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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Rep. Kat Cammack on ‘Woman in Red’ SOTU Moment
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Kat Cammack
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Tudor Dixon
You're listening to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tudor Dixon and I wanted to chat a little bit about this amazing state of the union that we had. But there was this mystery woman, the woman in red. And all of a sudden on on social media, everybody was going crazy. Like, who was the woman in red on the Democrat side? And I loved it because I know this woman. She's been to the state of Michigan. She campaigned for the president in Michigan. So she is personally very important to me. She is our Florida congresswoman, Kat Kamac. Thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today.
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Kat Cammack
Oh, tutor, it's so good to see you. And it's kind of crazy that it might be colder in Florida than it is in Michigan.
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Tudor Dixon
I know. I actually, my mom goes to Florida in the winter and she brags every winter and I'm like, okay. She called the other day. She's like, what's the weather like here? I'm like, it's like 75, which was a total lie. And she's like, okay, it's, you're lying. But they, you know, has been cold there, so. But thank you for doing what you did. I love what you did on the, the House floor because we were watching and I saw you, I obviously knew who it was. And it was just struck me that there was this bright joy coming out of you on that side of the aisle.
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Kat Cammack
Well, it was, as you said, the most incredible State of the Union speech. I mean, honestly, the only way that that speech could have been better is if they had been blasting freeb the chamber and let an eagle fly through. Like that was, that was the only way that that was going to get topped. But it wasn't really a premeditated, like, well in advance thought out plan. Like, hey, I'm going to sit on the Democrat side. It was more of like an hour before the, the, the State of the Union. I started talking to my team and I'm like, you know what? There's, there's all these people that, you know, they jockey for these positions in the chamber and you know, our side's just going to be absolutely, you know, standing up. Standing up. And you know, it's just so sad that the Democrats are gonna be sitting the whole time. I'm like, you know what, Somebody needs to get on their side and show them how to stand up. And my team was like, oh my gosh, don't do that. Please don't do that. And I was like, no, I think it's the right thing to do, guys, I'm gonna do it. And I had members telling me not to do it. I had my team telling me not to do it. And in the end, I think the American people saw it for what it was. It was an expression of pure pride and joy for our amazing and exceptional nation. And when it comes to America, we shouldn't have sides. You're either with America or you're not. And we should be willing to rise to our feet rather than sit on our hands because the people are counting on us. So it was just such a great speech and such a great energy.
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Tudor Dixon
You gave me chills when you said that. I mean, because it's so true. And especially on a night like this where we see so many people. I love what the president is able to do when he brought the hockey team in, when he brings the helicopter pilot in. And you are honoring these people. And those are actually the people of the United States of America. They are the little kid that had a dream, that made it the. The man who fought for our country. The little girl who was in the accident and is fighting to get back to who she was after two years, still fighting to walk. I mean, these are the real, real stories. They're not famous people. We've never seen them before. They are people that are just coming into the light. And the Democrats couldn't. They couldn't show any joy for that. That was shocking to me.
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Kat Cammack
Yeah, it's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have people in these positions, elected positions, that are cheering for our country to fail. More so than cheering for the man in the White House to succeed. That, to me, says far more about the radical left than it does anything about the president or Republicans or everyday Americans. I think they need to do some serious soul search because this is what Americans are sick and tired of. They're sick and tired of the America Last policies. They wanna get to the place where we can all stand up in the chamber and cheer for the hockey team that just brought home gold. We should be able to stand up and cheer for an amazing soldier who fought In World War II, Vietnam and Korea, and is being awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor by the First Lady. We should be willing to come together and do that. But the fact that you still have people sitting on their hands, it's just. It's so very sad. And I think the American for what it is, and they'll remember when they go to the ballot, the ballot box in November.
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Tudor Dixon
When we were little kids, we were told actions speak louder than words. And your actions spoke louder than words. And I was so impressed with the. Because it is bold. And what people don't understand outside of politics is when your staff tells you something, when the other members are telling you something, it is really remarkable to stand against them and say there's a moment in time here that we can show that we are together as a country. And there is an aisle, there is not an aisle. And that was so powerful to me. But I want to ask you about what you just said, because you're, you're talking about, you know, they are so Trump deranged. And we've talked about Trump derangement syndrome for such a long time. And, and they will say, we can't stand for him. But now we're coming to, to a point where in 2028, someone new will run for office. And I saw Gavin Newsom interviewed by Jen Psaki. And he did something that I went, oh, wow. That's how they continue this. Because even on the Republican side, I know that there are people that have gone, well, when we have somebody running in 2028, they won't be able to be mad because it won't be Trump. He said, she said to him, well, what do you think of 2028? They're talking about it being JD Vance or maybe Marco Rubio. And he said, that scares me even more. And I think you need to understand they're worse than Trump. And I was like, here it is. It's never going to. For the people who think at some point they're going to say, oh, we're Repub. Republicans are welcome in the town square again. They will never do it. This is not a Trump thing. This is a Republican conservative values thing. They're gonna keep going after us, and we have to fight to go on that other side of the aisle.
