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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Mental Health, Federal Overreach, and America’s Crime Crisis
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. I'm here today with Kyle Olson. He is the founder of the Midwesterner. And I want to talk about all the things that are happening in the country right now. Mostly what's happening. I want to start with what's happening with crime, because President Trump went in and he federalized essentially the police force in Washington, D.C. suddenly, no carjackings, no murders. This has made Democrats completely crazy. I was on Newsmax last week and they were like, well, now Democrats have a 0% rating on 0% of Democrats think that the country is going in the right direction. Which I find interesting because obviously there are some who are happy that they don't have to worry about being murdered in the streets of D.C. but I think they're just so, I think Dems are just so unhappy with their life in general right now. They have no future person. They don't have somebody to rally behind. And Donald Trump is actually making progress. I think it's driving them crazy.
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Kyle Olson
Well, and they're so reactionary that what they do is when Trump comes out and says he supports something or he wants to do something, their automatic reaction is to just oppose it. I was, I was in D.C. a couple weeks ago. I took my kids before the school year started, and we went to D.C. we went to Union Station, which has sort of been the focal point of the National Guard, you know, and there was a real show of force. And people are, the Democrats are outraged about this. But you look at the result, and as you said, you know, there has been a significant, significant decline in crime. And how they can be opposed to that is, is I just don't understand it.
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Tudor Dixon
So that's what I find fascinating. And I can tell you from my own experience with friends, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago. So I see a bunch of those people on Facebook. And just earlier today, one of the people that I know from that area posted on Facebook like this rant about how nobody, it was some Fox News article about how people in Chicago are concerned about the level of crime. And this person just went nuts about, this is not true. This is entertainment. There is nobody concerned about crime. So I find that interesting because Mayor Johnson is obviously totally opposed to Donald Trump coming in. President Trump has said that he's going to send federal troops to Chicago to make it safe, because JB Pritzker. I can't speak. Is not doing anything. The mayor is not doing anything. I mean, similar to what happened out in LA when there were those terrible riots, this is something that we see in Detroit here in Michigan. Detroit is right now the third most violent city in the country, and Chicago, surprisingly, is lower on that list, but I think they have a higher murder rate. So Mayor Brandon Johnson decides to go out this past weekend, and he goes to a Labor Day rally, and he has this speech at this Labor Day rally, and he starts it with a chant that says, no federal troops in the city of Chicago. No militarized force in the city of Chicago. We're gonna defend our democracy in the city of Chicago. That was Saturday night that he says this. He is insulting the idea that anybody should have to come and keep people safe because they're defending democracy. So what happens? There's 54 shootings and seven people are killed. How is that defending democracy?
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Kyle Olson
Well, and what I. I don't understand why there is this tolerance for crime and violence. Why is that number of people being shot and being killed. Why is that? Okay, and then you have Trump, who is saying, we're going to use the National Guard to. And we're going to, you know, take over the D.C. police force, and then he, you know, rescinded that. And obviously, there's a distinction between Washington, D.C. and these other cities, because the federal government, you know, controls. Effectively controls Washington, D.C. so there's a difference. But at the same time, it doesn't matter if you vote Republican or Democrat. It doesn't matter if you don't like Donald Trump. There are still residents in all of these cities who they deserve freedom. They deserve security and safety, and people like Brandon Johnson aren't willing to give it to them.
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Tudor Dixon
But there's a side of the left that refuses to hear the people who are saying, this isn't what I signed up for. I'm not happy. And there's no denying there's been 274 people killed in Chicago just this year, folks. It's September. 274 people have lost their lives. And the left is so preoccupied with being against Donald Trump that, just like I said, this person that I saw posting on Facebook says, this is not an issue. This is entertainment. And you know what that article was? That article was actually interviews with people who live in this part of the city because that person posting on Facebook, she doesn't worry about her kids going out and getting shot on the streets. She isn't worried about whether or not she can go to the grocery store and not get into a fist fight. She doesn't have to worry about that because she's not living where the 274 people who have been killed were living. And this is the thing that I think is so critical for us to start to unpack in this nation. There are cities in this country that the left has turned their back on until it comes time to vote. And those people are starting to speak up and suburban white moms are, are saying, no, no, no, you don't actually have a problem. How can that, how does this even compute when they're the ones saying there's a racism problem? Isn't it kind of racist to refuse to admit that these people deserve to live in safe communities?
