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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: President Trump's One Big, Beautiful Bill with Senator Markwayne Mullin
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Tudor Dixon
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Christiane Amanpour
I'm Christian Amanpour and I've been on.
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Tudor Dixon
The front lines and interviewing world leaders.
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Christiane Amanpour
For more than 30 years.
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Jamie Rubin
And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor.
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Christiane Amanpour
To both Presidents Clinton and Biden. We were married for 20 years and divorced for seven.
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Tudor Dixon
Now we've joined forces on the X.
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Christiane Amanpour
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Jamie Rubin
Ended up with no world order.
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Christiane Amanpour
Listen to Christiane Amanpour presents the X files on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak podcast, a real conversation about finance. Let's be honest, building weft doesn't look the same for everyone.
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Tudor Dixon
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Mark Wayne Mullen
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. I have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen back with me today. I want to talk to him about all things while government, but also one big beautiful bill because it passed. Congratulations, Senator. Thank you for being out there every day talking about it.
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Christiane Amanpour
Absolutely. Well, we're excited about it. It was a. It was a huge push. I told everybody I can't wait till it's done because I'm actually going to get rest. But I lied. That hasn't happened.
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Tudor Dixon
I was gonna say, I don't think you did.
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Christiane Amanpour
I literally, I was recounting just while ago with my office that I've got three hours of sleep since Sunday morning. Wow. And so it just. Just part of it. But the one big beautiful built. Listen, super sorry. This is what happens when you eat Wheat Thins right before you get on the show with you. That's fine because that was my. That was my lunch. But anyways, you. The one big beautiful bill has been such a push in September, because in September, we knew we were going to win, Right? And President Trump was already talking about it. When we're on the plane, we're talking about the priorities that need to be in the one big beautiful bill. Even though we wasn't calling it OBBB back then. We were just talking about the reconciliation package, what needed to be in it. He was talking about taxes. He was talking about the permanency. He was talking about border. He was talking about making sure we fully fund the border wall. He was talking about energy. I mean, through the whole campaign, the whole time I was on Trump Force One, we were discussing it. And then when we get. We win the election, because we knew we were going to win it. We win the election in November. It's been, it's been just the hard push from Jason Smith in the. As chairman of Ways and Means, who is a very good friend of mine, in fact, he leases a room off of me at my house here in D.C. he just, I mean, it's all. It was all consuming to him, with me being the liaison between the Senate and the House. I was working on the House side when it was going through to make sure that Senate had priorities in it. And then we had our priorities in it. And. And then working with the White House on it. The President was fully engaged. And the thing is, is when the President is fully engaged, he doesn't sleep and I don't think he sleeps anyways, but he doesn't, he doesn't sleep. And so I'm getting phone calls from him at 12:30 in the morning, or I guess, oh, 30 in the morning. And I'm getting calls again from him at 5:40 in the morning. I'm getting text messages to the point where I wouldn't go to sleep until after midnight because I was afraid I would miss a call, which I did do that one time, and I fell asleep and then I answered the call and I don't remember the phone call. Funny story here. Literally, I wake up and I get up early. I usually wake up between 4 and 4:30. And I woke up and I was like, I had a dream I talked to President Trump. Am I really talking to him that much? That had a dream. So I looked at my phone, it said DJ T. And I'm like, oh my goodness. And it's black. And I'm going, no. And it said, duration, three minutes. So I wait until almost 6 o' clock and I call him and he answered the phone. The first thing he says, you don't remember talking to me, do you? I was like, no. What did I say? He says, you'll never know and just hung up on me.
