The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill on Iran War, Maduro Capture & China Threat

Summary

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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Navy SEAL Rob O’Neill on Iran War, Maduro Capture & China Threat

Date: March 13, 2026
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Rob O’Neill, former Navy SEAL
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)

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Overview

This episode features Tudor Dixon in conversation with Rob O’Neill, the Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden, diving deeply into the United States' recent military operations, including the capture of Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro, the war with Iran, and the broader geopolitical implications involving China and Russia. Their discussion covers the military strategy behind these operations, the changing geopolitical landscape, threats from China and Iran, domestic destabilization, and the future of foreign and domestic security policy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Operation to Capture Nicolás Maduro

[01:48, 02:23]

• Tudor describes the operation as unusually smooth and wants to understand why.
• Rob O’Neill praises the professionalism and coordination of the mission, noting the combined efforts of Space Force, Delta Force, advanced air support, and possible use of direct energy weapons.
• O’Neill frames this as not just the takedown of a dictator, but a major geopolitical move with broader ramifications tied to China and Iran’s ambitions:
  • “That wasn’t just to get Maduro. That’s the geopolitical shift of the entire world... The big game is China. China taking Taiwan because of the chips, because of AI, and that’s World War 5 or World War 4 at least.” — Rob O’Neill [03:31]

Geopolitical Ramifications – Venezuela, Iran, and China

[04:24, 05:18]

• Tudor and O’Neill discuss Venezuela’s centrality to China’s plans, emphasizing China's partnership with Iran and moves across Latin America.
• Tudor expresses concern that disruptions in U.S. politics and groups like Code Pink might be influenced by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
• O’Neill dives into drug warfare, showing how China destabilizes the U.S.:
  • “They’ve been mad since the Opium wars...now they came here with fentanyl. They’re killing almost twice as many people a year than we lost in the Vietnam War. It’s been China the whole time.” — Rob O’Neill [05:23]

Iran’s Threat and Public Misconceptions

[07:07, 08:29]

• Tudor discusses shifting narratives about who is capable or unable to acquire IDs, linking it to broader manipulation.
• She points to how Iran’s nuclear capabilities have been underestimated, referencing past presidents’ concerns about Iran enriching uranium.
• Rob O’Neill stresses the need to take adversaries at their word:
  • “When the enemy tells me their plan, I believe that at faith value…The destabilization is what they want. They’re going to bomb their Sunni Arab neighbors because…Iran is technically Shia, even though they’re Persian…” — Rob O’Neill [08:29]
• Discussion on domestic consequences of open borders, mass migration, and chaos as tools for political power.

Patriotism, Military Service, and Cultural Shifts

[09:57, 10:28]

• Tudor is struck by O’Neill’s continued willingness to serve despite combat trauma.
• O’Neill draws a sharp distinction between Democratic and Republican attitudes toward patriotism and military service:
  • “Remember in the last Democratic Convention when they were trying to put up American flags and chant USA...it’s really hard to put up an American flag when you’re doing it with one hand because you’re holding your nose with the other.” — Rob O’Neill [10:28]
  • He reflects on his own experiences before the bin Laden raid:
    • “What a way to go. I’m with the guys I love. I’m not afraid. I’m prepared. I accept this. I’m ready...” — Rob O’Neill [11:35]

Social Change and Generational Responsibility

[13:56, 15:26]

• Tudor discusses the radicalization of formerly conservative communities due to changes in education and the undermining of patriotic and religious values.
• O’Neill argues destabilization begins with the promotion of identity politics and the dismantling of the nuclear family:
  • “That starts, believe it or not, with the hyphen...that’s the division.” — Rob O’Neill [15:26]
  • Contends that societal changes encourage investing maternal instincts into causes like illegal immigration, rather than children and family [16:20].

Security, Sleeper Cells, and Maintaining Stability

[17:12, 18:29]

• O’Neill underscores the importance of the nuclear family for safety and social cohesion, especially in the context of terrorist threats.
• Explains that knowing one’s community and first responders could be pivotal during attacks involving sleeper cells or disguised perpetrators.
  • “My first answer is the nuclear family. You take care of your family at home, and that also means you know your neighbors really well...” — Rob O’Neill [17:12]
• Cautions of continued infiltration and ideology imported via open borders.

Homegrown Terrorism: The Gracie Mansion Attack

[18:35, 19:38]

• Tudor asks about two U.S.-born, ISIS-radicalized youth attacking the New York mayor’s home.
• O’Neill’s blunt response about the mixing of radical ideologies and American society:
  • “You start throwing jihadis in the America soup, you’re gonna...in the America omelet, you’re gonna break some eggs.” — Rob O’Neill [19:10]
• Both decry a culture now apologizing for patriotism and disrespecting the American flag.

