The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and the Battle Shaping the Monarchy’s Future with Kinsey Schofield

Summary

The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and the Battle Shaping the Monarchy’s Future

Guest: Kinsey Schofield, Royal Reporter, Host of "Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered"
Host: Tudor Dixon
Date: December 1, 2025
Duration (content only): ~02:34–41:13

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Tudor Dixon sits down with royal commentator Kinsey Schofield to unpack the ongoing controversies surrounding Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and the British royal family. They explore the fallout from “Megxit,” debate the future of royal titles and the monarchy, and assess the human drama behind tabloid headlines. Schofield offers insider perspectives, historical context, and candid opinions, all delivered with an engaging, gossipy tone.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Meghan Markle: The American Princess and the Fallout from "Megxit"

• Dixon sets the tone – "It's just kind of going to be a, an entire gossip episode because we have Kinsey Schofield with us." [02:34]
• From Hallmark to the Palace: Schofield reminisces about initial optimism for Meghan:

  “A Hallmark actress turned actual princess. It's, you know, you couldn't even make it up... what an incredible opportunity. You are a hard working person and you get in front of a prince and he's smitten with you. And then it all went to Hades.” —Schofield [03:31]

• Their abrupt exit:

  “I was so disappointed to see them step down as working members of the British royal family. They could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly worked the charity circuits... but they immediately come over to the States and I think race bait in the midst of a really difficult time.” —Schofield [03:44–04:48]

• Cultural missteps:

  “In America we applaud winners... we don't want to celebrate victimhood. And I think that's a huge mistake they made right off the bat.” —Schofield [04:50]

2. Life at Frogmore Cottage and Meghan’s Contradictions

• Dixon notes Meghan’s discomfort with royal accommodations (Frogmore Cottage): “This is not good for me. I mean, could it have just been that? Really? Is that so horrible to live in a cottage, a royal cottage?” [05:46]
• Schofield’s firsthand perspective:

  “I could not believe that she left that life. It's fields and fields of horses running, beautiful flowers and trees.... If you are two people that claim to want privacy, how convenient that there is no one near you.” —Schofield [06:08]

• Public persona vs. reality: Dixon questions Meghan’s self-presentation: “If her whole Persona is, I have this, like, countryside living. She actually hated that.” [07:17]

3. The Disputed Titles and the Sandringham Agreement

• Schofield clarifies the state of Meghan and Harry’s titles and the future:

  “My sources do say that Prince William, once he becomes king, is going to strip them all. And it's less about vengeance and more about—it's easier to control the Royal Family brand…” —Schofield [08:14]

• Alleged violations: Meghan reportedly leverages her title for product endorsements, in breach of the agreed terms:

  “If you're on the cover of Harper's Bazaar shilling jam, how is that not a conflict with that agreement?... She signs it hrh. You know, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. Well, Jamie, in turn, posts it on Instagram... and they are, in turn promoting her products. So I see multiple violations of the Sandringham agreement.” —Schofield [08:51]

4. "Spare," Public Perception, and Family Dynamics

• Dixon on the impact of Harry’s memoir:

  “It seems very personal to us that we... somehow an American went over and destroyed what we had watched. We've watched these kids grow up.... How did he get convinced to write this tell all book?” —Dixon [10:00]

• Schofield suggests Harry’s motives were financial and emotional:

  “He says... that he was so strapped for cash because his father cut him off as a 40 year old man that he had to sign these deals with Spotify... Penguin, Random House.... he was looking for, for a quick payday. And I also think he was incredibly bitter that things didn't turn out the way that they wanted them to.” —Schofield [10:41]

• Popularity and privilege:

  “What we realize is Megan is so destructive and Megan is breaking this family apart during the holiday season.... The royal family said, you're not going to do half in, half out... it's not about us. It's about the institution in general... There was a real clash there.” —Schofield [12:00–12:54]

5. Brotherhood Lost: William and Harry

• Dixon mourns the rift:

  “We look at this family broken apart. These boys already lost their mom... Now William is by himself.... Was it true that they were very close as brothers?” [13:18]

• Schofield’s affirmation:

  “They were so close. And Harry tries to rewrite history a little bit in his book...” —Schofield [13:45] “William has protected Harry his entire life.... I think that the palace created Harry as a character.... We've seen a very weak man who's been led around by his wife, who is a perpetual victim and, you know, rarely is thankful for the position he's been given.” —Schofield [14:10]

