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And I have a guest with me today. He is one of my favorite people to talk to. He actually is somebody who is out there fighting sex trafficking every day, which I appreciate, having four daughters. He has taught me so much about keeping my kids safe. But I felt like, wow, with all this stuff going on with Diddy right now, it would be great to have Yaku Boyens here. So I. I want to welcome you to the program. Thank you so much for joining me, Yaku.
Rodney Williams
Thank you. Tutor. So kind of you. And you're the. You're the best of the best. It's good to be with you.
Travis Holloway
Well, thanks for being here. You have some things going on in Texas too. I want to get to that. But first, what is your opinion on what happened with Diddy Tudor?
Rodney Williams
This is an utter failure of the judicial system. Today is a very dark day. And if you could look at my text feed today from survivors of trafficking, texting me. Organizations in the fight, they are. They're demotivated, they are depleted because we work so hard to rescue a single life and then to have it play out in the media to parade a survivor like Cassie Ventura, like they did with Virginia Giuffrey, and then to have the justice system fail again. This case was not built right from the first day. And I reached out to prosecutors when they took this case. We offered support from industry experts saying, look, can you build this case differently? It's all good that they.
Travis Holloway
Because your sister was trafficked in the music industry, you know.
Rodney Williams
Yeah. And so, yeah, you're right. So within human trafficking, music specifically is very, very personal to us because Ilonka was trafficked through the music business through an American record label. This is her story. We know this story inside out. And so the case was not buil. Right. The prosecutors did a very poor job in building this case. The way they present survivors to a jury, judges do not understand the crime. Jury does not understand force, fraud, coercion. When they drop 50% of the sex trafficking charges. On Friday, I messaged most of the organizations and said, this is not going to go well. This is going. This is going to be horrific. You know, acquitting him from racketeering and both human trafficking charges he's not guilty of, according to them. Right. And so, yes, Transportation, prostitution of Ms. Ventura. Transportation, prostitution for Jane Doe. Maximum sentence of 10 year each. He's not going to get that. He's probably going to get bail. He's probably going to be home for 4th of July and he may serve a fraction of it and then get off of good behavior. This is going to be a bit of a Martha Stewart scenario. A little bit of.
Travis Holloway
So you think he comes right home?
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I think he's got to be home for a bit and then he's going to get sentenced. I do think he serves time, but he will not serve the sentence he's going to get. He's going to be out, sadly. You're going to see this guy make records and people are going to buy his concert tickets. And you know who's losing your tutorial? Not just Ms. Ventura, every victim. If you can see what survivors are writing, to me it is. People don't know this. Only 1.7% of victims of human trafficking ever speak out. 1.7%. Now you're taking a 1.7% person who puts her name out there, she's paraded out there and now the world, the law is telling her, you're a liar, you're wrong, none of this happened. Her life is destroyed.
Travis Holloway
Doesn't that frustrate you that they built.
Rodney Williams
This case wrong then it's unbelievably frustrating. And we warned them. We warned them. It is a particular way you build these cases. If your key witness is a survivor, there's certain things you have to do and don't do. And you cannot hang a case this sophisticated. We're talking about two decades of freak offs and you're going to build the case around a single person. The pressure on that survivor, it's insurmountable. It's not. Plus, this is what they did with Virginia, Ghaffre and Epstein. What did they say? They looked at for a time when she lied about something and they came and said she's not a credible witness and they start cutting at her credibility in front of the public, in an audience and they dismantle a survivor of trafficking by questioning their testimony, by questioning their trauma. Right. There was no trauma. Informed therapy witness and testimony here. No. No human behavioral science with trauma. Nobody explained to this, this jury how a survivor remembers in phases that it's subliminal, buried trauma is buried, that this triggering happening. When they asked her, well, was there ever. This is so, this is so cynical. Was there ever a time when you were consensual with Mr. Cox? And her answer is so then that.
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Takes away all of her credibility.
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She legitimately loved him.
Travis Holloway
Yeah, well, but that's what you've told me. So oftentimes there is, there is someone that is keeping them there, that is keeping them from saying anything because they think it's love, because the manipulation is there. And that is the danger of this. But that's, I think, to the American people right now, they're going, okay, well, if Epstein can't be caught and did he can't be caught, then why even try?
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Exactly. Now, if the public thinks that Tudor, what do you think? A victim. This is a high profile case. We have 13 cases we're working right now. 13 in our organization. Some of them are 12 years old. The 12 year old, you don't know her name, her family is not getting financial support. They're not getting media attention. She's got some low level Prosecutor in the DA's office in her hometown that just tells her there's no way you get sex trafficking. We're not even going to try a sex trafficking case. We're going to plead this down to a marijuana charge, an illegal arms charge, a kidnapping charge. They're not even going to court on sex trafficking. It's only these. Here's the statistics at a federal level on sex trafficking. When the charge is sex trafficking, all right? Those cases go to court. Only 13% of those cases in the states go to court. 30%. Any other felony? Every other felony. We're releasing a white paper on this next week that I would love for you to help distribute. This white paper fillets this wide open. Any other felony at a federal level is prosecuted at 92% sex crimes, particularly against children and women, men and boys. 13%.
Travis Holloway
So let me ask you this. We started this show, this program today talking about Mamdani in New York. And one of the things that he came out and said is he wants to legalize sex work, which is prostitution. And you would have these men who would own women and they would be a part of this group, that they would sell their bodies. And to me, this all sounds like a nightmare when you hear this man saying this in the most powerful city in the world. What do you think? Based on what?