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Kyle Olson
Right. Well, the two days after we left, so we came home Monday, actually we came home Tuesday, but we were at Union Station on Monday. And on Wednesday the Vice President and the Secretary of defense and some visited Union Station. And there were these protesters in Union Station and they were, you know, white, they look like white. Some of them were elderly women. Chances are pretty good they don't live in Washington D.C. right. They're not, they're just there.
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Tudor Dixon
The shootings are.
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Kyle Olson
They're just there to oppose what the Trump administration's doing. And so who do they think they are when they are, they are opposing the show of force, the surge, whatever you want to call it. But they don't have to live like that.
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Tudor Dixon
Right?
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Kyle Olson
They go into, you know, probably one of the fancy neighborhoods in Virginia or Maryland and they don't have to live like everybody else is living in Washington.
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Tudor Dixon
They're not worried about their Labor Day party having a drive by shooting. I mean, and that's, this is a true scenario. So this is Mayor Johnson goes out and he is chanting this chant. On Saturday night, same night in Chicago, there's a drive by shooting. There are five men shot, two women shot. And I'm going to read this to you, it's pretty graphic. But they say a 20, the police indicated that a 28 year old woman was shot in the left thigh, a 30 year old woman was shot in the right knee, a 30 year old man was shot in the right leg, another 30 year old man was shot in the left thigh, 31 year old man in the left foot and a 32 year old man in the Left thigh. And then the last one is a 28 year old man who was shot in the buttocks. But I mean, you think about, these are not. These are people in the prime of their lives. They're 30 years old and now they have permanent injuries. And I say that because we have a friend who is a, he's an orthopedic pa and I remember one night. So we live in an area where the hospital is in a neighborhood where there are a lot of shootings. So I took my daughter to the hospital one night and there had been a few shootings and we were in the lobby with a few people that had been shot. And so I talked to our friend the next day and I was like, oh my gosh, is this common? And he said, we have this every single night. And I asked him, well, what happens to these people? And he said, to be honest, we had a guy who came in and he's like, he's this huge tough guy. And he came in and he got shot in the arm and he has to go have rehab on his arm. And he doesn't want to do it because it's so painful. He was like, because you think, oh, he's shot in the arm, that's not so bad. He said, the bone is totally shattered. We're trying to graft the bone back together and bring the, recreate an arm. When you hear these things, I think too many people go, oh, they were shot, but they didn't get killed. How do you think the guy that got shot in the foot is gonna do? What about the woman who was shot in the knee? I mean, these are lifelong injuries and this is all gonna cost everybody more money. Why is that not. Why is it like, instead of gun control, why aren't we saying, you know what this is? The Chicago has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country, and yet these 54 people were shot over the weekend. How about we have policing?
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Kyle Olson
Well, and how about we put a higher value on life? I think that's one of the biggest problems is the value of life is so low that people resort to, you know, shooting each other over stupid things or they're trying to, you know, rob each other of, you know, relatively insignificant things. And so I think once those societal issues are addressed, I think that will help. But yes, I mean, the, the constant focus is guns. And, and you know, with the, the, the attack in Minneapolis, it, it, the, it always goes to the gun, but you've got to look at who's holding the gun. What is the situation that, you know, this person decided to do this well.