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Kat Cammack
Absolutely. I mean, I think that, that us versus them mentality is what is really eroding the foundation that so many people have spilled blood in our nation's uniform to protect. I mean, we have to come together as Americans. I mean, anything short of that is just gonna be rearranging the DEC on the, on the Titanic, as far as I'm concerned. Because our adversaries abroad, they are absolutely fostering this type of divide. They love seeing the chaos. They love seeing the two sides going at it. And I will tell you that looking ahead to the next State of the Union, I'm going to be inviting Democrats to sit on the Republican side. I'm going to drag some of my Republican colleagues to the Democrat side, because that's what the American people need to see is one team, one mission. Look at what Russia is doing, look at what China is doing, look at what Venezuela up until that. Incredible. And I just have to say, we have the most amazing military in the world. Having sat through the classified briefing and hearing in extreme detail what they went through, oh, my gosh, I could cry thinking about how exceptional our military, how brave our military is. But that's the thing that the American people are hungry for. They're looking for solutions. They're not looking for the finger pointing. And you think about what President Trump has done. We secured the largest tax cut in American history. They didn't vote for it. They couldn't cheer for it. They will gladly accept it when they go to file their taxes, but they just cannot stand the fact that he is doing all the things that The American people want. And so I think that this is our moment to really rise above it all and say, listen, we want everyone who loves America on the team. Let's do what's best for this country. Let's do what's best for American families. And if you're not going to do that, people will see it for what it was. And that's really what my choice of seat in the chamber was all about. A clear, stark visual of. You have Chuck Schumer sitting next to me, sitting and scowling at me, Mark Kelly behind me, scowling at me. And I was like, you know what? I love this country more than anything. I'm gonna stand up and I'm gonna applaud every damn minute that I get.
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Tudor Dixon
That's what it. I mean, that's what our side shows. There is a love of country. And they've tried to shame us into not having a country. And I just saw a chart that said that Democrats overall, that their love of country has gone way down. It's as if they're teaching, which I believe they are teaching people, you should be ashamed of your country. Whereas I looked at what they did and I was ashamed of that. But I want to say, you brought up the Venezuela mission and you've seen obviously way more than we have. And I don't know if I've been living in a cave, but I didn't know the story of the helicopter pilot. And I think that's one of the unique pleasures in seeing these types of speeches that the President gives because he is a storyteller. And the way he told that, it was funny because my daughter, my 12 year old, the next morning in the car, she goes, but, mom, why would the helicopter pilot get that award and not everybody that went into Venezuela that night get the award? And I was like, oh, well, let's talk about what the President told us. Because I hadn't heard that story. I was like, you have to understand. She goes, and he got shot. And I said, and he flew. He still landed the helicopter. He still got the entire group safely to where they needed to go. And she was like, oh, my gosh, that's amazing. That guy's really amazing. And I thought, how cool that you can have a night where your kids can watch and the Democrats can complain that he said they were crazy. But he said it because they wouldn't stand for those moments. It wasn't that he was saying the party was crazy. He was saying the people right there who wouldn't stand for those moments were acting Very insane and immature. But your kids could watch it and walk away and go, that's America.