6. The Diana Factor: Past Trauma, Present Parallels

• Diana’s enduring shadow:

  “If you watch the videos of her, she's very awkward, she's very depressed, and she's very much a victim. And he is very much like that.” —Dixon [18:10]
  “I truly believe Prince William inherited her greatest qualities.... With Harry, he's paranoid, angry, unrealistic.... It does feel like without considering the consequences... they've looked at [Diana’s] playbook.... Spare Is Diana Her True Story, written by Andrew Morton. But we now know Diana was the lead contributor to that book.” —Schofield [18:36–19:55]

• On Meghan’s "cosplaying" Diana:

  “She does this creepy thing where she dresses like her too.” —Dixon [21:24]
  “She absolutely does. But they don't consider what the consequences were. That Panorama interview destroyed Diana's relationship with Prince William.... Did Harry really write Spare thinking that everything would be fine? I think he did because, you know, he watched his mother do similar things.” —Schofield [21:27–21:55]

7. Men, Women, and Power in the Royal Family

• Dixon observes a theme:

  “There is a long standing, like... moronic men in the royal family situation. I mean, you have, or men that are led astray by women, too. I mean, look at Queen Elizabeth, the man who was meant to have the throne. Her uncle abdicated because of an American woman.” [21:55]

• Andrew’s fate post-disgrace:

  “He'll disappear to Sandringham. He'll live on one of the homes on the estate and we'll never hear or see from him again.... The best case scenario would be that Andrew would just up and disappear.” —Schofield [23:04]

8. Charles vs. William: Generational Styles

• Charles’ evolving image:

  “A post-cancer King Charles is a much different Charles than I think Americans are familiar with.... I met him three weeks ago and he was incredibly gentle and sweet and worried about what we were saying in the States.... It is hard to not associate him with the rejection and pain and devastation of the Diana divorce. But I do think that he's softened over the years and that the cancer has really affected his outlook on life.” —Schofield [25:27]

• On William’s priorities:

  “William wants to be home and be with his babies and prioritize his family.... Even when Prince Louis is acting out... you can tell that he's a loved little boy and he's a free spirit because he has the opportunity to be at home.” —Schofield [34:31]

• Work-life balance: Dixon: “Is it true that they are actually truly a close knit family? I read that he starts work at 10 in the morning and he's done by 4 so that he can spend time with the family.” [34:21]

9. The Future of Titles and Succession

• William and the next generation:

  “Princess Anne did not give her children titles.... Prince Andrew demanded that Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles.... William and Catherine... don't utilize the word spare about their children. They want to make sure that nobody feels unworthy.” —Schofield [32:49–33:14]

• Royals and privacy:

  “There's a viral video of a photographer following them when they're all on bicycles... William gets in his face and says, you're not gonna record my family. Get out of here. He's incredibly protective of his family....” —Schofield [37:36]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Meghan and Harry’s missed opportunity:

  “They could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly worked the charity circuits and made great... relationships... And then... it all went to Hades.” —Kinsey Schofield [03:31]

• On the rules of royalty:

  “The only reason they were able to keep certain perks like the title was because they told the Queen that we won't utilize them. We won't do anything that embarrasses the family. I mean, I could come up with a million things that they've done that have embarrassed the family since then.” —Schofield [09:26]

• On William as a father:

  “I've been in... I can't tell you how many times I've been so excited because I'm going to see William and he's had to cancel because something's come up at home... he wants to be. And even though I'm heartbroken, I understand and I really admire that.” —Schofield [35:03]

• On family trauma and privacy:

  “When Prince Harry started doing things that were very similar [to Diana],... for Meghan Markle to dress as Diana, pose as Diana and cosplay as Diana. For Prince William to have to see that in the press, that has to be very unsettling.” —Schofield [39:20]