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Tudor Dixon
No, that is hilarious, because I think that's the side no one knows.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, that's the worst thing that can actually happen. And so I was just, I was just so. So now, the whole time doing the one big beautiful bill, I was always afraid to go to sleep because that first hour, I'm horrible. When I go to sleep. I only sleep about four or five hours anyways. But when I go to sleep that first hour, I wake up cranky or I don't wake up at all. You can wake me up after the first hour and I'll come straight awake. I'm good. I can sit straight up and go walk into a fight. I mean, I'm good. But that first hour is just, is just awful. And so anyways, the one big beautiful bill, I'm glad it's over with, but now we're moving on to other things and we got all their priorities. It wasn't perfect, right? I mean, there's some stuff in there that we didn't like, had to negotiate a lot. We had to negotiate a lot right at the last minute with, with Lisa Mikowski to get, to get over our threshold of the votes. But we were able to do it and deliver on, I'll say, one of the most impactful bills and probably our generation that Is, is, is a legacy bill for the Republicans, plus for the President. And I think one of the biggest wins in there, we can talk about taxes being permanent. Right? We can talk to plus up on the military and putting us into the actual future of the fight with AI technology and new technology that puts us in the conventional war fighter, that actually helps us from deterrence perspective, not so we don't have to use it, but to keep people from actually saying, we don't want to mess with those guys. That's peace through strength. But one thing that's been overlooked is that we fully funded the southern border to finish the wall. We put in $46 billion. That's more than enough to build every inch of that wall, either by a physical bar or from technology that exists in some of the more remote areas that have UAE technology that soon as something happens, it's able, or uas, where it's able to immediately put eyes on it, and we're able to monitor what's happening in those areas. And what's different between that and the President's first term is that in this one, it's law. It's not an executive order. So even God forbid we get a Democrat in there after President Trump, they can't stop it. The wall has to continue.
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Tudor Dixon
And that is key because we know that Joe Biden just let everything go to crap and then started selling everything off.
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Christiane Amanpour
That's a very bad word.
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Tudor Dixon
Trying to keep it friendly for the kids. But, but I mean, honestly, I think people don't understand that that is why Congress has to work with the President, because the executive orders can only go so far. Once the President is out of office, that can all change. So I love that you pointed that out. I want to talk about, about the tax relief because Democrats, their party line right now, across the board, but especially in Michigan, where we have some vulnerable seats for the midterm, is that this was tax relief for, for billionaires. And you have, you just put out a tweet a few days ago that says tax relief for working families. So tell us about that.
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Christiane Amanpour
Well, let's, let's debunk what they're saying. First of all, they're saying that it's tax relief for the billionaires because we're not allowing the taxes to expire. But if taxes were to expire, because we really didn't do anything different except make the current tax policy not expire, because underneath current tax law, all the taxes that we put, the tax cuts we put in in 2017, 2018, would expire. On December 31st. So the American people across the board would see a roughly a $4 trillion increase in taxes because we made it permanent. Stop set now. Nothing changes on the upper layer. So the 1%, their taxes stay the same. The bottom percent we actually put in, we doubled the child tax credit in there. We put no tax on tips, we put no tax on overtime, which is huge because that's the working class, right? They're working by the hour. We're not taxing you on anything that you're, that you're, that you're working over 40 hours. And then it, then there's no tax on, on Social Security for 88%. The reason why they say, well that's not accurate. You know, it's 88% because the 12% are the ones that are making a higher, much, much higher income that are in the top bracket. So those individuals are, they don't, they don't actually get a tax break on their Social Security. What actually happens? Because the child tax credit, because of no tax on tips, because of the no tax on overtime. If you look at it, the average family of four inside the United States will receive roughly $10,000 more in bring home pay. In Oklahoma it's 7,000, but across the country it's 10,000. That is, that is a tax cut for the middle class. I mean we saw our wages go backwards for the last four years. We saw inflation at a high of 9.1% average during the Biden administration. 4.4.95%. Underneath Trump it's now almost 2% and continues to fall. We're seeing real wages increase. So even outside of that, the, the OBB B, I always got to get that extra B in there, that one big beautiful bill. It alone because the policies will be around 10,000 for an average family of four. You take inflation and you take actual bring home pay because we see wages increasing. And the reason why you're seeing wages increasing is because President Trump is getting rid of all the illegal labels or illegal aliens that are in, that are stealing jobs by working by cash. So now you're starting to see people actually have to pay for the labor that they're producing. You're seeing the bring home pay even increase more than that. So real income, we're estimating around $12,000. When you take the, the economic policies that President Trump put in place, you think about that an average family of four that's going to have, see increase in bring home pay around $12,000. That is, that's, that's massive, massive yes, absolutely. Start being able to save money again instead of pulling out their savings and living off their credit cards, are actually pay down their, the, their, their line of credit and actually start putting money into savings.
