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Lee Greenwood
Job Creators Network Freedom Fighters Summit, and we found Lee Greenwood out here just.
Unknown Host
Wandering around in the hall.
Lee Greenwood
We just grabbed him and brought him over. But I mean, this is really exciting for me because we've. Your song has inspired an entire generation of people to get involved in politics and follow this president. And I really do. I mean that from the standpoint of that starts playing and no matter where I am, everybody's singing it. What does that mean to you?
Unknown Host
Let me just go back to the beginning of me writing God bless the USA was in 1983. So before politics, I mean, it was the song that I wrote for America because of the love of my love of the country. And I'm a farmer from California. You know, I was a drum major from a high school marching band. And there was a lot of things that added up in my head to wanting to do that. But when my career started in Nashville, Tennessee, as a country artist, my background, which is rhythm and blues and jazz and rock, I was raised in the Beatle area during the Vietnam War. There was a lot of things in my head that kind of said, I really love being in a country that's free and we can vote freely for who we want to be president and our officials who tell us what's best for us as a people. And I guess when I got to Nashville, there was a moment or two where I just didn't have any time but to just tour. And I did that for 300 days a year for the first three years.
Lee Greenwood
Wow.
Unknown Host
And after five and six albums, I had an inspiration one night to just write the song Which I've been wanting to write for my entire life.
Lee Greenwood
So once usa, after seeing the entire country, then from a tour bus.
Unknown Host
Yeah, because being born in California, 20 years in Nevada. I mean, I was in the casinos in Nevada for 20 years, performing there, and all kinds of shows, main room, lounges. I even dealt cards into casinos for a while, just kind of, you know, keep the bills being paid. But I never really toured the entire country. So from my point of view, when I say Washington, that means I'm from the west coast, the East Coast. Say Washington. Took me a while, because now I live in the south, and I say y' all. So. So, yes, things changed when I started touring the whole country, and. And I got a better perspective of if. If I may put it this way, from Seattle to Miami or New York to Los Angeles to Virginia to Frisco, and. And you kind of see things differently. And yet, when I. When I was perceiving, moving from the west coast to the South, I didn't really envision that the people would be similar, but they are. And. And a different culture in New York and Houston. Sure. But when you talk about patriotism, there's nowhere more patriot than the people in New York City or in Dallas, Texas, or San Jose, California, or Virginia. I mean, I found it to be very true no matter where you go. And so as my song began to resonate with everyone, saying unity is what's important, then it started resonating, of course, with the politics, politicians.
Lee Greenwood
What year was that then?
Unknown Host
It would have been during the Reagan era, because I wrote the song in 1983. I was at the RNC only by choice for Ronald Reagan, and I did a. And the reason I ended up there is because I did a command performance at the White House for the Reagan and Bush administration. And that's when I met 41, who became a very close friend until the time of his passing. And. And then, of course, it just kind of rolled over, you know, to the next conservative. I found out who I was at that point, because then I realized I am a conservative. I wasn't probably as a youngster. I mean, I have to admit, I was, like, you know, wild in life and having a great time with life, but I became more of a conservative as I moved along. And so now my wife Kim and I, who have been married 33 years, and she's a Southerner from Tennessee and was a former Miss Tennessee, usa, and I married into a very beautiful Christian family. And so we've come even more entrenched, I think, in the Conservative values of what makes this country move along. That's awesome. With this guy.
Lee Greenwood
So how did that happen? I mean, when did he come to you? Because this is like, people see this as his song now, and this is his walkout song. Right.
Unknown Host
If you look at it from my perspective, when I worked with the Bush campaign, both Bush presidents father and son. And then I recorded an album in 1992 after I married my wife, Kim, who was a Miss Tennessee USA and worked with Donald Trump for 21 years as a director for three states in the South, Mississippi, Tennessee and Georgia. Naturally, it would be rubbing elbows with Donald Trump as the owner of Miss Universe for a long time. So we knew him long before. But. But there was none of the, Are you going to run for president? Could you use my song? There was none of that. That would come much later. But during that period of time in between presidents, I recorded American Patriot, which is all of American songs, which. America, the beautiful, God bless America, this land is your land, even the Battle Hymn of the Republic, which at one time I was working the Hilton Hotel in Vegas. Elvis was in the main room, and I used to go watch him sing the trilogy. And I went, that's Southern Americanism. And I thought, if I ever get my career, I'm going to actually sing the trilogy to close my show. I knew it very well, but it was just not to be, because Tim and I were married in 92, the same year that I released the album. And then four, five, six years, you know, prior to that, I'd already realized that I have to have my own anthem. And when I wrote it, it wasn't for politics. Of course, you know that.
