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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Inside the FBI: Nicole Parker on Politics, Faith, and Integrity in Law Enforcement
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. Today we are going to talk all things FBI. And I know a lot of you started to question what was going on with the FBI during the Biden administration. It seemed like it had been politicized and we were questioning are we seeing this or is this just like there's just a few bad actors? Well, today we get to kind of dive deep into that because we have Nicole Parker with us. She is a former F special agent. She's now a contributor for Fox News Media. And she's out with a brand new book and it happens to be called the two FBI's the brave bravery and Betrayal I Saw in My Time at the Bureau. It's coming out on November 11th. Thank you so much for joining me today.
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Nicole Parker
It is my pleasure. Tudor. I am excited to talk to you about the FBI. I think it's something that, you know, a lot of Americans don't know what it's like to be on the inside. And so I felt like it was important to share this message.
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Tudor Dixon
And absolutely, as I was reading through it, that's exactly what I was thinking. I'm like, these are stories I don't know. But I mean, even the way you start out, I have to say the book is very well written. The way you start out with 9 11. And that moment, it's not just. To me, it was beautiful because it wasn't just this nonfiction story. It was this story of faith woven throughout. And that was very powerful for me because I think oftentimes when we're in those crisis situations, we say, what would we do? And you immediately start singing. I loved that. As you are in the midst of 9 11, you're in the World Trade Center. You're. You'd just gone to the. We had gone from World Trade center one to another building and, and you start, you see all the chaos that's going on. You said you had images that were burned into your head that day that you will never forget. But you start singing a song to the Lord, which I think is in incredible and beautiful.
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Nicole Parker
Right? So, you know, I could not have written this book without my faith because frankly, my faith and my trust in God and in Jesus Christ, that is the foundation of who I am. And yeah, at the age of 23 years old, I am. I'm originally from Texas and I happen to be living in New York City at the time working for Merrill Lynch. I was actually at the World Financial Center. I had gone through the World Trade center that morning on my commute. You know, just an everyday commute. And the morning changed very drastically at around 8:46am and it's, it's hard to even. I'll be honest, I don't speak about it a whole lot because it's, it's, it's difficult. And I remember after 911 occurred, Merrill lynch actually required us to have group therapy sessions. They had a therapist come in and I'll never forget, they said, this is something that you will deal with for the rest of your life. And so to open up my heart and my soul and speak about it on a public platform. In my book, it took a lot of strength and courage for me to do. And so you're exactly right. I talk about leaving my building after the second tower was hit and realizing that we were under attack. And there was a song that I learned at the age of 3 years old at church, and it's called I am a Child of God. And I just remember being so fearful and terrified of what was going on. And tutor, when you have nowhere to turn and there's just absolute chaos and pandemonium, and you know that you are witnessing evil, there's something. The most comforting place that we can turn to is to God. And so I did. I started to recite the lyrics to that song in my heart and my soul. And it did. It. It brought me a sense of, I don't know what's happening right now or why this is happening, but God knows you and he loves you and you're going to be okay. And it was. It was that moment in that elevator, getting out of my building that I decided, look, if I get out of here one day, I will stand as a witness of God and of Jesus Christ and I will serve my country. I don't know how, but I want to help and make lives better for those. You know, if I make it out today, there's a reason, and I need to use it to benefit my nation.
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Tudor Dixon
Honestly, that was a moment for. As I was reading that, I was thinking of all the moms who. And all the dads who spent that time in nursery and Sunday school with kids, teaching those songs and teaching scripture. And we've been told so many times that in a moment, even if your child gets lost along the way, or one of the children that you're teaching now gets lost along the way, God has a way of bringing these words to you when you need them that. Recall that scripture, that song that pulls you back to him. And in that moment, you are just like, it's just you and God. And that, to me, was so powerful because having been the mom that's been in Sunday school and teaching, I was like, okay, all right, God, here's a message right here at the very beginning of this book. Like, keep doing what you're doing. And I thought that was so inspirational for this moment where people are going, where are we with faith? And how is faith protecting our kids?
