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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Surviving the Unthinkable: Kim Cantin on Love, Loss, and the Strength to Begin Again
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Christina Quinn
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Jamie Rubin
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Christiane Amanpour
Let's go baby.
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Jamie Rubin
On July 26th and 27th, teams across the league take the field for Back Together weekend presented by YouTube TV. With two full days of practices, player interviews and behind the scenes access, it's a can't miss NFL reunion. Back Together Weekend presented by YouTube TV. July 26th and 27th. Go to NFL.comBackTogetherWeekend for more information.
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Christina Quinn
If you eat too many ultra processed foods, you could be starving your gut microbes and they'll get hangry. That's one of many things I learned after working on a new audio course about the gut microbiome. You can learn how to keep your gut happy by listening to Try this from the Washington Post. I'm Christina Quinn. I host Try this. Dig in with me on practical advice for life's common challenges. Follow Try this right now, wherever you're listening. Seriously, try it.
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Rodney Williams
I'm Rodney Williams.
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Travis Holloway
And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak Podcast, a real conversation about finance.
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Rodney Williams
Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone.
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Tudor Dixon
I feel like sometimes being broke is a cycle and that we might have.
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Travis Holloway
To revisit that and we're not stopping at success stories.
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Lisa Booth
What happens when it doesn't go right?
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Christina Quinn
How do you cope with it?
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Rodney Williams
Because wealth isn't just about money. It's about creating a life where you thrive and help others do the same.
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Travis Holloway
Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
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Christiane Amanpour
Oh, hey. Hey. Thanks for meeting me here. It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. You see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there? That's all I paid for.
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Jamie Rubin
Ah, let me get back to you on that deal. So right it almost feels wrong. At the Hyundai Getaway sales event, get 0% APR for 60 months plus 0 payments for 90 days on all Hyundai Santa Fe Mall. And check out our other great deals at your Hyundai dealer today. Offer ends September 2nd. Call 562-314-4603 for details.
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Kim Canton
I'm Christiane Amanpour and I've been on the front lines and interviewing world leaders for more than 30 years.
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Jamie Rubin
And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor to both Presidents Clinton and Biden.
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Kim Canton
We were married for 20 years and divorced for seven. Now we've joined forces on the X Files to make sense of how we ended up with no world order. Listen to Christiane Amanp Presents the X files on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. Today we're gonna, we're gonna go through a survivor story. We've all been watching as the families have been mourning the losses of the Texas flooding the campground that I think everybody as a parent has watched these parents learn that their children didn't survive the flooding. And, and I think that many of us, if is involved, we're trying to figure out how to support them. And if we don't, I think that so many, I mean, I know from my perspective, I've watched this as a parent and I've thought, I can't, I can't imagine what it's like afterward, what the question, the questions that you have, what their last moments were like. And, and just what you, how do you sleep? How do you survive? How do you move on? And we are so blessed to be graced today with Kim Canton. She actually survived a very similar situation. A deadly 2018 mudslide in Montecito. It was a natural disaster. This was 23 people that lost their lives. And, and Kim, your husband and your son were among those people. And thank you so much for coming today to share your story.