Media Bias and the Difficulty of Messaging

[21:09, 22:14]

• The media’s role in downplaying terrorism and promoting Democrat narratives is criticized.
• O’Neill suggests the media and elites are now so committed to bad positions that they can’t back down:
  • “They have to be all in now. They have got to back it all the time...It’s a self licking ice cream cone for sure.” — Rob O’Neill [22:14]

Winning with Iran: Military and Internal Strategy

[22:54, 23:34]

• O’Neill lays out that the key U.S. strategy was targeting Iran's leadership, nuclear capacity, and encouraging a rise from within via internal coups.
• U.S. bombing of Iran’s nuclear sites this summer precipitated further instability among their ruling elite and degraded Iran and Hezbollah's capabilities.
• By cutting off Chinese gas supply (from Venezuela and Iran), China’s capacity to invade Taiwan is delayed, according to O’Neill [24:50].

The Russia-China-Iran Axis & Western Hemisphere Moves

[26:26, 26:35]

• The goal is to keep these adversarial powers out of the Western hemisphere.
• Dixon and O’Neill discuss the significance of the Panama Canal, efforts to squeeze Cuba, isolate Mexico, and create new alliances outside of NATO.
• He foresees that with the decline of Chinese and Russian influence in the Americas, U.S. security will be better ensured [27:35].
• O’Neill notes the irony that Trump isn’t loved by the left despite inclusive figures being close to his administration:
  • “The highest ranking, closest to the White House, openly gay man. And you think the left would love him. But they’re proving it’s all politics. It’s not anything they exactly. Just when they stand power.” — Rob O’Neill [29:20]

Future of Cuba and Central/South America

[29:26, 29:54]

• Squeezing Cuba is about strangling the regime and catalyzing change from within, not direct invasion.
• O’Neill jokes about looking forward to buying property in Cuba post-regime [29:54].
• As for Venezuela, Trump’s plan is to bring in U.S. companies to rebuild, ensuring stability and serving as a bulwark against mass migration.

Middle Eastern Politics and the Abraham Accords

[32:26, 32:36]

• Dixon and O’Neill agree most Middle Eastern countries anticipated Iran's moves and have acted strategically.
• O’Neill observes ordinary people in troubled regions generally welcome American-led liberation from despotic leaders:
  • “Most people want to get on with their lives and raise their kids. The problem is we get the despots in charge of the corruption...people are actually good. The politicians and the lawyers are bad.” — Rob O’Neill [33:11]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “That wasn’t just to get Maduro. That’s the geopolitical shift of the entire world.” — Rob O’Neill [03:31]
• “They’ve been mad since the Opium wars...now they came here with fentanyl. They’re killing almost twice as many people a year than we lost in the Vietnam War.” — Rob O’Neill [05:23]
• “When the enemy tells me their plan, I believe that at faith value.” — Rob O’Neill [08:29]
• “My first answer is the nuclear family. You take care of your family at home…” — Rob O’Neill [17:12]
• “You start throwing jihadis in the America soup, you’re gonna...break some eggs.” — Rob O’Neill [19:10]
• “It's a self licking ice cream cone for sure.” — Rob O’Neill [22:14]
• “A safe South America is a good Central America…” — Rob O’Neill [31:19]
• “Most people want to get on with their lives and raise their kids. The problem is we get the despots in charge of the corruption…people are actually good. The politicians and the lawyers are bad.” — Rob O’Neill [33:11]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00-01:46: Introduction, episode context
• 01:48-04:24: Maduro capture operation, military analysis
• 04:24-07:07: China, Iran, Venezuela — global connections
• 07:07-09:57: Iran’s nuclear threat and U.S. political division
• 09:57-12:25: Patriotism, military service, and the culture wars
• 13:56-17:12: Education, generational values, identity politics
• 17:12-18:29: Sleeper cells, nuclear family, community resilience
• 18:35-19:38: Gracie Mansion terror attack and domestic radicalization
• 19:38-21:09: Respect for the flag, changing U.S. culture
• 21:09-22:14: Media bias, framing terrorists as activists
• 22:54-24:50: Defeating Iran: internal coup, economic strangulation, China deterrence
• 26:26-29:26: Russia-China-Iran axis, Panama Canal, Cuba, new alliances
• 29:54-32:26: South America, Middle East, rebuilding and security
• 32:26-33:37: Abraham Accords, hope for Middle East peace
• 33:47: Episode wrap-up

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Overall Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode, marked by a combative, patriotic tone, frames current events as a struggle to preserve American stability and prevent authoritarian adversaries from overturning world order. O’Neill's deep military insight adds gravitas, while Dixon’s questions keep the conversation anchored in tangible, recent events. The core theme is the necessity of American strength—military, moral, and cultural—in an increasingly contested world, coupled with warnings about internal and external threats undermining that strength.