Lee Greenwood
Right?
Unknown Host
And it still is. And of course, after our great president, President Trump, leaves office, it'll once again be the focus of what we do, and that's building homes from wounded warriors. And over 15 years, we built 220 homes throughout the South. And we're going to spread to the rest of the country thanks to people like Johnny Morris from Bass Pro and Lennar Holmes and a few others. Charity called Helping a Hero. We also worked for tunnels to towers in New York, St. Jude's in Memphis, and things that we cherish and we support.
Lee Greenwood
But so, and. And does that come from your time watching everyone coming back from Vietnam? Like, what inspired that? Because I saw you at one of your events, I went to one of your events where you bring up the wounded warriors on stage and. And you present them with a home.
Unknown Host
Yeah. That's a very special time.
Lee Greenwood
Yeah.
Unknown Host
No, to answer your question, I. I just love the pageantry, I guess, of marching the military and its discipline. We recently sang for the opening of the Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington, Texas, which is supported by 43. And the land given by Jerry Jones that owns the Dallas Cowboys is right next to Cowboy Stadium. So if you ever want to go see something that represents American patriotism at its root, and that's those who are awarded the Medal of Honor for, for valor and for doing things above and beyond what they possibly would have expect of a soldier. So when we were there, of course, recognizing a lot of those people are my friends who I've known for a long time. And, and that's the reason, I guess, from the very beginning, when I was drum major from my high school marching band and I saw, you know, the military marching right alongside of me, and we played USO shows for like 15 or 20 years as well. Just, it's just, I think from my, from my point as a role model in music, I think I have some kind of a responsibility to make sure people know what the basic of patriotism is. You can't imagine a 6 year old who will send me a video. Their parents will probably send me the video of them standing, waving the flag and singing God bless you with her tiny little sweet voice. That's where patriotism starts. But you can never forget that it's the military that pays the price. We all enjoy this here, right? There's some soldier somewhere who is in danger and may get wounded or may get killed because of his dedication to his sacrifice.
Lee Greenwood
We were in Washington last week and we were taking the eighth grade class. And my daughter, I took a picture of her in front of the Korean War Memorial where it says, freedom is not free. And I said to her, do you know what that means? And she didn't know what it meant.
Unknown Host
Well, of course not.
Lee Greenwood
And that. And I was like, this is the biggest beauty of how we've honored people and, and that you have those open conversations and what you do, it allows us to talk to our kids about what that starting that patriotism early and what that actually means. You told me your son is about to graduate from college. So what do your kids think about this?
Unknown Host
Well, Dalton's 30 and now married. He was valedictorian of his high school in Franklin, Tennessee, and we let him go to the college of his choice. He went to an Ivy League W and L in Virginia. And I got a biochemistry degree with undergrad, which is. I didn't know what undergrad meant. I thought when you graduated, you Graduated. It's like less of a graduation. And then. So then he went on to Vanderbilt and got a PhD in cancer research and immunology. So he's a biotech analyst. And. And he's been working in Chicago recently and with his wife. And our younger boy is 26. He was, like, very smart. He had a perfect science score in high school, but wasn't valedictorian. But he was a Chancellor Scholar for TCU in Fort Worth, Texas, for four years, changed from theater major to music major, and now he's finishing his master's in music production and engineering at the University of Miami, and he graduates next week. So he will be coming back to Nashville and starting his career parallel to mine. I hate it when people say, oh, he's walking in your shoes. He's doing what you do. No, hardly. Parker will be very different. He's great singer and piano player and all, but he. And he wants to produce, he wants to be artistic and. And so if anybody wants to look at his YouTube, it's Parker Greenwood. And he's got five songs for his thesis in college, which is. Would be his final project that he wrote, produced, sang, and did all the songs. So that's kind of fun.