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Christiane Amanpour
Thank you for having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Absolutely. Yeah, go ahead.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah. I'll tell you a little bit of what happened. It was eerily similar, I think, because it was in the dark, in the middle of the night, right. That part of the mountain came down and there had been a forest, one of the largest wildfires in California history the month prior. And it took all the foliage out of the mountains. And Santa Barbara is kind of where the mountain meets the sea. There's mountain range, there's about four miles, and then there's Pacific Ocean. And so there was car sized boulders sitting precariously on the hillside. And I looked at those houses thinking, oh, I feel so bad for those people. Our house was down in the village. So we weren't, you know, very concerned. I was concerned about the, the houses up on the hillside with the boulders. And what happened, sadly enough, was about 30 days later, there was torrential rain and about half an inch fell in 15 minutes. And on top of that, there were seven water mains in the mountain that all gave way. So it was like Niagara Falls on top of torrential rain. And when you have a forest fire, you know what it leaves is, it's kind of like a plastic soot, I would say. And so it just slid down. And so in the dark, at about 3, 3 in the morning, the mountain came down. And a neighbor across the lane from us and near the creek. He looked over at our house and car sized boulders jammed up into the underpass. And you'd hear the zing, zing, zing. We didn't know what was happening in the house. We were all up trying to get dressed to get out. We knew the heavy rain and the neighbor said he saw a 30 foot wave plume up around the curve of the creek. But it couldn't go anywhere because it jammed up boulders and it crashed down on our house with my family in it. And my husband was on, you know, he had seen it, he'd opened the front door and he says back door now. And he ran to the backyard and there was a glass door there. And he was on the other side of the door saying, kim, get out, get out, get out. But my hand got stuck in the door and by the time the wear and beware alarm went off on my phone I was chest deep in mud. And I had watched my Irish setter dog get rolled over with mud. And you know, as it filled up in the house, my son and my daughter were in different parts of the house. My daughter had run to get her rain boots when my husband said, get dressed, let's get out. My son probably went to his room to get his computer. And my 14 year old daughter was washed away by a football field and buried alive under 20ft of mud for, for six hours with just a tiny pocket of air the size of a volleyball with a teeny tiny hole. She'd push on her entombment and, and it didn't budge. And she screamed and screamed and screamed. I was washed away, two football fields found in a debris pile in an intersection, wrapped in electrical wires, severely injured. And when I got rescued I was in the hospital at about 8:30 in the morning. So I was on that debris pile for quite a long time. And at about 10:30 I heard the door open and they said, do you have a daughter named Lauren? I said yes, I do. And they said they just rescued her. And her rescue was shown around the world because it was like Phoenix Rising that she was able to survive what she endured. And there's part of a roof over her.
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Tudor Dixon
How did they know where she was? They heard her screaming.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, it was actually, I think angels were with us that day because when they came to find me on the, in the intersection debris pile, they said where was your home? Which was scary for me to hear the was. And I thought, I thought I must be in my backyard somewhere, right? And I just took my one hand that worked and I pointed back And I said, right back there. And two of the firefighters walked to where I pointed because there was debris piles everywhere, cars and trees, everything. And. And. And there was a gas leak. And so they couldn't hear things. Well, but Ben, the firefighter in Montecito, he said, I think I hear screaming. And they thought it was a house nearby that was still kind of standing a bit. And he sent Andy over, and Andy, you know, with the gas leak, was listening, listening, and he heard it. So it was just absolutely a miracle that I went where I went.
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Tudor Dixon
So that was how they found your daughter?
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Christiane Amanpour
Yes.
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Christina Quinn
Wow.
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Christiane Amanpour
And then we searched for my son. He was one of the missing. And that's why Texas is so, so hard for me to watch, because I just feel so immensely for everyone. There was 23 people died that night. My husband and son, my 17 year old son. But there was two that were missing they couldn't find. And one my son. And one was a beautiful baby girl who was 2. Lydia.
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Tudor Dixon
So that night, how did you know that? I mean, I think so many of us have gone to sleep in the rain. And certainly you never considered. I mean, you said you thought the houses up on the ridge may be in trouble, but you never considered that your house would be washed away. How did you know to get up even and be prepared?
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Christiane Amanpour
There was heavy rain, and I was more of a nervous Nelly and so overprotective. I even had a hotel room reserved in town. So if it got really bad and we felt unsafe because we evacuated every time during the Thomas fire, when they said to evacuate. So I just said, hey, if we get uncomfortable, let's get out. So we had our go bags, we had the cars staged across in a neighbor's driveway so that we could put sandbags up near us. We had the drains checked, you know, and when we got up, we're just like, this is too heavy of rain. Like, my husband looked in the garage, he says it's coming up with water. Like, we'd never seen anything like it. It was torrent. It was torrential rain coming down. And it came on the heels of a wildfire that took all everything of security off that mountain.
