to talk about the fact that socialism as an idea, communism as an idea, are quite faddish. It's not that people are reading the Communist Manifesto. Young people really don't know what they're talking about. They have an idea that socialism. Socialism is the warmth of collectivism, to quote Mamdani, that in other words, it is somehow the government and others taking care of one another and a sense that, you know, someone else should be responsible for a lot of my costs in life. It would be a good thing for government to subsidize my rent, my groceries, my transportation, my healthcare, my education. It's kind of a willingness to say this type of status, it's okay. It's pop in the sense that it is both a fad and it's just not rooted to the fundamental facts of what Marxism, socialism and communism really are. How deadly they are, how anti faith they are, how anti human they are, how anti family they are.
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Tudor Dixon
False.
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Tudor Dixon
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We certainly have seen this clash because it seems as though there's a push to for people back to faith and young men coming back to faith and this divide of young women being pushed away from faith and being told like you're being oppressed. The victimhood is very effective on women and I think it's more effective on women because we are nurturers. That is in our nature. We are easily convinced that we have to fix something. That's kind of how through emotion, not tinkering, but emotionally caudal. That is where I think we are susceptible to this message. And it draws people away from relying on God. And it says you have to do this yourself and you have to take on your own life and your life is yours and, and your life is yours to make of it and you have to take it on all yourself. And then taking everything on yourself and not having a partner in life also creates a lot of confusion and division. And ultimately that I believe, allows that chaos and that disruption in this country has allowed for China to come in right under our nose. And that's very dangerous. I mean, I look at just what happened in California this week with this Arcadia mayor. How on earth. So if you didn't hear about this, we discovered that the mayor of Arcadia in California was actually working for China. And to when I say working, she was spreading their propaganda. She had her own fake news site that was spreading Chinese propaganda. And they, they discovered emails between her and the ccp. When she would publish something, they would tinker with it and then they would send it back and she would republish it. And then, then they would tell her, you know, this is good, we're proud of your work. And her response would legitimately be, thank you, dear Leader. This was a mayor in California that was elected. This is shocking to me.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Well, it should be shocking to all of us. But unfortunately this is not an isolated incident. We have this happening in media, we have it happening in political life. Remember, we had an aide at a very senior level in New York, very similar thing.
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Tudor Dixon
We've seen another senior, Dianne Feinstein she had some, but her driver was a Chinese spy.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
That's right. And we have plenty of people, particularly in the academy, particularly in universities, in higher education. Until very recently, we had these Confucius Institutes all across the country on major college campuses. We're starting to finally see just how much Chinese money is finally being exposed, are going to major universities. There's a high level of complicity in kind of looking the other way if the money is coming in. And Americans, legislators, but our private citizens, we have to be very, very much on guard. China is just buying influence. China's not the only one. I'll give you an example from last year, is that the Vietnamese government was going to put on a major trade show in Houston. The 25 elected officials from the US who were going to come and talk about how great our relationship was with communists, Communist Vietnam and all of these economic things that we've talked about in China, they're very similar in Vietnam. There's zero private property in Vietnam. To open a business there, you have to have a government approved partner, which is usually a government entity, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They have slave labor, et cetera. Not on the scale of China,
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Dr. Eric Patterson
they've been doing a charm offensive in the United States just like the Chinese have. And we need to be very vigilant. We should not be working, working in these ways with communist countries.