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Nicole Parker
And. And you're exactly right. Those moments do matter. And again, I learned this when I was 3, and I never forgot it. And those are moments that when you, like, I Said, you have nowhere else to turn. You turn to God. You turn to what you know, what your foundational core is. And for those that are out there, I, too am very active in my faith. And there's been a period of time where I oversaw all of the children ages 3 to 11. And I have never forgotten that as well, because I explained to them, look for myself when I was in my darkest moment, this is where I turned. And so, you know, sometimes as a parent or a Sunday school teacher, you think, does this really matter? And I'm here to reassure you as a witness, it does matter. And it was a place that I was able to turn for peace. And so keep doing what you're doing, because your children do listen. You may not think that they're listening or paying attention, but I can tell you I was an active body child. I was crazy and wild, but I never forgot that song.
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Tudor Dixon
So in that moment, you make a promise.
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Nicole Parker
Did.
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Tudor Dixon
Did you think that promise was the FBI?
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Nicole Parker
Absolutely not.
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Tudor Dixon
How did that happen? How do you get from there and Merrill lynch to you? I mean, you are like. Not to. I don't know how othered out to say it, but you are like, really badass. I was reading this book. I'm like, she just jumps out of a vehicle after she gets slammed by a car and chases a bad guy down. And, like, this car slams right into you. And you're like, I looked at my arms and my hands to see if I was injured, and then I got up and just chased the guy down. I'm like, this woman is amazing.
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Nicole Parker
Well, again, sometimes you don't have a choice. And that's the other theme of my book and theme of my life. You know, sometimes you find yourself in situations and you're like, look, what am I going to do? Am I going to cater to this? And you know, what I just went through, or am I going to stand strong and keep going? And I think that's a very powerful message in life. But, you know, you asked about kind of my path, and I have to tell you that maybe your life has turned out the way that you planned it. Mine certainly has not. And I think that that's a message that probably will penetrate into people's souls because I think a lot of people had a certain, you know, picture for how their life was going to be. And then God has a different plan for you. And. And they always say, don't make plans because God's gonna laugh at you. Like, I envision myself, I come from a very large family, you know, I'm gonna go to college. I'm gonna get married. I'm gonna have a beautiful, large family like my mom. And, you know, I probably won't have a real career. I'll probably, you know, do what I need to do to support my family. But I'm gonna watch over my kids. To this day, I have never been married. I do not have children. And so I'm not saying my life is any less than what it could have been. But what I am saying is that sometimes you don't get what you want or plan for. But again, it comes back to faith. God knows what he's doing. He knows where he needs you. And if you are willing to be an instrument in his hands, he is going to use you. And so I did. I went through. I worked at Merrill Lynch. I ended up going and working at the bank of America securities. You know, I got a beautiful, big promotion. But was I looking for it? No. And. But. But it came to me, and I took it, and I did the best that I could, and I ran with it, and then I decided, you know, maybe I should move to the West Coast. I had a sister that was out in Orange County. So I went from New York, I went to Los Angeles. I worked for a hedge fund, a multibillion dollar hedge fund. And again, I worked very hard. But there was that inner part of me that said, you know, Nicole, what are you doing to keep that promise that you made on that elevator to God? Are you really making a contribution? And again, there's nothing wrong with working in finance. We need it to keep our economy going. I believe in free markets and capitalism and success and the American dream. But for me, I just didn't feel like I was doing exactly what I needed to do. And so, you know, I made a bold decision. And my dad sat me down one day. I was visiting Texas. And he said, you know, Nicole, this is not a knock on anyone that works for hedge funds. I have nothing against that. But he said, you know, there are reasons that a lot of people work there. Power, prestige, money. And frankly, you're not driven by any of those. So what are you doing? And I thought, you know, you're right. But I. But I knew I wanted to give back. I just wasn't sure how. And believe it or not, it was a friend from Wall Street. I went and visited New York City, and I met up with an old friend. And he said, you know, Nicole, have you ever thought about applying to the FBI? And I said, no, I have not. Like, that's Never crossed my mind. I do not come from a law enforcement family and I've always loved and respected law enforcement. But I didn't even really know a lot about the FBI. Frankly. I never watched the movies, the TV shows. It just wasn't what I was necessarily interested in. But I did know an FBI agent back in Los Angeles and he, he always had very cool stories, I'm not gonna lie. And I talk about it in the book. Like, I remember one time seeing his gun on his ankle holster at a party and I was like, no way. You have a gun underneath your jeans on your ankle. And I, I thought about it and I prayed about it and I thought, you know what, why not? Like, sure, I'll, I'll apply. Like, you know, the chances of getting in are pretty much zero. But I'm the type of person it doesn't hurt to try. And so I did. I went through the application process and believe it or not, seven, eight months later, I was on my way to Quantico.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
