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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Political Violence, DEI Rebranding, and the Campus Free Speech Crisis
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. We're excited today because we have a reporter from Campus Reform. Her name is Emily Sturge, and she has been reporting on everything that's going on in campuses. Obviously, we know that there's a lot. We've seen a lot of indoctrination on our college campuses, but I think in the wake of what we saw in. In Utah and what happened with Charlie Kirk, we're keeping a closer eye on this. So, Emily, thank you so much for joining me today.
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Emily Sturge
That's great to be with you. We have a lot to get into.
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Tudor Dixon
We do, Absolutely. And first, I want to talk about this group that had the NERF guns on college campuses and the plan for that. Can you explain a little bit about that?
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Emily Sturge
Absolutely. So in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, I think everybody in this country can agree that there is a political violence problem, particularly among Generation Z. And it goes right back to our college campuses. It goes right back to social media. But really, our higher education system has normalized this idea of political violence. And I've been reporting on professors celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. And then also this instance at the University of Washington, a leftist student group there planned and advertised an event where it was set up like a carnival game, and they wanted to have dartboards of political figures and then practice shooting them with Nerf guns. This is just a couple weeks after Charlie Kirk's assassination. I have no words. It's completely tone deaf, out of touch, violent, divisive, all of the above. The university advertised this event on their.
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Tudor Dixon
Website, and then the university actually advertised this event.
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Emily Sturge
It was on their events webpage on their website. We found it. We took screenshots. The university did take it down. And then I've been trying to get in contact with members of the university faculty there, and the ultimate response that I've gotten is they say that it doesn't align with their values, but they did allow it to be published on their website. Now, I don't believe that the event took place. I think the students realized that they were really setting themselves up for disaster by holding an event like this. So the university says that no NERF guns were brought to campus, but it's the fact that somebody approved this event. It made its way to the university website, and students are comfortable promoting events like this on campus because their professors have emboldened them with such Violent and divisive rhetoric taking place in the classroom. Students are okay with bringing that violence and divisiveness to the campus quad, too.
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Tudor Dixon
I have heard so many stories from people since we experienced this assassination, which is shocking to me because our kids have never seen this. We've never seen this in our lifetime. We have students on a university campus who witnessed the assassination of a political figure, and you have professors who are cheering it on. And to think that that would have happened two weeks after Charlie's death, that they would, a university would actually promote the act of shooting a political figure.
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Emily Sturge
In the face, it's unbelievable. But it doesn't shock me at all. I've also reported multiple professors who have made comments in the classroom, some celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. A UPenn professor celebrated his death, called him the head of Trump's Hitler Youth at Ohio State University. They have a medical center there, and a respiratory therapist there called Charlie Kirk a waste of oxygen. How ironic. And then said that Charlie Kirk might be worth something to the vultures. That's the rhetoric coming from university professors. They are spreading that in their classrooms. They're spreading that on social media. They're emboldening students to carry on that similar rhetoric with carnival games, like at the University of Washington where students plan to shoot political figures with Nerf guns. So it's not shocking. And then I think back to when we saw the attempted assassination of the President. I also reported some of the divisive rhetoric from professors on that, too. Professors that were actually upset that the attempted assassin, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was not successful.
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Tudor Dixon
You know, I think as I, as I listen to this and I see these words that you talked about. The University of Pennsylvania saying that he was the head of Trump's Hitler Youth. The University of South Dakota saying he was a hate spreading Nazi. Ohio State, as you said, calling him a waste of oxygen. As I read all of these and I see what they're, they're saying out there, I also think about how the left has indoctrinated students into thinking, if you say something, then you are dangero. If you, if you speak in a certain way, then you are violent. And that has created this narrative of if speech is violence, then you can go after those people with violence. The same. We've talked about this on the podcast, but here it is a totally different thing. When you hear about professors in the classroom saying things like, the head of Trump's Hitler Youth, I mean, that was a genocide. And they're calling him that in the classroom, that, that allows Students to have a totally different view of how they deal with things like this.