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Tudor Dixon
And, you know, not glad you brought that up, but I think that is another issue that we're facing in this country. We talk about mental health issues, but we're not really allowed to talk about the mental health issues. And I have an article here because I wanted you guys to hear. You probably heard about the Walmart stabbing that happened in Michigan in. Back in July. This guy went into Walmart, stabbed 11 people. I think it was a Marine who stopped him and, and held him at gunpoint, but didn't shoot him. This, the, the backstory of this is quite shocking, quite stunning, because I think you have to kind of understand the backstory and why so many people are coming out and saying, we need something else for mental health. And President Trump was recently asked, what do you want to do about mental health? And he actually said, I'm considering reopening insane asylums. Which is something like, people would never say. They're like, my gosh. And maybe we don't call them insane asylums, but there is a argument for having mental health hospitals, places that you can stay and that you can be monitored. And this family, the family of this man who was 42 years old when he went into the Walmart and started stabbing people, they said they had looked all over for help for him, but now he's 42. You know, I mean, this is. There's no place to put an adult who is in this situation. But I wanted you to know how he got into this situation, because I think this is stunning. The mom was interviewed, and she said this is when she's talking about him as a child. She said he had a sense of humor. He kept us laughing. He was great. He was enjoyable to have. You know, just a typical little boy. But then at 14, she said he smoked marijuana, still his drug of choice, but that time the marijuana was laced with something. 14 years old, just gotten a bad, bad thing of weed. So he comes in, he says to his dad, he got down on his knees, and he goes, he says to his mom, mom, I'm in trouble. I got some bad pot. She says, his dad was there. We were holding him, trying to calm him down, and it just got worse. He got into a fetal. Wrapped him in a blanket, and we took him to the ER. She said, we lost Brad at 14. We lost him, but we never stopped loving him. That is so on so many levels that that scares me, because this was. I mean, gosh, this was years ago. And the weed that kids are getting now is much different than the weed this kid got. And he, he obviously had bad weed. He got, it was laced with something. It caused permanent brain damage. And even the students, because we're in Michigan, we've heard some of these stories of people who went to school with him. And they tell stories about him as like this super popular kid. They moved to Michigan from California. They were, they, they were really pop. This family was really popular. The kid was really popular. And then the story, every kid knew it. Like, Everybody that is 42 that graduated with him was online. Like, and then he got this bad thing apart. He ended up, like, nobody knew what happened. He kind of went crazy. And he did. He has had multiple run ins with the law. He was homeless at the time that this happened because he had been through that. We have like these halfway houses, but there's no place to put someone like this. And so people go, how did this happen? Well, he was under government care and somehow they say, so the, the mental health, community, mental health facilities, like, he slipped through the cracks. Somehow this happened. And the mom is like, it shouldn't have happened. There didn't need to be this stabbing. You know, this is, there should not be cracks you can slip through. And yet he did, he slipped through the cracks. This is somebody who, so just so you know a little bit more of his backstory in, I think it was 2013, he was caught running naked down a highway in Ohio. And then in 2016, he actually was found digging up graves at a cemetery with a stolen shovel from Home Depot. They knew that there was a mental health problem here, but somehow he fell through the cracks. And yet if you are President Trump and you talk about, hey, we need a facility for folks like this, it's not just for this person, it's to protect the entire community and to help his parents out. Yet Donald Trump is going to get, the left is going to come after him for this. But they have no solution, right?
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Kyle Olson
Well, yeah, I mean, this is, it's, it's uncomfortable. People don't like to talk about it, it's embarrassing for families, et cetera. But it's something that it, as you said, it's not just about the individual. It's about their family, it's about their neighbors, it's about their community. Because allowing someone like this to just, just slip through the cracks, clearly, I mean, this, this is a good example of how it can end up in disaster for a community.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
I want to tell you guys another story because this has stuck with me all these years. This happened in 2014. And so I'm telling you this because I want you to know that this is not unusual for families to be in this situation. In fact, I have friends who have nonverbal, violent autistic children who are twice their size at 16. They're punching holes through the walls. The other siblings in the family were scared. The parents didn't have any options. This is a story that happens to people over and over again, but nobody wants to talk about it. It's a very hard discussion to have. And you know, RFK came out and recently said, you, you don't understand. These people have autistic children who are violent and hard to handle. He didn't say every autistic child is that way. He said there are families in this situation. And the left came after him so hard. My kid's autistic and doesn't do that. That's fantastic. You don't get to say that. It doesn't happen to anybody. There's this other story of a kid. He was, I think he was a graduate of William and mary and at 21 he was diagnosed with schizophrenia and his dad was a state senator in Virginia. And that's