The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Minnesota Welfare Fraud, Terror Ties & Government Corruption

Summary

The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Minnesota Welfare Fraud, Terror Ties & Government Corruption

Episode Date: January 5, 2026
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Seamus Bruner, Director of Research at the Government Accountability Institute
Source Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on recent explosive revelations regarding welfare fraud in Minnesota, its intersections with terrorism financing, systemic government corruption, and broader political manipulations through taxpayer-funded programs. Tudor Dixon speaks with investigative journalist and researcher Seamus Bruner to explore how massive sums are siphoned from welfare programs, funneled into luxury for fraudsters and, at times, terror networks. The conversation then expands to discuss government spending under recent administrations, the use of taxpayer money by left-wing NGOs for political purposes, and connections between activist groups, foreign influence, and U.S. politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minnesota’s $1 Billion Welfare Fraud and Terror Connections

[01:41 - 07:15]

• Outrageous Scale of Fraud

  • Seamus details how Minnesota's welfare fraud far surpasses typical cases, with over $1 billion stolen. Normally, such fraud reaches “millions, tens of millions,” but “this case in Minnesota tops 1 billion.”
  • Money intended for “starving children” has instead funded “luxury cars, luxury watches, mansions.”
  • Notably, the “New York Times… reported on how egregious this particular EBT welfare fraud was in Minnesota.” [03:00]

• Fraud Financing Terrorism

  • Reports suggest funds made their way to “El Shabab terror networks.” Bruner’s previous research traced similar flows: “We put out a report called EB Terrorism…and it traced all of this money that goes from welfare scams to terrorists.” [02:18]
  • Historical context: Even the “Boston bombers were using welfare money...911 hijackers…taking advantage of welfare.” [03:00]

• Political Complicity

  • Seamus and Tudor allege that Democratic Minnesota officials, such as Governor Tim Walz and Rep. Ilhan Omar, have minimized the scandal to “protect a key voting bloc.”
  • “These migrants are voters for people like Tim Walls, Ilhan Omar. And so they’re willing to let them take food out of the mouths of starving children.” [04:46]
  • Ilhan Omar is criticized for what’s described as a flippant attitude and connections to the fraud’s organizers: “She smugly went out on national TV…‘It’s the FBI’s fault.’ I can’t do anything about it. And that is scary to me…” [05:20]

2. Structural Government Failures and Lack of Accountability

[07:15 - 09:58]

• Oversight Breakdown

  • Seamus accuses government agencies of “looking the other way” or being completely ineffective. “There’s really no oversight. There’s really no accountability. Once Congress appropriates money…there’s no accountability.” [07:41]
  • He cites reports “paying the contracting grant officials in the government over a million dollars in bribes. And there was no oversight, no accountability.” [07:41]

• Massive Federal Spending and Doge Fizzling Out

  • Discussion around “Doge”—a program intended to increase oversight—ending in disappointment.
  • Details the Biden administration’s unprecedented spending: COVID relief, Infrastructure and Jobs Act, Inflation Reduction Act—“$6 trillion in spending in just four years.” [09:17]
  • “They couldn’t get it out fast enough.” [09:17]

3. Infrastructure and Inflation Reduction Act Fiascos

[09:58 - 15:11]

• Wasteful Installation and Cash Handouts

  • Tudor shares a personal story about unnecessary fiber installation as part of infrastructure spending in Michigan, illustrating a broader lack of targeting and accountability.
  • “This money comes into the state…Next thing I know, there’s someone digging up my front yard…This is a massive amount of money that I’m not opposed to infrastructure, but we didn’t need this. It’s like a lobbyist dream.” [09:58]

• Handouts to Blue States and Campaign Donors

  • Seamus: “It was a huge handout to blue states…I mean, we compared the amount of money that the federal government gave…It happened in a lot of swing states suspiciously.” [12:32]
  • Points to billions given to entities created solely to receive government funds: “Entities like Acme LLC…things that had been set up just 10 days before they got the money.” [13:46]
  • Cites example: “Stacey Abrams…didn’t she get a bunch of money, like $20 million to spend in a half an hour?” [13:46]
  • “The real fraud happened actually at the congressional level and when Biden signed these bills…every single contract becomes a legal battle. It’s almost infeasible.” [13:56; 15:11]

4. Electric Vehicle Push and the ‘War on Farmers’

[15:42 - 18:55]