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Transcript

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Robert O'Neill]

Thanks for having me. Tudor. It's great to be with you.

[Tudor Dixon]

You have done this before. I mean, when I've listened to you talk about your mission and the intelligence that went into the mission to take Osama bin Laden. And I just. I can't imagine the nerves and the overwhelming planning that goes into this. But I saw what we saw on the news, which I take with a grain of salt, but we saw what happened with Maduro, and it felt like that looked easy for our military, which I know it's not. So how does that happen? So how does that come off like that?

[Robert O'Neill]

I mean, that mission was incredible. I obviously wasn't involved in that. I was jealous when I found out about it, because that's. I mean, that's something that, well, I would reenlist for if I knew that was happening. But when it happened to just the. I couldn't. I mean, with the professional courtesy, jealousy, the pride, I felt I couldn't Smack the smile off my face for at least 48 hours watching what everyone did from Space Force right to Delta Force. The pilots going in all kinds of the diversions, everything from false insurances to hitting them from 60,000ft with stealth bombers and then going below 10,000 with conventional sort of jets to go supersonic, drop some, all kinds of stuff. Direct energy weapons possibly. And then, and then to top it all off, you got Delta Force running at you. Why people shot at them blows my mind. I mean the story of the pilots flight lead getting a medal of honor for getting hit with anti aircraft fire, which is insane. Flying the mission, returning them home, everything's per, I mean and it's just, it's a, it's, that wasn't just to get Maduro. That's, that's the geopolitical shift of the entire world. You're, you're. Because the big game is China. China taking Taiwan because of the chips, because of AI, and that's World War 5 or World War 4 at least. And so that's just not there because they're getting a lot of their fuel, gas, all that stuff from Venezuela, also Iran. So then there's the islands off of Venezuela that being used by Hezbollah, by Iran, by everyone from Russia to China. But it was, you know, Russian and Chinese air defense. We crushed them, prove we could crush them. Because we're dealing with the commander in chief who honestly doesn't really care about the midterms. I mean, yeah, he's going to push because he knows the Democrats are crazy so he needs Republicans in there. But he's, he's fighting this war right now for his grandchildren and his grandchildren's kids like this, this is a move to keep the world stable. Donald Trump cares about his legacy, cares about his family, Iran, through the negotiations that he tried and he's trying to negotiate with everyone. Basically put a thumb in his eye and said no, we're gonna keep enriching uranium, there's nothing you can do about it. So. And he gave him a chance. And now with Donald Trump, because he's not a real politician, he's gonna beat them until they quit. That's what's happening.

[Tudor Dixon]

So it's very interesting that you say that because so many of the things you just said I kind of want to pick apart because I don't think people connected Venezuela to way you just did. And we've talked about that before, that this was, this, this was a geopolitical move. China has connected with Iran, they've connected with Latin America, they have Ports there. They are ready to take over. They want to be the world leader. And they would be a very dark and evil world leader. And the. They, they saw weakness in the United States with Joe Biden and just in general, and I don't think we can even lighten it up to just Joe Biden because it is a disruption amongst our parties. Right now there are disruptors in the United States. You see these groups like Code Pink and these people that have a new flag every week and they're protesting and they have all the money to do that. These disruptors come from the ccp?

[Robert O'Neill]

