The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Pardon Me: The Bevelyn B. Williams Story

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Podcast Summary: The Tudor Dixon Podcast – "Pardon Me: The Bevalyn B. Williams Story"

Episode Title: The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Pardon Me: The Bevalyn B. Williams Story
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Bevalyn B. Williams
Release Date: August 11, 2025
Produced By: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Introduction to Bevalyn B. Williams

The episode opens with Bevalyn B. Williams joining Tudor Dixon to share her powerful and transformative journey. Bevalyn is recognized for her activism, particularly for her arrests protesting at abortion clinics under the Biden-Harris administration, leading to her eventual pardon. She is also set to release a compelling film titled "Pardon Me: The Bevalyn B. Williams Story" on August 15, 2025.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"This is a testimony to Christ and His leading." [02:06]

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2. Bevalyn's Personal Journey and Faith Transformation

Bevalyn delves into her turbulent past, highlighting the challenges she faced growing up and the pivotal moments that led her to activism. She shares her experiences with multiple abortions and the profound emotional trauma that ensued, which fueled her passion to advocate against abortion.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"It was probably one of the most traumatic things I've ever experienced in my life, but it was worth it. And if I could rewind time, I would do it again." [02:44]

Bevalyn on her first abortion:
"My first abortion was when I was 15. The decision brought immense depression and turmoil." [05:02]

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3. The Emotional and Psychological Impact of Abortion

Bevalyn candidly discusses the lasting effects of her abortions, emphasizing that despite its legalization, abortion remains a traumatic experience. She recounts flashbacks of her time at abortion clinics and how those experiences ultimately led her to become a vocal advocate against abortion.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"When you do something like that, there is trauma that comes behind it. No matter how much the law wants to make it normal, it's not normal because it's traumatic." [05:50]

On witnessing others at clinics:
"I didn't understand why they were there. They seemed angry. Now, I'm in front of those clinics as a witness, realizing God's support even when I was lost." [06:45]

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4. Societal and Cultural Critique

The conversation shifts to a broader critique of societal influences, particularly within minority communities. Bevalyn addresses how cultural pressures, media portrayals, and lack of protective upbringing contribute to the prevalence of abortions in these communities. She underscores the importance of understanding the root causes that lead women to abortion clinics.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"These clinics are making a massive amount of money off the fact that you have a young woman who has three abortions. Your story is not unusual." [13:05]

On cultural influences:
"Women are very insecure. They shape themselves to appease what they feel is pleasing to a man when they don't have a father to teach them who they are." [20:00]

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5. Legal Battles and Pardon

Bevalyn recounts her legal struggles, including her sentencing by Judge Jennifer Roshan and the subsequent pardon by former President Trump. She highlights the systemic challenges and racial biases she faced within the legal system, emphasizing the need for broader societal change.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"When I got pardoned, I had already been in appellate court waiting to appeal my case. Trump signed my pardon, but the vacating of the charges has been delayed spitefully." [25:42]

On her sentencing:
"I felt like a Negro out of line during my sentencing. She mocked me for my faith." [24:10]

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6. Upcoming Film: Bridging Gaps and Changing Perspectives

Bevalyn introduces her upcoming film, "Pardon Me: The Bevalyn B. Williams Story," which aims to bridge the understanding between pro-life advocates and women who have undergone abortions. She hopes the film will provide deeper insights into the personal struggles that lead women to choose abortion, fostering empathy and cultural renewal.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"My prayer for this movie is that I can bridge the gap between pro-lifers and give them a better insight into the backgrounds of people before they land at that clinic." [26:10]

On the movie's impact:
"Even if you are a strong Christian conservative who has always opposed abortion, you are going to have a different understanding of that choice after you watch this movie." [27:50]

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7. Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Bevalyn expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share her story and encourages listeners to watch her film to gain a comprehensive understanding of the emotional and societal factors surrounding abortion.

