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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Gianno Caldwell's Fight for Justice
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Tudor Dixon
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Gianno Caldwell
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Tudor Dixon
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Gianno Caldwell
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Tudor Dixon
Hey everyone, welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. I'm sure you have all seen Gianno Caldwell out there. He is an analyst on Fox News. But one of the things that you've probably seen him talking about is his brother who was murdered, murdered on the streets of Chicago. And he became the founder of the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. It's a nonprofit that is dedicated to ensuring a justice system that prioritizes the safety and security of all law abiding citizens. He has written a book and it is an amazing book and I am here to talk to you about it today with the man himself. The book is called the Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis. Giano, thank you so much for joining me and talking about this.
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Gianno Caldwell
Absolutely. Thank you. I really enjoy your commentary and your work, so thank you for having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, I appreciate that. I was reading through this and this is a book that we have needed for so long and it makes me, it breaks my heart that it comes out of your pain of losing your 18 year old brother, Christian. It's a story that we have heard so, so, so many times. The, I mean, we heard it in Detroit over the weekend. I and it makes me tear up to think about this. But a drive by shooting in Detroit. A four year old boy shot in the back and killed and his mother is out there with her five or six children. I think he was the youngest of six. And all of her children watched her youngest son murdered out in broad daylight playing at the park. Your, your book covers this so, so. Well, I don't know if that's the right way to say that. Oh my gosh. Tell us a little bit about how you, how you decided you had to follow these people's stories because it's not just your brother's story and it's the story of many people.
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Gianno Caldwell
Yes, yes. And again, thank you for having me. I'm honored to be here to discuss this with you. On June 24, 2022, my life changed forever when my innocent teenage baby brother Christian was murdered in Chicago. And since then I've been out for justice, not just for him, but other families as well who have experienced the same tragedy. And that's when I established the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. A Caldwell Institute. Please support our efforts there. You know, this book itself, the Day My Brother Was Murdered. My Journey Through American Violent Crime Crisis. As I've been attempting to grieve my brother's death, which I really have, and I'VE been focused on justice for him, which has been the fueling of my efforts. I look back at that, at that day. Over 150 people were murdered that day across the nation that day. People like that day, that day. And I gotta tell you, I want to write about that day. Not just about my brother, but I chose eight other families. So a total of nine people like James from Philadelphia, who was an army veteran who had ptsd, so he oftentimes couldn't sleep. So he would go to the park at 1 or 2 in the morning. And on June 24, he went to the park and there was some teenagers in that park and some kids that were younger than teenager and he said to them, what are you all doing out here? You need to go home. And they end up beating him to death with a traffic cone. His name is James or Catherine.
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Tudor Dixon
That's that story. I just want to stop for a second because the impact of that story on me and I'm sure on, on many people when they read it, is how the community had changed because you go through so many times, he was like a mentor, he was somebody that everybody saw as a father figure or an uncle figure, that in the past, kids on the street, no matter what time of night it was, would have known who he was and would have loved him and had enough respect for the community that. And there was no, this was just a senseless murder. This wasn't like a fight. He was asking about their welfare really. And they just brutally beat him to death.