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Tudor Dixon
You said your hand got caught. Those moments, I think that a lot of people wonder what those moments are like before disaster strikes. And then as you are separated and what is going through your mind. Were you knocked out? What happened after that?
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Christiane Amanpour
It was sheer terror. All of a sudden there was. It went from pitch black when I looked out the window when we were getting ready to get out to an Eerie yellow. All of a sudden, what I didn't know, there was a big gas explosion in town and it made the whole sky light up, like, I would say, like a nuclear bomb. And I just said, I go, dave, something really wrong is going on. Something really wrong is going on. And so, yeah, we just. It was terror. So my husband opened the front door, slammed it right away because he was checking on how the house was doing with rain. He, I think, saw that 30 foot wave coming toward us because he blasted past.
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Tudor Dixon
That's when he said, back door, back.
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Christiane Amanpour
Door, back door now. And he's, get out, get out, get out. And I couldn't because my hand got stuck in the door and the, the mud was pushing against it, so I couldn't open it because, I mean, all of a sudden the mud's, you know, at my chest. And then I went under. You know, I did a lot of, you know, I did some praying, I can tell you that, in what I yelled. And then I went under and I felt everything. And they interviewed a Texas survivor who said it felt like she was in a wash machine. And I know exactly what she felt like. But I called it a trash compactor because as the house was falling apart, I was hit by granite bricks, broken glass, everything. And I was so much pain. I said, oh, my God, if you want me to die, just show me the white light, like, get me out of this pain. And at that point, I must have been knocked out. And then all I remember is kind of coming to on a debris pile. I was being rained on. It was cold, it was January. I was in bare feet. You know, I had put on my turtleneck and leggings from the day before, and they were. My one hand could tell they were all shredded. And I was pulling up big, big pieces of wood. And when I got to the hospital, it was like someone took a wire brush to the front of my body and rubbed vigorously. I was pretty beaten up.
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Tudor Dixon
It's interesting to me that you said. I called to the Lord and said, if this is my time, I can't take the pain. Take me now. He didn't take you, but he. It knocked you out. It was like, this is all I can bear. And there was grace to get you to the point where you could get to the hospital. I think that's a powerful statement.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, it was. I mean, I remember yelling. I said, jesus, save me. Jesus, save me. Jesus, save me. That's what came. And then when I was on the debris pile alone, freezing, I just. What's interesting is I learned something is I just said the lord's prayer about 20 or 30 times and it was calming for me. That's what I did. I just said the Lord's Prayer. And what they say in different religions, each one of their prayers has a melodic stance to it that's actually very calming. So the Lord, the Our Father, the Lord's Prayer in Christianity is that melodic tempo that has something to do with your nerve to calm your nervous system. In other religions, they have ones too that have that same, you know, a cadence that is calming. And it was, that's what I, that's what, when, when everything was unfolding. That's where, clearly where I went.
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Tudor Dixon
Has your daughter talked about what happened to her?
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Christiane Amanpour
Yes, she actually, I wrote a book and we did an audible and she asked to read her part of being buried alive and how she survived it. And it's pretty, pretty, pretty like she's the strongest human I know of. How she kept herself sane for six hours, fully conscious. I got knocked out. I was, I was actually fortunate. I got knocked out. The whole time she was fully conscious, buried alive in a contorted position under 20ft of mud. And if she tried to push on anything, nothing would move. So she thought that was her tomb. And so to hear her talk about what she did to survive was. She's the strongest human I know.
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Tudor Dixon
Wow. And what kind of, what was the recovery like? You were in the hospital. You have, I assume, more injuries, injuries than just the skin burn on your, on your chest. It's got to be pretty severe. And at the same time, half of your family is still missing.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, yeah. So I got into the hospital. I had two surgeries. The first night I thought I had a broken hip. I had big laceration, A big, big part of my flesh was taken out and I kind of had packed it back in, but I packed it with all the debris. So they had to operate on that. My leg was cut down to the, to the bone at the knee through the quad musc. So a couple surgeries. I was eggplant purple, just eggplant purple. And that wire brush was like all over my body. So I, I had to learn to walk again. Oh, you know, wheelchair walker. I walked like a 95 year old for a long time and have really, really, really worked for seven years to get my, you know, my, my normal gait back, you know, and I have, you know, I've, I can, you know, someone saw me today, they, they wouldn't know.