Lee Greenwood
That is. So do they do any of these political events with you, or do they stay out of that?
Unknown Host
They've had the opportunity, yes, to be at many of the events. And I don't expect a lot from them in that regard. I don't know what. I don't even ask them what politics that they are in. I mean, we, you know, we've never.
Lee Greenwood
That's not even an issue.
Unknown Host
No, we've never influenced our children to. To do it. Because I was liberal when I was beginning, I. I would imagine they probably are. They both went to college, and Dalton's wife went to college. So I think that they probably have more of a liberal look at the. At their. Their world, because they don't really have a lot to protect yet. And I think that's the key, is once we become mature enough to know that we have something to protect, you suddenly realize what freedom means and how much you have to devote to it and then what you want to get from it. And I think that what's. That's what makes it conservative.
Lee Greenwood
And that's. That is a really good point. If you have something to protect, it changes your mind. Even when we're in there today talking about debt and all of this, and why does this affect. And why not just keep taxation? It's interesting because you do have a different perspective when you have your children.
Unknown Host
Absolutely.
Lee Greenwood
And you, and you go, well, I don't want them to end up with this. And it is funny because that is a universal feeling. I don't want to leave something bad for my kids.
Unknown Host
And I will say this, both, both of our sons, Alton and Parker, and my wife and I, we're all very tight. Kim and I have been married 33 years and we understand what our commitment to them is. But now as adults, we let them start making more decisions on their own. And, and we love the fact that they will do that and not necessarily mirror who we are or what we are. But I'm very confident that as they watch what I do, they don't, even if they didn't think like I did, they certainly don't go against what I believe in. I mean, they don't, we don't have arguments about that. And, and, and, but they endorse, you know, my lifestyle. They, they endorse what I do for the country, if not even for the president or for the Congress, because that's a fluctuating thing and that's a lot of work.
Lee Greenwood
I mean, you were talking to me about your travel schedule. It's a massive amount. I'll just end on this. Do you think that continues? Do you see the, in the, in the foreseeable future, do you think you just continue traveling for the Wounded warriors for the president office?
Unknown Host
Well, absolutely. I will say this too, that because of my reappointment by President Trump to the, as a trustee to the Kennedy Center, I keep trying to being pushed away. I keep pushing away from Washington D.C. and it keeps dragging me back. You know, President Bush, 43 nominated, elected me to be part of the NEA. So I was the National Endowment of the Arts council for like 12 years. It's a six year appointment. But the further administration is Democratic or Republican. Didn't replace me. I think maybe it's hard to replace America's patriot, but. Yeah, but finally when it got to the Biden administration, he was like, he just kind of waved his hand and we all went away. But, but thanks to President Trump, I'm back in Washington D.C. now at the Kennedy center and, and proudly to serve at one of the premier places in the United States for performance. I'm so excited to be there.
Lee Greenwood
Well, we are honored that you were here today. We're honored that you do what you do. And I just want to say thank you. I think on behalf of almost all Americans, we appreciate you.
Unknown Host
Well, we love what you do and I'll enjoy performing tonight for this, this group who embraces freedom like we should.
Lee Greenwood
That's right. And that I think that is the key. We're here at the Job Creators Network Summit. It has been an amazing day. Great people. Lee Greenwood, thank you so much for being on the podcast and you're so welcome.
Tutor Dixon
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Release Date: May 10, 2025
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Lee Greenwood
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show by iHeartPodcasts
[03:43]
Tudor Dixon welcomes Lee Greenwood to the podcast, expressing excitement over Greenwood’s presence at the Job Creators Network Freedom Fighters Summit. Dixon highlights the profound impact of Greenwood’s iconic song, "God Bless the USA," noting its role in inspiring a generation to engage in politics and support the presidency.