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Tudor Dixon
What is the Democrats argument against this? I mean, we know that they were talking about Medicaid and they say that you're cutting Medicaid. Obviously we know, I mean, I know from the state of Michigan there are plenty of people that are taking benefits that shouldn't be taking benefits. It's interesting because since that we've had some people come out on social media, I don't, I don't know if they're satire or if they are really saying, hey, I don't work, I want this money, I don't want my money cut. But they're clearly able bodied and able to work. How do you fight that though? Because that narrative of these, these people and they're going to have ads, they're going to come out at the midterms. They're going to have people that have said, you know, my child is sick and I had my Medicaid taken away and this was the Republicans that did it. How do you fight that?
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Christiane Amanpour
Well, we're going to have the ads. There's nothing to do about it. I think the line's already been drawn because they made it, they made the fight so quick right now and it's so polarizing between Republicans and Democrats. But the real numbers are, and I don't know how you're going to get it, it's going to be combated one state and one district at a time that you're going to have to actually fight it with truth. The problem is, is that a lie outruns the truth. But the real fact of the matter is right now we have 35 million people that live underneath a poverty line inside the United States. Now that's what Medicaid was designed for. But we have nearly 90 million that's on Medicaid. Now where in the world is that at? Because just if you're just going by, if you just go by qualifications of income, you shouldn't even be able to qualify if you're living below the poverty line with kids. One of the big things that the Democrats are pushing on, saying that this is unfair, that we can't do this, it's going to because it's too burdensome, is the work requirement. Now let me just throw out the work requirement on this one. And I don't know how the Democrats defend this. We're requiring you to work, volunteer or go to school 20 hours a week if you have no dependencies and no health issues. Okay, I'm sorry. You have no dependencies, meaning you're not responsible for any kids and you have no health issues. You just choose not to work and you want the American taxpayer to pay you to stay home to be lazy. What the, what the Republicans are doing here is like we're giving you an opportunity to better yourself by requiring you to either volunteer work or get educated and pull yourself out of poverty. There's no excuse for being lazy inside the United States. And it's not up to us. If you choose to be lazy, then it's not up to us to have to fund you. And they. And then we require you to have a proof of means that you got to fill out proof of means every six months instead of every year. It's every six months and they're saying that the paperwork is too burdensome. Wow. Give me a break. I don't. So we're gonna, we cut out the waste and fraud to make sure that it's there for those that need it and that actually deserve a helping hand because you find yourself in an unfortunate situation. It's not there for people that want to game the system or where the Democrats put them because they're trying to give everybody free health care.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, hey.
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Christiane Amanpour
Hey.
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Tudor Dixon
Thanks for meeting me here on such short notice. This place isn't bugged, is it?
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Christiane Amanpour
Bugged? Wait, Jamie, what's going on?
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, it's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. Do you see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there? Yeah, that's all I paid for.
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Christiane Amanpour
Ah, I think I need to get back to you on that.
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Tudor Dixon
Do you know what you want?
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Listen, I don't want to get in your business, but if that's all she paid for it, I'll have what she's having.
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Tudor Dixon
So the midterms are coming up. Obviously, we're all looking at this very carefully. I. Like I said, in the state of Michigan, we have an open Senate seat. We have a couple people that are shuffling out of congressional seats. So that leaves those congressional seats open and There is definitely concern that we're not going to go get through the midterm with the majority. But I believe that the messaging is there. I know that what the President is doing, the policies are there. So I guess it comes down to making sure the public is educated enough to know that the Republicans are going to be the ones who are going to protect you, that are going to get your, your, your costs down, that are going to improve the economy. And right now, you know, last night they were just talking on Hannity about this being one of the best economies that we've seen in years. So we are going in with all the right stuff. There are going to be major attacks. How is fundraising going? How is it going looking at where the grass of the Republican Party are right now?