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Tudor Dixon
Wow. Wow. And then, and did your daughter, what were her injuries.
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Christiane Amanpour
She, she had, I think cracked ribs and bruised or fractured pelvis. But in her rescue, you know, in the video, it's stunning because the firefighters get her out and they said, can we, can we carry you to the ambulance? And she says, no, I'll walk.
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Tudor Dixon
Wow.
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Christiane Amanpour
She says, no, I'll walk. And she was injured. And she's like, I'm walking. And it was. They. They couldn't believe it. They're like, this is incredulous that she survived it. And then she's saying that and she was what, 14? You said she was 14 years old. She's 22. 22 now, yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
That is amazing.
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Kim Canton
My.
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Tudor Dixon
My daughter will turn 14 next month. My middle daughter. And I just think about that, and I think that's where we are today. So many of us across the country have heard these stories of the flooding and the kids being washed away, and that's where you dealt with both things. Not only were you in it, but you also lost a son, lost a husband. So walk us through. How do you help people today? Sadly, your tragedy is not the last tragedy. And what we know is that Camp mystic will also not be the last, because these things happen. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast.
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Christina Quinn
If you eat too many ultra processed foods, you could be starving your gut microbes and they'll get hangry. That's one of many things I learned after working on a new audio course about the gut microbiome. You can learn how to keep your gut happy by listening to Try this from the Washington Post. I'm Christina Quinn. I host Try this Dig in with Me on practical advice for life's common challenges. Follow. Try this right now, wherever you're listening. Seriously, try it.
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Rodney Williams
I'm Rodney Williams.
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Travis Holloway
And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break.
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Rodney Williams
Let's be honest. Building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle, and relying on your community to create something bigger.
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Travis Holloway
And that's exactly why we created the Wealth Break. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles, and real wins.
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Rodney Williams
We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories.
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Travis Holloway
And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same.
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Rodney Williams
So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place.
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Travis Holloway
Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
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Kim Canton
I'm Christiana Manpour, and I've been on the front lines and interviewing world leaders for more than 30 years.
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Christiane Amanpour
And I'm Jamie Rubin, a former advisor.
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Jamie Rubin
To both Presidents Clinton and Biden.
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Kim Canton
We were married for 20 years and divorced for seven. Now we've joined forces on the X Files to make sense of how we ended up with no world order. Listen to Christiane Amanpour presents the X files on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Christiane Amanpour
Oh, hey. Hey. Thanks for meeting me here on such short notice. This place isn't bugged, is it? Bugged? Wait, Jamie, what's going on? It's just you're my only lawyer friend and I need your professional opinion. Do you see that brand new Hyundai Tucson out there?
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah.
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Christiane Amanpour
That's all I paid for it. Ah, I think I need to get back to you on that.
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Tudor Dixon
Do you know what you want?
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, I do now.
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Jamie Rubin
Deal. So right, it almost feels wrong. Get the car or SUV you've always wanted, plus America's best warranty at the Hyundai Getaway sales event. The guilt is real, but so is the savings.
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Tudor Dixon
Listen, I don't want to get in your business, but if that's all she.
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Christiane Amanpour
Paid for it, I'll have what she's having.
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Jamie Rubin
It's a great day for a new Hyundai at the Hyundai getaway sales event going on now. Get 0% APR for 60 months plus 0 payments for 90 days on all Hyundai Santa Fe models. And check out our other great deals at your Hyundai dealer today. Offer end September 2nd. Call 562-314-4603 for details.
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Tudor Dixon
I love listening to you because you sit here and you talk about how strong your daughter is. And I'm like, I hear these stories. You're like, and I packed my arm and I kept going and I, you know, and I'm calling to the Lord and. And I get through the hospital now. I've gotten my gate back. And I'm like, and all of this suffering the most immense loss a human can suffer. So tell us how you talk people through this and how did you. How do you stay. You're so positive and you're, you just have such a great outlook, which I think that when you say that about your daughter, I'm like, well, look who her mother is.