• Mandates Without Market Demand

  • Tudor criticizes EV incentives, sharing that once subsidies ended, production dried up: “They just shut down all the EV lines. It’s all a scam.” [16:43]
  • Seamus ties this to what he calls the “controller class”—wealthy interests influencing policy: “This isn’t just bureaucratic incompetence…there is this class above the political class.” [17:10]

• Fake Meat and Farmland Consolidation

  • “There’s a whole chapter…Bill Gates is trying to buy up all this farmland…” also investing in “alternative protein…fake meat…Beyond Burgers.” [17:10]
  • Result: “Farmers…going out of business…All of this money wasted, people’s lives wrecked to push a product that nobody wants.” [18:14]

5. Activist Funding, Riot Inc., and Voter Manipulation

[20:06 - 31:53]

• Domestic & Foreign Funding Behind Protests

  • Seamus explains the “Protest Industrial Complex,” or “Riot Inc.,” is fueled by donations and taxpayer money channeled through left-leaning NGOs: Arabella, Tides, and funders like Neville Roy Singham.
  • “There’s a lot of domestic money, even your own taxpayer money, going into what we call Riot Inc.” [20:06]

• Foreign Influence: China and Cuba Connections

  • Singham, based in China, is described as a “big funder and organizer of the pro Hamas rallies,” as well as BLM and anti-ICE riots. [20:55]
  • Reports of American activists going to Cuba for “Marxist revolutionary training”—allegedly funded by Singham’s networks: “Down to Cuba to receive Marxist revolutionary training…their goal is to overthrow the United States.” [24:58]

• Voter Bloc Engineering through Immigration

  • NGOs receiving hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars are also involved in “the Biden border crisis”—resettling migrants in swing states for both ideological and commercial aims.
  • “There’s a direct line from the open border to the ballot box…whether illegally getting people onto the voter rolls or…waiting…within five years or less, they can become donors…eventually they can actually legally vote.” [22:51]

• Marjorie Taylor Greene, Code Pink, and CCP Propaganda

  • Tudor critiques Rep. Greene’s association with Code Pink, a group now aligned with pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel activism, allegedly connected to CCP propaganda via Singham.
  • On anti-Semitic acts in Congress: “They’ve stopped Jewish people in the halls of Congress and screamed ‘from the river to the sea.’ I mean, that is a call for genocide.” [24:58]
  • Seamus comments: “For Marjorie Taylor Greene to…be friends with…like, the photo is just a total unforced error in a long line of them.” [27:12]

6. The Left’s Use of Taxpayer Money for Political Ends

[30:56 - 31:53]

• Taxpayer Funds as “Force Multipliers”
  • Seamus: “These big groups…take a small chunk of private cash…from Soros or Gates…then augment…with a massive amount of taxpayer money.”
  • “Billions of dollars are going into…left wing causes. The same cannot be said of the right wing.” [31:40]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“A billion dollars was taken from starving children. It’s awful. And the people who took it are driving luxury cars, luxury watches, mansions. So it’s really one of the most grotesque frauds around.”
— Seamus Bruner [03:00]

“Not all Somalians are bad, but…there was a rap video that just went viral from a Somali rapper in Minnesota…‘Yeah, what’s the big deal? I mean, you know, fraud happens all the time. We’re talking a billion dollars.’”
— Seamus Bruner [06:02]

“It’s a massive amount of money…that I’m not opposed to infrastructure, but we didn’t need this. It’s like a lobbyist dream.”
— Tudor Dixon [09:58]

“The real fraud happened at the congressional level and when Biden signed these bills. Because now you bring into something like a Doge in a new administration, you can’t just cut the contracts. They were lawfully executed.”
— Seamus Bruner [14:29]

“They just shut down all the EV lines. It’s all a scam.”
— Tudor Dixon [16:43]

“There is this class above the political class who is actually pushing for these massive spending bills…”
— Seamus Bruner [17:10]

“We found it’s the same players: Bill Gates was a huge fund of Arabella, over the past five years, $300 million.”
— Seamus Bruner [22:51]

“Down in Cuba…you have this CCP foothold training American citizens how to become revolutionary Marxists.”
— Seamus Bruner [25:55]