Well, yeah, I mean, the CCP has been mad since the Opium wars. What's that, the 19th century, 18th century. I mean, they've been mad about that for a long, long time. When the west introduced opium, they, They've been like. Even in Vietnam, when heroin for GIs in Vietnam was like 5 cents on the dollar. Because China's pushing in there for the exact reason it happened, just to try to weaken the United States. And then they came here with fentanyl. They're doing with fentanyl at the border and they're killing almost twice as many people a year than we lost in the Vietnam War. It's been China the whole time. They're doing the fentanyl. They're doing everything they want, they want. They've told us before, we just don't listen. We dumbed down our schools because of the communists again. And this is a big push. We don't need Venezuela's oil, we don't need Iran's oil. They do mix nicely though, because it's the heavy sludge in Venezuela that they can't even be moved through pipes. But if you dilute it with Iranian oil, it works out nicely. Not that we need it, but you know, we want people not to have it. These are big moves, big pushes. And he just needs. Donald Trump knows in his. And the smart people he's put around him know it needs to happen before the midterms. I mean, Tudor, imagine if the Democrats take even the House. What's going to happen? Impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach. Nothing about the country, all about impeach, all about the Democrat party with their party. They love their party so much because with their party comes their power. With their power comes the corruption. With their corruption comes their personal money. It's really so easy if people don't yell at each other and argue on TikTok. If they take a step back and just look and like the way That I put it to people is how would you respond if no one's watching you, you know what's right and what's wrong. It's not hard now when the paid agitators on the left start. Everything from Boston was built by Somalis and crap like that in school. And if you, if you seriously take a step back, go line by line the ridiculous shit we're supposed to believe, it's nonsense. And then, and I've been, I'm not a victim, but I've been in a spot where if I tell the truth, I'll get in trouble because I offend a bunch of stupid people. That's basically where we're at.

[Tudor Dixon]

I mean, if you believe them, I can't vote. That's what they're saying today. Like women can't get IDs. It used to be minorities can't get IDs. Now they're going to not only offend minorities, but they're going to offend all the women too. So half the country is too stupid to go get an id. And, and they're legitimately winning people over with this argument that's is so dangerous to me. But you said something earlier that they're also winning people over with the argument that Iran was not a, was not at all a threat. That this is, oh, we've heard this for 47 years. But when they were in power, they were clearly stating they are a threat. Obama had even said, really? If they can enrich to 90% uranium, then they are, we, we are within minutes of having a nuclear bomb come at us from Iran. And they can reach Western or they can reach Eastern Europe. They're going to bomb the Middle East. And the Middle Eastern countries found out these past few weeks that they are not immune to Iran's attacks. They have decided to bomb everybody that they can reach. So now we know that there are no limits. If they can reach you with a ballistic missile, they absolutely will. And you are 100% right that they have never said they will stop enriching. And they have the, they have the mines and they have the, the centrifuges and they have the capabilities to do it.

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah, they certainly do. And they, I, it's just odd that we are at a spot where I'm a big believer when the enemy tells me their plan. I believe that at faith value. I mean, at worst you just prepare for something and you're ready for. Because even if you're prepared, it's usually something else that hits you. So it's, you know, you make a mistake here, don't concentrate on that, because over here, they're going to get you. And that's all that's happening. But there's nothing wrong with being prepared. But the destabilization is what they want. They're going to bomb their Sunni Arab neighbors because there's, you know, Iran is technically Shia, even though they're Persian and Islam's not their original religion. The destabilization everywhere, bringing in all the. I mean, when I think Minnesota in the winter, I definitely think East Africa. So let's ship millions of them there. This is all. And again, what does it come back to? Why are there so many mosques and Muslim cities being built in Texas? Turn them bloom. It's chaos. Why? The open border is chaos. Why? Because they can get the cheaters, the illegals to vote for the Democrats. That's all they care about. That's it. Party politics above anything. We're seeing Donald Trump, anything he goes up with. The Democrats, except for John Fetterman, are vehemently against. And it's. And they've got people so backwards on. Well, it's for defending democracy when they don't even know what democracy. They don't know. Constitutional republic, you have a representative for. I'm not gonna explain politics to you, and you know better than I do, but if they. You're only the level that prepared us, that got you there. And if the public school system makes us this dumb, that. I mean, I can't even talk people out of it.

[Tudor Dixon]

You said something that I can never imagine a Democrat saying. When we talked about the Maduro operation, we talked about going in and getting the Venezuelan dictator, you were like, I wanted to do that. I would reenlist to do that. And I thought that is incredible because of what you've been through and what you've seen. And I know you've seen really hard things, much harder things than I'll ever see in my life. And. And you still said, I would do that for my country. I would go back for my country. That is not something we hear on the left.