why the story got so much attention. And so 60 Minutes did a story on this. And the reason that the senator wanted this story out was because he said, the system failed. My son, his name was Cray Deeds. And he. And the son, the son was named Gus. And he went out when they. The son, he knew the son was in trouble. He knew he was struggling. And at the time in Virginia, you could only have a six hour hold if there was no psychiatric bed. So he took him to the hospital and the hospital said, hey, if we can find a bed, we can keep him for longer. They couldn't find a bed, so they sent him home. And he said, I knew there was going to be an altercation. I knew there was going to be something. I didn't know it would be violent. I knew he would have some sort of a freak out. He said he went to bed that night and in the morning he was out. They lived on a farm. He was out in the barn. And his son comes out and he says, hey, bud, how'd you sleep? And the son says, fine. The dad turns his back, the son pulls out a knife, slashes him across the face, stabs him 10 times. Dad somehow gets away. And neighbors in the neighboring farm have him airlifted to the hospital. The most devastating part about the story is that he is in the helicopter when he hears on the police radio, we've got another one doa gunshot. He killed himself. He hears. While he is suffering, he hears on the radio that his son has killed himself. He went out to talk about this in 2014. He was trying to get everybody to listen to this. And I feel like there wasn't, you know, there may have been changes in Virginia, but on the national stage, there was not enough attention to this. And he bears a scar from the middle of his forehead down to the bottom of his chin from where his son slashed his face open because he was mentally ill. It is not nice to say, you know, we want to embrace mental illness and glorify mental illness. When people, the people around these people, they have no way of coming out and saying, I'm struggling. I don't know how to take care of this person. And I think President Trump is looking at this from that standpoint. And maybe he's not always saying it the way everybody wants it to be said, but what other choice do these families have, right?
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Kyle Olson
And I think it' syou're right. I think as there has been this period in society where we're supposed to affirm mental illness, we're supposed to tolerate mental illness. And I think people like President Trump are saying, we can't do that anymore. We don't want to shame people we don't want to embarrass people, but dealing with these issues is critical because, again, not only affects the person, but it affects their family, their neighbors, the whole community and society.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, I mean, look at the neighbors in. In Traverse City, you know, all those people at Walmart. Because we are afraid to admit that there are some people who cannot live on their own. They just cannot. They're not ready for this, and there's no help for them. That's the frustrating part about this. And I think this conversation with the maha movement and RFK and all of these doctors who are now with Dr. Makary at the FDA, who are saying, we have a problem. It is not always solved by medication. This has been like a huge controversy in the last week where these doctors have come out and been like, you know what? There are some really bad side effects to SSRIs. And they're saying even doctors don't know about these side effects. That in the European Union, they said that they had to be printed on the label, but in the United States, the side effects are not always printed on the label. So people don't necessarily know that these medications are actually, in rare cases, helping people, in most cases, numbing people and causing multiple problems on top of this. It is an industry that is so powerful because I think now we're up to 18 billion. It's an $18 billion industry. I mean, it's hard to fight that.
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Kyle Olson
Yeah, I think this is all one of the biggest issues the country's facing. And just because you print on a label doesn't mean anybody's going to read it.
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Tudor Dixon
I mean, but the doctors are supposed to read it. And in the United States, they're not.
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Kyle Olson
Printing it, but they know. They know.
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Tudor Dixon
It's interesting because I saw an interview with one of these doctors, and some of the side effects are so shocking, so shocking. And the interviewer said, why are the doctors allowing this? Do the doctors all know that these are the side effects that are happening? And he said, they don't. In the United States, they don't. And that's why we're trying to come out there, say this. And that's why we saw that panel recently where the doctors came out and they were talking about the effects of SSRIs on the fetus in a pregnant mother. Because they said, really, this is being hidden. Perhaps the pharmaceutical companies have so much money they can figure out ways to hide how bad they really are.
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Kyle Olson
Perhaps. Or perhaps they pay the news outlets to not cover it.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, yes, that is also True. But if you look at even the way they do these studies, it's like a psychiatric drug is really hard to tell if it is. They're not measuring whether or not your levels of serotonin change in your brain. It's like, do you feel better? Yes, I feel better. But you might not feel that anxiety. But there's so many other bad things that are happening. Is that trade off worth it? These people were. The stories that I've heard, people were never told what the side effects are. And then they have life changing side effects that in some cases are permanent.
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Kyle Olson
Right? Yeah, it's a big problem. So do you think that the RFK and HHS is on the right track?