“There’s so much money flowing out that it’s like billions of dollars are going into left wing causes. The same cannot be said of the right wing.”
— Seamus Bruner [31:40]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:41] – Introduction to Seamus Bruner and Minnesota fraud background
• [02:18] – Welfare fraud’s connections to terrorism
• [03:00] – Fraud's systemic nature and "culture of corruption"
• [07:41] – Structural failings in oversight and grant distribution
• [09:17] – Biden-era federal spending and failed oversight
• [09:58] – Personal story on wasteful infrastructure spending
• [13:56] – Contracts for donors/political allies and congressional-level fraud
• [15:42] – Electric vehicle policies and lobbyist interests
• [17:10] – War on farmers and lab-grown meat investments
• [20:06] – “Riot Inc.”, protest funding, and NGO ties
• [22:51] – The open border-to-ballot-box pipeline
• [24:58] – Code Pink, CCP funding, and anti-Semitic activism in Congress
• [30:56] – Taxpayer money as a “force multiplier” for leftist agendas
• [32:37] – Bruner shares where listeners can follow his work

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Links & Resources from Seamus Bruner

• Twitter: @SeamusBruner
• The Drill Down: thedrilldown.com

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This summary distills critical discussions, quotes, and context from the Tudor Dixon Podcast’s detailed interrogation of contemporary government corruption, activist networks, and the weaponization of taxpayer funds for political engineering, as revealed by investigative journalist Seamus Bruner.

Transcript

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[Tudor Dixon]

Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today I have Seamus Bruner with us. He is the director of research at the Government Accountability Institute and author of Controller Exposing the billionaire Class, their secret deals, and the globalist plot to dominate your life. Welcome to the podcast.

[Seamus Bruner]

Hey Tudor, great to be with you.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, it's a lot. There's a lot going on and I know you've been out there talking about all of it. I think a lot of people are wondering what exactly is happening in Minnesota. We've heard about this like mystery billion dollars that has gone missing and seems to be taken by the Somalian community in some way. Elhan Omar, the congresswoman out there has been like kind of nonchalant, like, well, it got lost, it's the FBI's fault. And Waltz the governor is just like, ho hum. Things like this happen. What is going on?

[Seamus Bruner]

Yeah, so it's a, it's a pretty shocking story. I mean usually the EBT fraud, welfare fraud is in the millions, tens of millions. This case In Minnesota tops 1 billion. And that is obviously a huge amount of money. We've been tracking EBT and welfare fraud really since before 2018. We put out a report. I work with Peter Schweitzer, by the way. We follow the money. We put out a report called EB Terrorism, and it traced all of this money that goes from welfare scams to terrorists. Now that actually does appear to be part of what's gone on in Minnesota.

[Tudor Dixon]

Why do you say all of this money like this is a regular thing?

[Seamus Bruner]

Oh, it happens all the time. I mean, it's crazy. The amount of fraud especially. I mean, wasted abuse as well. And the thing about entitlements, things like welfare, you know, we want. And the thing that's so disgusting about welfare fraud is that it really does take away from disadvantaged people who need it. You know, single mothers and children and all of this stuff. And these people in Minnesota, I almost said Somalia. These people in Minnesota, a billion dollars was. Was taken from starving children. It's awful. And the people who took it are driving luxury cars, luxury watches, mansions. So it's really one of the most grotesque frauds around. And then, as I was saying about the terrorism component, the reports indicate, I mean, even the New York Times, by the way, has reported on how egregious this particular EBT welfare fraud was in Minnesota. And that's how, you know, it's really bad. Some of this money was apparently making it to El Shabab terror networks. And that tracks with what we found. I mean, the. In. In our report that we put out in 20, we found that the Boston bombers were using welfare money to enable their schemes. Even the 911 hijackers, they're all kind of taking advantage of welfare. And what you need to know about a terror attack, I mean, it seems maybe sort of obvious that doesn't cost very much money to perpetrate an attack. Like the Boston bombing was a pressure cooker and some scrap metal, less than a hundred dollars, really. And so when you're talking about billions of dollars and some of that money flowing out of Minnesota, away from Minnesota taxpayers, hungry children, etc. And going to terror networks overseas, the full weight of the Justice Department needs to come crashing down on this. And then you mentioned Tim Walls and of course, Ilhan Omar. This really does lead to Governor Walls. He's the one who basically he or his office swept it under the rug. And as you know, the New York Times reported he was trying to protect a key voting bloc. And so that's the thing here that's really so insidious, is that these migrants are voters for people like Tim Walls. Ilhan Omar. And so they're willing to let them take food out of the mouths of starving children. Some of it gets shipped off to terrorism. I've not really seen a more egregious case of welfare fraud here.