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Christiane Amanpour
Fundraising. We're setting records on fundraising. So. So the people out there, there's some people that are still upset at some of the tariffs and trade deals that we're trying to work out, but they're excited about where the economy is going because they can't, you know, they were talking about, you know, the tariffs are going to ruin the economy and inflation is going to come through. We have seen no inflation due to tariffs at all. You see, the economy as we talked about, is coming back with, with, as I would say, almost like a roaring lion. You have the stock market that is volatile. It's always volatile. It's not a good measure of the economy, but it's still at record numbers. And so everything's moving in the right direction. People are excited about it. The thing that is really, really difficult to do is how do you play whack a mole with all the lies the Democrats are out there saying? The best thing that's happening for the Democrats is they're so radical. They're so far to the left and it's what cost them the election. And they haven't changed. The worst thing that could happen for us is that the Democrat decided to be moderate again. The Democrat, which they can't do, their base won't allow them to be moderate. In fact, they kicked out all their moderates. But if the Democrat Party decided to shift and get away from this woke DEI socialist agenda and actually move towards America first agenda, you would see that we would have problems in the midterm. It's going to be tough anyways, but because they've doubled down, they keep having ridiculous rhetoric. And the people that are leading the party at this point is AOC J. Paul, Jay Paul or whatever you say, her name, and Bernie Sanders, who are Open socialists. And then you see the new, the New York mayor that literally elects or hasn't elected yet, but has won the primary to be the, the, the new mayor of New York City who's a socialist. Communist.
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Tudor Dixon
Right, I know.
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Christiane Amanpour
And he's openly saying what he wants to do. And this is what a lot of people don't understand is the, the scariest thing that he is saying that the Democrat Party is backing up. Remember, a lot of people have come out and endorsed him and to support him now. And all, all the leaders in the Democrat Party have already come out and supporting this guy. There's three things that a socialist country has to control. They have to control education, health and food. And, and so the most, the most eye opening thing he said is when he wants to take all the go or all the, the grocery stores and be, and, and be ran by the government, by New York City. That is socialism. Because they already control the public school system, they're controlling the health care system, and now they're controlling your food supply. That is, that is so scary. But the, the average person out there is seeing this and is waking up about what's happening. So for the midterm, this is the best thing that could happen for the American people because they see how radical the Democrat Party is.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Mark Wayne Mullen
We've been talking an awful lot about Iran. You know, they have vowed to wipe Israel and the US off the map. They made the calculated strikes at Israel and thousands have fled bombed out homes, many requiring immediate medical care. Now, these attacks were only the start of something that could be much, much worse. Your urgently needed gift to our partners, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They will help provide wide scale food distribution along with critical first aid, emergency supplies, bare necessities to Israel's most vulnerable, the sick, the elderly, children, families. Your gift today will help place new bomb shelters all across Israel along with first responder flak jackets and armored emergency vehicles. Now is the time to help save and heal Israel's innocent and most vulnerable. Please rush your gift. It's so needed. 888488 IFCJ. That's 888488 IFCJ online. You can give@ifcj.org that's ifcj.org today.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
Oh, hey.
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Christiane Amanpour
Hey.
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Tudor Dixon
Thanks for meeting me here on such short notice. This place isn't bugged.
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Christiane Amanpour
Ugs. Wait, Jamie, what's going on?
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Tudor Dixon
It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. You see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there?
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
That's all I paid for it.
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Christiane Amanpour
I think I need to get back.
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Jamie Rubin
To you on that.
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Tudor Dixon
Do you know what you want?
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Jamie Rubin
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Christiane Amanpour
Real.
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Jamie Rubin
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Tudor Dixon
Listen, I don't want to get in your business, but if that's all she paid for it, I'll have what she's having.