Notable Quote:
Lee Greenwood states, "Your song has inspired an entire generation of people to get involved in politics and follow this president." [03:51]
[04:11] - [05:12]
Greenwood delves into the genesis of "God Bless the USA," penned in 1983 out of his deep love for the country. He reflects on his formative years as a farmer in California, a drum major in his high school marching band, and his diverse musical background encompassing rhythm and blues, jazz, and rock. These experiences culminated in his move to Nashville, Tennessee, where he tirelessly toured for 300 days a year during his early career.
Notable Quote:
Greenwood shares, "I really love being in a country that's free and we can vote freely for who we want to be president and our officials who tell us what's best for us as a people." [04:50]
[05:04] - [06:46]
Upon relocating to Nashville, Greenwood broadened his musical perspective, touring extensively across the United States—from Seattle to Miami, New York to Los Angeles, and Virginia to Frisco. This national exposure reshaped his understanding of American patriotism, revealing a unifying thread of love for the country regardless of regional cultural differences.
Notable Quote:
Greenwood remarks, "When I say Washington, that means I'm from the west coast, the East Coast... We know that patriotism is present everywhere." [06:00]
[06:46] - [08:00]
Greenwood discusses his relationship with political figures, highlighting his performances at the White House for President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush. These experiences solidified his conservative beliefs, a transformation from his earlier, more liberal stance. He emphasizes his commitment to conservative values through his long-term marriage to Kim, a former Miss Tennessee USA from a Christian family, and his philanthropic efforts supporting veterans and charitable organizations.
Notable Quote:
He candidly states, "I became more of a conservative as I moved along... We've built 220 homes throughout the South thanks to people like Johnny Morris from Bass Pro and Lennar Holmes." [07:20]
[09:17] - [10:17]
Greenwood elaborates on his dedication to supporting wounded warriors and veterans. Over 15 years, he and his wife have constructed 220 homes for veterans in the South, with plans to expand nationwide. Additionally, Greenwood highlights their involvement with organizations like Helping a Hero and Tunnels to Towers, underscoring his belief in giving back to those who have sacrificed for the country.
Notable Quote:
Greenwood passionately shares, "You can't imagine a 6-year-old who will send me a video... That's where patriotism starts." [10:00]
[11:53] - [14:13]
The conversation shifts to the importance of instilling patriotism in children. Greenwood recounts a visit to the Korean War Memorial with his daughter, emphasizing the significance of understanding sacrifices made for freedom. He discusses his sons' achievements and diverse paths, illustrating how patriotism can coexist with personal ambitions and differing perspectives.
Notable Quote:
Greenwood reflects, "Freedom is not free... That's the biggest beauty of how we've honored people and, and that you have those open conversations." [11:53]
[14:13] - [15:52]
Greenwood talks about his adult children, Dalton and Parker, highlighting their academic and professional successes. Although they have opportunities to engage in political events, Greenwood respects their independence and acknowledges that their views may differ from his own. He underscores the importance of protecting freedoms and how personal responsibilities can shift political perspectives.
Notable Quote:
He observes, "I think that what's makes it conservative is once we become mature enough to know that we have something to protect, you suddenly realize what freedom means." [14:43]
[15:52] - [17:23]
Greenwood shares his ongoing commitment to philanthropy and the arts. Appointed as a trustee to the Kennedy Center by President Trump, he remains dedicated to supporting American patriotism and cultural institutions despite political fluctuations. He expresses enthusiasm for continuing his philanthropic work and performing for audiences that embrace freedom and patriotism.
Notable Quote:
Greenwood affirms, "I'm so excited to be there [at the Kennedy Center] and proudly to serve at one of the premier places in the United States for performance." [16:55]
[17:04] - [17:39]
Tudor Dixon concludes the episode by expressing gratitude to Lee Greenwood for his contributions to American culture and patriotism. Greenwood reciprocates the appreciation, looking forward to future performances and continued support for freedom-loving communities.
This comprehensive summary encapsulates Lee Greenwood’s journey, his unwavering patriotism, philanthropic efforts, and the legacy he continues to build through his music and charitable work. The discussion provides valuable insights into how personal experiences and values shape one’s contributions to society and the enduring spirit of American freedom.