[Tudor Dixon]

But when he talks about it, he's like, you can't look into this because you are taking food out of the mouths of babies. So you can't look into this. But if you know that this has happened and you know that this money is being funneled this way, and some of these, there's like a weird connection with Elhan Omar. Like she was with one of the organizers of all of this reiterate fundraiser or something. Like she's, she knows these people. And yet she smugly went out on national TV and was honestly like, well, you know, if the FBI let it happen, it's their fault. I can't do anything about it. And that is scary to me that no one is holding her accountable.

[Seamus Bruner]

Yeah, exactly right. And the New York Times reported again, and I, you know, I don't cite the New York Times because they're particularly trustworthy, but the admission against their interest here is so striking. They reported that in Somalia there is a culture where Ilhan Omar comes from and these fraudsters. There is a culture of corruption. Much more. It's much more common over there than it is here. It's just kind of like normal for, you know, stealing and grifting off of the government and getting crony and corrupt contracts like happened in Minnesota. And so for them to report that is, you know, that's not normal for the New York Times to do that. And what you see time and again, I mean, there's all these viral clips right now on social media of various Somalis from Minnesota. And of course, not all Somalians are bad, but you see these viral clips, I mean, there was a rap video that just went viral from a Somali rapper in Minnesota. There's other clips where the guy's saying, yeah, what's the big deal? I mean, you know, fraud happens all the time. We're talking a billion dollars. So for Walls to say that it's actually, you know, to project that it's not this key voting block of his that was guilty, but instead, you know, people who want to cut the programs, it's. It's just a little too rich.

[Tudor Dixon]

And, and this was, I mean, this is clearly taxpayer money. This is coming directly out of the welfare program. Right, but this is money that's going to. I mean, it's also money going to these organizations that are saying they're managing how young people, like young children, single moms, children, are getting this food. So exactly how do they, how do they do it? I mean, how do they funnel it through there?

[Seamus Bruner]

It's, it's, it's shocking. I mean, how, how inept our government is, whether by design or just, you know, by nature or whether it's intentionally, they're looking the other way. But the amount of work we've done in the last year, looking into like the stuff DOGE is looking at, whether it's the EPA or we just had a report come out on the Small Business Administration has this DEI program, the rules, and just like what you have to say to get a huge check from the government, it's crazy. So there's really no oversight. There's really no accountability. Once Congress, whether at the federal or state level, appropriates money to a particular program, say they, they want to fund the, you know, End Childless Hunger initiative, or they want to fund some small business DEI program, once that money has been appropriated to the caus, the people who dole it out. We just put out a report, a $550 million grant. They were paying the contracting grant officials in the government over a million dollars in bribes. And there was no oversight, no accountability. We really wouldn't know about it except for the Small Business Administration has really taken seriously looking at all this. And doge. I mean, the elements that still remain are still exposing every day new contracts and everyone more shocking than the last.

[Tudor Dixon]

You said the elements that still remain of doge. Is that a concern to you? That there is not an actual department that is. I mean, there should be departments looking at waste, fraud and abuse, but this was a different level. Is it a concern to you that. That those people are not there to go to?

[Seamus Bruner]

Yeah, it's. I mean, it was. I think everybody's a little disappointed with how Doge sort of fizzled out. We knew even before there was a Doge that reining in the spending from the Biden administration. I mean, I don't know that people realize exactly how much Joe Biden unleashed. At first it was his Covid bill that was over a trillion. Then he had the immigrant or the Infrastructure and Jobs act that was another trillion and a half. And then there was the notorious Inflation Reduction act, which will. I mean, it's over a trillion basically now, all told. I mean, $6 trillion in spending in just four years. I mean, it's, it's staggering. They couldn't get it out fast enough.

[Tudor Dixon]