It'S interesting because as I'm listening to this, I see how that seed was planted on that day. I mean a terrible day on September 11th. God plants a seed and it's just showing that God is working through all things for good. So here he plants that seed. Your dad comes to you and gives you that nudge, that reminder which you know, the father sends the father. Earthly father. I think that's a beautiful vision right there to see that. And then you go to a friend just right after that and he says this is where you need to be. And you take that. I mean, it just. It's beautiful to me to watch how that. See that goes from a seed to growing into what really needed to happen. And then. And as you start the book, you start. I think the powerful story of the two young girls was a great place to start because I don't know that about the FBI. You know, we think of the FBI as getting the bad guys, but we don't think about the. The collateral damage that you're picking up and you're carrying through. And that in this case was children. I think about that. Mike, you know, even if God had you in that place for just those two children, maybe it's not about you. Maybe they were going to go on to do something great for. For the Lord. You know, I. Because I think about that in my own life, like when I've gone through these trials, was it for me or was I just a stepping stone for something else great to happen? You know? But you went in there and you fought for kids. That's the side of the FBI that we don't see.
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Nicole Parker
Right? And so look, I. In all humility, I. Again, God, if we are willing. Every day I wake up and I. And I pray, Heavenly Father, please help me to use me as an instrument in thy hands for good. What can I do today to help other people? Because I have been so blessed. Sorry. I've been so blessed by others, and I owe it. I owe it to others to pay back. Sorry. So that morning, yeah, it was. I. I remember I was complaining because I thought, why am I going on this operation that's an hour from my house? There's one right by my house, five minutes away. Why do I have to do this? You know, we always ask why? Shut your mouth and trust. And that's what I've learned to do in my life. Stop asking and start trusting. And. And it's. It's something that I've needed to learn. But I think on the broader spectrum, there really are two. FBI's tutor. And I'm not going to discount that. I think the book, it would be, you know, kind of what people would expect. You open the book, and I just start blasting James Comey. Okay. That does happen in the book, by the way. But I wait because I think it's important to have a foundation of. Of who I am and who others in FBI one are. It's not just a book about me. I represent so many thousands of other really good, solid FBI agents. And that's what this is about there are so many people that came to the FBI with true and pure motives like myself, to genuinely serve our country that we love. And so I think the distinction between FBI one agents, even support staff, analysts, employees who came to the FBI trying to serve to protect Americans, to uphold the Constitution in a fair and unbiased manner, and that's what we want to do. And then on the flip side, you have FBI too. And there's a very clear distinction. FBI too, I would see it all the time. It goes the full range, very egotistical, very self serving, pushing their own political and social agendas to get what they want. They will do anything at all cost to accomplish what they need to do, to take down individuals that they personally do not like. And that's not, that's not right. That's not the oath that I took. It doesn't matter where you stand on the political spectrum, you have to have the integrity to uphold the Constitution in a fair and unbiased manner. Lady justice must be blind and with time. That is not what I was seeing at the FBI. So I think it's important for Americans to know that there really are two FBIs and I have been one. I walked away from the agency because it was such a disaster under the Biden administration. Two years in, I'm like, you know what? This is not going to get any better. I am out. But to discount the good work of the fine men and women who are doing honest work, I just don't think that's fair. And I've been blessed with the opportunity to leave the FBI. Okay, yes, I left my pension on the table and frankly, I didn't come to the FBI for a pension. And I talk about that in the book. But why should someone who has come to the FBI and served with honor and they, some of them have, you know, five children, their wife doesn't work and what, so they have to all walk away from the FBI after they've worked so hard for 20 years and then some administration comes in and wrecks it. So I would always hear that complaint. Well, why, why, why are you the only one speaking up? Look, I can't speak on other people's behalfs. All I can tell you is that there are good people even to this day that are trying to hold the line at the FBI. And so that first story that we started with, it was actually my, my publisher, my editor who said, you know, because we were originally going to start with 9 11, and she's like, you know, I feel strongly that we should actually Start with a very positive story that might open people's minds from the beginning of what FBI one is all about. And so I appreciate that you, you know, mentioned that story. Did I save the day? No, I didn't. And there were a lot of people involved in that, you know, and people. I hope you'll read the book and, and understand what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go into the depths of this.