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Important Timestamps

• Intro & setup: [02:34]
• Meghan’s fairytale gone wrong: [03:31–04:48]
• Frogmore, privacy, and contradictions: [05:46–07:22]
• Titles, Sandringham agreement breaches: [08:10–09:58]
• Harry’s book and motivations: [10:00–12:54]
• William & Harry’s broken bond: [13:18–15:23]
• Comparing Diana, William, Harry, Meghan: [18:10–21:55]
• Royal men and their undoings: [21:55–25:03]
• Charles, William, family style: [25:27–29:44]
• Charles & Diana, arranged marriage: [29:44–32:15]
• The future of royal titles: [32:15–34:21]
• William as a modern parent and family man: [34:21–36:25]
• William’s relationship with his father: [36:25–37:14]
• Family trauma’s impact on William: [37:14–39:49]
• Conclusions, Meghan’s return to media, and episode end: [39:49–41:13]

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Final Thoughts

The episode offers an accessible, informative, and distinctly opinionated look at the British royals’ ongoing dramas from an American perspective. Kinsey Schofield combines insider scoops with a sharp, gossipy edge, walking listeners through both the personal and institutional struggles that may define the monarchy’s future.

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For more royal gossip and analysis:
Find Kinsey Schofield on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform at "Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered." [41:16]

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[Tudor Dixon]

See mint mobile.com youm are listening to the Tudor Dixon podcast and today we are talking all things royal family. It's just kind of going to be a, an entire gossip episode because we have Kinsey Schofield with us. She's a royal reporter and the host of her own podcast, Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. Thank you so much for being here.

[Kinsey Schofield]

You know, I also think that it's a little bit of history too. It's not just true. You know, we're going to educate the people.

[Tudor Dixon]

No, I do, I want to get into some of the details with all of the stuff happening with the titles being lost and all that. I do want to get into what that all means for the whole, you know, prince and his family and. Or do we even call him Prince Andrew anymore? I don't know. But I want to get into all of that. But I think if we don't talk about Meghan first because Megan is every little American girl's dream gone.

[Kinsey Schofield]

She was completely wrong. Yeah, I know. A Hallmark actress turned actual princess. It's, you know, you couldn't even make it up. And I, you know, I don't know where you were on the spectrum, but I loved her and I could not, you know, I wanted to be her. I was like, wow, what an incredible opportunity. You are a hard working person and you get in front of, you know, a prince and he's smitten with you. And then it all went to Hades. I mean, I was so disappointed to see them step down as working members of the British royal family. And they could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly worked the charity circuits and made great, you know, established great relationships and connections and I don't know, 10, 20 years decided that they were going to control the narrative and tell all of these secrets. And Princess Diana survived the royal family for 16 years before the divorce and before really she started to tell her secrets. And when it came to Harry and Meghan, they immediately come over to the States and I think race bait in the midst of a really difficult time.

[Tudor Dixon]

So much that I culturally.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah, and, and I think that in America we applaud winners, we applaud self made people and we don't want to celebrate victimhood. And I think that that's a huge mistake that they made right off the bat.

[Tudor Dixon]

But we also have this. I mean, Americans have a soft spot for the royal family. Regardless of our split, there is still some romantic feelings about the royal family. We all watch the weddings. We were very. We loved Diana. We are all very involved in this. So we did. And I do think that there was a moment when we went, oh, my gosh, you could actually grow up to be a princess. This is like. I mean, there are literally movies on Netflix all the time about this, which apparently also has Meghan Markle stuff on it. That is clearly not this because she abandoned him. But what I understand, I just read this story, was that when they sent them to Frogmore Cottage, when they were like, this is where you're going to live, Megan kind of freaked out. Like, I'm not a rural person. I lived la. I want to live in the city. I'm not doing this. This is not good for me. I mean, could it have just been that? Really? Is that so horrible to live in a cottage, a royal cottage?

[Kinsey Schofield]

This summer, I got to see that area. I was taken, you know, back where I'm not supposed to be by someone that had permission to be there. I had permission to be there because I was a guest. And I could not believe that she left that life. It's fields and fields of horses running, beautiful flowers and trees. And it is an escape, and it is rural. But if you are two people that claim to want privacy, how convenient that there is no one near you. It's in the sweetest little town of Windsor. It's like this tiny village that would be. You would imagine a Disney movie would, you know, copy and paste, which seems.