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Christiane Amanpour
Thank you. You know what I'd say, you know, my heart bleeds for everyone in Texas is I found for me is that the community helped me heal. And I'm a type A, didn't ask for help. I was the helper and I was filleted open. And I needed help and I accepted it. And so one is be open and vulnerable to help because you're going to need it all the help. And it's for quite a long time, right? And for the community to use whatever talents you have to help. I have met so many amazing people that just showed up who I did not know. Like when we looked for. When we looked for my missing son and baby Lydia, for three years, we looked for their remains. And I had what's called a sacred search team. It was about seven people. I knew six of them. I did not know six of them before this tragedy. So if I said to you, tutor, hey, it's 2025, right? Will you go out with me every two weeks until 2028 to look for these missing kids? Not many people's hands would go up. Guys came out. It was a search handler and his Professional search dog. It was a general contractor with a big rig. So could she could get down all the. The debris and the debris piles. A woman who lost her house and would go spot to see what's in there, you know, it was just in a scout dad. My husband was a scout leader and his son was in the troop and he didn't want me to find Jack by myself. He wanted to honor my husband so much. And so they used their talents to help there. I went to. I went to a local CVS early on and everyone recognized who I was. It was all over the news. And a woman stopped and she says, you're Kim, right? And I said, yeah. She goes, here's my card. My name's Kimmy. My husband died in 911 and I will do anything for you. If you just need me to go get your dry cleaning, I'll go get your dry cleaning. And that was the magic. Everyone has something they can offer. So I would encourage those in Texas not directly impacted find a way to help. Find a way to help. And I think through that, what I've heard is those people who helped me and the other survivors of the Mudslide found that that was a period of great meaning and growth for them by helping and for those who, like me, were impacted and not used to taking help is be open and vulnerable to help. And I was open to everything from widows groups, talk therapy, mdr, trauma therapy, somatic healing. Because what Texas has endured and what I endured was called sudden traumatic death. That's different from anticipatory death. My dad just died at 86. He had dementia. We knew it was coming. He lived 86 great years. Right? He did it right. I have. With sudden traumatic. You have grief and you have trauma. Oh, work on both. And I've worked diligently for seven years. And I told my daughter, I said, honey, we've never been through anything like this. We don't know what we don't know. We need to invest to get the help we need so that we're gonna be okay again. It really affects your nervous system, you know? I wanna be fit for human consumption again. I have a lot of living to do. I'm relatively young, you know. I wanna embrace life and know that they won't believe me when I say this tutorial. And they probably don't want to hear it now. But what I've found after seven years reflecting, I do want my husband and son back every day. My dog and my house. I'd love that. But there have been silver linings I've seen the best of humanity. I have seen the best of humanity.
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Tudor Dixon
That is an amazing testimony that, I mean incredible because I think that it's the biggest fear of every parent is like you said, the traumatic sudden death and that is, and loss. You found him, it was three hours or three years later that you found his body.
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Christiane Amanpour
The university team, they had an anthropology team, bio forensic anthropologist and archaeologist. The students were out with the professor and they didn't find all of them by any stretch of the imagination, but they found some. And it was enough for me to be able to bury him with some dignity. And I just didn't want him in a pile with a, you know, bent up chain link fence and some, some stuff from someone's garage. I didn't, I didn't feel he or.
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Tudor Dixon
Baby was that close to your house.
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Christiane Amanpour
It was relatively. Yeah, I don't want to say exactly because I don't want little shrines to it, but yeah, yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
And, and your husband was found right away.