[Robert O'Neill]

Oh, no. Remember in the last Democratic Convention when they were trying to put up American flags and chant usa. And it's really hard to put up an American flag when you're doing it with one hand because you're holding your nose with the other. That's what Democrats think of the USA chant. But they try that stuff and it just doesn't quite work. And you get veterans, even in politics, Democrat Party, Mark Kelly, you can refuse unlawful orders, bullshit and he should get in trouble for that. That's nonsense. But on the other side, I wanna go because I wanna be with the guys to do what's right for the country, for my way of life, for my kids and their kids. And that's just the way we think. And here, I mean, here's a hot take no one ever brings up. When Barack Obama, a Democrat, was in charge of a no fail mission to get the number one terrorist probably in the history of the world in. He sent 23 conservatives. Let's be honest. He sent guys based on the most extreme merit, the most extreme level of no fail. They were all conservatives. We didn't have time for DEI at that point. We got to do this right. Send the guys that are here because they belong here. It's like. And again, that's just the truth. If I'm not going to say the roster of the guys. But we all had a lot in common and we all had the same views in common. And what comes with that. I remember talking about going after bin Laden. This is probably going to be it. But what a way to go. I'm with the guys I love. I'm not afraid. I'm prepared. I accept this. I'm ready. And then, and just on that mission I'm like, I said goodbye to my kids. My daughter that was just here was three at the time and I couldn't tell her we were going after bin Laden and I think I'm going to die. She just went and got a carry on, a hello Kitty carry on. Put an elephant, Mr. Elephant and a pillow in it and said take me on vacation when you get home as well as a three year old can. But we were so for this country, for what we did, for what happened on 9 11. I want to go, he's going to die. Even if I die. What a way. What an ending. And, and then just, and then. Now look at New York. We're having called a prayer in the mayor's office. You know what? New York forgot to never forget.

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Tudor Dixon]

You know, it's interesting because I was just back in my hometown, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, and I was asked to speak there recently. And I went back and I was asking people, you know, what are the politics of my town? Because I've watched my friends on social media that I went to high school with and they've become more and more liberal. And they said, oh, it's totally lost. It went just in the last few years, it went from fully red to fully blue. And I was thinking about this and I got up and when I spoke, I said, you know, I'm heartsick about this. And I think, how did it happen that we became these and, and it's not blue. It's not the blue from when I grew up. It's like these radical white privilege is everybody's. So all white people are bad. The, the liberal white woman who's ranting about everything. That is the, the liberalism that has overtaken my hometown. And I said, I wondered like this must have been us, because I it wasn't like this when I was a kid, so it must have been my generation. And I said, then I started thinking about high school and we had a class instead of American history, I took comparative religions. And I said, you know what? The one religion was that we didn't compare. We didn't compare Christianity at all. We learned all the other religions. We didn't compare. I said, so I've decided it's not my generation's fault, it's my parents generation's fault that went into the schools and started this. There was an active, an active Mission to go into our schools and liberalize the youth.

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah, that's. I mean, it comes with, again, the destabilization of the country. And that starts, believe it or not, with the hyphen. Look, watch when the hyphens start. When, you know, when Kathy Jones becomes Kathy Jones Smith. When that American becomes an Asian American, an African American. That's the division. It's simple. It's when you tell the woman, hey, you don't need a family, you need a career. You need to be a girl boss. And that's great. Go to happy hour, have a successful career. All of a sudden, when you're 55 with no kids, like it or not, with science, women are maternal and they have an instinct to love something. They don't have a kid to love. Now they gotta love something and they love it like a woman loves their kids. So the illegals become what they gotta die for. Seriously, this is what happens when you're watching it. And I wish you could. I mean, yeah, you're a girl boss. That's awesome. Just wait for the day, though, when you're buried by a stranger in an empty field. Here lies Catherine Jones Smith. She worked really hard, but it's not

[Tudor Dixon]

even that you're told now. I think it's gone to even a greater extreme because, you know, I come from the generation that watched Sex in the City and it was like, you know, get it, have a career and be your own woman. And you don't need a husband. You can be the guy that sleeps around. You can be just like that. But now it's, if you have a kid, it will ruin your life. I mean, now it's the next extreme. The messaging that I hear to young women today breaks my heart because I will tell you, I waited until I was 32 to have kids. And I remember coming home with my first daughter and sitting in the rocking chair with her, doing the math and going, what if I'm not rocking your kids? And thinking, I should have done this earlier. I was. I was married when I was 24. Why didn't I have kids earlier? You know, it was like, this is. This is what I'm meant to do. You realize it when you hold that baby in your arms.