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Emily Sturge
So professors in the classroom are using this word constantly. Fascism. Students feel emboldened to promote violence on their campuses because they're hearing that from their professors. I think back to. We reported a story of campus reform a while ago where RAs in dorms were actually. They were remarking Trump supporters as dangerous, and they were providing directives to students saying that, you know, having Trump supporters and dorms having Trump flags is something that's dangerous, something that we need to watch out for. That's how our higher education system has treated conservatives for so many years. So it's not surprising that now we're seeing professors that are promoting such violent rhetoric in the wake of such a violent assassination that's really, really impacting young people. Young people are mourning Charlie Kirk's assassination, and professors are just tone deaf to it and actually promoting violence.
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah. I want to actually share a clip that Charlie shared just weeks before his death. I mean, I think it was the middle of July when he shared this. It's from Belmont University. And the reason I want to share it is that they recently fired a professor for calling Charlie Kirk an amplifier of fascism. And I just wonder if there's a little bit. After Charlie shared this about the university, I just wonder if there's a little bit more scrutiny there, which I appreciate. I have to say that the universities that saw this and they said, we've got to get rid of this. We've got to make sure these people are no longer employed on our campus. That's important because you have people who are teaching our youth, and you have too many universities today that look the other way or they're actually promoting this. I think Belmont's one of them who has been under the microscope ever since Charlie posted this. It's a little bit long, but I want people to be able to hear what's happening behind the scenes at the university. And just to set this up, this was a group in the university that was promoting DEI and also gets into some depth about what that means for illegal aliens at the university. So here, we'll play it for you.
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Belmont University Staff Member
We're always going to keep doing what we're doing. The work never stops. We just change on how we talk about it. Obviously, you can tell I'm very passionate about stuff like this. We always try to just adapt to what's happening around us, but that doesn't mean, like, what we're focusing on completely stops. We definitely have to navigate very carefully and just cautiously just because we just don't ever know. Especially with like the ICE raids that are happening in the city that impacts our campus. We do have undocumented students here. Yeah. Oh yeah. We don't communicate to anybody externally who's undocumented and who is. And so I guess we know who it is. Faculty don't really know. How could they? Unless it's indicated in the system somewhere. We have a office just dedicated for like student, international students. We try to create as an inclusive space as possible here at Belmont. No, we're not going to be out in the news doing all these things. This is how we stand and this is what we stand by. No, we're not going to make it any outward statements. However, the work, the initiatives, things that are happening on campus, that's how we show how inclusive we're being. Even with us being a private school, like we do get some, get some heat on it. The Hub will be your point of contact to really just understand how the landscape looks at Belmont. But also how can you be involved in those things without like the Fed running in here? We are doing the work. We just may not be as loud as other people are about is the way. Because if you're navigating in the shadows like nobody will. Nobody's paying attention to Belmont.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, after Charlie shared that a lot of people were paying attention to Belmont. How common is this story that universities are? I mean, he literally says, we don't want the feds running in here. They know they're doing something that is illegal and they're hiding people on the campus. To me, it's shocking. It's stunning.
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Emily Sturge
Well, first off, we've seen dozens of these videos we've been reporting at Campus Reform, these undercover videos where faculty members are completely exposing themselves and they're completely exposing the universities. As we've seen state and federal laws try to remove DEI from our classrooms, remove DEI programming, remove taxpayer funded DEI on our campuses. Now we're seeing faculty members like the one in that video instead choose to say that they're still promoting it, but every, everything sort of under the table. And I've been reporting what I like to call the great DEI rebrand, where DEI is still very much pervasive in our courses, throughout lectures, in the university classroom, throughout even admissions. And universities are just finding a way to cover it up because of course they want to protect their state and federal funding. We've seen really positive changes from the Trump administration now saying that universities need to report admissions data. Hopefully that will remove some of the, the under The t diversity, equity and inclusion within college admissions. But we still see applications for college admissions where they're asking students questions and they're posed in a way where they want students to commit an allegiance to leftism, to diversity, equity and inclusion. So the more we see of these videos exposing what's going on behind the scenes, the more we report on it, bring attention to it, I think we're headed in the right direction. And I give props. People like Charlie Kirk sharing these videos on social media. Of course, Charlie Kirk had a great following. He had young conservatives rallying behind him. So he brought attention to things like this happening on university campuses, brought them to light.