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Christiane Amanpour
He was found. They told me, I think on day two, they did a trial run. The first day after my surgery, they came in and said, who do you want to be here when we find stuff out? And you know, the priest came, the nun came, all that stuff. And they told me that Chester, my 90 pound Irish setter, was found six foot up a tree, crushed and didn't survive. And so that was kind of the test run. And then the next morning someone from the sheriff's office came in and said, we found Dave. And I said, alive? And they said no. And I said, are you sure? I go, we're sure. They had done all the testing and everything to make sure it was him. And he was found on the shoreline at the beach. And so he was found. At the time I was going to the hospital, I think he was being found, people saw him and luckily he was, you know, the top of the debris pile. So they saw him.
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Tudor Dixon
It is a miracle to think that coming out of that house and having such a sudden mudslide, I mean, you think about the earth just going right through your house, that you have two survivors of that story.
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Christiane Amanpour
It was a miracle.
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Tudor Dixon
A miraculous. Yes.
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Christiane Amanpour
I mean, it was absolutely miracle.
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Tudor Dixon
You look like you didn't have any like major scars on you, that people will know you when they see you is what I'm saying. And, and here you had what you said was like having your body just rubbed with sandpaper, but you look like you've come out of it. And I'm sure your daughter knew who you Were right away.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah, they actually, we were in different hospitals, but we facetimed and a woman who was in helping me put a scarf around me at my head and tried to like put on some makeupy stuff just so it didn't scare her because I was, I was, you know, I look like, you know, I was black eyes, you know, I was purple all over.
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Tudor Dixon
But, but no, I mean that you, you have a cut on your arm but in your leg. But it's amazing that your face, I mean I, I, I know that sounds silly to say.
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Christiane Amanpour
I could have lost all my teeth, I could have lost my eyes. Because think about it. There were 62 homes that were destroyed that night and all their windows were being broken and I was swimming with shards of glass. Broken windows, yes. Five electrical wires, all the caustic stuff in people's garage. And I know I didn't lose a tooth, I didn't lose an eye.
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Tudor Dixon
And is your daughter in that same situation? That is, I mean you think about that and you really feel like that prayer surrounded you to be protected in a way.
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Christiane Amanpour
Absolutely. I knew. Absolutely, Absolutely. I was, I was, I was helped to live. There was no reason, There was no reason. When you saw the car sized boulders, the hundred year old downed trees and everything I was with, there was no reason that I should have that I, that makes sense that I survived and that I ended up on the top of the repile. I wasn't in the middle of it, so I couldn't breathe. Lauren, she had a pocket of air, guess what? In front of her nose. Not her belly button, not her knee. It was exactly where she needed it. So it was by the grace of God that we survived. And it's just she has one scar and I asked her one more prominent scar. I'm not going to say where it is, but I go, you know, is that concerning? She goes, that's my superhero scar. She's like, that's my, my, my bad woman scar. Like she's proud. I'm like, good for you.
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Tudor Dixon
That's right. That's right. She's a miracle. She might as well have something to show it. So you wrote the memoir. I love the fact that you said you did an audiobook and she gets to tell her own story. And I think that's, I think that's powerful because especially for anybody who is going through this, but also I think for all of us who have just lived what we've learned from the news, you know, we saw the fires in California a few years ago. We saw the Fire in Hawaii. We saw the floods in North Carolina and the floods in Texas. And I think that human nature is to say, I just need to know that survival story. And you've been able to come out from a space of really living this trauma and going through that yourself. And I think you're the miracle story that everybody goes, wow, how is it possible? And two. Two people in one family get to be the miracle story. So it's called where the Yellow Flowers bloom. Is that right?
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Christiane Amanpour
Yes. Yeah. Where yellow flowers Bloom.