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Tudor Dixon
That's what, that's what I think is so important. You have to read the book because when you get to that story, you see God in such a pronounced way, you can't see it any other way. And that is also, like I said, the beauty of this book is that you aren't taking credit. You are always saying, look, there was a miracle here. There was something amazing here, like God was on this path. And even conversations that you ended up with an outcome that you didn't want, those conversations were at critical moments that changed your life. And I think that it's amazing as you take us through that we can see not only the change in the FBI, but your faith along the way. You talk about FBI1 and FBI2, and I want to make that clear to our audience. This is your terminology. There's not officially an FBI one and FBI two. This is what you've seen because you saw an institution that was sworn to protect America that seems to be compromised from within. I mean, you even quote Abraham Lincoln, a house divided against itself cannot stand. In the book. You are. I mean, that's a bold statement that there are two FBI's right now. And this, it sounds like the one is like rotting from the core.
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Nicole Parker
Well, and, and like I said, I, I can't tell the exact percentages. Right? People always ask me, okay, and again, FBI 1, FBI 2 is something. I have coined that phrase. I should trademark it probably because a lot of people at the FBI that I'm friends with now are like, oh, they're totally FBI too, or, oh, they're FBI one.
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Tudor Dixon
I mean, we know obviously how prevalent it is. I mean, that's, that's how obvious it is to people.
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Nicole Parker
They're so sad that it's so prevalent. But the percentages, people say. What percentage I would have said in the past, it was like, you know, maybe 30% FBI 2. Then I would say it up to like 50% FBI to. It could be surpassing 50% at this point. The saving grace that we have is that we have a new administration that's come in and I think they have been working Tirelessly. And I know that, you know, at the end of the book, I talk about. My goal is for there to be one FBI. FBI, one should be the only thing that exists. But as you mentioned, I, you know, it takes time and, And. And it there. I kind of talk about it as almost like an internal civil war, because when you're. Imagine this, you're working tirelessly, day and night, 24, 7. Sometimes literally, it felt like that. I'd say there were many times that I can remember not even sleeping. You know, I'd just go a couple days at least, maybe two and a half days, no sleep, three days. And again, doctors, first responders, they do this sort of thing all the time. I'm not trying to throw a pity party here, but I don't think people envision that that's what the FBI is doing. And frankly, I'll be honest, a lot of the FBI is not doing that. I worked in a very dynamic division. Being in FBI Miami. It was extremely busy. It was a complete adrenaline rush. A lot of times it's very, what we call it, running and gunning like we were going pretty much full throttle. I can't say that that's probably the same in smaller field offices where there's not as much activity. So again, to be fair, and I worked multiple mass shootings, I'd say a lot of things that I was exposed to. A lot of agents are never exposed to that in their entire career. They could work for 30 years as a special agent, and they don't see that sort of thing. So I think my experience is somewhat unique. But I also, again, I cannot discount how hard people work. So imagine that you're going to work, and this is a job where you've got to be on point every moment. Especially I was working on the South Florida Violent Crime Fugitive Task Force. I'm armed at all times. You can't ever have an off day. If you have an off day, you could die. Others around you could die. And so you've got to be on point all the time. So imagine you're working, you know, two days in a row, no sleep. You're. You're working with victims of human trafficking, whatever it might be. And then you go home and you turn on the news and all you see is how horrible the FBI is. And again, I have been on Fox News. I have blatantly blasted the FBI for things that they've done wrong. But I always make that clear distinction. There are people that are still trying to do what's right. And so I thought, you know, it would be fair for America to see from an insider's perspective that, yes, even internally tutor, I don't even trust the FBI. I don't trust FBI, too, and I even work there. Well, I don't blame Americans for not trusting the FBI, because I work there, and I don't trust the FBI either. And that's why I had to get out.