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Tudor Dixon
I see them as boldly stating things that nobody has stated in the past. And I will say that I have doctor friends who are outraged by it. It's interesting because the response that I've seen on social media from people I know who are in the medical profession, they go crazy about the idea of saying anything bad about an SSRI. Also, admittedly, they are taking SSRIs. And it's an interesting thing to me because I think my mom was saying the other day when she goes to the doctor's office, she's like, man, they must think when you get to a certain age, you're really depressed. Because I have to always have to fill out this form of how depressed I am. And the girls were like, mom, we have to fill out that form too. And they started like reciting back that, you know, how many times a week? Most times this. And they know exactly every time they go in. And I remember when I had cancer and that was the first time I had seen that. So that would have been like 2015 was the first time I had seen those charts where you have to say how depressed you are. And I thought, man, this must be like, all cancer patients have to do this because they're probably monitoring us. But then I realized it was every doctor and the kids have to do it, and my parents have to do it. And it's become like such a big industry. But I don't understand, why do you have to fill that out? Are they instantaneously sending you to another doctor? Because is I've had friends who have had their general practitioners prescribe antidepressants, SSRIs, and I've had friends who have had their pediatrician prescribe SSRIs. And then I've had friends who've had a psychiatrist prescribe SSRIs. But like my, my general practitioner doesn't prescribe chemotherapy. Like why can anybody prescribe an anti anxiety or antidepressant? And that's not the case with other medicines. And why is every doctor asking you how depressed you are?
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Kyle Olson
I don't know.
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Tudor Dixon
I just, I just find that fascinating because I started thinking about this. I'm like, no matter where you're going, it's like, come on up. But are you.
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Kyle Olson
Because then what, what is the. There was a. There was someone I knew who went to, who was required to go to aa and he, I remember he said I didn't like going because when you go constantly thinking about alcohol and the whole point is to not think about it anymore. So if you're constantly being asked if you're depressed, well, maybe I am depressed. And then. Because then what is the outcome intended to be? Is it sort of broaching the subject? Well, yeah, I am kind of feeling down today. Well, then here's some drugs.
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Tudor Dixon
No, the girls. Actually, I forgot about this. The girls were talking about this because they said, hey, yeah, our friend's mom told her never to say that. Never to, to fill out any of those. To always say that you're not depressed. It's like seven questions. So it does. To the point where you're like, I mean, do I have little energy to go out and do things? You know, So I remember kind of tired too. That's that. But you're Talking to a 12 year old, you know, so that was the last time we were in the doctor's office. One of my girls was like, I don't know, maybe I do have little energy like once a week. And. And I was like, oh gosh, what happens if she fills that out? And then we got home, they were like, well, our friend's mom says if you don't fill that out saying that you're not depressed, then the government will come and take you away from us. And I'm like, I don't think that's what's going to happen, but I do think that parents are freaked out by it. And it's seven leading questions for children.
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Kyle Olson
Yep. And then you have this situation in Michigan where kids, you know, get their, what do you call it? The medical privacy.
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah. You don't. We don't get to. Once they're 12, we don't get to have a say over their. Anything in their medical record. They have to sign us over as a medical proxy. And you only get some of what they have done in their medical record. So you have to worry taking your kid to the Doctor. If they say something, the doctor can take them into a room away from you and have a conversation with them, and you can't know what the conversation is.
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Kyle Olson
Right.
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Tudor Dixon
So I do think that parents are now afraid of having those conversations with their kids. So I don't. I don't blame this woman for saying that to her daughter, because I think you are afraid if you. If the medical system gets a hold of your kid. I say, you know, years ago, I took my. My daughter had this. She was like, constantly washing her hands. I think I've told you guys this before. Constantly washing her hands. And her hands were, like, chapped. It was kind of like an OCD thing. But I think it was at the time. You know, when you're. Your kids are young, you don't realize your kids just go through these phases, you know, and it was. It was so bad. I went to the doctor. I'm like, I don't know why this is happening. She's like, oh, she needs to see a psychologist right away. So we went, because I was compliant, I'm going to listen to the doctor. We went and that psychologist was like, you have to go see a psychiatrist because she needs to be put on meds. And I wouldn't do it. I said, no way. But that's another thing. Like, since why do you have psychologists and psychiatrists? Like, I guess one is medical. And they've gone through medical school and they can prescribe, but they no longer talk to you about things anymore. They're just prescribed. And then the psychologist talks to you and they determine that there's something wrong and you need this medication, and then you get put on this medication, and it's just. I think it's a racket.