The infrastructure. I always joke that the Infrastructure money. And I don't even know if this is a joke, but we. Michigan got some infrastructure money. And some of this was supposed to make up for the fact that there were people in the state that couldn't get online during the pandemic. And we don't want that to ever be the case again. Right. So we've got to make sure that there is Internet access across the entire state. And this is like, you know, there's areas of Detroit where they weren't being able to get on the Internet. There were areas in the Upper Peninsula where they couldn't get on the Internet. I. At my house, great Internet, always have had great Internet, not a problem whatsoever. This money comes into the state, and the next thing I know, there's someone digging up my front yard. And I'm like, what are you doing? Oh, we're putting fiber in. We've got. And I said, why are you putting. Where is this coming from? Well, we've got a contract. I said, where is. Who has the contract? The city has the contract. Why does the city have the contract? The state got this money. The state got money to put to make sure that people who have no Internet access have the infrastructure to have Internet access. Suddenly, Frontier comes in. They get a big contract of state funds that I are. Were really federal funds that came to the state to put Internet. And nobody's monitoring where it's going. So me, who I already have great access. I'm getting fiber in my front yard from a company who's getting a massive amount of money to do it, but they're getting money. And then the guy who's digging in the middle of my front yard, I'm like, do we have to put this right in the middle of my front yard? Cause we don't have this box off to the side. Why are we putting this box in the middle of my front yard? That's a whole nother issue. We moved it, but he comes to my yard, and I said, well, who do you work for? He's like, oh, I just got the contract to dig the holes. He's like, I just have this map, and this is where I'm supposed to put these holes. This is a massive amount of money that I'm not opposed to infrastructure, but we didn't need this. It's like a. A lobbyist dream.

[Seamus Bruner]

It totally was. So, yeah, that ija. The Infrastructure and Jobs Act. Investment and Infrastructure and Jobs Act. That was perhaps one of the most egregious. I think the. The real. The worst was because there was so much, there was $50 billion or something. And they definitely didn't spend all of that on, on putting in high speed Internet all over the country. Apparently they just tore up your yard because there are plenty of people who have Internet. But it, but it was, I mean.

[Tudor Dixon]

People that need, actually need it.

[Seamus Bruner]

Right. And, and it was a huge handout to blue states. I mean we compared the amount of money that the federal government like gave to the states to spend and it happened in a lot of swing states suspiciously. But in any case, the Inflation Reduction act was even worse I would say than that because at least somebody was doing something. I mean it was bad work. I mean so Keynesian, like we'll pay people to dig holes and then we'll pay them to, to fill them back in. But, but the Inflation Reduction Act, I mean we, we found over 100 billions first of all, 100 billion that had flowed out of the Biden administration after President Trump was elected in November 2024, but before he was inaugurated. So in a 90 day span, over $100 billion. It was called gold bars off the Titanic. I don't know if you saw that story involving epa, but also the Energy Department, the Agriculture Department for all these programs that were just brand new, the to Internet or rural access to energy program. And it's like shooting fish in a barrel. I mean we've got these spreadsheets. The database we've built is thousands and thousands of rows long with entities like Acme LLC and things that had been set up just 10 days before they got the money.

[Tudor Dixon]

And so yeah, wasn't something where that, what Stacey Abrams, didn't she get a bunch of money like $20 million to spend in a half an hour?

[Seamus Bruner]

It was, it was 2 billion to power forward community. That was. Yeah, it was 2 billion to a entity that did not exist six months prior. Totally a purpose. The term is purpose built. If you look at a purpose built company for a government grant is like it was just built to receive money. And they didn't even do anything with the money. Nothing substantial anyway. And so my point with that though is that Biden rushed through these three major spending bills. The infrastructure one, the inflation one and the COVID one. Up to $6 trillion possib more. When Congress passed those, the way our Constitution, our Supreme Court, our system is built is that when Congress passes something and the President signs it, it's kind of sacrosanct, it's not easy to undo it. And so the real, the fraud happened actually at the congressional level and when Biden signed these bills. Because now you bring into something like a Doge in a new administration, you can't just cut the contracts. They were, you know, lawfully, you know, so it feels gross to say that, but they were lawfully executed appropriation bills. And so Doge, that's why it had such a problem is every single contract becomes a legal battle. It's almost infeasible.

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Tudor Dixon]

I think about just the, the whole electric vehicle scam. I mean, this was something that was legislated on, on a state level. Also on a federal level. I, I mean, you had states like California where Newsom was like, oh, by 28, you'll never have another gas powered vehicle in the state. We won't allow it. They forced the automotive industry to change their entire line. So you think about it, you've got the government forcing this. But then the government's like, don't worry, we're going to give people so much money to buy these cars. It's going to suddenly go, suddenly this is going to catch on. It reminds me of when they put me into labor early and they said at night we're going to take off the Pitocin and your body's probably just going to go into labor. And guess what? It didn't. Because that's not how it worked. And that was the same thing with the automotive industry. People didn't just suddenly go, oh well, you know what? Yes, I want electric vehicles they didn't sell. The minute Biden was out of office, Trump was like, okay, we're done with paying people to buy cars. And then suddenly the automotive industry mysteriously, how funny. They're like, oh, if we're not going to get money from the government for your cars, then we're not actually going to make these cars because we can't sell them. And now here I am in the state of Michigan. I talked to a guy at Dollar General the other day that I used to work with at the foundry and I said, how's it going? And he goes, well, I'm a tier one supplier to the Automotive industry and they just shut down all the EV lines. It's all a scam.