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Tudor Dixon
And that was so important that people were actually hearing what was truly happening on college campuses. And as you pointed out, he did have a huge platform to be able to share that. And that's why I think it's important for us to continue to talk about these things. And what campus reform is doing is so important. Because as we hear that these universities that are funded with our taxpayer dollars are going against federal law, are creating what they're saying are safe spaces for illegal aliens, that's shocking to me. We see Chicago universities, as you see the Trump administration, saying, we're thinking of moving into Chicago and trying to keep people safe. They're saying, well, we're not going to allow anybody on our university campuses. We're going to protect the illegal aliens on our university campuses from federal enforcement. They're also saying that they're going to have safe spaces and prior illegals over students, that over student safety, over American students. I mean, this is shocking stuff. When I look back and, and, and think about those comments from the faculty that are saying these things about Charlie Kirk. Here is an institution that we know universities historically have said there are two sides to every story. We want you to think critically. Critical thinking is gone right now. This is indoctrination. This is follow us at all costs, even over your own safety. We will prioritize, prioritize people who are not Americans. And don't you dare think about what that means.
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Emily Sturge
Absolutely. And let's go back to all of these resources for illegal immigrant students on university campuses. Everything that you can think of. Free legal services, deportation, defense, scholarships, career services, things like that. I've been reporting on universities across the country and we've actually exposed at campus reform over 40 universities that have what they call sanctuary campus policies where they refuse to protect students, but they vow to protect lawbreakers, and they won't allow federal authorities to set foot on their campus. They won't allow immigration agents onto campus. They won't allow them into campus buildings. They're also vowing to protect the student personal information. They won't hand that over to authorities. So universities are so set in their ways, they want to protect these lawbreakers. They want to make universities safe spaces for criminals. But you know what? There are so many young women on these campuses. There are so many students that are vulnerable. They don't need to be in a place surrounded by criminals. I think back to Lake and Riley and I certainly don't think that her parents would think that it would be a great idea. These campus sanctuary policies. Campuses need to protect students. They also need to protect conservative speakers. We just saw the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That opens up a whole, a whole bigger conversation about campus safety policies. And I, I've been reporting how campuses have been, like I said, prioritizing the safety of criminals instead of students. I also, I'm here in Washington D.C. i also see the campuses here like American University, George Washington University, Georgetown, those cops, not all of them have guns. They're not armed to handle criminals on campus, but they're trained in diversity, equity and inclusion. We know that DEI is not going to stop a criminal when a criminal sets foot on campus. Students need to be protected. We need to see across this nation in red states and blue states, we need to see campus safety policies that actually prioritize safety so that we can prevent future tragedies like Blake and Riley's event or Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
Campuses are protecting the message now. They're protecting the liberal, far left progressive message rather than protecting the students. And they're actually not setting students up for success. That's the thing that is so shocking to me as I hear the amount effort that goes into protecting the message. Again, you're not teaching kids to think critically on either side of a message, but by not teaching students that there are two sides of an argument, that you may have things in your life that are wrong, that you may have to make corrections in your thought process. It hasn't set Gen Z up to be good workers either. That's something that we're finding out, which I. I find very interesting because I've experienced this myself with my own Gen Z workers. Gen Z is now. Now we're finding in studies that they need. 71% of managers are saying they need praise just to meet basic expectations at work. It goes to me, it goes all back to this, this situation where you don't have critical thinking. You don't have to think about whether or not you've done something well. You have to constantly be told you're on board with us, and we're so thrilled with anything you do.
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Emily Sturge
The Gen Z workplace trends that we're seeing are directly being taken from university campuses into corporate America. And we've reported 77% of Gen Z workers say that they've brought a parent to a job interview.