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Kyle Olson
Here comes the hate mail from psychologists and psychiatrists.
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Tudor Dixon
There's hate mail all the time. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
You want to get to. All right, we'll go a little bit long.
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Kyle Olson
Someone who needs some mental health care.
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Tudor Dixon
All right, when was this set this up?
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Kyle Olson
This was this last weekend in Detroit.
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Tudor Dixon
All right, here's Rashida Tlaib, your congresswoman. Look at this rooms, motherfuckers. We ain't going anywhere. Political structures that I have to work in that we are surrounded by was.
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Tudor Dixon
And warmongers in Congress. It comes from the streets. It comes from all of us mobilizing.
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Tudor Dixon
Gaza is the compass in this country. Now we're in Congress and we're every.
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Tudor Dixon
There's a lot there. The part that bothers me is she refers to being in Congress. Now we're in Congress like they're not Americans. Like it's some other group that. And we're in every corner of the United States. What does that mean?
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Kyle Olson
So they're called blood and soil nationalists. So Ilhan Omar is another one where they, they're elected to the American Congress but they go to represent their home country. So that's what she's talking about there.
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Tudor Dixon
What was that conference again?
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Kyle Olson
That was the People's Conference for Palestine. And where it was, it was in Detroit. It's like it's, it's, it's Democratic Socialists of America. It's, well, and then they're all socialists.
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Tudor Dixon
Talks about that like we've brought brothers and sisters in from other move to join this. I don't know. I don't think that was in that clip. I'd seen that in another clip where she's talking about we're growing because we're bringing brothers and sisters in from other movements. Obviously she uses foul language. This is nothing new for Rashida Tlaib, which I find interesting because our experience with the Muslim community in Michigan, the people that we are close with, they're not people that appreciate foul language or conversations like that. And I'm not saying everybody is the same, but it just is. She's their congresswoman and I just, gosh, I wish they would vote her out because she's just Vile. That's a vile way of speaking. And then Gaza is the compass. What does that, what does that mean to you?
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Kyle Olson
Well, I mean, they're all, I mean, they're anti Israel. And so that's sort of the litmus test that's going on in the Democrat Party right now, now is are you for or against Israel? So there's this, there's a very large growing contingent of anti Israel, anti Semitic, whatever you want to call them. And obviously, I mean, this conference was all about that. But that's what Rashida Tlaib, I don't know if I'd say she's leading it, but she is obviously one of the most obnoxious voices in it.
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Tudor Dixon
But she's not alone. I mean, that was a huge rally. You heard the cheers. You've seen these movements. And I do think they're trying to interlock these movements. This is the Mamdani movement of people that are rallying around him. It started with AOC and Bernie Sanders. And now you've got these college campuses that have these. I mean, Mamdani came from one of these socialist groups on a college campus.
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Kyle Olson
These, the people that go to these sorts of conferences, they, Mamdani is the real deal to them. Yeah, he's not just like a, you know, poser saying what he needs to say to get elected. He, he really believes it. And they, they believe in him, I would say, in a way that they, they don't even. They believe in him more than they do like an AOC or somebody like that. So if New York City elects Mamdani, it's. There's gonna be a lot of change in New York City. I'm not so sure it's good for the country.
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Tudor Dixon
It's kind of like this double edged sword. There's a part of me that feels like we have to protect New York at all costs. And there's another side that says, you know what? People need to see how damaging this is. I guess people don't read history books, so they have to see it in real life. And if Mom Donnie gets elected, New York become cesspool. I mean, he wants to allow people to be prostitutes, he wants to allow crime, he wants to have communes, he wants to have grocery stores that are owned by the government.