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Gianno Caldwell
And the truth of the matter is, when I was growing up, if any adult said, hey, you should be going home, everyone would leave the park. Almost like it was the police themselves saying go home. But in this case, those kids didn't listen. And in this case, lives have been devastated in their wake of their actions. Or people like Catherine, who was a wife, a mother, a grandmother 64 years old, who was a chemical engineer going home in Texas when a drug deal went bad. The guy that was selling the drugs was trying to rip off the guy that was buying the drugs and vice versa. A shootout takes place on the highway in Texas and she ends up losing her life and her family lost the beacon of hope for their own family. Or baby Cecilia in Chicago, who was five months old, four days from her six month birthday. She's in the car with her parents, her mom and dad up front and her three year old brother in the backseat when they thought they heard fireworks. And then the three year old brother said that his sister was bleeding. She was murdered. Shot. These are the stories that are absolutely tragic and heartbreaking. There's many of them, but we already know how bad it is. We read the newspapers every day. We see it on tv. We know that there's been a crisis in many cities, especially the very liberal ones. So I wanted to think about how can I bring about solutions to this problem? So I talk to people like John Walsh from America's Most Wanted, or Dr. Drew Penske on the mental health crisis that has impacted our country and its contributions to crime, or Sean Hannity on the politics of it, or Dr. Bill Winston, my pastor from Chicago has a 20,000 member church. We've talked to educators because there are solutions to these issues, and we need to explore it. We need to speak out. We need to be very direct about it. And the reason why, for a lot of people, which oftentimes when these issues will come up, it would say, oh, that's just those. Those folks over their problem. That's not our issue. That's their problem. Well, the truth of the matter is, me, myself, I had to learn the very hard way any of these things can happen to someone in your very own family. So it's time for us to unite as a community, as a country, and say enough is enough, period.
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Tudor Dixon
And uniting it, I think, is the key here. Because even what you're doing, that is it's plugging one hole. But there's so many holes. I mean, if I just look at Malik's story. What an interesting story. He goes to a school that specializes in trauma. Because look at these kids. They're dealing with trauma all the time, every day. I mean, the little boy who watched his sister get shot in the head, now he's dealing with trauma. This is. This is a society where kids, they experience one trauma after another. And Malik is in this high school. It's super successful. They have a great graduation rate. These kids are going to college. Six days after he graduates, he gets killed.
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Gianno Caldwell
Yeah, that's right. That's right. And to that point, and that's such a heartbreaking story to that point, Dr. Drew even spoke on within the book you can get the Day my brother was murdered. He spoke about how the trauma has real impact on our daily lives and also the decisions that some of these children will make in the future. A lot of folks in these neighborhoods have become numb to the murders of different people because they see it all the time. I know you have a bunch of stories you can tell about people you know, and you've had personal experiences as well, but the Thing is, they happen so much in these left leaning cities where progressives run it, liberal Democrats run it. And I'm not saying it doesn't happen all over the nation because it does. But there are certain areas where soft on climb policies flourish, where George Swartz funded prosecutors, I call them political prosecutors because that's how they act. They don't care about the nature of a society and the residents in which they're supposed to serve for their protection. They care about the politics of it all. And that's where it's become a major issue in American society and that's where things absolutely need to change.
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Tudor Dixon
So that's what as I'm reading through this book and I want people to know that this book, I know it sounds like we're telling you a lot of horrible stories, but you are actually stepping into a lot of the discussions that you see on tv, TV every single day and you're not getting that full, well rounded discussion. You have one side and a lot of times this is a political argument. You've got one side saying no cash bail and the other side saying we've got to lock up people who are bad. And you have in the background this constant regurgitation of trauma in these kids lives and everybody's stepping aside and exactly what you're saying, saying, you know what, that's not my neighborhood. But I believe if we pass this law or this law then maybe something will happen. But there's so much value in what you say in this book because you talk about faith. And no matter what faith it is, faith in communities, it changes people, gives them hope, it gives them a reason to live. And I will share with you one of the reasons that I decided to run for governor in the state of Michigan. And that is so when I moved up to Michigan, I live in an area where part of the county that I live in has a high crime area. And so I was called to jury duty one day and the jury duty was for two guys who had broken into somebody's house and stolen. It was a marijuana crime. They stole marijuana. They had beaten the guys over the head with guns. And the question is, was it guns? Was it not guns? And I remember these, these guys were, one was 28 and the other was 27. Each of them had over four kids. They were going to go to jail for 30 years. We didn't know this at the time as we're trying to decide what the issue is here, but when I left I had a police officer walk me out to the car and he said, I could tell this really bothered you. And I said, yeah, because I want to know that we really knew they had weapons. That was the question. Did they really have them? And so one other girl and me, we were going through this and saying, you know, I want proof. I want to know. It's really hard when you're in that jury box with 12 people, you know? And he said, you should know. And this has also stuck with me. You should know. These guys never had a chance. The one guy's uncle is a cop killer. The other guy's dad is a cop killer. They were set up. They. They were never going to be good guys. They were always going to end up in jail. And I was like, no, that cannot be the way we look at this. You know, but it was just accepted. And that to what you say in this book, I actually marked the page because I thought it was because you say, if all. If. If a thousand white kids were killed in Chicago in a single year, would something change? And it. And that was exactly what I thought. This guy is like, these guys never had a chance. Ignore it. But if they were white, would he have felt differently? I mean, it really. It is like a scar on my soul. I think about it all the time. Why do we just ignore this? And no matter what it is, every politician is ignoring it because the crime is segregated. The murders are segregated more often than not.