[Tudor Dixon]

Like it would go along well with her show. With Love, Megan Holiday Celebration. She has this new. I just watched the trailer for With Love, Megan Holiday Celebration show on Netflix, and that was like, let me take you through my house, and let me take you through my yard. And I don't know if it's actually her yard or her house. Cause I think there was some scandal where she was like, this is how we live. And it's not. Because that seems to be who she is. But if her whole Persona is, I have this, like, countryside living. She actually hated that.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah. She. I mean, she is a contradiction in so many different ways. You know, there's the scene in the Netflix series where she dramatically curtsies and is kind of the vibe. Is that how silly that she has to curtsy to Queen Elizabeth. And she's very dramatic about it. And Harry's face is just absolutely miserable. But then she asks the house manager in New York to announce her as the Duchess of Sussex. As the Harper's Bazaar journalist enters the room, you know, she wants to be formally announced with her title.

[Tudor Dixon]

When was that?

[Kinsey Schofield]

That was when Harry and Meghan accepted their Humanitarians of the Year award. I believe that was in October. If it's not in October, it's in September of this year.

[Tudor Dixon]

Do they still have those titles? I mean, is she still considered that?

[Kinsey Schofield]

She is. I mean, I would say temporarily. I mean, I'm pretty confident, you know, and my sources do say that Prince William, once he becomes king, is going to strip them all. And it's less about vengeance and more about. It's easier to control the Royal Family brand if you don't have all of these people all over the world that are monetizing it or, you know, there's the cash for access scandals that we saw Andrew and Fergie experience and participate in, I should say. But she's not allowed, per the Sandringham agreement, which was the Megxit agreement, to monetize her title to. To. She's not allowed to utilize her proximity to the British Royal family to fatten her pockets. But, you know, if you're on the COVID of Harper's Bazaar shilling jam, how is that not a conflict with that agreement? So, you know, she sent Jamie Kern Lima a basket of goodies. And in. In that basket, she signs it hrh. You know, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. Well, Jamie, in turn, posts it on Instagram, influencer style, you know, marketing, digital marketing. And they are, in turn promoting her products. So I see multiple violations of the Sandringham agreement. And the only reason they were able to keep certain perks like the title was because they told the Queen that we won't utilize them. We won't do anything that embarrasses the family. I mean, I could come up with a million things that they've done that have embarrassed the family since then. Or, you know, Harry talking about William's baldness in his book, which was totally unnecessary.

[Tudor Dixon]

I mean, the whole book.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah.

[Tudor Dixon]

Todger, Todger, Let me. I'm curious about the book because I haven't read the book because I think it's one of those things where, I mean, I should read the book just so that I can talk about it. But it is. It seems very personal to us that we. And embarrassing to us that somehow an American went over and destroyed what we had watched. We've watched these kids grow up. We watch them go through horrible Tragedy. They, they feel like fixtures in our homes, you know, like we feel like we get to know them. How did she. I'm assuming it's her. How did he get convinced to write this tell all book? I mean, this is a you are not coming home, I'm done kind of.

[Kinsey Schofield]

I don't think he's that bright. I don't think he realized that. How could that be Prince Andrew? I mean, look at how I think he is that dumb. But he says, and this might have been a rare honest moment in the Oprah Winfrey sit down, that he was so strapped for cash because his father cut him off as a 40 year old man that he had to sign these deals with Spotify, he had to sign these deals with Netflix and you know, I include Penguin, Random House in that because it was around the same time that he signs the book deal. I do think that he was looking for, for a quick payday. And I also think he was incredibly bitter that things didn't turn out the way that they wanted them to. You know, I. They recently hinted at going back to Australia. So I've been looking back into their official royal engagements in Australia. And Tom Bauer, an incredible investigative author, writes that in 2018, when they went to Australia, they saw their popularity, you know, in a new light. And Diana was incredibly popular in Australia. So Meghan starts to compare herself to Princess Diana. And that's really when they decide that there's gonna be a shift and that they do not want to be, you know, they don't wanna have to walk behind Prince William and Catherine, Princess of Wales. They bring more to the table. And that's when they start to develop these lists of demands which ultimately, like, it's so funny that we're all watching this Christmas TR and preparing for this Christmas special when it's Christmas time when Meghan and Harry go off to Canada and start to plot this. Well, what they wanted to do was half in, half out. But what we realize is Megan is so destructive and Megan is breaking this family apart during the holiday season that she's now trying to hijack as her own. And you're like, no, actually during Christmas you're doing whatever the opposite is of, you know, everybody around the table snuggling with each other and loving on each other. But the royal family said, you're not going to do half in, half out. You're, you know, it doesn't matter how popular you are. It's not about us. It's about the institution in general. And we're not here to promote ourselves. We're here to promote great causes, great charities, other people that are making a difference in the world. And there was a real clash there. And, you know, I think that they thought that their popularity would shield them. I think that we even see that sometimes in. In their behavior here in the States.