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You know, it is an absolute dismantling of the American culture. One nation under got what our founding fathers came here for. It is the most sadistic undermining of who we are as Americans. It will eat the nuclear family to its core. You will not recognize America. Now, remember, he is an offspring of some champions. The biggest, and by the way, the movement is called the Full Decrim movement to fully decriminalize the sell and purchase of sex, including children. Okay, so you can own a slave. That movement in this country has so much momentum. J.B. pritzker, the governor of Illinois is the champion of this movement in this country. Him and his brother Gavin Newsom is on this movement now. This madman, absolute madman, madman in New York is advocating for this in New York and he's getting support. Let me give an example. If his law was in place, Diddy would have been walking free of all charges today because the transportation to prostitute gone every city in the world. And there's been five cities in the world that have instituted over time and most of them had dropped it. The decriminalization of sexual enterprise, the trafficking of children on average went up over 1000%. It's like saying, look at Boulder, Colorado. In Boulder they said, you know what? THC is illegal. Do you know that every illicit drug went up over 86% when they, when they legalized THC, marijuana. You can't say, well, you can own a person and sell them, but nobody's going to sell children. This is.
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Well, and then. And also if you can own a person, I mean, you called it slavery. If you can own a person and sell them, for one thing, when does it end? Where does it stop?
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It doesn't. It's slavery. Straight up slavery in a land that in our Constitution, our founding fathers said we're leaving the grips of a tyrant king, right? This is. Look, every person in New York, if they hear my voice, if you stand with that man, you will be single handedly responsible for human beings being enslaved. You know.
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You are saying this to me and it makes me realize he was one of three people in the New York legislature that voted against banning revenge porn. He did not want to ban revenge porn. And that to me, I'm like, my goodness, everything I know from you tells me that that's how these guys control these women. So if he wants to torture women, if he wants to make sex work legal, he wants to then also make it legal to hold this over their heads and to the people that they own.
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Tutor. Look at his faith. This is going to be controversial. I'm going to say this right now. I'm not speaking for Buck and the boys. I'm not speaking for you. We're not speaking for the network. I'm Speaking out of 31 years experience fighting this demon, okay? Fighting human trafficking, fighting immorality, sexual immorality. Look at his faith go. Look at his core. There are certain faiths on this planet that believe you can sell people, own them, demean them. You can sell an 8 year old child as a child bride. You can have sex with a child. We are playing with demons in this country. We're playing with fire. New York will fall in fashion that you cannot fathom. And the sad part is when that happens, you don't just pick it up in the next midterm and fix it. People get broken in levels where you can't fix them. The abuse level will go through. You want to see persecution of Jews? You know what's happening in London at the moment? London has no go zones. I work with Scotland Yard, I work with the House of Lords in London. There's British citizens, Americans, sorry, British citizens that marry into a particular faith sect that does not frown upon the sexual abuse of women. And the police force will not defend British citizens because they're saying you're under that law now you've placed yourself. We have surreal law birthing up in Anna, Texas, Frisco, Texas, across this country there's things happening in this country and the result is going to be women and children will be abused.
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This is why, this is why I wanted to have you on because I knew you would speak truth and I appreciate it and I thank you and I want to, you know, I'll have you back on the podcast and that's why I tell people go to the podcast to the tutor Dixon Podcastutter Dixon. Check it out. We've had Yaku on several times. Yakuboyans thank you so much for being on today. Thank you for sharing these hard truths. Really appreciate it.
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Power, Scandal, and the Diddy Verdict
Release Date: July 5, 2025
In this compelling episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve deep into the high-profile case of Diddy Tudor, exploring themes of power, scandal, and the shortcomings of the judicial system. The discussion is enriched by insights from guest Yaku Boyens, a dedicated advocate combating human trafficking.
Rodney Williams (Guest Yaku Boyens):
“This is an utter failure of the judicial system. Today is a very dark day.”
[03:15]
Yaku Boyens opens the conversation by condemning the recent verdict in the Diddy Tudor case, highlighting systemic flaws within the judicial process. He emphasizes the demoralizing effect on survivors of human trafficking and expresses frustration over the media's handling of such sensitive cases.
Key Points:
Yaku underscores the broader implications of the verdict on the fight against human trafficking. He points out that only a minuscule percentage of victims feel empowered to speak out, and high-profile cases often end in further trauma.
Notable Quote:
“Only 1.7% of victims of human trafficking ever speak out.”
[05:34]
Key Points:
The conversation shifts to the contentious issue of decriminalizing sex work, with Yaku vehemently opposing recent legislative movements in New York and elsewhere.
Rodney Williams:
“You want to see persecution of Jews? You know what's happening in London at the moment? London has no go zones.”
[13:30]
Key Points:
Yaku paints a dire picture of the future if current trends continue, linking legislative changes to potential widespread abuses.
Notable Quote:
“This is slavery. Straight up slavery in a land that in our Constitution, our founding fathers said we're leaving the grips of a tyrant king.”
[12:36]
Key Points:
As the episode concludes, Travis acknowledges the gravity of the issues discussed and expresses gratitude to Yaku for shedding light on these critical matters.
Rodney Williams:
“Thank you for sharing these hard truths. Really appreciate it.”
[15:30]
Key Points:
This episode serves as a profound exploration of the intersection between power, scandal, and systemic failures within the judicial system. Through Yaku Boyens' passionate insights, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding high-profile cases and the ongoing battle against human trafficking. The discussion not only critiques current legislative trends but also calls for a recommitment to foundational human rights and societal protections.
For those intrigued by this episode, be sure to listen to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.