[Seamus Bruner]

Oh, and it has real world consequences like that. I write about it a lot in the book Controller Guards. I mean there's a whole chapter. Because this isn't just bureaucratic incompetence. And that was the whole point of the book, is that there is this class above the political class who is actually pushing for these massive spending bills. And it's not just political operatives like Stacey Abrams. And we can talk actually about how the left uses your tax dollars as a force multiplier for their own agenda, whether it's open borders, resettling migrants or get out the vote. We have the Riot Inc. Report, we could talk about that. But it just. For example, in the War on Farmers chapter, I talk about how and why Bill Gates is trying to buy up all this farmland and put, you know, generation five, six, seven generation owned farms out of business. And why he, it's not a coincidence. He simultaneously invested in all of the largest alternate so called alternative protein, I call it fake meat or lab grown meat companies like beyond, you know, beyond burgers and pasta.

[Tudor Dixon]

Another thing that's not going to catch on.

[Seamus Bruner]

Exactly. So they pumped all this money into it. They had a bunch of taxpayer money. They used threats of like methane. You know, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez did not just invent one day in her mind that cow flatulence is a threat to the environment. That comes from a, you know, a Bill and Melinda Gates foundation or you know, similar white paper saying that it is so that they can target the farmers. And so the real world consequences is, ask any farmer, it is harder and harder. I mean they're going out of business. You can't really turn a profit because a the environmental regulations, but then the subsidies and at the same time, customers, consumers, they don't want fake meat. So all of this money wasted, people's lives wrecked to push a product that nobody wants.

[Tudor Dixon]

And it's because they started with, I mean part of the problem there is they started with like, look, you can eat crickets and cockroaches and they're just as good. It's like, no, thank you. We will never eat, we'll never eat that. So we have all this money that is, is going into all of this other stuff. But you talked about getting out the vote and you talked about Riot Inc. And you, you talk about all of this. I want to get into a little bit about how they have controlled this narrative about Israel and Palestine and used that to get people to Come out and vote. And I say that because we've just seen this horrific attack on Bondi beach and we see this anti Semitism growing across the country. And I do believe that there are useful idiots that are like, oh, this is a message that will get people to vote. And they don't even realize that there's a bigger message, a more dangerous message going out there. And I think we are seeing it fivefold across the globe right now because of what's happening with American politics and the manipulation of money. So tell us a little bit about.

[Seamus Bruner]