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Gianno Caldwell
That is very true. But I think about in the city of Chicago in which I grew up, and we had one of the most thriving downtowns. I think it's honestly just from the look of it. And I've been on every continent but Antarctica. This is the best looking downtown I've ever seen in the world. And I've been all over the world. But the truth of the matter is the city has collapsed. And we used to think that if crime came downtown, that the mayor and everybody else would be up in arms and they would say, no, you can't do this here. Cops everywhere. But the truth is, people are robbing people in Lincoln park now. They're doing shootouts across the street from City Hall. I had a press conference in front of the Chicago police headquart about, I think, maybe a year or two ago. And it was for Murdered Victims Day or something like that. Congress designated a day. I think it was Murder Victims Day or something like that. So I brought together a group of victims of violent crime. They had family members that were murdered. And we want to speak very directly to the Chicago politicians. And I will never forget the person who told me, listen, you gotta be very careful out here. And of course, I'm from Chicago. I lived on the south side. I know you have to be very careful. But I said, we're in front of the Chicago police headquarters. We'll be fine. They said, no, there's been multiple shootouts in front of the Chicago police headquarters. What? In front of the Chicago police headquarters. So at what point, at what point do people say enough is truly enough? And I think that's the conversation that we must have. And that was why it was so important for me to write the day my brother was murdered, my journey through America's violent crime crisis. Because I feel like in many places around the country, we're at a place where it's unsustainable. Life is being snipped away from many families, Lives are being devastated. And then the way that many folks, very progressive folks are going, the direction they're going in as an example where you can still up to $999 worth of items, no problem. It's all good. That's the stare to the next crime and then the next crime. And what is it?
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Tudor Dixon
Such a good point. I mean, something we don't even think because we always talk about that gateway drug. But that gateway crime is the same. And if you are saying one crime is okay, then you are leading people into a life of crime. And ultimately that ends oftentimes in murder or it, it, you know, it almost always ends in you serving jail time. But what we're finding is that these kids are going into jail, they're getting bailed out, and some of them are so young. That is the crazy part. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podc.
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Gianno Caldwell
And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor to both Presidents Clinton and Biden.
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, hey.
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Hey.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
When I was a kid, I was in the, I was in high school in the 90s and. And you understood what this meant because you lived on the south side of Chicago and you also lived in Naperville, where I live. So I went to high school in Naperville, Illinois. And in my I voted number one.
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Gianno Caldwell
Place to live in America year after year. This is what it gets voted yes.
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Tudor Dixon
Yes, exactly. So here I am, a kid in the suburbs. Really? And that was exactly what you're talking about. When you went downtown Chicago, you never even thought about crime because it wasn't in the city, you know, so we would go downtown all the time. And our sociology class said, we're gonna do a swap where you go to Dunbar High School for the day and you have a girl that you get paired up with and then she's gonna come to your high school for the day. And it was such a shocking experience. We went through metal detectors. And you know, it's funny because you.