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Tudor Dixon
Do you think there's any regret? I see you quote, tweeted someone, a senator last week, who was like, people are privately coming to me and saying, mark, stay. Keep fighting, keep fighting. You were like, this is not happening. And I think that the reason that people are out there saying things like that is because their party has become so radical. They're trying to put out messages that are a little bit more ratcheted down and like, okay, we're, we're the party of common sense, but they're not there. An Axios article came out just a couple of days ago saying that their grassroots are now going to elected officials and saying, we'd like you to go get shot at ICE facilities. We need you to fight harder. We need this to look worse for us. So if you get shot, then the president has a real problem on his hands. And it's interesting because if you read this article, the electeds who are quoted in there are like, you know, we're not really into that. I think that's going a little bit too far. I mean, they're essentially saying, martyr yourself, go out there, do act like a crazy person, threaten ICE to the point where you get killed, and then we can continue to go after the president of the United States.
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Christiane Amanpour
So the Axios article, this is second time has been brought up today. I mean, is referring to people literally draw blood. It's time to draw blood. And it says it gives an unnamed Republican or Democrat official. And I'm going, hopefully this isn't true. Hopefully that Axios is making this up and it's not an actual leader in a Democrat party that would be that stupid to say that. But if it is, they should expose who that person is because they're the ones that's leading to the two ice facilities that got attacked on July 4th and once and one yesterday on July 7th. They're the ones that are, that are leading to this. When you, when you're constantly fanning the flames and stirring the coals, you're going to originally eventually get hold of people that have a little bit of mental illness that's going to take that first for, for real. Which maybe you do mean it for real, but hopefully you don't. Hopefully it's just words that get you aroused and want you to make you. You know, it's like a call to arms.
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Tudor Dixon
But after what we just saw in Minnesota, how can you say that?
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Christiane Amanpour
No, that's right. I mean, because it wasn't. When you start having these ICE detention facilities that are being attacked by a planned ambush, when you have people that are showing up in black tactical gear and they have jamming devices to block their signals so they, so they can't be tracked by their cell phone and then when you have an ICE officer that shows up and two people that are hiding in the woods come out and open fire, that's a huge, huge planned coordinated event that doesn't just accidentally happen. That is not a peaceful protest that the, that CNN or CNBC or any of these left leaning radical outlets are starting to try to deceive the American people by saying this is when the Democrat party should actually start re looking and focusing on changing their direction and saying hey, maybe we got it wrong. But they can't move because it's their base and they can't leave off their base. And when they try to live leave, leave their base, their base is starting to eat them alive. Because why you created this monster and you keep feeding them this, this rhetoric that now they believe and if you're not seen to be fighting enough, you're going to lose your primary election.
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Tudor Dixon
It's such a double edged sword because I hear what you're saying about as long as they continue to put this rhetoric out, we are going to win the midterms. But I look at New York City, which I think is the most powerful financial city in the world and I think about what you just said about these grocery stores and what this man could do to destroy that city. I mean he has overwhelmingly talked about defunding the police and now even when he is asked about that, he doesn't Say, oh, no, I don't want to defund the police. He says he wants to reimagine things. Just like Ilhan Omar was saying, reimagine and community policing, which is, we're not going to have police, we're going to have people talking to one another. There is a real danger of New York completely going into total chaos. And then you've also got him. Not only is he talking about reimagining the police, but as you said, he's talking about taking over the supermarkets. He's talking about government control. He's talking, I mean, he's openly a socialist. This to me, is traveling across the country. And now, like you said, CNN is going, he's not a communist, he's a socialist. As if that's okay.