Bevalyn B. Williams:
"If she can be brought this way, watching my mom snort coke and be abusive, if I can come from that to this, you can do it too." [27:32]

Tudor Dixon:
"Thank you for having me, absolutely." [28:37]

The episode concludes with information on where to watch the film and further engage with Bevalyn's advocacy work.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Bevalyn B. Williams:
  "When you do something like that, there is trauma that comes behind it. No matter how much the law wants to make it normal, it's not normal because it's traumatic." [05:50]

• Bevalyn B. Williams:
  "These clinics are making a massive amount of money off the fact that you have a young woman who has three abortions. Your story is not unusual." [13:05]

• Bevalyn B. Williams:
  "I felt like a Negro out of line during my sentencing. She mocked me for my faith." [24:10]

• Bevalyn B. Williams:
  "My prayer for this movie is that I can bridge the gap between pro-lifers and give them a better insight into the backgrounds of people before they land at that clinic." [26:10]

• Bevalyn B. Williams:
  "If she can be brought this way, watching my mom snort coke and be abusive, if I can come from that to this, you can do it too." [27:32]

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Conclusion

This episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast offers a deeply personal and candid exploration of Bevalyn B. Williams' journey from experiencing trauma through multiple abortions to becoming a staunch advocate against abortion. Her story underscores the profound emotional impact of abortion, the societal and cultural forces at play, and the challenges within the legal system. Through her upcoming film, Bevalyn aims to foster understanding and empathy, bridging gaps between differing perspectives on abortion. This narrative not only highlights her resilience and faith but also calls for a broader conversation on the underlying issues contributing to the prevalence of abortions in minority communities.

Transcript

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Bevalyn B. Williams]

Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a treat for you today because you have all seen this kind of faith and culture battleground going on in our country right now and I'm sure a lot of you have heard the story of Bevelin B. Williams. She is the woman who was arrested for protesting at one of the abortion clinics and we get to have her on today so that we can hear her story. She was actually put in jail by the Biden Harris administration and, and pardoned. And you have a new movie and there's just this great stuff going on which is a testimony to Christ and in his leading. So tell us your story and thank you for being here.

[Tudor Dixon]

Hi. Thank you for having me and thank you for giving me an opportunity to just share. I mean, it's a surreal story and I just, I thank God that I made it through that. It was probably one of the most traumatic things I've ever experienced in my life, but it was worth it. And if I go rewind time, I do it again. So I can't start from the super duper beginning, but I can at least say I could start from like 2019.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

Well, let's, let's talk about really quick. You. I wanted to have you on today because you do have a film coming out about it and that is extremely exciting. It's called, pardon me, the Bevelin B. Williams Story. So that's going to be coming out on August 15th. And I just want to say that as I was preparing for this podcast and reading your story, I was excited because I think that this is the behind the scenes story of your life, is the story that people don't know. They see the images on tv. They see the story of, okay, you're going into jail, you have a little girl, you have a husband that's waiting outside. But the journey that got you there, to me, the journey of faith and how God worked in your life is so incredibly powerful, is something that I think young people need to hear. Because when you were talking, I know you had that long testimony that you have on the website out there, but when you were talking about what you thought growing up, that was the most impactful part to me because you said you had a life that was very challenging. And then you were told by your dad that guys only want one thing and it shaped sort of how you saw the world and then God turned that around. That, to me is amazing. So tell us a little bit about that.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right, so you want to go all the way back to when I was a kid.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

I mean, I kind of think that without hearing how you have gone through this yourself. I mean, you've had abortions. And that to me is incredibly powerful because I think so. I've talked to so many women who have had an abortion and felt like I don't have value now. But look at what that has done in your life to create a warrior.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right? Okay. I love that. Actually, I think that's amazing because, well, what I'll say is this in 2019, when Governor Cuomo had legalized abortion, that's when I really decided to. And I'm saying this for a reason. That's when I really decided. You know, it's an issue and I need to address it. But a lot of the circlebacks of my childhood happened from me being obedient to that moment. And what I can say is my first abortion was when I was 15. Okay. My dad at the time, I think he was trying to protect me. I don't think he understood the fullness of what it means to get an abortion. And I don't think I was or he was prepared for the depression. And just like the turmoil that comes with making such a big decision like that to remove a kid out of your womb, when you do something like that, there is trauma that comes behind it. No matter how much the law wants to make it normal, it's not normal because it's traumatic. So now while I'm in front of the abortion clinics and I'm preaching and I got all this rah rah in me, I remember getting a flashback of the day I had my first abortion. And I remember those people were in front of that clinic. I didn't understand why they were there. They seemed angry. And I was told to look down and not look at them. And fast forward. Here I am in 2019 doing the exact same thing they were doing, but the heart was, oh my God, I'm a witness. Like, God was there for me even when I was lost and I didn't know what I was doing. And I was just so oblivious to all the different facets of demonic forces around that I'm just falling into because I wasn't protected. I can say I know what it's like to be a child that's not protected. And I have a three year old. So I am such a guardian over her and me and my husband, both because he has felt like he wasn't protected as well. You want to guard. You want to be a guard to a child's spiritual journey. You want to be a guard to their personality. You want to be a guard to everything that God has, has for them. Because if you don't, you're left vulnerable, you're left feeling insignificant. You might end up having sex at an early age because you don't feel that connection with your father. Or you may become a doormat because of the abuse or mental abuse you get from your mother or the manipulation. So if those things aren't protected, you're going to end up at an abortion clinic. That's just the reality, you know. And so I lived it. And now here I am being delivered, saved, and now doing it. And I'm realizing, wow, oh my gosh, if someone like me could be in that position and that gives really honestly no excuse to any other woman in this world, you could end up growing up like a statistic, like me having three abortions. Not one, not two, three. But still, at some point my eyes being opened and willing to just be a voice because I've been there.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