[Tudor Dixon]

I don't understand why they are still considered popular. I find her abhorrent. I mean, I. I think that she destroyed an institution that we all love very much. We look at this family broken apart. These boys already lost their mom in such a tragic way. Now William is by himself. They were so. We. What we had seen was that they were very close. Was it true that they were very close as brothers?

[Kinsey Schofield]

They were. They were so close. And Harry tries to rewrite history a little bit in his book when he talks about how he felt like the third wheel and he didn't feel included. They went out of their way to include him. There's a really beautiful story about Harry coming back from Afghanistan. I believe it was Australian media that leaked where he was, that he was in a war zone. And it. You know, I don't know if Australia didn't get the memo, but, I mean, everybody was purposely, obviously not reporting this to protect him. And so he has to come back. He's completely defeated that he's been pulled, you know, from combat. And William is in the room as he's taking questions from journalists. And Harry's really mad at the journalists because he knows one of them leaked where he was, and it jeopardized his safety. And now he's home, and he can't do what he wants to do, which is fight. And William actually inserts himself and pulls Harry out of the interview because he can tell he's getting frustrated. You know, William has protected Harry his entire life. I will say I think that the palace created Harry as a character. I think that they did a great job in branding him as something that he's not. I don't think that he's this courageous, brave, strong, resilient individual, because that's not who we've seen in the last five years. We've seen a very weak man who's been led around by his wife, who is a perpetual victim and, you know, rarely is thankful for the position he's been given. I mean, he's America's favorite Nepo baby.

[Tudor Dixon]

That's what is, I think, the most shocking about what we've seen. Him coming here and writing spare and being the victim. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.

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[Tudor Dixon]

To be honest, like, when you go back when I was growing up watching Diana, I was amazed by her. She seemed like she had. It was like that it factor. People were drawn to her. She was able to go anywhere. She was very popular. But if you watch the videos of her, she's very awkward, she's very depressed, and she's very much a victim. And he is very much like that.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah. Shy, die. You know, she's like looking away.

[Tudor Dixon]

Yeah.

[Kinsey Schofield]

I mean, I think I truly believe that Prince William inherited her greatest qualities. He has a very fun sense of humor. The last time I was around him, up close and personal, I had been on Harry watch for two years. And I was so surprised at how animated and silly and fun Prince William was. It almost knocked me off my feet, really. He was so silly and had so much personality and was talking about how he couldn't take cats anywhere because she was always the last, you know, to. She was deep, deep, deep in the line talking to people, heavily involved in conversations. And he's like, we gotta get the ball rolling. And then he said his favorite emoji was the eggplant, which, you know, I'm sure you're keen to what we think that we associate the eggplant with. And so, I mean, I was really surprised at how sweet, fun and charismatic Prince William was. And I do attribute that to Princess D. And with Harry, he's paranoid, he's angry, he is unrealistic. He lives, you know, in a delusional fantasy world. And it does feel like without considering the consequences of everything that happened to Diana, they've looked at her playbook. I'm listening to Diana Rama right now, which is about the BBC's horrible deception and how they secured her Panorama interview. And ultimately, I mean, I'm confident in saying it led to her death because she was. They lie about people spying on her to secure the interview, like to ingratiate themselves. Diana, all these people. I have proof that these people are spying on you. This is Martin Bashir from the BBC. This, you know, Prince William has spoken out about how horrible this horribly. This affected his life, this. This deception. And so Diana fires her. The Royal Protection team that's been protecting her. And, you know, a few years later, she dies in a. In a Paris tunnel because she doesn't have Royal protection there, confirming that everything's okay. This scenario she's in is an appropriate scenario. And so I see a lot of Prince Harry copying some of her playbook. The Panorama interview that some say led to the death of Diana. That's the Oprah Winfrey interview. You know, Spare Is Diana Her True Story, written by Andrew Morton. But we now know Diana was the lead contributor to that book. And I think that they just do a lot of the same things Diana did. We even see it in Megan's cosplaying of her outfits.