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Gianno Caldwell
Gotta mention what Dunbar, Dunbar is on the south side of Chicago. And during that time you went there, it was a even more high crime area. A lot of gangs were fighting during that period of time. Just to set the stage for people to understand.
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Tudor Dixon
Right, right. This cannot be more opposite than where I'm going to high school. It is. Yes, it is crime ridden. We're going through. We are going through metal detectors because they're trying to keep the kids safe. This argument that we have every day about, oh, do we want metal detectors at the school? This is the 90s and they had metal detectors at their school. This is before Columbine, before all of that. They have metal detectors at their school to prevent anybody from bringing in a weapon because there is so much fighting. But I don't even know this because I'm 16 and I'm so naive. And we go in and the whole day was different than anything I'd experienced in my life. The teacher said, you, we're going to have an exam. You can't talk to each other. Everybody has to stay in their seat. As soon as the exam started, everybody pushed their seat into a circle, just started talking. And the teacher said nothing. It was so different than my life experience. But. And so that my mind was blown. And then this little girl, she was super smart. You could tell, you know, you just have that sense of somebody, they're really intelligent. And she came to my school and she was shocked. She's like, aren't you guys going to just ditch for lunch? We're like, no, are you kidding me? You know, here I am, this little suburban girl, no, we're not leaving the school. But at lunchtime we talked and I said to her, you know, what are your plans for after high school? And it has stuck with me forever what her answer was. She looked me straight in the eye and she said, I don't expect to live through high school. And I could not even comprehend what she said. And I remember telling saying to her, why would you say that? And she said, from the kids. I went to elementary school with my best, my group of best girlfriends. I'm the only one still alive because every one of them's been shot. That.
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Gianno Caldwell
I mean, how does that not break your heart?
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Tudor Dixon
It's. I'm telling you, it has stayed with me my entire life. Because I believe what you said in this book. When I read those Words I was like, yes, but. But this is why this book is so important and why every politician should read it, because you should be connected to these people. You should have a personal relationship with these families to understand that they have been abandoned. And it's easy to say. You also talk about victim shaming here. Well, why was she awake at this time of night? Why was she out? And I think that was a Brina's story that. Oh, why, why? You know, it's easy to say what wouldn't have happened to me. It's their fault. But why are we. Why do we say that community is different than ours, so it happens there and we're going to look the other way. There cannot be communities in America that we turn our backs on.
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Gianno Caldwell
I 100% agree. And that's a good rationale for why you ran, because you believe that every community counts. And I think that's such a rare belief when it comes to politicians these days. The only communities some of them seemingly care about is wherever their donors live. And that's an unfortunate reality for so many who expect to have a politician that cares about the least of these as well as the people that run the big businesses and do the community organizing or whatever the case may be. And that's why we need to have a conversation, a national conversation, because we cannot live in a society where you cannot feel comfortable walking down your very own streets. I live in Miami, Florida. In Miami, Florida, as you're reading the book, the Day My Brother was Murdered, this is the largest big city in the largest, safest big city in America. And by that I mean it has the lowest homicide rate since the 1950s. When we go outside in Miami, Florida, we're not looking around to see if somebody's going to be shooting us in the next five minutes or maybe this guy is coming up behind us. People feel free to walk about doing their business. And I see sometimes girls walking down the street at 4 or 5 in the morning. Either they're coming from a club or they're going to Pilates. That's the distinction. But they feel safe enough to do so. In the city of Miami, we need to have policies in place that are one, tough on crime, not soft on crime. One in which exercises and considers the full weight of what an individual could have experienced. Whatever those. Whatever the context of it is. But still, in all to your point, like this individual that you were considering in the jury pool. Yeah, they might have come from a rough upbringing. I did, too. But I did make different decisions. We all have to take personal responsibility for the decisions that each of us make as individuals, even though we do come from a bad set of circumstances. And I understand that can be contributing factors and that can be considered by a judge. But we do have to take personal responsibility, and I think that's one of the most important elements. If we can have people that enforces the law fairly across the board, we can be in a better place. Because some of the solutions in this book is just that simple. Enforce the law, arrest somebody for doing something wrong.