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah, I. And I agree. And again, I. Before we started recording, I was saying, talking about how amazing mothers are and my wives. I love it. I can't compare myself to that. It's just a. It's kind of what I'm seeing. But when it gets the nuclear family torn apart because I Get asked about with sleeper cells. Now, what should we do to prepare? My first answer is the nuclear family. You take care of your family at home, and that also means you know your neighbors really well. You get to know your local first responders, the firefighters and the cops and your school boards and stuff like that. You know them because, I mean, to look further down the line in a tactical mind, when the hit comes, it's not going to be the initial hit that kills a lot of people. Well, it will the secondary and tertiary, because they're going to come dressed as first responders. If you know your first responders, it's not a problem. But if you see a bunch of fighting age males that look like they might be from Syria, here comes your second explosion. That's what ISIS is doing. And thank goodness they had four years of open borders to completely get thousands of them in here. I mean, right now we're at a point with some of the Iranians we kind of need to lean toward. Maybe they'll click in their heads like, look, the regime is falling. I'm in the States, I'm just going to live here maybe. But there are the hardliners, the 12ers, that know, I mean, that know once they blow themselves up fighting the infidels, they go to paradise. And if you notice, their paradise is a lot different from Christians. Like, we go there to be with Jesus in heaven, they go to a brothel.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right.

[Robert O'Neill]

All right, and those 72 innocent women, where did they come from? That's a pretty messed up religion if you ask me.

[Tudor Dixon]

Exactly. Well, so speaking of that though, what do you think about this attack on Gracie Mansion? We saw over this past weekend that these two young guys and their parents were immigrants here. They were, they were cleared as becoming American citizens. These kids were born here. They're American citizens. They somehow got radicalized by ISIS and they're trying to bomb the New York City mayor's office or home. And, and people I think are going, wait a minute, what is the purpose of going after him? Like, how does, how does that happen?

[Robert O'Neill]

Well, I mean, you start throwing jihadis in the, in the America soup, you're gonna. In the America omelet, you're gonna break some eggs. I guess what I' you're bringing these kids here? Just, we're gonna make it. An ISIS inspired American born jihadi through an improvised explosive device over a white liberal man, a beta male who's still sorry he's white and in New York and all are welcome. I mean, this can't make that up. Is this exactly what we said to never forget?

[Tudor Dixon]

Right, exactly, exactly. And that, I think is the thing that people are going, how did we get here? Where we are apologizing for being American? And you talked about the importance of the flag. And that is something that even as a kid, you know, we said the, the pledge every day. And there was never a time when I didn't think that the flag was sacred, that we honored the flag, that the flag had such a great meaning. And yet overheard in one of the Democrat campaigns recently, they put the flags up behind their candidate and someone said, oh, there's birds above the flag and they are pooping on the flag. And the, the staffer said, good.

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah, I'm not familiar with that, but it doesn't surprise me at all. It turned in when we started saying that the land was stolen and that the white men are oppressors. I mean, we started teaching that in the school. I mean, even see it in movies like Days of Confused, when they go out for the summer and the kids are worried about getting paddled by the upcoming seniors. You can hear the teacher in the movie and nothing to Hollywood. But just don't forget that when you're celebrating the 4th of July, it was taken to blah, blah, blah and the slavery and all. And then they started this a long time ago. And it's just the communists also playing the long game. They admitted they're gonna infiltrate our schools and our media and they're gonna infiltrate our politics. And they have, you see it that we have communists in office. We have Al Shabaab supporters, if not Al Shabaab themselves and Hamas in our Congress because we bring these people in, they don't assimilate, they're not legal. They still vote because Democrats want power. It's a repeating cycle. And I mean, it's almost comical if it wasn't so tragic.

[Tudor Dixon]

So how do you get the message across about the importance of this operation in Iran? I mean, when you, the media. We just had Abby Phillips on CNN refer to the man who threw the IED as. Or the young man who threw the IED as an activist and not a terrorist. I mean, this is an ISIS inspired terrorist. This is a terror attack. And she refers to him as an activist and goes after the Republicans. This is. The media has been totally co opted by the Democrat Party. They are, they are one in the same. I was saying the other day, we had one of our local reporters who had. There was a Democrat running for Senate and she said that she, she made a nasty comment about the Republican. He simply tweeted the quote and said her name. Nothing else. No story to go along with it. This is the Detroit News. That should have credibility as a real news source. And they're quoting Democrats attack on Republicans and that's it. And tweeting it out. I'm like, is this, like, is this an in kind donation? What is this?

[Robert O'Neill]

Well, this is what I think is a. They've been so ridiculous on so many points, they have to be all in now. They have got to back it all the time. I mean, even as far as. Think of the celebrities that have. Out of four kids, three are transgender. Guess what? You own that. It's mathematically impossible. But you are such a seeker of the approval of the moral class. You just did that and now you have to back it no matter what happens to the kids. And they're not going to be happy forever. You have to be pro trans because you did that. And they're just doing it with everything. They're, they're so all in on so many bad bets that they have. They have to keep up with it just to keep their power. It's a, it's a self licking ice cream cone for sure.