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Tudor Dixon
As I was reading, kind of the change, it seemed like where you felt like there was a change, it's, it was almost Orwellian. It's like, you know, the pandemic hits, and these people, it's almost like, put your mask on, comrade. You know, and they're, they're gonna, they're gonna come after you if you don't. But I thought the most striking thing was when you said, it was shocking to me to see these businesses being burned down in Minneapolis and FBI agents cheering it on instead of feeling they, they needed to rush in and save the. Whose businesses were being burned down. That seemed like a moment for you where you went, things are really different.
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Nicole Parker
I, I, it frustrated me to no end because again, I tune into the news. I like to know what's going on. And even as an FBI agent, I know a lot of things that are going on that's not on the news. But I watched cities burning to the ground for months. And I sat there on my couch, and I'm like, why am I not getting called by Director Wray? Why is there not an all hands on deck from the FBI that we should all be out there helping? We're just watching our country burn to the ground. But during the same time frame, Shortly thereafter, when January 6th occurs, all hands on deck. You know, we need people to volunteer. We need people to come to DC month after month after month, year after year. Why was there not the same enthusiasm and vigor for them burning our country to the ground during the summer of 2020, which lasted, I feel like, for months and months and months, but then January 6th comes around, and it's like, okay, we need everyone, all hands on deck. We need volunteers to come to WFO, which is the Washington field office in D.C. it was such a stark contrast to me to see how they reacted to different things. That was just one thing that happened at the FBI that was just so blatant. And I thought, this is so obvious what they're doing.
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah. It seems to me today that the political motive behind actions on, I mean, I would say on the Democrat side is there's, there's no shame in having A political motive. We had one of our representatives, and I can't remember who it was, came out yesterday and said, we believe that keeping the government shut down is the best possible situation for the midterms right now. And I thought, how can you say that about people's lives? Like, you are making a. Everything is a political calculation now. And we're seeing it. It's very frustrating for people like you who went into this for the right reasons to help people. And you see this blatant pol. Expression of political support for. For these, I guess, movements rather than for the American people. You talk about the FBI. You're talking about the differences between the FBI in 2020 and the FBI in. On January 6th in 2021. You talk about the FBI kneeling with BLM and they were called Neil Team 6 because they're not allowed to do that. And yet they were not reprimanded. In fact, they were rewarded for that.