And I think that is a very key point that you just made. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.

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[Bevalyn B. Williams]

When we talk about abortion in this country, when conservatives or people of faith talk about abortions, we have said it. You have to understand this is not just the terrible statistic. These are women who are convinced to have abortion after abortion, after abortion. And these clinics are making a massive amount of money off of the fact that you have a young woman who has three abortions. Your story is not unusual. That's the, I think that's the tragedy here. And, and you knew that. You knew that, that you realized this is a sad situation and somebody guided you through that. And here you are. God uses people, says this is, this tragedy will not go unseen and, and unchanged. You are now the person speaking your testimony into other people's lives and to change that.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right? Right. You know, I will say this. I never got so caught up in the things that I was doing wrong that I thought that they were right. Like, I'm, I'm a very real person. Okay? And number one for me is being real with self. Biggest thing in the world. If you don't know how to be real with self, you're going to have a hard time in life. Because if you can't come to a conclusion with yourself about certain things you're doing, the world is unfortunately going to come to a conclusion for you. And that's the last thing you want. Right?

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

So that was kind of the warning you got, was like, you're going to end up dead if you keep living this way.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right? Right. But it was easy for me to receive because I never thought abortion was okay. I never thought okay because it's legal, it's okay, and it's normal. So even in my sin, you know what I'm saying, if I'm out with my friends and we drinking and we smoking and I'm having sex with men that I am not married to, I'm clearly not walking a Christian walk. I'm clearly not walking a holy Walk. So I never in my mind was like, oh, well, it's legal, so I'm doing what's the right thing. No, I was aware that I was living wrong. So when that woman came to me and said to me, if you don't change, you're going to die, I knew where I was going. I knew that if I died in this state that I am, she didn't have to tell me. I knew I was going to hell. I knew that. So it was so easy for me to say, you know what? Let me go ahead and straighten up, because I know I'm wrong. She's telling me, she's confirming what's already known. I believe we live in a society today where because of social media and, and because of the way people talk and people like to talk in circles rather than just get straight to the point. Everything seems to be these circles. Nothing's never just black and white no more. Everything's great. And because of that gray, there's no longer platform to just be real. Yes, you're young, you want to live, you want to have fun, but the reality is it's wrong. It's wrong, right? And so that's what has really pivoted my faith and it's pivoted me to be the woman that I am today. Because I never allowed the enemy to get me so deceived that I'm just now living a lot.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