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Kat Cammack
Oh, and, and, and I love that she asked you about that because that's the curiosity that we want to inspire in our kids. You know, I, I, I just, I think about that helicopter pilot and, and people may not know he was originally supposed to be in a wheelchair and he was going to be wheeled into the chamber. And you have to imagine that this guy who literally was shot multiple times in the leg was bleeding out. He has such pride that he said, hell no, I'm not gonna be wheeled into that chamber. I'm gonna walk into that chamber. And he had a walker. And you could see the pain, but you could also see the pride on his face. That resolve, that grit, that scrappiness, like America exceptionalism embodied in that guy and his wife. And her face, she was just beaming. You could see the pride. That was what, and it was so sad to me, especially when I'm talking about the mother of the young lady who was tragically, brutally murdered in Charlotte. Most of my colleagues on the Democrat side wear a lapel pin that has a Ukrainian flag on it. They're willing to stand for Ukraine so long as it's over there. But the minute that a Ukrainian refugee gets to the United States and is brutally murdered by somebody who is a repeat offender, who never should have been out on the streets. But as a result of the no cash bail and then the soft on crime policies that they promote, they're silent. I mean, the double standard is incredible. And the hypocrisy, it's on full display. They think that they're being smart about how they're handling this, but I think that's what Americans are sick and tired of. They're sick and tired of being treated like they're idiots. We know what's going on. We see their double standard. We see when they're doing all of this for political show and we're just tired of it. We don't want our kids to grow up where it's right. Republican versus Democrat. And you can't have a healthy debate and still be friends at the end. You know, that's what we need to get back to. And I just, I'm so encouraged about where we're headed as a country, as a nation. I know that we certainly have our fair share of problems, but man, are we the best people equipped to handle them.
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Tudor Dixon
But you make a great point. Here they are fighting for people in another country and they're not on the ground. And it's not affecting them and it's just a projection of this. We care, we're loving. Vote for us. But let me tell you what the reality of that Ukrainian story is, because Roy Cooper is running for Senate in North Carolina and he is the one. His policies as governor let that guy out. Now, you have Roy Cooper running against our own former RNC chair Whatley. And you have. So they, they think that, but you've got some, you've got a real problem with having Watley down there running. So you are going to sit for a woman who lost her daughter because they know that could politically come back on them because it was their guy that let that guy out and got her killed. And he's running to be a senator. They want that Senate seat.
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Kat Cammack
I mean, it just, doesn't that just break your heart, though, that people like that are willing to spill blood and willing to turn the cheek, their cheek, to someone who lost their life and a grieving mother? I mean, you could feel that woman's pain in the chamber. She was sobbing and every single one around us. Like, I had Amy Klobuchar next to me and Chuck Schumer on the other side of her and Tammy Baldwin. And I could feel them tense up. They knew that it was wrong to sit there. They knew it. You could feel it. You could see it in their body language. But they also, you could see the mental calculations going on in their head of, well, if I stand, you know, oh, you know, that is what is so broken about the left. They are willing to forsake American lives. They're willing to actually see people lose their life for their political agenda. That is just absurd. You don't get into public service for that. If that's the case, then you're just chasing titles and you're the most egotistical person on the planet. I think that's what the American people are really seeing in this moment. And the best part about when President Trump asked if you stand for Americans, please stand up in the chamber or if you are going to prioritize illegals, stay seated. The world saw that moment. They saw that moment.
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Tudor Dixon
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Tudor Dixon
I mean that night was all about standing for America. If you can't stand for the US Hockey team, you are not standing for America. And they're not, I mean you talk about their lack of concern over Irina but they're not the party of life. And they have really proven that in a totally different way this year because we have seen murder after murder. We've seen Donald Trump stop these murders. They couldn't stand for that either. He said murder is down. They couldn't stand for that. They couldn't celebrate that. But we saw the backlash after Roe v. Wade. I will just say this morning as I'm coming into work I see that New Jersey just, just passed, just got it approved to have assisted suicide in the state. And I think, oh my gosh, this is where we're going. Like this is where we're going. And you see what's happened in Canada. You have parents who had 25 year old kids that were suicidal and they couldn't get to them in time. And the state lets them or the, the country lets them commit suicide, legally commit suicide and they help them do it. And I think this is going to be elderly people who can't take care of themselves. This is going to be people who don't want to have to deal with a special needs kid. This just acceptable murder. Now I'm just shocked by this party but I do think they will do anything, anything possible to stay in power. And the latest is that they don't want to see the Save America act passed. And I'm, I just think the SAVE act is so critical right now and there's nothing more clear to me than they are cheating. We know we've had non citizens vote in the state of Michigan. How do they possibly get away? You've got Hillary Clinton, you've got Hillary Skolton in my own district who is saying married women won't be able to vote Go. What, you can't get a real id? I mean how many married women aren't flying on airplanes? This is just a lie.