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Nicole Parker
That was absolutely appalling. It was a defining moment. Again, for me, that was June 4th of 2020. They literally were tasked with guarding buildings and monuments in Washington, D.C. and there were several agents that were assigned to do this out of Washington. Okay. To. To see that on the national level go viral, that multiple individuals were kneeling to BLM protesters. And they, they claim that it was because they were in fear for their lives and they were scared. Tutor. It's. To me, it doesn't look very fearful when you're laughing, smiling, clapping, cheering. Nothing fearful about that. And then I knew other agents from WFO who were at buildings, you know, next door and in the immediate areas, they said, nicole, we weren't kneeling. We were not kneeling. So for them to make it seem like these rioters were coming at them and attacking them. No, they were willingly kneeling in their FBI ballistic vests. And that's. That's against protocol. That's not appropriate. We are not allowed to make social or political statements in our FBI gear while we are on duty. And to be kneeling and clapping and cheering and like you said, what made me so disgusted, okay, they should do that. And we're all like, oh, they're going to get fired. These people are going to get fired. They're going to get reprimanded. That's an embarrassment to our agency. That's not proper judgment at the FBI. You're supposed to have good judgment. Like you said, not. Not only did they not get fired, they were promoted. Many of them were promoted to positions that are highly competitive that people want, you know, a lot. Positions in foreign countries, I think One with promoted to a position in Australia, very, very highly sought after positions, you know, other managerial roles. And then also the FBI Agents association offered them $100 gift cards.
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Tudor Dixon
I just, I can't believe it.
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Nicole Parker
But gift card.
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Tudor Dixon
And, and for, for, you know, to me that is a very bold statement because $100 gift card doesn't have to happen. It was a very political move. And like I said, good job, comrade.
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Nicole Parker
And again, and looking from the outside and then, and then you're looking at agents like myself and people that I worked with who. And I don't know if we're going to talk about it here, but my best friend, the FBI is dead. Okay? She lost her life. She was shot in the head while executing a search warrant against a child predator. Okay. Do you think that there were gift cards for her, the squad and others that were there that day for the distress that they experienced? I mean, it's just like insulting, right?
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Tudor Dixon
What shocked me about that story is that they, they didn't pay for her funeral. Not, not only were there no gift cards, the FBI didn't pay for the funeral.
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Nicole Parker
I have to tell you, there were many breaking points for me and I appreciate you having read through it, that you can pick up on the points that were most appalling and abhorrent to me as well. When the FBI has all of this money for January 6th investigations. Because remember this is around the same time frame, January 6th investigations. The DEI programs were off the charts, okay? There were like 19 different clubs, programs and social groups and we were getting emails non stop about them. You don't have the decency to pay for the memorial service for these two agents. Okay? That to me is wrong. FBI, you find the money, you manage to find money for everything else. You can't find the money to pay honor to two FBI agents who were killed adversarially in the line of duty for the first time. We hadn't had adversarial deaths in 13 or 14 years. Okay? This is a big deal. And that was a very defining moment for me where I thought, okay, not only did this, this shouldn't have even happened in the first place. And again, I detail that very clearly in the book. I won't go into the details right now, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place, but it happened. And the way that you're handling it, they didn't even do an after action review. CHRISTOPHER RAIN no after action review. It was as if it never even happened. And I thought, why is this? You know, there were some little Meetings that were going on in different field offices around the country. FBI Miami, which is where I was. Where it occurred. No, after action Review. And I kept asking, when are we going to be told what happened? Shouldn't we be doing something to mitigate risk going forward? Should we understand the mistake? What led to this? That's when I said, you know what? It's time to go. And I waited patiently. I talk about it. I had made the decision, I'm going to leave. And then I went and talked to management, and they said, no, no, no, we think you're making an emotional decision. I gave them an additional 11 months. Things got worse. And I said, you know what? I'm out. And that was it. So it was. It was a culmination of things. But in the book, you see, it starts off again with my background, my faith. You know, what led me to the FBI? The training, the application process, because I think that's interesting to people. And then you kind of see, for me, the defining moment was Jim Comey on July 5th of 2016. That's when I first realized that the FBI was politically weaponized. Was back then. And then I kind of go through it. But as the book progresses, and especially at the very end, it's like, FBI 2, FBI 2, FBI 2. There really was nothing about FBI 1 I could even write at. At the end of the book. So you see it progress from FBI1. FBI2 starts creeping in, and then FBI2 takes over.