Riot Inc. Yeah, so at the White House roughly a month ago, President Trump invited me and several other journalists like Andy Ngo, Julio Rosas, the people who are really on the ground dealing with the antifa threat. And the point I brought was that none of this is organic. There's a lot of domestic money, even your own taxpayer money, going into what we called Riot Inc. The protest Industrial complex. And you've seen it, you know, all year long, these anti ICE riots out in Portland, Seattle, you know, in Chicago. And so, you know, we've, because we had looked into how much money these big left wing NGOs get sorrows, the Arabella funding network, Tides. Neville Roy Singham was one of the names that we brought up up at the White House. There's a huge foreign element here, like with the ccp alignment with Neville Roy Singham. He lives in China. He's doing the bidding, we believe, of the CCP in sowing these divisions in all of this chaos. He was a big funder, an organizer of the pro Hamas rallies in New York City after October 7th. He's also a big funder of all of these anti ICE riots. He was a huge funder of, of the BLM riots of 2020. And so he is sowing this division in this chaos among many other forces, these radical left NGOs, Soros, Arabella types. And so, you know, we dug into that, we showed that to President Trump. He was shocked. We got our research to the appropriate agencies, but we wanted to dig even a little further because we were wondering, why do they want to, why are these riots so anti ice? And what we found is that the Exact same big NGOs that get your tax dollars, by the way, hundreds of millions of them, they are the same ones who funded the Biden border crisis. They are the same ones who brought in 10 million people and resettled them all throughout the country. And we said, you know, that led to another question. Well, you know, do they just, I mean, why do they want to Eliminate borders. Are they just total globalists? That's true, but there's actually a commercial component here and there's the get out the vote component. So we found it's the same players too. And Bill Gates was a huge fund of Arabella over the past five years. 300 million. You know, a lot of the other left wing tech oligarchs were big funders of these tides. Arabella, you know, there's, there's the Ford foundation, etc. Rockefeller Foundation. They're also invested in the get out the vote operation. And so there's a direct line from the open border to the ballot box. I mean, whether they're illegally getting people onto the voter rolls or just wait, it's a waiting game. It's an, it's a time game. I mean, within five years or less, they can become donors. You know, people with green cards and permanent resident status can become donors, or eventually they can actually legally vote if they're not getting on the rolls illegally. And then of course, there's some precincts where they can actually legally vote. Non citizens can vote in places like California, et cetera. And then the final thing is apportionment. When you bring 10 million people in and you distribute them to various places like California, that gives them a lot more, you know, a dozen maybe in California representatives that they shouldn't have, or, you know, more than five, 10. You know, there's not really, it's not clear how many left wing progressive congresspeople we have specifically because of the large influx of migrants. But that's just another added benefit. So it's commercial and it's also ideological.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, I'm glad that you brought up Neville Roy Singham at the White House because he is married to the co founder of Code Pink, the co founder, the other co founder is Medea Benjamin. And that is the person who Marjorie Taylor Greene has been posting that she's friends with. Which is very interesting to me because in 23 she posted a, a tweet that said, you know, I'm out here with Code Pink talking to them and they're anti war. But they have, as soon as they made this connection with Singham, there has been some, they've been very pro Hamas, they've been out there pro Palestine and they've been, they've stopped Jewish people in the halls of Congress and screamed from the river to the sea. I mean, that is a call for genocide. It's like literally looking at someone and saying, I wish you were dead. And they've been doing this in The Halls of Congress. I will say those people should be tracked down on video and they should be banned from the halls of Congress because you should not be allowed to do that inside our sacred buildings. But they are doing that. They're calling. They're saying that to people's faces, essentially, I want you dead. How has that connection. How does that connection to a Roy Singham change an organization like that?

[Seamus Bruner]

I mean, it's huge. I mean, Neville Roy Singham, again, he's funding not just. I mean, he's a major funder of Code Pink, but his People's Forum, we put out a report that actually got some big traction. His People's Forum. And in Neville Roy Singham's funding to Cuba and to the Venter Most Brigade, I could list half a dozen Cuban entities that are directly tied to Cuban intelligence, Communist intelligence. And this group brought down over 700American groups, BLM activists, et cetera, down to Cuba to receive Marxist revolutionary training. The one that put this on our radar was the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City. This group kind of popped up after the Charlie Kirk assassination. They, you know, there's no. I'll be clear. There's no direct tie to Kirk's assassination, but everybody noticed it. And we were able to scrape all of their social media, get videos of this group down in Cuba getting their Marxist revolutionary training. We got their whole substack before they took it down. And they were talking about their goal is to overthrow the United States. These are the kind of groups that Neville Roy Singham backs and brings down to Cuba. And a lot of people know that Cuba had this tie to Russia, you know, during the Cold War, but that has really kind of turned into more of a China connection. China has really set up outposts in Cuba, 90 miles from our border. I'm down in Florida. It doesn't give us great comfort to know that just 90 miles away, you have this CCP foothold training American citizens how to become revolutionary Marxists. But that. That's just one of the many things. Neville Roy Singham also funds a group called. Called Churla. It was the Coalition for. I think it's Humane Immigrant Rights in Los Angeles. They were, you know, accused or Senator Hawley, among others, sent them letters. And they've been investigated for their role in the violent anti ICE riots out on the West Coast. And so, like I mentioned, the BLM stuff, the Pro Hamas stuff after October 7, and for Marjorie Taylor Greene to take one, be in a photo to be friends with, I mean, I guess it's worse to be friends with. And, like, the photo is just a total unforced error in a long line of them. So.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, that's. I think that's the stunning thing. Like, I said it for me, as I watch this, I'm like, okay, in 23, she went outside. She gets a picture with them. She posts it. She says she's anti war. We know that's been her stance for a long time. She wants no foreign wars. She doesn't want the United States to be involved in anything. Okay. But then there's this sudden switch in what seems to be her allegiance to her constituents who voted for her because they believed that she was a part of the Republican Party and supported the policies of this administration. And she suddenly completely shifted on that. And then she posts this like, I'm America first. I'm full against funding foreign wars and support peace because that' for everyone, especially the most innocent people. Children, I have enjoyed a friendship with Medea for a few years now, even though politics says that's not allowed. Whoa, wait a minute. Politics doesn't say that's not allowed. I mean, your values should say that's not allowed. This is somebody who is pushing CCP propaganda in the United States that has had people in the halls of Congress telling Jewish people they wish they were dead. I mean, this is. This is not protection of young people. Is she misguided, or has this total switch been because of this connection? I mean, that is. That is the. These are the questions that I have about what is going on with Marjorie Taylor Greene. But as you've pointed out, Code Pink is out there doing these things, and they are dangerous for our country.