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Tudor Dixon
Such a powerful message, and I think it's an incredibly powerful message for young people. But I honestly am walking away from this podcast today and thinking about the number of people who said Donald Trump is too old to run for office. But what you said was so valuable. There is so much you learn in life and he is among his peers with these other strong leaders out there, that I don't know if a younger person is prepared to go up against this. And I do think it's something critical that we think of as we go into these midterm elections. Choose people who are trying to understand history, trying to understand what the future is and looking to those people who have lived it. I think it's so critical for us to respect our elders and look to those people who have lived it to figure out exactly how we go forward. That I think is something we've been missing for way too long.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Can I make a little prediction? I usually don't use the word prediction. I think that you will increasingly see, though, from the far left ageist arguments, in other words, a class of people who are going to increasingly be the target of the hard left. Are People of maturity. And we've already seen this in polls that say members of Congress are too old, senators are too old. The average age in the House, a story in the New York Times last week, is 57 or 58 years old. So it's actually not that old. Those are people of maturity and experience. It is not as if they're 90 years old or something. But we're seeing this older group. Quite a few stories recently in the press about how, and it's framed like this. Young people believe that the old are hoarding their wealth, not sharing their wealth, not taking care of the young. And it's setting the young against the old. And I think that we will increasingly see, just like Mamdani, for instance, has declared war on US owners, the owners of grocery stores, the owners of private property, landlords, just as he's declared war on owners, that we will see a mix in there, frankly, of a politics of envy, pitting younger people against the old. And that is part of the tactic of the left. The owners are the olders. We should take from them. The older people are not giving you your fair due. They're not taking care of you. So, so let's take, let's seize from those people who are of an older
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Tudor Dixon
generation and be careful that you have people out there who are manipulating you into believing that you have to put a law into place, like vote or have your representative vote to put a law into place to prevent older people from serving. So what state was it that the Supreme Court, Sarah, they were just trying to say they can't be over 50 now. The. Just a couple days ago, there's a one stat, Virginia. Virginia is now trying to say that you cannot serve on the Virginia supreme court after age 55. What? But that's exactly what you're saying. They are trying to make sure that you're younger and younger, more and more naive so that you cannot understand you are being overtaken by communism. I mean, it is the slow boiled frog and they are getting rid of anybody who can tell you the truth. Truth. It's kind of shocking, but I think it's so critical that people understand what's happening right in front of their face, like, do not vote for this. And honestly, I know people are huge fans of term limits, but that as long as you can get somebody out before they figure out how to stop things. I know there are bad people there, but there's also going to be a lot worse if it's the bureaucracy that controls and not the person who has to listen to their constituents.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
You're exactly right. There's always winners and losers. And anytime you change the system. And so we ought to always ask the question, who benefits or who are the winners if we do something like term limits, Anytime we make a change to the democratic system that we have in this great republic, there are winners and losers. And we think that somehow there's going to be some sort of win for the taxpayer if we impose term limits. We really do need to then investigate who are the winners. How would a taxpayer win if there's term limits? What would change? And like you said, it probably puts more hand, more power into the hands of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats rather than elected officials who are term limited every two or four or six years. In other words, they're up for election. That's how we do term limits.
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Tudor Dixon
Right. Exactly, Exactly. It's been such a joy talking to you. I know it's a tough subject, but it's great to have somebody who has such deep knowledge on it. Dr. Eric Patterson, thank you so for being on today.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
It was my pleasure. And I hope that your listeners will come and visit us at the Victims of Communism museum in Washington, D.C. or look at our curriculum and other resources that are available on our website and our Amazon page.
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Tudor Dixon
I thought I saw that you have some events coming up too.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
That's right. We have a special exhibition right now that contrasts the beauties of American liberty with the horrors of communism. We have borrowed some items from Glenn Beck's museum in Texas. So we have an early version of the Declaration of Independence. We have facsimile of Jefferson's handwritten copy that blasts slavery as an evil practice. And some other just really neat artifacts for visitors and for students here at the museum. And then we have a series of events book launch tonight with Sam Brownback, his new book on religious freedom and persecution in China here at the museum in a series of book talks, speakers, films, and then in October an anti communism film festival. And all of those things are right there on our website. Website.
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Tudor Dixon
Definitely. Check it out. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today. I really appreciate it.
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Dr. Eric Patterson
Well, thanks for having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Appreciate it and thank you. Absolutely. And thank you all for listening as always. You can get the episode at the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, you can share it from rumble or YouTube uterdixon. Just make sure you tell people to tune in to the Tutor Dixon podcast and have a blessed day.
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