So. So you changed your life. Kind of like it was like a 180 from where you were, because you, you were on that path of partying and having sex with multiple different men. And you had, you had three abortions in that time frame. And, and I think what you said about the effect of the abortion is probably the most powerful testimony because I don't think a lot of people are willing to say. Some have, some people have come out and said, boy, this really emotionally damaged me. And that's the thing. In this world, you talk about the black and white and the gray area. Well, the gray area, I mean, I think a lot of times people are too black and white. It's either abortion is good, abortion is bad. And the gray area is that place where you say, you know what? I had an abortion and there was a lot of pain that came along with it. And it's not a welcome comment to. I mean, the left certainly is not going to allow you to come out and say there was pain that came along with that. And it is something that I think that we have to face the reality that this is happening in minority communities at higher rates than it's happening in other communities. And that means that that pain is traveling through communities and going unnoticed and going un uncounseled. And that, to me, is a devastating situation.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right. I mean, I look at it like this. When it comes to the black community and even other minority communities, the chunk of abortions that we take up is not normal. Right. But a lot of times I find we're looking at abortion. And I mean, listen, I'm the one who stood out for an abortion clinics. Right? We look at abortion as an issue, but for me, it's like, why? And that's the part I'm getting to. People knew me as this person standing in front of an abortion clinic. But now how did I get there? Why was I there three times? What's the. The. The. There's a bridge that landed me to this place. And it's like this unspoken thing we're not talking about.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

Totally. You're so right. But that, See, that's. That's what we always do. We focus on one part of. We focus on the after. How did you get there?

[Tudor Dixon]

Right, right. So now let's talk about the music. Okay. Let's talk about the women. Nowadays, I. And this is just from personal experience. I know women in my culture, and I'm sure it's in other cultures too, But I'm gonna speak specifically on mine. They do not know how to be beautiful. All they know is sex appeal. Everything is. Wow, that's a powerful statement. And if it's not sex, it's violence. Right. Once upon a time. And Charleston White said this. People think he's crazy, and I think he's a trick. But sometimes he dropped jewels that be like, you know what? All right, I gotta take that. He said, you know, there was a time where women were beautiful when they came outside. Even if you were a bunch of men thugs, you would straighten up real quick. You see a lady, you would treat a woman like a lady. It's as if that culture is gone. Now I'm on social media. I watch women and men fighting like cats and dogs in the streets. And women are outside, butts hanging out, boobs out in a dude's face. Like, it's like. It's chaos to the point that the femininity and the lady that God called women to be, you don't see it like that. And then the other extreme is you're so religious, you walk around with a plastic bag on because you're holy. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, there's no clarity there, you know? So now sex appeal is what's more important, right? In hip hop, it's all about sex. It's all about these things that. I said it to my cousin. I was talking to him and I was like. He was like, you know, sometimes women want to do it just like men. I said, well, let me explain something to you. Women are very insecure. Women will shape themselves to appease what they feel is pleasing to a man when they don't have a man to tell them who they are, when they don't have a father to teach them who they are, right? So if I don't have a daddy in the house, and I don't even know how to communicate with the man outside of sexual encounters, right? How am I gonna know, you know, if I hear a hip hop song? And he said, you know, she let me hit it on the first night. It was fire. And he's bragging about it like it's a good thing. This young girl's gonna listen to this music and think, oh, okay, well, if I let him get it on the first night, then, you know, he gonna think I'm lit. If I do it like this, he gonna do, oh, she. She. Booty type, big boobs, big waist, small. Booty big. So now guess what's happening. Bbls lips. Done. It's just. It's so much that is leading towards the abortion clinic, the chop shop. It's gone.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

And so young. These girls are being pushed on. I mean, I see it with. I have four daughters, so I see it with even my daughter. We. They go to a Christian school in a small town in Michigan. And at. At graduation, eighth grade, graduation, even this. Even at the stores that are geared toward middle schoolers, this. The dresses are so short. Everything is sexy. Like you said, she was the only girl that wore a long dress. And I said. And I said to her, I had parents come up to me and say, hey, thank you. And I said, she chose the dress. And she said, mom, the next day at school, the teacher said, thank you for dressing like that. And it's hard because they have. It's pushed on them constantly. Sex appeal, sex appeal, sex appeal. And the. Like you said, the lip injections, the change your face, change who you are, you are not good enough. God didn't make you the way you should be. You have to improve on that.