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Tudor Dixon
That's crazy to me.
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Emily Sturge
It's, it's crazy. But students feel emboldened to show this behavior once they become adults in the workforce because they've been infantilized on their college campuses. And we've also reported no one should.
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Tudor Dixon
Get hired if they bring their parent. I mean, this has to end. That should be the, the kick in the butt these kids need. You bring your parents, you're done. You're never getting a job. Who would bring their parents to a job interview? I mean, I'm just stunned right now because I think I would be so humiliated to have my mom or dad go with me to a job.
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Emily Sturge
What happened there is a silver lining. It's not all of us. Many of us are trying to defy those stereotypes. It's very concerning. I'm not sure if those students are actually getting hired if they bring a parent to a job.
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Tudor Dixon
What are these parents? I'm sorry, I cannot get past this. Like, if my kids said, come with me to my job interview, I would look at them and go, are you out of your mind? I would never hire you if I came with you.
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Emily Sturge
Where?
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Tudor Dixon
Why would the parents go?
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Emily Sturge
It's a great point. I'm not a parent, so I can't speak on that. But yes, this is a parenting problem. This is a Gen Z problem, it also is an education problem. When Gen Z is on their college campuses they're faced with these self care activities that infantilize them. I reported that when Kamala Harris lost the election in November, Georgetown University gave students it's milk and cookies and Legos crayons during exam week in the spring. Indiana University gave students Care Bears to cope with exam season. And so when students are faced with hard things on university campuses they get milk and cookies and legos and Care Bears. And so when they graduate into the workforce it's not shocking to see that they're showing behaviors like bringing a parent to a job interview. But I think it's time for a wake up call. Gen Z needs to realize that we have a legitimate problem amongst our generation. I think that this is a perfect time to course correct to make this a turning point and see that look, there's also a massive hiring crisis happening among my generation. Just 12% of Gen Zers graduate college with a job secured. That's a very small percentage of my generation. And so, so Gen Z can't get jobs. They're blaming it on the workforce but really I think it might go back to a behavioral problem and a lack of professionalism, a lack of preparedness and job interview interviews and maybe bring a. Bringing a parent isn't the best idea.
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Tudor Dixon
I mean are they bringing a blanket and a bottle to the job interview too? This is, I mean a Care Bear. You've got to have milk and cookies. I am totally stunned because it's just stunning to me the difference. I feel like I didn't go to school that long ago, but I guess I did that that would never have happened. It makes me question how much credit card debt do these kids have? And I say that because if you think you are entitled to everything and you come out of school and you don't have money, how, how do you. These kids are getting Starbucks every day. Everybody I know that is from the millennial and the Gen Z generation, they're all going on these phenomenal vacations. Like how are they affording these vacations? I didn't, I couldn't do this when I was young and I had a pretty. We couldn't go on vacation constantly. Is the credit card debt just through the roof?
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Emily Sturge
Yes. And it's because of social media. Many Gen Zers are trying to promote this idea on social media that they have the perfect life, that the perfect lifestyle, vacation, relationship, perfect car, everything. But we know social media is not reality.
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Tudor Dixon
And we know, but I don't Know if they know. I really don't.
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Emily Sturge
And I'll tell you once again, there's a silver lining to this. There always is. Not all of us. Not all of us Gen Zers are like this. I'm here in Washington D.C. i am surrounded by young people that picked up their lives and moved to Washington D.C. because they were so fired up to serve in this administration. This city is filled with young people right now, young people everywhere you look because they're so energized to serve the government in any capacity, whether it's on the Hill, in the White House, or even just reporting on what's going on, working with a media organization, working at a think tank. There are so many young inspired Gen Zers who are truly going to be the future leaders in this country. So I'm an optimist. I have a lot of hope for my generation too.