[Tudor Dixon]

So what is the future we on? When you look at the Iran situation, obviously you are more familiar with these kinds of operations than probably most of us who are listening to this podcast right now. So when you see this operation way different than Venezuela. We were told from the beginning that if we went into Iran it would be a different situation because the, the forces there are very deep. They have what, 130,000 officers there. They had a deep bench of people who could move in and continue to lead the mullahs. What is the strategy from your perspective on how you can actually win a war with Iran?

[Robert O'Neill]

Taking out the leadership like they did in their ability to enrich uranium. And then you needed to rise up from the, from the inside. It happened this summer when we bombed the nuclear sites and then the soft coup started. But they've been in there 47 years, so you need to get the infrastructure out. They're getting hit hard. The responses are the stockpiles and the ayatollahs they have left. And they're going to keep doing that because when you figure they're launching these missiles, they being Hezbollah, Iran and whomever else, they're not like we are right now in a studio or watching on television. They're getting hit with stuff and it's crappy life and they're thinking heaven, the afterlife. So they're launching what they have left. We're, we're in such a luxury. We claim we're poor, but we'll go out and spend $8 on a coffee as we're looking at our phone and get into our Escalade type stuff. So we sit here and watch it, we critique it. But this is real. We liked the 24 hour news cycle and instant gratification. You're not going to get it with this. It's going to end. Prices are going to go down on pretty much everything. The market's going to go up. And then you'll notice that Vladimir Putin's trying to get back to the negotiating table. That's because we also destroyed the factories that bring the drones in. And then China's there. I mean, people in Taiwan are happy. We've delayed that by a few years at the very least. And we're still going because that's the ultimate goal, is to stop China's aggression.

[Tudor Dixon]

How do you mean? We have delayed that because of their support for Iran and now this?

[Robert O'Neill]

No, just because they're going to need gas to invade an island and we took away their gas.

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Tudor Dixon]

So give us the whole geopolitical connection here with Russia, China and Iran and how this affects going forward.

[Robert O'Neill]

We're trying to keep the Chinese, the Russians and the Iranians. Well, not the Iranians so much, but they're proxies out of the Western hemisphere. That's why we're pushing for Greenland. It's a deterrent for a nuclear launch which God help us, I never want to see that taking their oil. I mean little things like China was taking the Panama Canal because of the crappy deal that Carter had to give it back. But you know, we gave it to BlackRock or they bought it, which is still whatever global policies right there. But it's not China. They're not able to come through both sides. We own both ends. Taking them just completely out of the. Taking their oil away, taking their drones away, taking their proxies away. You know, China hasn't done them any favors with the one child policy because everyone's having a mail now. They're not going to be able to help out their senior citizens. Not that they care. They're probably going to handle that in a way that Bill Gates was like. But this is a whole bag of cats that there's so much going on though. It's. It's almost easier with the whole you'll own nothing and be happy if people don't really know what's actually going on everywhere and just assume they'll be safe. It might be better, myself included.

[Tudor Dixon]

You brought up they want to be able to launch a nuclear weapon. It they had ports. China still has three ports in South America. That's coming really close to the United States. Not close enough yet, but they're getting to the point where they could launch at the United States. Is that an ongoing concern? Is that something that the American public has been very spoiled with, not considering an attack?

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah, the American public has been very spoiled with the Pacific and the Atlantic, but now it's here and South America. Yes, we've had intel there. We've had good intel there for a while. That's why Madurova so quick, the one right now we're squeezing is Cuba and Cuba's a about done. They're doing what they do just by choke points everywhere. They have no power, all that stuff too. So once we get Cuba, that's going to be good. Concentrate on but like getting Cuba and then isolating Mexico. This is a western hemisphere move and if you look at it, we're pushing the bad players out. I mean even to include NATO. They're going away too. We're proving that NATO is pretty much use it. We did it with Lloyds of London, with the uk. I don't know what they were thinking. But now we have a new insurance company that the US Navy is backing, which is great. And potentially making new alliances. I mean, we're not married to NATO. I don't know why the UN is still in New York. That's really good property. But I mean at the very least we can make it a homeless camp cuz they're already on the streets. Little things that we can do. But all these players that have been taking our money, all the fraud that we see, badmouthing America, living on American soil, taking our per diem political asylum, all that crap is going away. Because again, Donald Trump's not a politician, he's a Republican. Because you need to be a Republican or a Democrat to be a serious contender. But I mean it's a lot of big moves and a lot of, not a lot of time. But like guys like Scott Besson are in there, which is an odd one too. The highest ranking, closest to the White House. Openly gay man. And you think the left would love him. But they're proving it's all politics. It's not anything they exactly. Just when they stand power.