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Tudor Dixon
But. But you even see. You still see God's hand through that, because the conversations that you had with Laura just before she is killed in that shootout, just. Just hours before that, there was an understanding you weren't alone. She was. She was making the point. I thought it was very powerful that you were seeing inside the FBI, because we kind of felt like we were seeing this, but we were alone. And we were also not allowed to talk about it, was that you make a great. You made this great point that she said, you know, for the people who had broken windows and really destroyed parts of the Capitol on January 6, she said, I believe that they should face consequences for that, but I will not arrest someone for a political motive that was just outside that day, that had not done anything that day, and yet you guys were seeing that happening. And we were saying, this is happening. People were like, don't talk about it.
- [35:16]
Nicole Parker
Don't you say that it was happening. And not only did you feel like you couldn't talk about it, we internally don't talk about it. You. If you don't Agree with what they're doing. You now have a target on your back is how we all felt. And so that really was how it felt. I felt like every day that I went there, that I was in the twilight zone. Like, I was like, do I work at the FBI? Like, what is this? Like, this is so unrecognizable to me. And again, I think it's important for people to understand. I'm not, I'm not just talking about it from, oh, this is what I think was happening. I know it was happening because I lived it and I am an honest person and I speak the truth. And it happened and it was so disturbing. And it was almost like this internal struggle. Like, I don't agree with what's happening here. And I think a lot of people said, oh, you know, but I'm. And I did it myself. And I'm not faulting myself or anyone, but it's like, you know, I'm not really involved in that. Like, we're working real cases. Like, we just tried to, you know, turn away from it and just focus on FBI one work, but it became so overwhelming and so loud that it's like you couldn't even focus on your job anymore. And, and like, what's the point? We would go out to do interviews. People be like, I'm sorry, are you like Peter Struck and Lisa Page? Because I don't trust the FBI and they slam the door in our face. That's not how it used to be. It used to be that you showed up at someone's door, you show your gun and back or you don't show your gun, but your gun's there, your badge, you show your credential and they'd be like, oh, FBI, you know, and it was somewhat like a respectful thing at the end. It was like, FBI, whatever.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
This book is coming out on November 11th. We want people to read this because first of all, you'll go, okay, I wasn't crazy.
- [39:10]
Nicole Parker
No, you're not crazy.
- [39:11]
Tudor Dixon
But you get to see, to me, it's so much more valuable than that. There is that vindication that we know that there's something else going on, but also something that most of us will never see. Which is exactly what you just said. What it is on the inside. And not just the the bad moments, but the incredible things that our FBI does and the reason it should be respected and the reason we need the FBI to return to FBI 1. So it's called the 2 FB. The bravery and betrayal I Saw in My Time at the Bureau. Can you tell us like a little bit about where they can get it, how they can follow you, all the information there?
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Nicole Parker
Sure. So it's available on Amazon.com target.com walmart.com Barnes and Noble.com starting November 11th. You can purchase it in stores and you can follow me. I'm on Instagram and X at Nicole Parker usa.
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Tudor Dixon
Nicole Parker, you are an amazing woman. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for your story of faith. I mean, honestly, I think that, to me, was the most impactful because I want that for my kids every day. I want them to be focusing on God. And the way you tell the story is to constantly be looking to him and asking him and relying on him. And I think oftentimes we look at our FBI agents, we're like, oh, they're doing this all in their own power. It was so awesome to see that you were doing this with the Holy Spirit. That was amazing.
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Nicole Parker
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I. Without God, I am nothing. I am nothing. And with God, even in our darkest moments, we will survive. And I do believe there's a battle between good and evil. And I truly believe that in the end, good and God and Jesus win.
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Tudor Dixon
That is an amazing message. Thank you. Thank you so much. And thank you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. As always, for this episode, episode and others, go to tutordixonpodcast. Com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And you can watch it on YouTube and rumble at Tutor Dixon. And make sure you join us next time. Have a blessed day. This is an iHeart podcast.