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Kat Cammack
It is. I, I mean again it's the entire agenda of the radical left has been dependency and control. They want to make people dependent on big government programs so that they, the big government advocates, they stay in control. It's not one particular policy over the other but they always do it with this, this campaign of we're the compassionate Ones, right. They, they pretend to care. There is nothing compassionate about killing babies. There is nothing compassionate about open borders. There is nothing compassionate about soft on crime or no cash bail policies. There is nothing compassionate about their radical policies. Nothing. And then to actually tell people and, and, and I know you've been such an advocate and, and a leader on this in protecting women's sports and protecting women in general to say, we're going, we're going to go ahead and go along with your mental disorder and we're going to, we're going to jeopardize our girls and put boys in their private spaces, in their locker rooms and then we're going to endanger them and put them up against men and force them to compete. It's dangerous. It is not compassionate. It is actually cruel. Their policies are rooted in cruelty and I think people are waking up to that. You mentioned the SAVE Act. We have seen countless people on the left come out and say married women will not be able to vote. We're disenfranchising women. I'm sorry, would you please stop talking to us as though we are morons. I am so sick and tired of the left treating us like one, we are single issue voters and two, that we are idiots. For them to go out and say that women are not smart enough to get a real id, I'm just blown away by that is the messaging that they all sat around in a room and were like, yeah, Bob, let's go after that. That's what we're gonna go with. I mean, my gosh, they just treat people like they're idiots. And again, I think people are waking up to it. But beyond that, they say, oh, this isn't necessary because it never happens. I'm sorry, weren't they the original election deniers that, you know, I Remember back in 2006, 2006, I kept hearing people say, this is, we're not going to certify the election. This is an illegitimate win. You know, all this stuff, right? I, I just, I love how it's come full circle and now they're saying it's not a problem. Never mind that the facts tell a different story. 19 states issue driver's licenses to non citizens. And of those 19 states, 15 actually do automatic voter registration when you're at the DMV. And they're like, well, there's a, there's a check box. I'm like, ooh, don't let that little check box of. You know, I attest that I'm a U.S. citizen that never gets Verified and never gets checked or anything. Right. Never let that stop anybody. My gosh, do they think we are morons? I just.
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Tudor Dixon
I know. I think that you.
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Kat Cammack
If there's nothing to fear, then they should vote for this. Right? That's where I'm at.
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Tudor Dixon
You have to have a real ID to travel. And I've never gone through the airport and been like, there are only men here. There are only men.
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Kat Cammack
How did you get on that plane, Tutor? How did you figure out how to get on that plane?
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Tudor Dixon
Exactly. I don't walk on a plane. And people are like, oh, my gosh.
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Kat Cammack
What.
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Tudor Dixon
How is a woman in here? This is just stunning. Really quick, before I let you go, I do want to mention there's been a little bit of a discussion lately about this congressional slush fund that was used for years to pay off victims of congressmen and women who were victims of any sort, but a lot of times, sexual assault victims. And it was taxpayer money that went. We'd never gotten the details. We've never gotten the names. A few of you have come out and said, you want that to be released. I'm with you, absolutely.
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Kat Cammack
I don't know why this is a thing at all. When you're in public service, you're held to a higher standard. And there should never have been a slush fund that was used to pay off victims to settle these ridiculous cases. Many, I'm sure, are horrific examples of sexual harassment. And we are very, very eager to see what the details of these settlements are because there is such a distrust in Washington. We've talked about a lot of the reasons why. I think this is a good first step in restoring some of that transparency and accountability in Washington. We need to stand with people who have been silenced, and it's just how wildly inappropriate that taxpayer money is being used. That's like the final insult to injury on this entire case. But I think we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. I've been willing to call out the balls and strikes on both sides. If it's our own side, if it's. It's Republicans that are doing it. You know what? You shouldn't be serving. I mean, I've got colleagues on the. On my side that I believe should not be serving because they have really disgraced the office. They've done things that are illegal, inappropriate, and. And they shouldn't be there. Just like I've said the same thing about my colleagues on the left. We have to get back to a place of there is a higher standard. When you're serving the people and people need to live up to it every day. I transparency in sunlight is the best option moving forward and I'm going to be standing with all my colleagues who are fighting to get these, these files unearthed and released because I think it's really important.
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Tudor Dixon
It is very important. And I appreciate your willingness to do that because not many people are willing to speak out against their own colleagues. And that is, that is a huge step. Thank you so much. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for standing up and showing us the joy of being a person who's been serves our country and serves our country with such excitement. We appreciate you so much. Congresswoman Kat Cammack, thank you so much.
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Kat Cammack
I appreciate you tutor. Have a great day.
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Tudor Dixon
Thanks, you too. And thank you all for joining us on the podcast. Have a great day.
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Kat Cammack
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