[Seamus Bruner]

Yeah, I mean, I've got. I've got opinions on why Marjorie Taylor Greene has done this. I mean, you know, there's been reporting she got snubbed by the Trump administration, didn't get an appointment. I don't really know why she did this. I don't. I don't know. I don't have any evidence that it's like a financial reason. I think it seems to sort of track that she realized that she'd reached kind of the ceiling. You're not supposed to give up, though. I mean, you're. I'm exactly right to mention her constituents. And so what this kind of looks like is just really trying to stick it to Donald Trump. I mean, you saw the video. I may. I. A lot of people saw the video went viral of the Code Pink activists getting up in Donald Trump's face when he was trying to have dinner at A restaurant seemed like a total national security threat. I'm not sure how they were, were, you know, allowed to do that, but they were swiftly kind of ushered out. In any case, it's an obvious slap in the face to President Trump to align with the group that is so anti Trump. And she's been doing stuff like this for, for a while, ever since apparently she got snubbed.

[Tudor Dixon]

So I mean, you make a great point. It certainly begs the question, he was at that restaurant that night. She and Brian Glenn have been trusted people when it comes to the administration, trusted by the President. Not many people would have known he was going there that night. And yet Code Pink showed up. And it just seems like there could possibly be a connection to Marjorie Taylor Greene there. And I certainly hope that she would not have risked our national security for vendetta. But I've seen behavior out of her that I just have not been able to comprehend and not understand. And I was out on the campaign trail with her when we were campaigning for Donald Trump and certainly there was no loss of loyalty there. But you brought up the constituents and I think, think that's what is critical right now. As we go into the midterms, we have to be able to communicate these manipulations that these groups are able to do when it is putting money into some of these organizations. And they're different no matter what state you're in, that are on the ground trying to manipulate our constituents to get them to vote a different way. And they're using our money against us with radical propaganda. Propaganda and lies.

[Seamus Bruner]

Yeah, that's the thing that's so upsetting to me is that they're you, you know, these big groups. And Neville Roy Singh, I mean Sherlo got close to 50, you know, one of the groups that he's a funder of got close to $50 million in taxpayer money. And so they've, the, the left has gotten so effective as at like taking a small chunk of private cash from people like Neville Roy Singham or Soros or Gates or whoever and then augmenting that, that with a massive amount of taxpayer money. And our government spends so much money that it's so hard for, I mean it's a full time job for us and a team of 15 people and you still can't track it all. And there's so many others who are also doing this kind of work. So there's just so much money flowing out that it's like billions of dollars are going into like left wing causes. And the same cannot be said of the right wing. I mean, there's no groups like on the right that are using taxpayer money as like get out the vote efforts.

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Tudor Dixon]

So we don't necessarily know this unless we have you on and you are putting these notes out there all the time. So you're the director of research at the Government Accountability Institute. Tell people how they can follow this stuff so that they can learn and they can be smart and they can talk to their neighbors about it.

[Seamus Bruner]

Well, thank you so much. Tutor. I am at Seamus Bruner on all platforms, mostly on Twitter. Seamus is S E a M u s B r u N e r My colleague Peter Schweitzer. He's er Schweitzer. And we publish all of the receipts and [e-mail] that's thedrildown.com that's where Schweitzer hosts his podcast as well.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, thank you so much, Seamus Bruner. Thank you for being here today.

[Seamus Bruner]

Thanks, Tudor.

[Tudor Dixon]

And thank you all for joining us on the Tudor Dixon podcast. As always, you can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple PODC or wherever you get your podcasts. And you can watch the full video on Rumble or YouTubeutter Dixon. Join us next time and have a blessed day. This is an I heart podcast, guaranteed human.