[Tudor Dixon]

I was gonna say she does this creepy thing where she dresses like her too.

[Kinsey Schofield]

She absolutely does. But they don't consider what the consequences were. That Panorama interview destroyed Diana's relationship with Prince William. He was devastated by it. She was stripped multiple royal perks after that interview. You know, so to your point that Harry. Did Harry really write Spare thinking that everything would be fine? I think he did because, you know, he. He watched his mother do similar things.

[Tudor Dixon]

So there is a long standing, like. I feel like there's a long standing. I don't know how to say it. Moronic men in the royal family situation. I mean, you have. Or men that are led astray by women, too. I mean, look at Queen Elizabeth, the man who was meant to have the throne. Her uncle abdicated because of an American woman. So he gets to. And in his life, really, she was also a challenge and his life didn't end up so great. And then you've got Andrew. Andrew has always been a total disaster. And when you talked about William wanting to take away these royal titles, he's looking at some of the other. From what I understand, you'll know this better than me, but he's looking at some of these other countries that they've done this, where they've kind of limited the amount of royal titles you can have because you're essentially limiting scandal and you've had to take away the royal title. What happens to Andrew now? He's had his title stripped, he's had his privileges stripped. I don't know what that means, but is he just. Does he. Is he broke? What happens to him?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I mean, he's not broke. He has a significant amount of money and he. He had this thing called Pitch of the palace, where he would connect entrepreneurs with investors. And it's my understanding that there is a company, I believe, in Japan, that want to do something similar or just utilize his contacts. They'll pay him for his contacts. That was the last time I heard of any sort of business venture with Prince Andrew. What will he do now, for the royal family's sake? He'll disappear to Sandringham. He'll live on one of the homes on the estate and we'll never hear or see from him again, I'm under the impression that Fergie will write a book. I don't know what is left to say. And I also, you know, I think that we'll be promised a lot, but she won't deliver a lot because I don't think she wants to jeopardize the future for her daughters who King Charles does love Beatrice and Eugenie, the princesses who still have their titles. So, I mean, the best case scenario would be that Andrew would just up and disappear. And I always, like, feel obligated to say he says he's innocent of everything. It's a little odd that he would pay somebody £12 million that he never met or would allow his mother to cut that check. But it truly is in the court of public opinion, guilt by association. When it comes to some of those emails and when it comes to the photographs of him and Jeffrey Epstein walking around Central Park, I just think he needs to go away because people resent the sight of him. But like you said, he's not ever been known as a nice guy. He's not ever really been known as post Randy Andy. When he came back from the Falklands, you know, he developed a pretty bad reputation for being rude to staff, rude to people, and being an ungrateful, arrogant man.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, Charles sort of has a reputation for being a little bit arrogant or very arrogant and maybe not rude, but very arrogant and kind of like unaware of the people around him, which I've. I've heard that he is, you know, he's very demanding, he wants things a certain way. Like, he has a very different personality from his mother, from what I understand. And William is a little bit more like his grandmother. Is that true?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I think William, when it comes to wanting things his way is very much like his father, which is sometimes why they clash. I mean, a post cancer king. Charles is a much different Charles than I think Americans are familiar with. And we are, for some reason, we love Princess Diana over here. I mean, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. I love Diana. That's how I launched my royal career covering Diana. So I love Diana too. But I do think that we fixate on the Diana years of the King's life. And, and I mean, I met him three weeks ago and he was incredibly gentle and sweet and worried about what we were saying in the States. And I was like, don't worry, we love you. But I understand what you're saying. It is hard to not associate him with the rejection and pain and devastation of the Diana divorce. And in fixating on that, I think that it's harder to sympathize with him and think that he might be a softer character. But I do think that he's softened over the years and that the cancer has really affected his outlook on life. And part of the reason why I don't think he handled Prince Andrew as soon as he should have, or Andrew, I should say Mountbatten Windsor as soon as he should have, was because a, I've always heard that he promised Queen Elizabeth that he would take care of his brother, that she was worried about that. And B, he does not like drama. He does not like confrontation.