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Tudor Dixon
The reason you talk about faith, you talk about morality. James, who is the first person you talk about in the book, he was a strong Muslim. He brought his faith into what he did. He was a mentor to a lot of people. And one of the things that you say is that a lot of these pastors have said they see a change in their community when there is hope, when there is faith. But this is. There have to be houses of worship that are protected, that are safe to go to. That has to be okay. There are so many factors. I think it seems like it's overwhelming at times because, you know, if you're here in Michigan, it's like, well, how do we expect these kids to get jobs when they can't read and their parents can't read, and it's generational that they don't have enough education to be working? Because, I mean, even in our shop, if you couldn't read, you couldn't run the work instructions for the job. You know, so, oh, this is because of this, but. But because there are so many generations that are in this situation that even if you can get in and you can change the schools, you still have to be able to get the. The bad guys off the streets. And you've got these progressives coming in and saying, oh, these people should be let back out because they have to be able to contribute to society. But that's never been the way it's been, and it stinks because it's almost like an entire generation has to be put. It has to be punished for the severe crimes so that the younger generation can see if you murder, if you destroy another life, you pay the consequence.
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Gianno Caldwell
And you must pay the consequence. And, you know, I really appreciate what you mentioned in terms of the point about, you know, young people having religion. And that was Ian who, who owns a number of charter schools throughout New York City, who talked about that for the students in which he's brought through his classrooms, that if they had some type of faith, some kind of religion, that he saw them as the potential of being better, they're more likely to do well in life. And I think that's critically important. And then that's another thing in terms of the punishment that you just mentioned. For the last, since George Floyd, punishment hasn't been much of a conversation for a lot of places. They said we're going to lower the penalty of law on certain crimes for criminal justice reform efforts when there's been nothing but justice for the criminal. When you do that, when you roll back punishment, who do you think pays the price? It's not going to be necessarily Tudor living in Naperville because in Naperville they keep it really tight out there. The police do their jobs, the mayors are active in the community, they're supported.
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Tudor Dixon
To do their job.
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Gianno Caldwell
And very much that's another great point about the defund the police movement which has been a tragic set of policies that have been pushed in places like Los Angeles, New York and New York. Obviously if this socialist gets in as mayor of New York, they're going to be in a world of hurt, I should say world of hurt over him wanting to defund the police and also get rid of jails, which seems insane, especially in this era. We need strong leadership and that takes courage. And we have a lot of elected officials who unfortunately do not have courage to make the tough decisions. They're thinking about their next reelection, they're thinking about their donors, they're thinking about special interests. The special interest you should be thinking about is that resident down the street that's a six month old baby who got murdered. That's the special interest. You should be thinking about this 64 year old woman who was shot, shot and killed. Those are special interests. Those are the only special interests you should be considerate of. But that has not happened in many places. Now we need to turn the tide and it comes with strong leadership. People like Pam Bondi getting involved in the Attorney General's office, who joined the Caldwell Institute for public safety@caldwellinstitute.org on our advisory board when we first started, Congressman Burgess Owen, who joined us, many other folks who believe in law and order or principal leadership. Now we can be tough on crime, but we can also, you know, think about to the point that I raised earlier.
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Tudor Dixon
Right. And that is, that's what I'm saying about you're plugging one hole. There's so many other holes that you have to plug. So even if you were to plug the education hole, you still have the punishment hole. Even if you plug the punishment hole, you still have the trauma hole. There's so much that has. There's so many organizations that have to come into these communities to really say there's going to be a permanent change here. Faith is obviously one of them. But I think something else that fascinated me and I think, because I hadn't really considered it, because I don't live it. And if you don't live it, you can't really fix it unless you read this book. And, and I, and I believe that sincerely, that if you haven't read the stories, and it is so beautifully, beautifully written, I want people to know that too, that as you read through these stories, you. That it's so descriptive. You're really taken into the moment and you talk about James, the girl that didn't engage. There were multiple little kids. I mean, we call them teenagers, but just barely. They were little kids that attacked this man. They were 11, 12, 15 years old.