[Tudor Dixon]

So on Cuba, is that a diplomatic negotiation or is that also a military operation?

[Robert O'Neill]

No, it's just cutting them off till they don't have power. And again, a coup inside. You need to get them inside. We can't do the invade Iraq because you know, the president has a problem with the, the, the president of that country. And we'll just take them all down and you know, they'll rise up. No, you keep it in. We should have kept the bath party in structure and they can run it. We'll just do the same here, cut them off and then, you know, as soon as we can, I'm going to start buying land in Cuba. We're going to own that soon.

[Tudor Dixon]

Everybody I talked to is like, I can't wait until we can go to Cuba. And Cuba is, is normal again. Okay? So I just want to end this by going through what you just said about South America. Because we had, we had Central America and South America, we had president or vice president. Vice President Harris, when she was vice president, she, she became the border czar and she was supposed to actually go to the Central American and Latin American countries or South American countries and talk to them about this whole. Like she was going to find the root cause of the Problems. And I think that between Argentina and that change in leadership there and what we're seeing in Mexico, what you just mentioned in Mexico, obviously, Venezuela, that is really going toward the root cause of this mass immigration because people are trying to get away from these poor countries. And I heard so many Democrats for such a long time say, there's no way we can't go there. It's filled with crime. They need to be on their own. We'll just send them money instead of trying to make sure that they can actually recreate their industries. And now you have Donald Trump saying, we're gonna. I'm gonna send my guys there and they're gonna bring American companies in to rebuild the oil infrastructure in Venezuela. And the Democrats are mad, but this is a protectionary move.

[Robert O'Neill]

Yeah. I mean, if it's good for America, the Democrats are just against it. Like, if, if you wanna succeed in life, do exactly the opposite of what the New York Times tells you. I mean, and seriously, it's just an observation and if I'm wrong, I'm willing to listen. But to me it just seems, you know, take the bird's eye view of stuff. You can tell. And it's. Yeah. I mean, a safe South America is a good Central America with the. I mean, the drugs are coming in and out, but you gotta be honest, the cartels have been running security on the resorts that we've been going to. Anyway. There's a way to make things work. Not everything is as nice and cut and dry. I mean, I mean, look at Dubai, probably the safest place in the world. You don't want to know how they enforce it. They do. But people behave. When you can use lawful ways of handling the law, people will listen. But once you start giving them the victim mentality and just shoving money in their face, especially their governments. Like right now, we're saying we're sending $40 million a week to the Taliban just for the people. Yeah, the people are getting all of it. We're buying them weapons in training camps. They're coming back. Hamza bin Laden's running those. There's a lot of stuff going on people don't know, but we can and fight about the nonsense they put in the air.

[Tudor Dixon]

All right, I said that was my last question. But one last thing. Do you think that the Middle Eastern countries are shocked that Iran has come after them so hard?

[Robert O'Neill]

No, I think the Middle east countries are in complete control of what they're doing. And they don't mind a little bit of this, too. Every time they get hit in a spot that might have been pre planned. A lot of stuff is preplanned just to, you know, hit an empty base. We get leverage. A lot of behind the scenes stuff going on. Yeah, they're ready. They're ready for it. And they're also, you know, they're ready to build skyscrapers in the Gaza Strip and then make Iran great again.

[Tudor Dixon]

I think they are ready for that and they seem to be excited about what. I mean, this whole coming together with the Abraham Accords was very good foreshadowing for what this second administration is going to.

[Robert O'Neill]

What you'll notice, Tudor, is most the people love this. Like the people in Iran love this. The people who are under the thumb of of the terrorists of Hamas, they love this too. Some of the most welcoming people I've ever met has been at three in the morning in Ramadi in the wrong house. Most people want to get on with their lives and raise their kids. The problem is we get the despots in charge of the corruption. Like I keep circling back to, people are actually good. The politicians and the lawyers are bad.

[Tudor Dixon]

Boy, that seems to be true no matter where you are. True. Well, I appreciate it. It's been fascinating chatting with you. Robert o', Neill, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today.

[Robert O'Neill]

My pleasure. We can do it again anytime. Thank you, Tudor.

[Tudor Dixon]

Oh, awesome. Thank you. And thank you all for listening to the Tudor Dixon podcast. You can get it wherever you get Your podcast, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or you can watch on Rumble or YouTube @Tutor Dixon. But just listen when you can and have a blessed.