[Tudor Dixon]

Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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[Tudor Dixon]

If I have the story correct, he didn't really want to marry Diana. He would have gone. He, he really loved Camilla always, right?

[Kinsey Schofield]

He did love Camilla, but Camilla ran off and married Andrew Parker Bowles, who was a playboy. I mean, Camilla should have known that she was setting herself up for disappointment.

[Tudor Dixon]

Because why Was it because she couldn't marry him? Was there some rule or what was the story?

[Kinsey Schofield]

No, he, he went off, he went off to serve. I believe he was going to. Expected to be away three years and Andrew Parker Bowles was around. Andrew Parker Bowles, who also dated King Charles's sister, Princess Anne. And everybody was in love with Andrew Parker Bowles. And Andrew Parker Bowles looked at Camilla and Camilla was like, I'm going to secure that because he's so handsome and everybody's crazy about him. She, you know, her great, great, her great grandmother was King Charles's great great grandfather's mistress. So the reality was, what are the odds that you are going to get to marry that guy? When you have that kind of family history, it's a little incestuous feeling. And so I don't think she ever really saw herself as a legitimate option for him. You know, Diana had to prove that she was a virgin before she married King Charles. There were such severe expectations still at the time. And yeah, so King Charles, he'd seen Diana, I think three times before. The family had decided she would make a good bride. And Prince Philip had cornered him at one point. There's this rumor, I mean, they were headlines at the time that they assumed Diana was seen getting on a train with King Charles. And so there were all these overnight, which was a scandal. So there were all these headlines about was Diana the blonde on the train with King Charles at the time? And, and Prince Philip corners him knowing that it wasn't Diana on the train with him and says, you're ruining this girl's reputation. You know, you have to, you, you either pursue her and we lock this down or you let her go because she's going to be, you know, brand wise. I don't. Reputationally, we're damaging her reputation by allowing some of these headlines to exist. And so I do think that Prince Charles at the time felt pressure to marry her when his heart really wasn't into it.

[Tudor Dixon]

Interesting. So with the future of the royal family, with William looking at titles differently and knowing what happened with his own brother, some of the royals in other countries have decided not to bestow titles upon their own children and just, I guess, pass it on once they are of age. But what happens with his kids? Does he, do they all continue to keep their titles once he's king? Or does he say, well, I don't want the drama I had with my own brother?

[Kinsey Schofield]

Well, you know, Princess Anne did not give her children titles. Zara and Philip, they don't have titles. And Prince Andrew demanded that Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles. So Prince Edward's children don't utilize theirs. So I do think, yeah, it's because he's so sane. It's because he's so normal.

[Tudor Dixon]

No scandal. You just fall out of the public eye.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Exactly. So I think that it will be a case by case basis. Obviously they are preparing Prince George as the heir. You know, we just recently saw him at Royal Albert hall with his mother, attend a Remembrance Day event with his mother for veterans and he was there in replacement of his father who was late coming home from Rio for the Earthshot Prize. So I do think that it's obvious to us that they are quietly preparing Prince George, but I don't know what the expectations will be. I know that they specifically don't utilize the word spare about their children, which, you know, Harry complains about it, but that was Diana's doing. Diana would be like, I gave him the air and the spare, talking about how much she'd sacrificed for that relationship. And so I know that they don't like to do that to their own children. William and Catherine, they don't utilize that type of language because they want to make sure that nobody feels unworthy.

[Tudor Dixon]

Is it true that they are actually truly a close knit family? I read that he starts work at 10 in the morning and he's done by 4 so that he can spend time with the family.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah, it is true. And I feel bad for him because he's criticized a lot for it. Within the house, within the royal palaces, within the other households, because, you know, William and Catherine have their own household and King Charles and Queen Camilla have their own household. And it does irritate some of the courtiers that William wants to be home and be with his babies and prioritize his family. But. But I think just watching William's children versus watching William as a child, you can tell that his children are in a loving home with two parents that are completely committed. Even when Prince Louis is acting out and you're seeing the Princess of Wales try to settle him down, like, you're embarrassing us, which she never says. But when you see them interacting with each other and he's acting out, you can tell that he's a loved little boy and he's a free spirit because he has the opportunity to be at home. And, yeah, I do believe, you know, I've been in. I can't tell you how many times I've been so excited because I'm going to see William and he's had to cancel because something's come up at home and, you know, that's where he wants to be. And even though I'm heartbroken, I understand and I really admire that. Because if you do believe Diana, her true story, she does say that Charles spent a lot of time away from them. And even. And even in Harry's spare, he says something similar. I think it's great that those kids are around their mother and father so often. And also, I wish they'd give that family a break because, you know, William was incredibly traumatized at the thought of losing his wife so young and having to raise those children on his own. That was a horrible experience for them. And I think he's, you know, celebrating every day he has with her.