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Kyle Olson
Yeah, there's a lot of things. There was just an analysis. I can't remember CNN or somebody. There was just an analysis of the things he can't do. And there's a whole lot of things that he's saying he's going to do that. They have to go through the New York legislature and the governor has to sign it. And so there's a lot of things that he's just simply not going to be able to. But he, I think one of the biggest concerns people have is that he, I mean, like Brandon Johnson, he will tolerate crime and he will excuse crime and he will make the city more dangerous. And there's not a whole lot anybody outside of Donald Trump can really do about that.
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Tudor Dixon
But what about if you do end up with a group of congressmen and women that are become socialists? I mean, we're getting more and more. So how long does it take before they try to pass these? And that's. I actually kind of think that this is why there's this 0% satisfaction in the Democrat Party right now, because it's not just the direction that the country is going. I think they don't know their direction.
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Kyle Olson
No. And I think if Mamdani wins, there's going to be a major, I don't know if I'd call it a civil war, but there's going to be a major like that fracture that I think has been growing in the Democrat Party because look at Bill Clinton. And for as much as conservatives and Republicans didn't like Bill Clinton, look at his policies.
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, I know.
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Kyle Olson
Totally compared to what the policies are today.
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Tudor Dixon
Right.
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Kyle Olson
He's like a liberal Republican.
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Tudor Dixon
Right, right. Because right. When you look at they were when after 2020, there were so many people who were like, the Republican Party is fractured. There's the MAGA Republicans and the traditional Republicans. And the fact of the matter is that those two groups were not that different.
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Kyle Olson
No. And so if Mamdani wins, you're going to have this situation and you're already seeing it in other races, like in the governor's race in Virginia, Spamberger saying, you know, she doesn't to want to. She's making it very clear she's not Mamdani. So if Mamdani wins, Jeffries can't, He's.
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Tudor Dixon
He can't.
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Kyle Olson
And he lives there.
- [46:06]
Tudor Dixon
Yes, yes.
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Kyle Olson
And he acts like he doesn't know him. He's never met him. He only talked to him once. He like avoids the questions. It's strange. And so if Mamdani wins, he's going to be the highest profile mayor in the country. And he is, he's going to be very high profile Democrat because he's elected, elected. He's running as a Democrat. So you're going to have the situation where there's going to be a Litmus test. And candidates in districts and cities and seats not as liberal as New York are going to be asked, are you a Mamdani Democrat?
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Tudor Dixon
So that will be interesting in the Michigan Senate everywhere for the Michigan, Ohio, everywhere else. I had who's been there and he's been. Been campaigning with him. And you have Mallory McMurrow. And I know Haley Stevens is. I know everybody. I've had this debate with you guys. Haley Stevens is out. There is no way she has even people. She was on. What was she on the other day, Sarah? With. She was with Jen Psaki and people were posting. Did you see that where people were posting like Jen, no one, no one.
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Kyle Olson
Will elect a troll to the Senate.
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Tudor Dixon
She is that senator. Not a nice thing to say. I do mean like poppy, but she has a weird voice. That's why do Michigan. Why do I feel like that's the thing she's leaning into? Like this is my Michigan accent and I don't even believe that. I don't sound like that, I hope. No, Mallory McMorrow doesn't sound like that. And that's going to be.
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Kyle Olson
She's from New Jersey.
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Tudor Dixon
So that's true. Yes, that's true. Well, it'll be interesting to watch. We're going to be watching what happens in New York that I believe will dictate what happens in some of these other races. Like we said in Michigan, in the Michigan Senate, it's going to. I think the tight race will be between al said and McMurray and we'll see how that goes. If Michigan goes with that traditional mom Whitmer type, Benson type that they've been going with for a while or if they're going to branch out and go full socialism, it'll be interesting. I think that. I think New York will be a telltale sign and then whatever happens in 26 will tell us what's happening with the Democrat Party. That's why it's important for Republicans to get out and vote. Make it too big to rig. Thank you so much for listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. Thank you, Kyle, for being here.
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Kyle Olson
Thank you.
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Tudor Dixon
If you want to get this episode or others, go to tutordixonpodcast.com you can subscribe right there or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And you can watch us on YouTube or rumble uterdixon and make sure you tune in next time to the Tutor Dixon podcast. Thank you so much and have a blessed day.
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Time.
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