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Christiane Amanpour
Well, I don't, I'd actually disagree with it. A socialist is moving towards a communist. But when a communist, when a socialist actually starts taking, talking about taking over the food supply, they're. They're a communist at that point. Yes, because that's exactly what they do. It's about controlling the people. And by the way, have you ever met a poor communist leader or a poor socialist leader? It's interesting that most of them come from quite a bit of money themselves. And they may have came from nothing and they made themselves something, but now they want everybody to be dependent on them because now they have wealth and control and they have power. But what you said about New York, about being a huge financial hub, which I agree with, that 10 years from now, if they continue down this path, they won't be because all the financial sectors are going to leave. They're going to go to a red state, they're going to end up in Florida, they're going to end up in Oklahoma. I don't think they probably will, but I'm just saying, I'm just using these, for example, that they're going to leave New York because when he starts talking about taxing these large corporations, these billion dollar corporations, when they start talking about taxing millionaires and billionaires, a huge percentage, they're not stupid. They're going to leave. And today you can leave because so much technology is easily moved from one area to the next. You don't have to have a physical presence there. One thing, the worst thing about COVID was Covid. The best thing that came out of COVID is this right here, the way we're able to interact now, instead of a person and person, we're able to act, interact from person to person. But over the Internet, and it's normalized. And so you can work from any place at this point. So they don't have to have the physical address there in New York anymore.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, and that's always been the sticky wicked about going after billionaires. When you are on a local level. When he is on a local level, you're the mayor of a city. If you go after the billionaires. The thing about billionaires is they can get up and leave. And even if they have to move people and move buildings, they can afford it. So when you go after the billionaires, they're the job creators. They're the ones that are pushing into the. Into the economy, and that's what hurts a city. But for someone who's never worked a job and as you said, has lived a wealthy lifestyle, has never lived in a city where it's dangerous, that's where we end up in a situation that becomes very dangerous. But I know you keep fighting this. I appreciate what you do every day. I mean, I watch your social media. You're out there talking to us. There's so few people that are telling us what's going on. But what you just said about COVID is key. We learn to communicate in bigger ways, and you're one of those people doing that. So I just wanted to say thank you so much for that.
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Christiane Amanpour
I appreciate it. It's an honor to be in the fight. But I tell people all the time, I am not growing long or as I say, short and solid in this job. That's what we talk about. Cattle. Or some people say, you know, long in the tooth. I'm here. I'm going to do my job as hard as I can. But I'm not forever. So why I'm here, I'm going to give it everything I got because it's an honor to be in the fight and be associated with people like yourself and great leaders that are leading the country by telling the truth. It's an exciting time. I'll tell you this one quick story. We had a gentleman that came in. I'll leave his name out of it, but he's a leader and he works with Pete Hegseth. And he walked in my office, we sat down, we had a good conversation. He says, and he's older, and he goes, the reason why I'm not retiring right now is because I feel like we have once in a generational opportunity to make true changes in America. We've been going the wrong direction for so long that I didn't think we would ever be able to turn but now the timing is right. We got the leadership in place and American people are asking for it and it's becoming on all of us to do it. When he said that, I'm telling you, here's a guy that's, that's not quite twice my age, but he's definitely got me by 50% of my age or more. And he's still in the fight. He could retire today if he wanted to, not to mention President Trump. And you're going. If they're doing this, then so can I. And so going without sleep right now. Let's go. If we got once in a lifetime opportunity, we only have three and a half years that we're guaranteed. We can make big changes if we're all in the same boat, rowing in the same direction, fighting for the same thing, and President Trump's the one that's draw that vision for us.
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Tudor Dixon
It is a unique moment where you have leadership that is not shackled by politics but loyal to the people. And that is the opportunity you have. Senator Mark Wade Mullen, thank you so much.
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Christiane Amanpour
Thank you.
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Tudor Dixon
And thank you all for joining us on the Tudor Dixon podcast. For this episode and others, go to tutor Dixon podcast.com the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and join us next time. Have a blessed day.
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Jamie Rubin
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- [41:20]
Christiane Amanpour
I'm Christiane Amanpour, and I've been on.
- [41:22]
Tudor Dixon
The front lines and interviewing world leaders.
- [41:24]
Christiane Amanpour
For more than 30 years.
- [41:26]
Jamie Rubin
And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor.
- [41:28]
Christiane Amanpour
To both Presidents Clinton and Biden. We were married for 20 years and divorced for seven.
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Tudor Dixon
Now we've joined forces on the X.
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Christiane Amanpour
Files to make sense of how we.
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Jamie Rubin
Ended up with no world order.
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Christiane Amanpour
Listen to Christiane Amanpour presents the X files on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak podcast, a real conversation about finance. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone.
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Tudor Dixon
I feel like sometimes being broke is a cycle and that we might have.
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Christiane Amanpour
To revisit that and we're not stopping at success stories. What happens when it doesn't go right? How do you cope with it? Because wealth isn't just about money. It's about creating a life where you thrive and help others do the same. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartradio app.
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Tudor Dixon
This is an iHeart podcast.