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Tudor Dixon
Tell us. Tell us a little bit about that.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah. So it was Covid, and everyone was staying inside, and so I started to think it was a few years out. I'm like, I better start writing some of this down so that I remember it all for my future, if I get grandchildren, that they know the story of what happened. And as I started to write it, I realized I was going from desperate grief to a peaceful acceptance. And I said, you know, I think this might help someone. And so. And then my sacred search team were like, you need to write some of this stuff down. You saw there was some incredible things that happened. And so I did. And I never thought I'd ever be an author. I mean, I never finished a book, like, in elementary school because I was so active and I was doing cartwheels. I wasn't reading any book at the library. And so I wrote a book, and it's won seven awards for inspirational memoir. And I don't say that in any kind of ego way, but why I'm happy is it's. People are telling me those who've lost children or have suddenly find found their life pivot in a. Just a traumatic way. They found healing in it. And it's a fast read. I mean, people read it in like, three days. Like, it's just like, I made short chapters, you know, to make it so it's easy. But, yeah, if it can help people, that puts purpose to what happened to me. Like what Frankel, Viktor Frankl says, right? He has the book the Meaning of Life, and he says, if something really bad happens to you, how do you put meaning to it? So if this put meaning to what happened to Lauren and I and my family and it helps other people, I'm 100% for it. I'm 100 for it.
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Tudor Dixon
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.
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Tudor Dixon
And I think for parents, especially parents of faith, and we know that the Camp mystic kids were at a Christian camp. And that knowledge, just those moments that you described to me of saying, if you're going to take me, take me now. I can't handle all this pain. I can't handle this. And that God listens, you know? And I think there is a peace in knowing that those girls knew how to speak directly to their creator, to God, and call to him when they needed help. And that I think, is because I've thought about this. I have four girls and I think about what would it be like in a situation like this. And there is so much peace in knowing that they know the Lord. But to Hear your story on top of it is just so. It brings so much peace to the anxiety of parenting and of tragedy.
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Christiane Amanpour
Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting. And what I, you know, I used to be a Sunday school teacher, you know, for a while at the, you know, one of the nuns says, hey, would you teach the junior high class? And I'm like, I don't know if I know all this stuff well enough. And she's like, well, I'll give you, you know, the book or all this stuff. And I just really loved that time with the junior high age kids. And I would tell them, you know, what's the thing said most often in the Bible more than any other time? And I said, it's fear not. Fear not, fear not. And. And so, you know, some of those learnings kind of stuck with me. And I think they're going to help those. Those, you know, for the parents of those. Those kids that were washed away, you know, they're. They're in pure joy right now. We have it harder. We're not. We don't get to see them, but they're in pure joy. They're in pure joy. And we know. Yeah. Yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
And that's beautiful. And I think that's. I mean, it's interesting because even when you said, well, my dad passed away, but we were prepared. And it's still that same situation, you know, that there are no tears of pain or suffering, you know, that they are in a place of pure joy and that we have. We will see them again. But. But I think in the meantime, while we're here, where yellow flowers bloom is such a great opportunity to sit and kind of absorb that and realize that there is pain, but there's a way through it on this earth and where we are today. And that in this life we can still find joy after such pain like that. And I'm just so grateful that you wrote it. Where can people get it?
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Christiane Amanpour
On Amazon. And, yeah, it's where yellow flowers bloom on Amazon. And it's also on audible. But it's interesting about the title. Right. Which I think, you know, I want to say to everyone who's suffered so much in Texas is all the debris in Montecito, which was 30 square miles, was full of arsenic and really bad bacteria. And the university team said nothing really should grow in it at all. And where we ended up finding some of my late son was in a pile that was graced by yellow flowers. And that's why I said, where yellow flowers bloom, it's where you can find beauty where otherwise you wouldn't expect it. And I will say to the, you know, I'm so deeply sorry to all the people in Texas and I just hope it gets lighter for them and I really hope they lean into getting as much support as they can get. And I really hope the community does like what Santa Barbara did for me and the others is the community people showed up. It's like Mr. Rogers says, look for the helpers. They show up. There's angels that show up. So be an angel to someone if you weren't directly impacted and if you were impacted, you've received the love and support. It's healing. It's really healing.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, thank you. You are one of those angels and I'm so glad you came on today. Kim Canton, thank you so much for being here.
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Christiane Amanpour
Thank you for having me.
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Tudor Dixon
Absolutely. And thank you all for joining us on this podcast. For this episode and others, you can go to tutordixonpodcast.com or the iHeartrade radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you want to watch it, the whole video is on rumbleutterdixon. Make sure you join us next time and have a blessed day.
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Kim Canton
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