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Gianno Caldwell
Yes, that's right. There was some younger than teenage. Yep.
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Tudor Dixon
So these are. These are kids, you know, and the one girl didn't engage. She watched. And then you say she. She is taking out the garbage one night, she gets attacked. And this is a common thing. I had never heard about this before. Anybody who could potentially be a witness, suddenly they get killed. She wasn't killed, but she was certainly. They tried to kill. They shot her in the head. They tried to kill her. This is, to me, that was another. Another bit of information that I'm like, okay, so how as a community do we step back and say now that somebody's been hurt and there's a massive group, and we see this in Detroit all the time where there's these massive groups that get into these shootouts. And sadly, in the summertime, like I said over the weekend, this happened. And there it's a lot of teenagers. And oftentimes the people that hit are women and kids. That's the crazy part about it. The people that get shot in these shootouts seem to always be women and children. But what I hadn't considered is that even James family was in danger. They said they were constantly. Yes, she's constantly looking over her shoulder. They have people casing their homes and warning them. If you keep this up, if you keep trying to find out who killed him, you're next. And you said you've never had justice. They've never found the killer of your brother.
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Gianno Caldwell
No, that, that. That's absolutely correct. I haven't had justice, but I'm still seeking it. And Tanya, which is James niece who's been fighting for justice, For. For him. I can share this because some of those kids didn't get prosecuted because they were kids. Well, I talked to Tanya the other day and she says that they're looking to prosecute some of those, quote unquote, kids that didn't get prosecuted before for her uncle's murder. So I'm very happy for her that she can perhaps get the justice that she needs. And in my case, we're still fighting. And the truth of the matter is we had a found out from the detective on the case that the FBI got involved because there was an individual in a Rolls mall that was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. And the police ended up arresting him and he had the murder weapon on him that murdered my. My little brother. And this individual. This individual hasn't spoken about my brother's murder because he's apparently under investigation for something that may give him life. Now, as I mentioned in the book, there was three to four men that got out of a black SUV on June 24, and they shot multiple people that day, including my brother. And my brother was not the target. So there's other people out there in addition to the guy that the feds actually have that may have information. So we're still seeking out information. Three years later. Man, I won't stop fighting. That's the thing. This has been, you know, to my conversation with Dr. Drew in the book, I said, how do I get beyond the pain of this? And he said, I'm sorry to tell you, but you don't. The best thing you can do is to do something that's going to further your brother's legacy. And that's when I established the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. Because me working on something, me helping other people makes me feel empowered and not powerless over my brother's murder. I can only do my. My part. It's a small part. The book is part of it. It's a. It's a blueprint, I think, not just for victim families, but what to do. Because violent crime can impact any and. Of any and all of us. And unfortunately, it's impact my family. And the truth of the matter is, you know, I'm. I'm a Republican. I'm a conservative. I've been a Conservative for almost 25 years now. Now, a lot of my colleagues, our peers in the press, they have never met somebody who actually has had to deal with this. So this is kind of a new light for a lot of people because these are people that know me personally and have known me for years. And have been in the political circles and on the trail and been on television with. So for them, it's kind of like, wow, this happened to you. It just kind of opens everyone eyes because it can happen to literally any one of us if we don't do something about it now.
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Tudor Dixon
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Hey.
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Thanks for meeting me here on such short notice. This place isn't bugged, is it? Bugged? Wait, Jamie, what's going on? It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. Do you see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there?
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Huh.
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Ah.
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Tudor Dixon
And speaking of faith, I mean, God has blessed you with this ability to talk to people, with this, these connections on television. And I don't think that God causes tragedy, but I think he uses people who have gone through tragedy to, to shine a light where a light has not been shown. And this is, this is darkness. All of these situations, every story that you describe in your book, you are bringing light to a darkness in a way only God blessed you to be able to do that. And that I think, and you know that, that to know God and to be able to share that is. Is half the battle.