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Tudor Dixon
This is why Charlie's message was not just one of politics, but it was also one of Christianity. And for all of those who criticized him for his faith, they have to understand that with Christianity comes a lot of personal responsibility. I mean, the Bible is not a passive item. Following God is not passive. Following God is an active. You have to be actively involved in your faith. And that also means that you take responsibility for things in your life, which then leads you to actually be a good citizen and be an involved citizen and a good employee. I mean, I see that you're reporting that 38% of Gen Z employees that received constructive criticism called out sick the next day. But the more shocking thing is 27% quit their jobs. I mean, more than a quarter of Gen Z, if you give them any type of criticism, they just leave altogether. What is that like for employers to say, man, if I go out and say anything, a quarter of these kids are just going to quit. That's not okay.
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Emily Sturge
No, it's a lot of pressure on employers and it's not much incentive to actually hire young people. So it's not helping my generation as a whole. But these statistics are a result of the lowered standards within the higher education system. We are seeing what we call grade inflation, where universities are handing out A's like candy. For example, at Yale, over 80% of the grades at Yale are A's. And so as standards have been lowered, professors are just giving students higher grades even though they're not putting in the work. They go to the workplace and they expect the same behavior. We've also seen the sat, the ACT actually shorten their test, lower the standards on those tests. And so Students get a pretty high score and you know, it's because of those lowered standards. That's why so many gen zers get to the workplace and they expect praise. Well, they're used to getting A's and they're used to getting high scores even when they maybe don't deserve that high of a grade. We've also seen other universities completely eliminate failing grades altogether. An example is Western Oregon University. You can't make anything below a C. There's so you can just not even show up.
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Tudor Dixon
You can't make anything. What does that mean?
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Emily Sturge
There's no Ds and there's no Fs. Students aren't allowed to fail at that university. So students can put in, don't hire.
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Tudor Dixon
Kids from that university.
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Emily Sturge
Hero work. They don't have to do anything and they can still pass with a C. It's completely unfair. I would say it completely goes against meritocracy. This is what creates weak societies, is teaching students that this is okay in the classroom. And then once again, they're taking that mentality of mediocrity. Students are taking that to the workplace upon graduation.
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Tudor Dixon
The best innovations in this country have come from failures.
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Emily Sturge
That's such a great point. But when, when you can't make anything below a C, students aren't inspired to put in any work whatsoever. Students aren't motivated to go to classes. They don't have to do anything and they can still pass. Students are just. Things are not going right at schools like that. But once again, I'm an optimist. I have a lot of hope. There are a lot of hard working gen zers. Maybe not on that campus because if, if you're a student on that campus, the difference between an A and a C could be a ton of work versus never showing up. There's not much motivation there for students to actually put maximum effort. But there are many wonderful schools still throughout this country where students are training. They're preparing to become the leaders of tomorrow.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Emily Sturge
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Tudor Dixon
And I'm not blaming your generation because I've seen my generation as parents and gosh, I'm trying to remember this. Oh, I. So a few years ago, my girls were in first grade and the. No, this was second grade. And the second grade teacher said that there was a kid that came that, that she had to take out of the classroom because he shoved a pencil in another kid's eye. It didn't go all the way in, but his was to poke the kid's eye out. Pretty aggressive, right? So she took the kid out of class and the mom came in the next day and said, but did the kid lose his eye?
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Emily Sturge
Oh my gosh. Okay, well that's.
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Tudor Dixon
But, but what is happening to parents? No, that is not the answer. You do not say he didn't lose his eyes. So should we really be mad that.
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Emily Sturge
Yes. Why?
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Tudor Dixon
Where are the consequences? It's like my generation has refused to give your generation any consequences whatsoever. What were we thinking?
