The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Rep. Kat Cammack on ‘Woman in Red’ SOTU Moment
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: February 27, 2026
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Rep. Kat Cammack (R-FL)
Focus: The viral “Woman in Red” moment at the State of the Union, political unity, double standards, and pressing policy issues.
Episode Overview
In this episode, Tudor Dixon sits down with Rep. Kat Cammack, who famously wore red and sat among Democrats during the most recent State of the Union Address. They discuss the symbolism and response to her gesture, the broader issues of partisanship and unity in America, and tackle policy flashpoints including women's sports, border security, crime, and transparency in Congress. The conversation is candid, passionate, and at times personal, with reflections on the meaning of patriotism and the challenges facing U.S. politics today.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The “Woman in Red” State of the Union Moment
[01:54–04:41]
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The Decision:
- Kat Cammack recounts her spontaneous decision to sit with Democrats during the State of the Union (SOTU):
“It wasn’t really a premeditated... plan. Like, hey, I’m going to sit on the Democrat side. It was more of like an hour before... I started talking to my team and I’m like, you know what? Someone needs to get on their side and show them how to stand up.” — Kat Cammack (03:12)
- Despite pushback from her staff and fellow Republicans, Cammack was determined:
“I think the American people saw it for what it was. It was an expression of pure pride and joy for our amazing and exceptional nation. And when it comes to America, we shouldn’t have sides. You’re either with America or you’re not.” (03:54)
- Kat Cammack recounts her spontaneous decision to sit with Democrats during the State of the Union (SOTU):
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Symbolism:
- Dixon praises the move as brave and a unifying gesture:
“Your actions spoke louder than words. And I was so impressed... there is a moment in time here that we can show that we are together as a country.” — Tudor Dixon (06:34)
- Dixon praises the move as brave and a unifying gesture:
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Public and Political Response:
- Cammack notes both positive public feedback and visible discomfort among Democratic colleagues:
“You have Chuck Schumer sitting next to me, sitting and scowling at me, Mark Kelly behind me, scowling at me. And I was like, you know what? I love this country more than anything. I’m gonna stand up and I’m gonna applaud every damn minute that I get.” — Kat Cammack (09:50)
- Cammack notes both positive public feedback and visible discomfort among Democratic colleagues:
2. Partisan Divides and Media Narratives
[04:41–10:30]
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Unifying Moments Ignored:
- Dixon laments that Democrats don’t celebrate or show joy for American heroes highlighted during SOTU:
“You are honoring these people. And those are actually the people of the United States of America... the Democrats couldn’t show any joy for that. That was shocking to me.” — Tudor Dixon (04:41)
- Dixon laments that Democrats don’t celebrate or show joy for American heroes highlighted during SOTU:
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“Trump Derangement Syndrome” and Future Elections:
- Discussion of ongoing animosity, not just towards Trump, but towards conservative values generally. Dixon references a Jen Psaki interview with Gavin Newsom:
“For the people who think at some point they’re going to say, ‘Oh, Republicans are welcome in the town square again.’ They will never do it... This is a Republican conservative values thing.” — Tudor Dixon (07:43)
- Discussion of ongoing animosity, not just towards Trump, but towards conservative values generally. Dixon references a Jen Psaki interview with Gavin Newsom:
3. The Meaning of Patriotism
[08:15–10:30]
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Call for Unity:
- Cammack reflects on the importance of standing with Americans regardless of party:
“That us versus them mentality is what is really eroding the foundation that so many people have spilled blood in our nation’s uniform to protect. I mean, we have to come together as Americans.” — Kat Cammack (08:15)
- Cammack reflects on the importance of standing with Americans regardless of party:
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Future Plans:
- Promises for next SOTU:
“I’m going to be inviting Democrats to sit on the Republican side. I’m going to drag some of my Republican colleagues to the Democrat side, because that’s what the American people need to see: one team, one mission.” (08:47)
- Promises for next SOTU:
4. Real American Stories and the Double Standard
[10:30–12:17]
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Highlights from SOTU:
- Dixon shares a heartfelt anecdote about how the President’s storytelling affected her and her daughter, using the story of a heroic helicopter pilot:
“She goes, ‘And he got shot.’ And I said, ‘And he flew. He still landed the helicopter. He still got the entire group safely to where they needed to go.’ And she was like, ‘Oh, my gosh, that’s amazing. That guy’s really amazing.’” — Tudor Dixon (11:08)
- Dixon shares a heartfelt anecdote about how the President’s storytelling affected her and her daughter, using the story of a heroic helicopter pilot:
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Hypocrisy in Congressional Response:
- Cammack notes inconsistency from Democrats, particularly with regard to standing up for domestic tragedies:
“Most of my colleagues on the Democrat side wear a lapel pin... a Ukrainian flag... but the minute that a Ukrainian refugee gets to the United States and is brutally murdered by somebody... as a result of the no cash bail and then the soft on crime policies that they promote, they’re silent.” — Kat Cammack (13:03)
- Cammack notes inconsistency from Democrats, particularly with regard to standing up for domestic tragedies:
5. Policy Issues: Crime, Voting, and Women’s Sports
[14:29–19:23]
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Crime and Political Calculations:
- Discussion of Democratic reluctance to stand for victims of violent crime, with specific reference to North Carolina governor Roy Cooper’s policies:
“They are willing to forsake American lives. They’re willing to actually see people lose their life for their political agenda. That is just absurd.” — Kat Cammack (15:30)
- Powerful moment recalled when President Trump challenged members to stand up for Americans or stay seated for “illegals”:
“The world saw that moment.” — Kat Cammack (16:33)
- Discussion of Democratic reluctance to stand for victims of violent crime, with specific reference to North Carolina governor Roy Cooper’s policies:
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Assisted Suicide & Value of Life:
- Dixon expresses concern over New Jersey passing an assisted suicide law, referencing similar policies in Canada.