[Tudor Dixon]

Does he ever publicly talk about his relationship with his father?

[Kinsey Schofield]

He doesn't talk about their relationship, but he does quite often credit his father for his, you know, pursuits, his interests. We used to make fun of King Charles for talking to plants, and now everything he said environmentally is trendy today. And something that, you know, people with real credentials are saying we need to take seriously when it comes to that type of pursuit, when it comes to being an environmentalist or how we can leave the earth better than we found it. So he does talk a lot about how his father inspired some of his biggest royal initiatives, like the Earthshot Prize.

[Tudor Dixon]

You mentioned that Diana's interview affected her relationship with William. How has that affected him as a. A leader and as a family man and even his. I imagine that that's Kind of like going through that trauma all over again with his own brother.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah. It's my understanding that right before the Panorama interview, where Diana Sundays, there were three of us in this marriage, she admits to her affair, her affair with James Hewitt, who was the boys riding instructor. I mean, this was all very, like, oh, so salacious at the time. Also, it's contradicting so much work that the palace had put in to killing some of these stories on her behalf and on behalf of her children so they wouldn't be embarrassed by some of these things. It's my understanding that William's. The head of William's school found out about the interview and asked Diana to please come out and talk to William and warn him about it before it aired. And so she did and tried to make it out like it wasn't going to be that big of a deal. And I don't know how many people know this, but it's my understanding that William watched the interview and in his. In somebody in leadership's office at Eaton. And when they came back at the end, he was in tears. He was so worked up over it. I mean, it is humiliating. Your mom is airing the family's dirty laundry. And so how does it affect. You know, I do think that he goes out of his way to protect his family. There's a viral video of a photographer following them when they're all on bicycles, you know, out in the middle of nowhere, just riding bikes as a family. And William gets in his face and says, you're not gonna record my family. Get out of here. He's incredibly protective of his family and we rarely, rarely see those moments where people, photographers do violate the family's privacy, which I think is important to mention because Harry and Meghan act like that's why they had to flee the uk. But I think that it probably did feel like an unbelievable violation when Prince Harry started doing things that were very similar. And I think it's incredibly unfair for Meghan Markle to dress as Diana, pose as Diana and cosplay as Diana. For Prince William to have to see that in the press, that has to be very unsettling.

[Tudor Dixon]

Yeah, I think that's the thing that has haunted all of us, especially here in the United States, where we feel like, well, we created her and now she is altering their life so dramatically. And even the stories that came out when she. I forgot about the race baiting and how the curtsy. That was so humiliating. We watched someone just Harry completely humiliated by her. And that was a moment where I think we all went, oh, this is not a healthy relationship. This is not okay. And I think we've given him a lot of grace for the book, but he chose and he knew what he was doing. And I think that grace can only go so far, especially if you're the family. But I could talk to you about this forever. We didn't even get to her acting and going back to that and what that means for Harry, but what that.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Means, not a lot.

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[Kinsey Schofield]

Good luck, Megan.

[Tudor Dixon]

I mean, really, I, I don't know who watches her show as it. I'm like, who watches this to watch this? Yes, yes, absolutely. I don't know that. I guess they're getting paid for it and it seems like they'll do anything to get paid. So I, I feel like that's just the, the measure of whether or not we're watching Harry and Megan. Are they getting paid for it? So. But you gave us great insight into the royal family today. Thank you so much for being on the show today.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Thank you.

[Tudor Dixon]

Where can people follow you so they can keep up on the royal family?

[Kinsey Schofield]

Oh, come get the best gossip at Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tudor Dixon]

Awesome. Thank you so much. And thank you all for joining the Tutor Dixon podcast. Same. If you want to watch it again, you go to iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or you can watch it on Rumble Rumble or YouTube uteRdixon and join us next time. Have a blessed day.

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