[Tudor Dixon]

And.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

And that, like, your eyes were open to this. And that's when you became the person on the other side and that. And I think that's where the movie picks up, right? Is like, you're on the other side. And then suddenly it's interesting because it seems like the pro woman group of politicians in the country, they suddenly decided that pro life is not pro woman and you were arrested.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right. I think what the movie displays is not just a story or a testimony of being a Christian and being bold. It also exposes real racism. It really does. I remember saying to the judge that I felt like a Negro out of line during my sentencing. And I felt like I told the judge, I said, you know, if I was half naked and I was jumping around twirling and shaking my behind, you guys would applaud me, you would celebrate me. But because I am standing here with my husband and my baby and I am standing in the gap for a community who has been led astray by the deceiver, you guys are wanting to shut me up. And her response to me was throwing me in jail for three and a half years. And by the grace of God, Trump signed my pardon. So the movie shows a person who was a statistic, who God opened their eyes to see and gave them the courage to stand on their eyes being open and seeing the truth. But then at the same time, because of that, watching a system come down on them so heavy and giving them the fullness of what they could give them without any remorse, the ruthlessness of it, you know. And so for me, it's like this story is going to expose so much the judge. I'm going to give you intel that I haven't spoken on any interview yet, but I'm going to give it to you, okay? When I got pardoned, I had already been in appellate court waiting for me to appeal my case. And then Trump pardoned me. And Trump becoming president, he basically took over everything. He took over the FBI, anything federal, he basically cleared it out with his people. So now my lawyer had requested that my charges be vacated. I'm pardoned. But really, these are beefed up. These are silly charges. This needs to be vacated. The government agreed to vacate. And so then after they signed it, they sent it up to appellate court. And because the government agreed to it, appellate couldn't go rogue on what the government is agreeing to, since they were the ones who initiated the charges under Biden administration. So the appellant court then was like, all right, listen, we're gonna go ahead and sign off for her and we're gonna vacate these charges. And now the very judge Jennifer Roshan, who sentenced me to 41 months and mocked me for my faith. She told me, she looked me in my face and she said, I know you have a beautiful 3 year old daughter and I know you're a stay at home mom, but it seems like you have a lot of support because of all of these letters that came in for you. So I feel like she'll be fine. This was her response to me before she sentenced me. And it's in the movie. Okay. But what's not in the movie is that the case was vacated by appellate court and she's supposed to sign so that I can travel. Because even though you're pardoned, you still are not able to travel to London with a federal felony and you're not able to travel to Canada. Those things have to be vacated as if it never happened. It has been over a month and a half. She has not signed it.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

Wow.

[Tudor Dixon]

So she has chosen. And it's, it's, at this point, it's spiteful delay. But to not even respect the court higher than her to go ahead and sign off on the vacated charges, this is how spiteful this is.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

Well, coming from someone who's experienced what that is. So, so that's what I think that's the important part of this movie. And the movie is going to be out in theaters on August 15th, so. And that's across the country, right?

[Tudor Dixon]

Right, that's across. So we are waiting now to hear back from AMC prayers up that they will release it. They played Unplanned. Okay. AMC was the only theater that played unplanned. So I'm expecting, I'm hoping and praying they will say yes to us. We also have mom and pop theaters that are releasing us. But also if AMC does, that will kind of make it a lot easier for those who don't know any mom and pop theaters in the area. So we'll know that this week, but definitely on the 15th it is coming out. And we're just excited you guys to go and see the. Because I really, my prayer for this movie is that I can bridge the gap between pro lifers who obviously are pro life and don't want to see children murdered. But also I want to give them a better insight into the background of people before they land at that clinic, what they go through. So we can bridge this gap of cultural understanding as well as cultural renewal. Right. We want to understand the past. Right. But we want to also renew the future. And I want to be that girl that these young women see, whether they're black, white, Latino, doesn't matter. That, wow. If she can be brought this way, right? Watching my mom snort coke and be abusive and different men in the house, if I can come from that to this, you can do it too.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

And also just an understanding of that. When I was campaigning, I had people say to me, you know, it doesn't matter how many times you visit our community, unless there are people around you that have lived, whether it's in southeast Michigan or southwest Michigan or Northern Michigan, unless you have people around you, if you haven't lived it, you cannot really understand it. And I think that's true. And that's why watching it and getting and having this recreation in a movie, movies are so important. They tell stories. So many people learn history and stories through storytelling. And that's movies. Movies are storytelling. That's the importance of pardon me. And I want people to know that you are going to, even if you are a strong Christian conservative who has always opposed abortion, you are going to have a different understanding of that choice after you watch this movie.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right? Amen.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

I am so grateful you came on today. Bevalyn B. Williams, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast.

[Tudor Dixon]

Thank you for having me, absolutely.

[Bevalyn B. Williams]

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[Tudor Dixon]

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