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Voting Integrity & the SAVE Act:
- Dixon and Cammack criticize opposition to voter ID laws and the SAVE Act, calling out what they view as patronizing rhetoric:
“Would you please stop talking to us as though we are morons. I am so sick and tired of the left treating us like... we are single issue voters and two, that we are idiots.” — Kat Cammack (19:23)
- On ID requirements:
“You have to have a real ID to travel. And I’ve never gone through the airport and been like, there are only men here.” — Tudor Dixon (22:23)
- Dixon and Cammack criticize opposition to voter ID laws and the SAVE Act, calling out what they view as patronizing rhetoric:
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Women’s Sports:
- Strong pushback against permitting trans women to compete in women’s sports:
“There is nothing compassionate about their radical policies... Then to actually tell people... we’re going to put boys in their private spaces, in their locker rooms and then we’re gonna endanger them and put them up against men and force them to compete... It is actually cruel.” — Kat Cammack (19:52)
- Strong pushback against permitting trans women to compete in women’s sports:
6. Congressional Transparency and Accountability
[22:38–24:43]
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Taxpayer-Funded Congressional Slush Fund:
- Discussion of past congressional settlements using taxpayer money to pay alleged victims of harassment or assault:
“There should never have been a slush fund that was used to pay off victims to settle these ridiculous cases... We need to stand with people who have been silenced, and it’s just how wildly inappropriate that taxpayer money is being used.” — Kat Cammack (23:10)
- Discussion of past congressional settlements using taxpayer money to pay alleged victims of harassment or assault:
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Calls for Higher Standards:
- Cammack claims willingness to hold both parties to account:
“If it’s our own side... You know what? You shouldn’t be serving. I mean, I’ve got colleagues on my side that I believe should not be serving because they have really disgraced the office.” (24:07)
- Cammack claims willingness to hold both parties to account:
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Standing for America:
“When it comes to America, we shouldn’t have sides. You’re either with America or you’re not. And we should be willing to rise to our feet rather than sit on our hands because the people are counting on us.” — Kat Cammack (03:54)
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On Narrative Manipulation:
“For the people who think at some point they’re going to say, ‘Oh, Republicans are welcome in the town square again.’ They will never do it. This is not a Trump thing. This is a Republican conservative values thing.” — Tudor Dixon (07:45)
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On Children Learning Patriotism:
“That’s the curiosity that we want to inspire in our kids... America exceptionalism embodied in that guy and his wife.” — Kat Cammack (12:19)
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On Being Patronized over Voter ID:
“Would you please stop talking to us as though we are morons. I am so sick and tired of the left treating us like... we are single issue voters and two, that we are idiots.” — Kat Cammack (19:23)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:54–04:41: Kat Cammack recounts her decision to sit with Democrats at SOTU.
- 04:41–06:34: Power of symbolic actions and partisan divides.
- 06:34–08:15: Discussion of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” and ongoing partisanship.
- 08:15–10:30: Reflections on unity, military heroes, and plans for future SOTUs.
- 10:30–12:17: Honoring everyday American heroes; double standards in Congress.
- 14:29–16:52: Crime, Roy Cooper, and the political calculus around standing for victims.
- 17:34–19:23: Assisted suicide, value of life, and the SAVE Act.
- 19:23–22:17: Women’s sports, voting integrity, and left vs. right narratives.
- 22:38–24:43: Calls for congressional transparency over the “slush fund.”
- 24:43–end: Closing thanks and final thoughts.
Tone & Atmosphere
The conversation is earnest, patriotic, and confrontational toward progressive policies and Democratic colleagues, with both speakers using humor, anecdotes, and sharp criticisms. There’s an emphasis on pride in country, frustration with division, and calls for higher standards in public service.
A must-listen for those interested in the interplay of symbolism and substance in American politics, and a window into current conservative thinking on patriotism, policy, and unity.