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Emily Sturge
I think back to the violence on our university campuses when we saw the anti Semitic protests completely take over our university campuses for pretty much over a year. And the reason why all of that violence was allowed to fester on college campuses was because there was no accountability, there was no consequences. University administrations like at Columbia, Harvard, the Ivy School schools allowed this violence to just take over campus to the point where students had to go and have their classes online. They couldn't even go on campus because of the encampments that were taking place. I was very lucky. I was a student at the University of Florida during that time. And I saw when pro Palestinian, pro Hamas students attempted to set up an encampment on campus and harass those around them, my university shut that down very quickly. Law and order was carried out. These students were held accountable. Those who were violent and were assaulting those around them, they were arrested. And so there's such a difference between the way some university campuses handled it. Some campuses like the Ivy Leagues, allowed that behavior to run wild. Zero consequences. Whereas in a red. Well, yeah, a red state, I was in a blue city in a red state. At the University of Florida, Florida but my school upheld law and order. We saw consequences take place. And guess what? We only had protests for just a few days. It was cleaned up. It was done. Students didn't feel emboldened to go out there and show that violent behavior because they knew there were consequences. So that was just a few days in Florida versus places like Columbia. Those protests, those riots went on for years.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, we're learning some very good points from you. I think, as we go through all of these things, and I know a lot of the people that are listening are my generation. So for all of us, we need. Whatever we're doing with our kids, we need to really focus on personal responsibility. But I think also it's important for us to talk to universities. I mean, as we go and we search for universities for our children, it's important to me that I know that they are going to have an openness of discussion to make sure that there are. There is critical thinking, people of both sides get an opinion, because that's how you realize, okay, well, maybe they're not a horrible person because we've created the society where if you don't agree with me, I cannot be around you. You are absolutely horrible. But it's just not the. That is just not how we really are as human beings. And if you go to church every Sunday, you have a lot of good lessons about how to hold your kids accountable and what the Bible says about holding your children accountable. And it's important as parents that we remember that. But I think also university professors, if they had some of that in their lives, they would be able to understand that there is a value in seeing both sides of an argument. And that's shocking to me that we would even have to say that about university professors, because it's almost every. Every course, outside of what math, that you would say there are two sides of this argument. How could you not be willing to engage in that way?
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Emily Sturge
Well, that's exactly why Charlie Kirk resonated with so many young people. It's because free speech was dead in our university classrooms. Any discussion or debate is labeled politically incorrect or offensive by our university professors. Students who talk about their religious or their political views, many of them are harassed or intimidated by their peers. Whether it's verbal abuse in the classroom, receiving failing grades from professors. So students aren't encouraged to discuss and debate ideas in the classroom. And when students naturally have a lot of questions, we couldn't ask our university professors. So students would go stand in a line when Charlie Kirk came to their campus just to get to ask him a 15 second question. When free speech was dead in our classrooms, Charlie Kirk brought it right to the middle of campus, brought it to the campus quad. And I like to say that many young people, especially those who had interactions with Charlie Kirk on their campus, they probably learned more from a 30 second interaction with him than they ever did from their university professors because our classrooms lack that discussion and debate.
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Tudor Dixon
I'm going to a university campus this weekend to talk to kids and you've given me so much good information. And really I'm so thrilled that you are on today because you are a great example of Gen Z that is coming back and saying, hey, these things are affecting us and somebody has to say that because we need to hear it. I'm, I want you to know that I'm listening to what you're saying and I feel more guilty than I do angry about the situation because I'm going through my head saying, okay, what am I doing with my kids? When am I letting them get off the hook? When am I telling them, you know, people are being unfair to you? It's not about what you did, it's about people being unfair to you. Because I think we have to consciously step back as parents and say, when are we too emotionally connected to our kid to be able to step back and say, no, you're in the wrong, you own it. You have to go back and apologize. You have to fix this. But also, how do I get engaged with universities and make sure they are feeling that same way? Because ultimately they get. Our universities get a lot of federal funding, but we as parents are the ones paying or the student is paying. But ultimately that money is coming from our family and therefore we should have input into what the university universities are doing. And without talking to you, we wouldn't have known that. So, Emily Sturge, thank you for what you do at Campus Reform and thank you for coming on the podcast today.
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Emily Sturge
Thank you so much for having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Absolutely. And thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon podcast. For this episode and others, go to tutordixonpodcast.com the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And you can always watch us on YouTube or rumble humble Uterdixon and make sure you join us next time. Have a blessed day.
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