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Gianno Caldwell
I absolutely love what you just said, and you are absolutely so spot on with what you just said. And I even mentioned in the book how my grandmother was talking about my brother's murder as if God caused it or somehow. And I absolutely disagree with that. And if you have read that part, I push back on it. She can have her own feelings on that. But God absolutely is using this tragedy for the betterment of all. That's so spot on. A lot of people don't get that. A lot of people say, you know, as they never experienced it and they're trying to be helpful and they're trying to say something that's going to relieve it and say God is. Took him away or God, you know, he made this happen. Whether God needed him in heaven. When I believe it was Satanist stole him 100%, it wasn't God. But now God has an opportunity to speak through me, to make his life, his legacy. Christian. My baby brother mean something much greater than what he could have ever imagined in that sense, that his life would mean saving other people's lives. And if that is what it is, I'm honored to be a voice in that fight. Because we need to ensure that everyone can live in safety and security. And as an elected official, that is the number one consideration you should have, is making sure, sure that people feel safe. We need to be out enjoying our lives. We need to have an America that's thriving, that's prosperous, that we can deal with these issues, these very real issues that plague our country and have been plaguing our country for years. But we do something about it. Not just Talk about it.
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Tudor Dixon
Actually, yeah, God. God doesn't bring darkness. Sin brings darkness. Sin took him away. And God will help you to glorify him and glorify his name and bring people to Jesus through this. And that is, that. That is the way that. I think that is the way so many Christians heal, is to take their journey and share it with the rest of the world. And you have this microphone that no one else has. It is a. It is just so amazing. And I do. I. I look at it this way. When I look at the bad things that have happened through my life, I'm like, okay, I have been prepared for this. And it wasn't that God expected that to happen. Like, when I got cancer, do I think that God gave me. But in. In my journey since he has given me so much power to talk to other cancer survivors. And he said, okay, you have a gift. You can speak. I will. I will help you through this journey. And I think that you have that same gift. You're able to talk to people. So I want people to go get this book. I want them to share in what you've been able to bring to light and. And bring a light to these areas as well. So this book, it is called the Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis. Where can they get. How do they join in your journey to bring light to these communities?
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Gianno Caldwell
Well, thank you again for having me. You can get it on Amazon, Walmart, Target, wherever your books are sold, please follow us. Connect with us@caldwellinstitute.org as we fight back against jurisdictors funded progressive prosecutors. I call them political prosecutors. We're additionally expanding out to mirror races and gubernatorial. We have a foundation, the Caldwell foundation for public safety@caldwellsafety.org and certainly follow me on social media, Instagram, Twitter, FacebookianoCaldwell and G I A N N O Caldwell. C A L D W E L L. Thank you so, so much for having me. This has been such a refreshing conversation and to hear that you've dug into the book and recalling some of these stories. I really, really appreciate you really taking a sincere interest in what I've done.
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Tudor Dixon
It. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I'm telling you, it's kind of. It's people. A lot of times people write books and you kind of have to suffer through them, to be honest. But this is not that. I mean, you get in and it's like, wow, these are. These are the stories you hear on the news that you don't get the backstory to and that you can quickly move on from until you really go, okay, this is America. Because we think of America as the white picket fence too often and this is America. This is America too, and we need to hear about it. And you are shining a light. So thank you. Gianno Caldwell, thank you so much for being on today.
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Gianno Caldwell
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Thank you. And thank you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, for this episode and others, go to tutordixonpodcast.com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And you can always watch it on Rumble or YouTube @Tutor Dixon. Thank you so much and have a blessed day.
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, hey.
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Gianno Caldwell
Hey.
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Tudor Dixon
Thanks for meeting me here. It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. Do you see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there? That's all I paid for it.
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